I'm over 60 and was liberal/progressive up until 2019. Even voted for the Big O, twice. First year of Trump I was re-posting all those nasty liberal memes. (Just confessing.) The second year of Trump I was getting tired of trying to change things that I had no control over, so I just stopped paying attention to politics. Plus, I started noticing how much better everything seemed to be getting, especially economically. My 401k/IRA, looked really good, employers were happy, etc. By year 3 of Trump I started noticing most of my liberal friends were obsessed, for lack of a better word. ALL they could talk about was how much they hated Trump. It was off the charts, and the more they talked, the darker they became, and increasingly unable to recognize anything positive. Then, in 2019, I started reading about all of the school shot mandates for children, and heard a doctor say that not only were democrats doing most of the pushing to block school access for un-vaxxed kids, but that they were coming for the adults next. THEN, 2020 happened. And I finally understood why conservatives fought government-run health care (it's all about control, not health), as well as so many other issues. Took a while, and that was one big f-ing Red Pill, but now I get it...
Great story Kelli, kudos for escaping the political gravity well - that is far from an easy thing for most people to do. Left vs right has so many minds trapped in a deathgrip, and as you pointed out, these people fill up with hate and tend to lose their tether to reality.
I think it’s helped me to plainly see that the schools and universities are teaching this type of ‘cognitive distortion’… and the media is pushing it also
When people are taught to think a certain way… they don’t have the flexibility to see both sides of issues
There's something about the artistic mind that just seems to leans left, it's a strange phenomena. Kudos devoalan for breaking the mold, and surviving in your artistic endeavors.
That is a fact. I don't get it either. I have numerous musician friends, recently I ran into one and he was almost in dismay when he exclaimed "I am a Republican now". First words out of his mouth, then we got around to the greetings of seeing each other. You had to be there and know the guy, but it was hilarious for me. The vaxx is what did it for him. He was physically attacked by another musician for refusing the vaxx and he is no longer welcome to play gigs. Sad.
My guess is that the artistic are so desperate to be popular, famous, whatever, they go w/the group think to remain safe, or they just have warped DNA.
I have to admit to having fallen for the BS when I was younger, becoming liberal after starting out conservative. While I had moved on a good while ago, the last few years have seen the final unraveling of the remains of the propaganda. It's amazing how it is more a spiritual and psychological process than it is actual or real. These things - the ideas of the propagandists, the " political beliefs" - are just lenses the powers-that-be insert b/w us and reality. On "both sides." Psy-ops the whole way down.
Ditto. I ran for Judge on the Geen Party ticket in 2016. That was about the time all the liberals I knew began to start behaving irrationally. My longtime hippie friends began just loving the establishment and by covid, were total devotees to the deep state while I found myself on the side of Christians and conservatives.
Being a liberal was different back then… boy have times changed and things flip flopped. I think your old school, anti gov, 60s hippies, would be rolling in their graves to see what today’s modern libs belief system is up to now.
I'm 65 and the most pot-smoking, Grateful Dead loving 70 year olds I knew back in Tucson became some of the most boosted and still wear masks.
The Food Coop was the first place to yell at me and kick me out for not wearing one. Something changed, my friend and I think we are all unraveling it together-in forums like this. (Thanks, Jeff!)
I had a really bad case of liberalism when I was younger, mainly because for many years I was very into the sex, drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. In 1980, I actually swore to my family that I would move to Canada if Reagan was elected. Fortunately, I was too high to even go out for groceries when it actually happened. Then, after being hospitalized yet again for chronic alcoholism in 2019, I had what one might call a "Religious Experience" and when I woke up I was a "Christian Conservative" and have only grown in conviction over the last four years. I guarantee that literally nobody could have seen that coming!
I'm a 76 year old pot-smoking grateful dead loving hippie who never wore a mask or took the jabs or believed the bs. Can't understand my radical hippie friends who did. I blame it on TDS.
Yep, same in Santa Fe NM. I lost nearly all my friends to the psyop and finally said farewell to a place I loved for it's once peaceful wide open spaces and tranquility. I returned home to Florida, land of the free but also unrestrained growth. The trade off is Florida still adheres to the Constitution.
In a way, it makes sense. You can't really be "left" or "liberal" without supporting collectivism and therefore big government. For most of their lives, they were able to convince themselves that "the government" was "the man" and "the man" was conservative. Seems to me that was an inversion of reality. Still very odd to see it all happening, all at once in just a few years. Like the poles of the magnet have flipped and agreed-upon reality is no longer what it was.
Nancy, Mark Oshinskie has T-shirts which say, " I survived Coronamania, Unmasked, Unjabbed, Unafraid". I wonder what would happen if you walked into the Coop wearing that shirt? Would you be Rittenhoused?
Are you collecting comments and looks in a diary and will publish a commentary? How long have you had one, and do you want to share a short story? I couldn't get my act together to order.
I told Mark there are 3 types of comments … absolute vitriol and hate and that “ to wear that your a Trumper and and idiot , science denier“ . The second are the folks that are a little jealous and upset with themselves that they took a jab or two and got sick, and “ wish they didn’t “. The third type are like “hell yeah , I’m with you 100%”.
I personally think it’s mostly posturing, not conviction or principles. Just wanting to belong to what they considered the “cool club,” at that time, and now, too.
Never thought I'd see the day the "liberals" were arguing against the 1st Amendment. Not that they didn't always have an authoritarian streak...but to ditch the cognitive dissonance entirely and fully embrace their inner fascist has been a revelation, of sorts.
This sixties hippie is still above ground and not at all surprised because it was quite obvious it was just a virtue signaling hypocritical movement
from the get go. Give us unlimited sex and drugs and no consequences or responsibilities, you square, unenlightened rednecks, or we’ll sic the Weathermen and the Black Panthers on you!
Me too! I can also say with fairly reliable accuracy, that my kids are conservative as well. They are 19, 17, and 15 with for their ages, good heads on their shoulders. I disagree that the statement that started this thread, applies to any generation born after 1980. For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness, so there is no other option then to be personally conservative and in matters of government, libertarian/ Constitutionalist. Homeschooling children well is a good way to indoctrinate them to become good people.
My siblings and I were also always conservative and I daresay my kids are as well. At least I hope so. I talk to them a lot about what I believe and why. Family experience with totalitarian regimes helps personalize cautionary tales about big government. One of mine went to private school but the other has been a combination of private and homeschool.
“For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness”
Huh, you wish! 😏 Nothing is ever so simple in thoroughly insane clown world accelerating by the half day, saturated with criss-crossing psyops of most incredibly exotic species... 😳
The Buddha himself is reincarnated and decides to visit New York City. While he is there is gets hungry and decides to get a hot dog from the a hot dog vendor cart on the street. The Buddha goes to the hot dog vendor and and tells him
"Make me one with everything" and hands the hot dog vendor a $20 bill. After a short wait the hot dog vendor hands the Buddha his hot dog which he starts eating and waits for his change. When the hot dog vendor fails to give him his change, the Buddha asks,
One of my favorite tomato salads is par-boiled cherry tomatoes so the skin comes off easily and then soak 'em in vodka. Serve w/a toothpick and a side bowl of ground Himalayan salt w/a little pepper spun in to dip them in.
I also love slow baked olive oil drizzled thinly sliced Roma tomatoes w/mixed spices/herbs til they shrivel up to be like sun-dried tomatoes.
Sorry, don't mean to start a recipe thread here, but it is prime excess of what do I do w/all these tomatoes season.
Hahaha, hey look, Jennifer, we all can't be early bloomers like RunningLogic up ^ there. Some of us are a little slow (ME) and need a little extra seasoning and time in the oven before we're ready to emerge and take on the world as fully-fledged members of a sane and shrewd conservative society. There is no shame in that! ;-)
I truly believe we are moving into the peoples party vs the pedo party. Neither side can be trusted and it seems that the moderates or independents have the ability to think of both sides arguments and put forward compromise without the corruption.
"In conclusion, the earliest strong match known to QI appeared in a letter written by Anselme Batbie in 1872. Significantly, Batbie credited the remark to “Burke”, probably Edmund Burke. QI has not yet located this expression in the writings of Burke, and it is possible that Burke’s changing political behavior inspired the saying and not his words."
So it may not have even been Burke. Or it may have been Churchill or someone else.
"What is history, but a fable agreed upon?" -Bovier de Fontenelle
I can sum all of this up with:
If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain -Edmund Burke
I'm over 60 and was liberal/progressive up until 2019. Even voted for the Big O, twice. First year of Trump I was re-posting all those nasty liberal memes. (Just confessing.) The second year of Trump I was getting tired of trying to change things that I had no control over, so I just stopped paying attention to politics. Plus, I started noticing how much better everything seemed to be getting, especially economically. My 401k/IRA, looked really good, employers were happy, etc. By year 3 of Trump I started noticing most of my liberal friends were obsessed, for lack of a better word. ALL they could talk about was how much they hated Trump. It was off the charts, and the more they talked, the darker they became, and increasingly unable to recognize anything positive. Then, in 2019, I started reading about all of the school shot mandates for children, and heard a doctor say that not only were democrats doing most of the pushing to block school access for un-vaxxed kids, but that they were coming for the adults next. THEN, 2020 happened. And I finally understood why conservatives fought government-run health care (it's all about control, not health), as well as so many other issues. Took a while, and that was one big f-ing Red Pill, but now I get it...
Great story Kelli, kudos for escaping the political gravity well - that is far from an easy thing for most people to do. Left vs right has so many minds trapped in a deathgrip, and as you pointed out, these people fill up with hate and tend to lose their tether to reality.
That’s a hopeful story Kelli. Thanks for sharing.
This video is a must see for anyone trying to understand what’s happened in our schools and institutions today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hybqg81n-M&feature=youtu.be
I think it’s helped me to plainly see that the schools and universities are teaching this type of ‘cognitive distortion’… and the media is pushing it also
When people are taught to think a certain way… they don’t have the flexibility to see both sides of issues
https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/empowering-american-mind-beta-version-10-principles-opposing
Get your children out & away from these indoctrination centers before you loose them forever.
At least you took the red pill. The red suppository isn’t going to go as easily!
Most are liberal until they get their first paycheck and realize the government stole 35% of their hard earned money.
"Your dollar ain't schit and it's taxed to no end"
Courtesy of Rich Men North Of Richmond.
Yup that’s very true 😁
Hahahaha, that's an on target observation, thanks for the laugh!
Except for that percentage of liberals who believes the government should tax more because they aren’t making enough.
Love that quote. Makes the point very well.
I have always been a conservative so apparently I have no heart 😆
Been conservative since about sixteen. And a musician. So I've been up against it, and still am, 53 years later
There's something about the artistic mind that just seems to leans left, it's a strange phenomena. Kudos devoalan for breaking the mold, and surviving in your artistic endeavors.
That is a fact. I don't get it either. I have numerous musician friends, recently I ran into one and he was almost in dismay when he exclaimed "I am a Republican now". First words out of his mouth, then we got around to the greetings of seeing each other. You had to be there and know the guy, but it was hilarious for me. The vaxx is what did it for him. He was physically attacked by another musician for refusing the vaxx and he is no longer welcome to play gigs. Sad.
My guess is that the artistic are so desperate to be popular, famous, whatever, they go w/the group think to remain safe, or they just have warped DNA.
Good for you!! 💪
Whip It, Myers.
Whip It Good.
?
I was a very vocal and insufferable liberal when I was a toddler.
🤣😆 Well since a lot of the liberals I know seemed to started and remained in that stage, I guess that makes sense 😆
well played!
Me too-give me those toys when I want them, whenever I want them!! Lol
And I’m afraid they’ll make me a liberal and Democrat once I’m dead!
(Dead people have their vote stolen; Biden became president, didn’t he?)
Oh yeah I guess I should be worried about that too 😳😆
I have to admit to having fallen for the BS when I was younger, becoming liberal after starting out conservative. While I had moved on a good while ago, the last few years have seen the final unraveling of the remains of the propaganda. It's amazing how it is more a spiritual and psychological process than it is actual or real. These things - the ideas of the propagandists, the " political beliefs" - are just lenses the powers-that-be insert b/w us and reality. On "both sides." Psy-ops the whole way down.
Ditto. I ran for Judge on the Geen Party ticket in 2016. That was about the time all the liberals I knew began to start behaving irrationally. My longtime hippie friends began just loving the establishment and by covid, were total devotees to the deep state while I found myself on the side of Christians and conservatives.
Being a liberal was different back then… boy have times changed and things flip flopped. I think your old school, anti gov, 60s hippies, would be rolling in their graves to see what today’s modern libs belief system is up to now.
I'm 65 and the most pot-smoking, Grateful Dead loving 70 year olds I knew back in Tucson became some of the most boosted and still wear masks.
The Food Coop was the first place to yell at me and kick me out for not wearing one. Something changed, my friend and I think we are all unraveling it together-in forums like this. (Thanks, Jeff!)
I had a really bad case of liberalism when I was younger, mainly because for many years I was very into the sex, drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. In 1980, I actually swore to my family that I would move to Canada if Reagan was elected. Fortunately, I was too high to even go out for groceries when it actually happened. Then, after being hospitalized yet again for chronic alcoholism in 2019, I had what one might call a "Religious Experience" and when I woke up I was a "Christian Conservative" and have only grown in conviction over the last four years. I guarantee that literally nobody could have seen that coming!
God took the scales off my eyes around the same time! 2019-ish. It was a whole process.
I'm a 76 year old pot-smoking grateful dead loving hippie who never wore a mask or took the jabs or believed the bs. Can't understand my radical hippie friends who did. I blame it on TDS.
I do too! They spent 4 years driving them nuts with Trump/Russiagate garbage.
Yep, same in Santa Fe NM. I lost nearly all my friends to the psyop and finally said farewell to a place I loved for it's once peaceful wide open spaces and tranquility. I returned home to Florida, land of the free but also unrestrained growth. The trade off is Florida still adheres to the Constitution.
Love NM!! Sadly, Santa Fe has always been much like Tucson. I moved to Texas myself and live here now.
In a way, it makes sense. You can't really be "left" or "liberal" without supporting collectivism and therefore big government. For most of their lives, they were able to convince themselves that "the government" was "the man" and "the man" was conservative. Seems to me that was an inversion of reality. Still very odd to see it all happening, all at once in just a few years. Like the poles of the magnet have flipped and agreed-upon reality is no longer what it was.
Nancy, Mark Oshinskie has T-shirts which say, " I survived Coronamania, Unmasked, Unjabbed, Unafraid". I wonder what would happen if you walked into the Coop wearing that shirt? Would you be Rittenhoused?
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/yet-another-t-shirt-update?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=441698&post_id=135974717&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Michael.. I got one of those shirts !! The looks and the comments 😵💫😫
Are you collecting comments and looks in a diary and will publish a commentary? How long have you had one, and do you want to share a short story? I couldn't get my act together to order.
I told Mark there are 3 types of comments … absolute vitriol and hate and that “ to wear that your a Trumper and and idiot , science denier“ . The second are the folks that are a little jealous and upset with themselves that they took a jab or two and got sick, and “ wish they didn’t “. The third type are like “hell yeah , I’m with you 100%”.
I personally think it’s mostly posturing, not conviction or principles. Just wanting to belong to what they considered the “cool club,” at that time, and now, too.
As Andrew Tate said in that recent interview with Tucker - there are 2 types of people - “thinkers” and “repeaters”
Never thought I'd see the day the "liberals" were arguing against the 1st Amendment. Not that they didn't always have an authoritarian streak...but to ditch the cognitive dissonance entirely and fully embrace their inner fascist has been a revelation, of sorts.
They’re still very much for it for their side. The non-hate speech, side doncha know….
This sixties hippie is still above ground and not at all surprised because it was quite obvious it was just a virtue signaling hypocritical movement
from the get go. Give us unlimited sex and drugs and no consequences or responsibilities, you square, unenlightened rednecks, or we’ll sic the Weathermen and the Black Panthers on you!
They aren't dead...they just all moved to Eugene Oregon so they could have free masks
Damn Libs steal EVERYTHING.
Your heart; tax dollars; elections; Hunter's cocaine.....
Me too! I can also say with fairly reliable accuracy, that my kids are conservative as well. They are 19, 17, and 15 with for their ages, good heads on their shoulders. I disagree that the statement that started this thread, applies to any generation born after 1980. For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness, so there is no other option then to be personally conservative and in matters of government, libertarian/ Constitutionalist. Homeschooling children well is a good way to indoctrinate them to become good people.
My siblings and I were also always conservative and I daresay my kids are as well. At least I hope so. I talk to them a lot about what I believe and why. Family experience with totalitarian regimes helps personalize cautionary tales about big government. One of mine went to private school but the other has been a combination of private and homeschool.
“For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness”
Love this! Agree 🙂
With ya, sister!
Nah RunningLogic, you were just one step ahead of a lot of us. ^_^
Well you’re very kind 🥰
Maybe high IQ
☺️🥰
Huh, you wish! 😏 Nothing is ever so simple in thoroughly insane clown world accelerating by the half day, saturated with criss-crossing psyops of most incredibly exotic species... 😳
Haha, nice, you're right. Fine, here is something so simple (you asked for it daiva):
Strength is being able to crush a tomato.
Dexterity is being able to dodge a tomato.
Constitution is being able to eat a bad tomato.
Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing not to put a tomato in a fruit salad.
Charisma is being able to sell a tomato-based fruit salad.
A tomato based fruit salad is salsa!
So glad it transpired I asked! 🤩
Old promo
I am under the impression that they use a lot of pork fat in those ‘superfoods’, and if that’s true, the book would be useless for me.
I have thought about ordering it, but want to find out if that is true.
So. My question is, do the recipes use a lot of lard.....pork.....??
Yeah, Beth spams a lot of substacks with that "comment."
To be or not to be - shakespeare
To be is to do”—Socrates.
“To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre.
“Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
That is SO corny ... but I love corny jokes ... that's why I'm ROFL!
Just to give you an idea HOW corny ... I still love the Marx Bros!
The Buddha himself is reincarnated and decides to visit New York City. While he is there is gets hungry and decides to get a hot dog from the a hot dog vendor cart on the street. The Buddha goes to the hot dog vendor and and tells him
"Make me one with everything" and hands the hot dog vendor a $20 bill. After a short wait the hot dog vendor hands the Buddha his hot dog which he starts eating and waits for his change. When the hot dog vendor fails to give him his change, the Buddha asks,
"Where is my change."
To which the hot dog vendor replies
"Change comes from within."
;)
The best tomato-based fruit salad is caprese.
Especially right now, while the heirloom tomatoes are in Season in my neck of the woods---
One of my favorite tomato salads is par-boiled cherry tomatoes so the skin comes off easily and then soak 'em in vodka. Serve w/a toothpick and a side bowl of ground Himalayan salt w/a little pepper spun in to dip them in.
I also love slow baked olive oil drizzled thinly sliced Roma tomatoes w/mixed spices/herbs til they shrivel up to be like sun-dried tomatoes.
Sorry, don't mean to start a recipe thread here, but it is prime excess of what do I do w/all these tomatoes season.
Hey watch it! I'm on a diet over here! -Just kidding =)
-Not to worry- tomatoes with fresh basil and fresh mozzarella won't kill your diet--
Crazy, man, crazy!
Clever, TriTorch!
Thanks S.P.H, but I did not write that. I believe that original attribution to be D&D Stats, here: 'D&D Stats' on Reddit
I take great offense. I was more like 38ish when I became conservative. ;-)
Hahaha, hey look, Jennifer, we all can't be early bloomers like RunningLogic up ^ there. Some of us are a little slow (ME) and need a little extra seasoning and time in the oven before we're ready to emerge and take on the world as fully-fledged members of a sane and shrewd conservative society. There is no shame in that! ;-)
But you got there. That's what counts.👍
For me, add to that: if your not a balance of liberal and conservative by 45 you will not thrive
Agree - incorporate the best of both worlds into your thinking and discard the chaff.
I truly believe we are moving into the peoples party vs the pedo party. Neither side can be trusted and it seems that the moderates or independents have the ability to think of both sides arguments and put forward compromise without the corruption.
That’s a quote I heard SOOO many years ago! Truth never gets old.
So
Flippin'
True
My friend, Jeff, attributed this quote to Winnie Churchill--whoever spoke it first--was over the age of 35!!
Thought it was Churchill
Looked into it before posting, Mr. Davis:
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/
"In conclusion, the earliest strong match known to QI appeared in a letter written by Anselme Batbie in 1872. Significantly, Batbie credited the remark to “Burke”, probably Edmund Burke. QI has not yet located this expression in the writings of Burke, and it is possible that Burke’s changing political behavior inspired the saying and not his words."
So it may not have even been Burke. Or it may have been Churchill or someone else.
"What is history, but a fable agreed upon?" -Bovier de Fontenelle