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Today marks the 2 year anniversary of the debacle which is know as, "the withdrawal from Afghanistan". Please take a moment to pray for the families of the 13 warriors who lost their lives because of this incompetent regime. • Marine Corps Lance Cpl. David Espinoza, 20, of Rio Bravo, Tex.

• Marine Corps Sgt. Nicole Gee, 23, of Roseville, Calif.

• Marine Corps Staff Sgt. Darin Taylor Hoover, 31, of Utah

• Army Staff Sgt. Ryan Knauss, 23, of Corryton, Tenn.

• Marine Corps Cpl. Hunter Lopez, 22, of Indio, Calif.

• Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Rylee McCollum, 20, Jackson, Wyo.

• Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Dylan R. Merola, 20, of Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.

• Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Kareem Nikoui, 20, of Norco, Calif.

• Marine Corps Cpl. Daegan William-Tyeler Page, 23, of Omaha

• Marine Corps Sgt. Johanny Rosario, 25, Lawrence, Mass.

• Marine Corps Cpl. Humberto Sanchez, 22, Logansport, Ind.

• Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared Schmitz, 20, of Wentzville, Mo.

• Navy Hospital Corpsman Max Soviak, 22, of Berlin Heights, Ohio

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Remi Steele's avatar

My husband wrote this, published in the local paper a few days ago. In a conversation with a local politician about it, the politician said, "who cares? Nobody cares about that." Needless to say that politician, a conservative in the state legislature, no longer has our support. Here's what my husband wrote:

"Remembering

Two years ago, as I was visiting my son, then a paratrooper with the 82nd Airborne Division, that visit was cut short when around noon his battalion, the designated alert battalion, received notification to load up and fly to Kabul. After completing 12 deployments to Afghanistan myself, one can’t imagine my worry. The Taliban had just taken over the entire country! The situation was chaotic.

His was the first aircraft to land at the Kabul Airport and the scenes confronting him and his paratroopers, many on their first real-world mission were straight out of Dantes Inferno. The next 16 days were filled with indelible imagines of sheer horror - the crush of panicked humanity with mothers tossing their infants up towards troops on the perimeter wall and those children getting entangled in the razor wire; collecting the remains off the taxi- and runway of Afghans who had desperately clung to a departing aircraft only to plunge to their deaths; the dead and wounded after the suicide bombing; the abandoned police dogs; and the piles of equipment left by fleeing Afghan soldiers. These are just a few of the myriad imagines my son conveyed to me upon his return to the States. Those were the hardest and most heart-rending conversations I’ve ever had as a father.

We as a nation should be proud of our men and women in uniform there who despite the horrific circumstances gave their utmost best. I know I am."

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MoM's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I hope you spread the politician’s response to this tragedy to everyone you know. We must get these evil people out of office. God bless your son. I appreciate him so very much.

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Remi Steele's avatar

Thank you, and you can bet I will spread the word. Any politician who is so callous to say that no one cares about the human tragedy and the hardships endured by our men and women in uniform, don't deserve to represent us. Period.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

I pray often for the safety of the troops to include their psychological well-being, what they see, what they hear, etc. I know it is hard.

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Angela's avatar

Who cares??? What a disgrace of a human being!!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

😭😭😭😭😭

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ItsMeAgain's avatar

Thank you both for your service. So glad your son returned safe to you.

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Remi Steele's avatar

Thank you.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pedo Joe was too busy checking his watch while the bodies came off the plane at Dover AFB.

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Blair's avatar

He's an absolute disgrace.

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Peter GL's avatar

yet when GHW Bush checked his watch after the debate he was crucified, compliments of the FREE (?) press we have

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

There is a huge difference between checking a watch after a debate, as opposed to checking a watch while 13 dead military members' bodies are being offloaded a military plane.

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Peter GL's avatar

Not to the country hating liberal press. In fact, checking the watch after a debate is INFINATELY worse than 13 dead military members. Maybe he wanted to make sure he was on schedule to meet with his handlers on what to do or say next

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Bush is a war criminal...along with Tony Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney, C. Rice, etc.

Bush's 2 former party animal daughters never joined the military...

...amazing how it is always someone else who makes sacrifices for this country.

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RU's avatar

Always. Also amazing to me how many people think there are two distinct political parties in the US when they are exactly the same on every issue of substance: anti-American; pro-globalization; (extremely) pro-war; against tax raises on elites and large corporations / for taxes, fees, tolls, etc. against the average person and the small business; pro-vax (except for themselves, who they exempted); pro-open borders; unwilling to tackle drug trafficking; unwilling to address child sex trafficking; pro-deficit spending and blowing up the national debt...the list could go on and on.

Administration after administration, whether "R" or "D." FWIW, the Bushes are more Establishment than any other family. They practically created the modern version of it after HW left the CIA to help contain Reagan.

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rolandttg's avatar

Their real name Is Scherff. Emigrated from Germany. They are, and always have been Nazis. Prescott Bush, 41's father, actively financially siided the Germans before and during WWII. And FYI, the Clintons made their bones running drugs through Mena airport for Bush. They are two sides of the same coin. Wanna watch a bloshevik's head explode ? Tell them that. I've done it.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

I've been explaining the Mena Airport thing for years. It's like trying to make a cat look at itself in a mirror.

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rolandttg's avatar

I just did a quick search, and found this very long article which I only partially read enough of to see if it tied in with what I already knew, and it does. Much more too. Tesla is discussed all throughout the article, and I never knew the connection before. I was actually looking for the Averil Harriman bank connection . I'll go back and read it all later

https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2020/02/the-history-and-mission-of-the-nazi-illuminati-bush-scherff-crime-family-2654405.html

And here is another article. It also mentions Bush 41 abandoning his plane and leaving his 2 crew members to die in WWII. My father was a pilot / navigator in bomber command of the RAF, and somehowhe know this story and told me ~50 years ago. Possibly because he read virtually every WWII book in the Brampton Ontario library. Needless to say, he had absolutely no use for Bush after he did this.

https://supersoldiertalk.com/here-is-the-real-ghw-bush-illuminati-nazi-fuhrer-fourth-reich-proof/

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I might have made this comment in the past (not sure) but I shook hands with Georgie Bush 41 when I worked work on the Reagan Bush ‘84 campaign. I immediately pulled my hand away and looked at him in horror. I felt such darkness in his shake. He was a man to be feared. I have never had this happen again with anyone. My dad is a decorated war veteran with two Purple Hearts. He did not care for 41 but never said why. I have also shaken hands with Bush 42 but he was all lightness and sunshine. So this story does not surprise me.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Poppy was in Dallas 22 November 1963.

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Kim D's avatar

Speaking of the Press, if you didn't think Journlism could get any more compromised take a look at the School of Journalism for U of TX at Austin and their latest addition:

https://mediaengagement.org/solidarity-journalism/

Soros funded ofcourse..............

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Man-i's avatar

Remember when that arab reporter threw his shoe at Bush?! That was one of the greatest things ive ever seen

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CMCM's avatar

Very few Americans know the meaning behind the show throw. In the Arab world you don't show the bottom of your shoes to anyone, such as sitting in a cross-legged way so that the shoe soles are visible. Throwing a shoe at someone is a huge insult. With Bush, it was well deserved.

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Man-i's avatar

I totally got it

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

Most of them just babies. Rest in peace, sweet ones.

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MoM's avatar

Breaks my heart every time I see their names and ages. They never even had a chance to experience how beautiful life can be.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

It’s a privilege to pray for the families who will mourn their loss forever. Obidumb is directly responsible for the humiliating debacle that took place and has their blood on his hands. The man has no soul.

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Peter GL's avatar

Thank you for the reminder

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SusanMc's avatar

😭only one was out of his 20’s.

Horribly unnecessary deaths. On you, Joe.

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CMCM's avatar

Joe the phony Catholic will be accountable to God soon.

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RU's avatar

It is such a shame that this entire debacle has been swept under the rug by the media. Thank you for reminding.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Along with so many other things.

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Julie's avatar

Thanks for the reminder. I bought 13 American flags and displayed them in front of our home when this happened two years ago and have done so on the anniversary since then. I attended Dylan Merola’s memorial as he lives in the town adjacent to us and I will never forget this tragedy that never should have happened. Stolen elections have consequences.

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MoM's avatar

We are thinking alike. I do the same thing. I bought 13 garden flags and I leave them up for 13 days, each day I honor and pray for each one of them. Thank you for being a reminder to your neighbors and others who see it.

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WP William's avatar

Towns and counties SHOULD commemorate and memorialize the day and those willfully sacrificed and maimed as a Day of Failure in Retreating from Foreign Intervention. The DEEP STATE and Dems saw nothing wrong and zero mistakes made and the "what difference does it make" attitude toward OUR honorable soldiers (their pawns). push your Town Councils and Trustees to memorialize the "successful" withdrawal in some official manner.

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MoM's avatar

I like this idea. I will contact our city council.

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WP William's avatar

it must be palatably worded and presented but it's worth pushing....if they decline to do it then they can proudly state why they disavow such a declaration to memorialize our heroes.

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WP William's avatar

Afghanistan Service Day; Tribute and Memorial to ALL who served. With particular emphasis on The Brave 13 who were sacrificed Aug 26th, 2021. Publicly READ or display the quotes of our "leaders" in regard to the bungled withdrawal and abandoning of Americans and others to the control of the Taliban. It's not finger pointing it's FACTUAL. I like the idea of the 24th (Day of the unchallenged Suicide attack) over the 31st of Aug--the day Everyone who was callously left behind was told they wanted to stay or they'd have been extracted already. Either day works as a remembrance standing as both a Memorial to the Brave and Testament to the architects and Overseers of the debacle, betrayal, and retreat.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Alice and people in our country will still vote for him .... boggles my mind

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Janet's avatar

If you’re referring to the above Alice P. you should watch what she posted.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Not sure how anyone can vote for Brandon

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Susan Banks's avatar

Thank you so much for listing these precious names! I will call out each name along with their families. God Bless you! 🙏

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Jennifer Beebe's avatar

💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

May we never forget!!! Thank you for this beautiful reminder. These 13 warriors were so young and brave and valiant.

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MayBella82's avatar

Those lives and the ones who were left behind and killed... it was a horrible day in our history. I pray God is holding all of them in his loving and merciful arms.

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David Wolosik's avatar

Thank you for reminding us. How despicable when the killer could have been taken out multiple times!

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MoM's avatar

And yet no one has paid for their actions. Tyler Vargas Andrews was on Shawn Ryan’s podcast and he made it very clear that there was a clean shot but that no one would authorize it. I have heard the same account by others interviewed.

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TriTorch's avatar

I can sum all of this up with:

If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain -Edmund Burke

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Kelli's avatar

I'm over 60 and was liberal/progressive up until 2019. Even voted for the Big O, twice. First year of Trump I was re-posting all those nasty liberal memes. (Just confessing.) The second year of Trump I was getting tired of trying to change things that I had no control over, so I just stopped paying attention to politics. Plus, I started noticing how much better everything seemed to be getting, especially economically. My 401k/IRA, looked really good, employers were happy, etc. By year 3 of Trump I started noticing most of my liberal friends were obsessed, for lack of a better word. ALL they could talk about was how much they hated Trump. It was off the charts, and the more they talked, the darker they became, and increasingly unable to recognize anything positive. Then, in 2019, I started reading about all of the school shot mandates for children, and heard a doctor say that not only were democrats doing most of the pushing to block school access for un-vaxxed kids, but that they were coming for the adults next. THEN, 2020 happened. And I finally understood why conservatives fought government-run health care (it's all about control, not health), as well as so many other issues. Took a while, and that was one big f-ing Red Pill, but now I get it...

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TriTorch's avatar

Great story Kelli, kudos for escaping the political gravity well - that is far from an easy thing for most people to do. Left vs right has so many minds trapped in a deathgrip, and as you pointed out, these people fill up with hate and tend to lose their tether to reality.

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Truthseeker's avatar

That’s a hopeful story Kelli. Thanks for sharing.

This video is a must see for anyone trying to understand what’s happened in our schools and institutions today

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0hybqg81n-M&feature=youtu.be

I think it’s helped me to plainly see that the schools and universities are teaching this type of ‘cognitive distortion’… and the media is pushing it also

When people are taught to think a certain way… they don’t have the flexibility to see both sides of issues

https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/empowering-american-mind-beta-version-10-principles-opposing

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SusanMc's avatar

Get your children out & away from these indoctrination centers before you loose them forever.

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N Springer's avatar

At least you took the red pill. The red suppository isn’t going to go as easily!

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Flipflopgirl's avatar

Most are liberal until they get their first paycheck and realize the government stole 35% of their hard earned money.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

"Your dollar ain't schit and it's taxed to no end"

Courtesy of Rich Men North Of Richmond.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup that’s very true 😁

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TriTorch's avatar

Hahahaha, that's an on target observation, thanks for the laugh!

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Mike's avatar

Except for that percentage of liberals who believes the government should tax more because they aren’t making enough.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Love that quote. Makes the point very well.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I have always been a conservative so apparently I have no heart 😆

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devoalan's avatar

Been conservative since about sixteen. And a musician. So I've been up against it, and still am, 53 years later

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S.P.H.'s avatar

There's something about the artistic mind that just seems to leans left, it's a strange phenomena. Kudos devoalan for breaking the mold, and surviving in your artistic endeavors.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

That is a fact. I don't get it either. I have numerous musician friends, recently I ran into one and he was almost in dismay when he exclaimed "I am a Republican now". First words out of his mouth, then we got around to the greetings of seeing each other. You had to be there and know the guy, but it was hilarious for me. The vaxx is what did it for him. He was physically attacked by another musician for refusing the vaxx and he is no longer welcome to play gigs. Sad.

My guess is that the artistic are so desperate to be popular, famous, whatever, they go w/the group think to remain safe, or they just have warped DNA.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for you!! 💪

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OnTheJump's avatar

Whip It, Myers.

Whip It Good.

?

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Tom's avatar

I was a very vocal and insufferable liberal when I was a toddler.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆 Well since a lot of the liberals I know seemed to started and remained in that stage, I guess that makes sense 😆

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

Me too-give me those toys when I want them, whenever I want them!! Lol

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PamelaZelie's avatar

And I’m afraid they’ll make me a liberal and Democrat once I’m dead!

(Dead people have their vote stolen; Biden became president, didn’t he?)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh yeah I guess I should be worried about that too 😳😆

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RU's avatar

I have to admit to having fallen for the BS when I was younger, becoming liberal after starting out conservative. While I had moved on a good while ago, the last few years have seen the final unraveling of the remains of the propaganda. It's amazing how it is more a spiritual and psychological process than it is actual or real. These things - the ideas of the propagandists, the " political beliefs" - are just lenses the powers-that-be insert b/w us and reality. On "both sides." Psy-ops the whole way down.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

Ditto. I ran for Judge on the Geen Party ticket in 2016. That was about the time all the liberals I knew began to start behaving irrationally. My longtime hippie friends began just loving the establishment and by covid, were total devotees to the deep state while I found myself on the side of Christians and conservatives.

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WIMomof3's avatar

Being a liberal was different back then… boy have times changed and things flip flopped. I think your old school, anti gov, 60s hippies, would be rolling in their graves to see what today’s modern libs belief system is up to now.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

I'm 65 and the most pot-smoking, Grateful Dead loving 70 year olds I knew back in Tucson became some of the most boosted and still wear masks.

The Food Coop was the first place to yell at me and kick me out for not wearing one. Something changed, my friend and I think we are all unraveling it together-in forums like this. (Thanks, Jeff!)

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WilliamD's avatar

I had a really bad case of liberalism when I was younger, mainly because for many years I was very into the sex, drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. In 1980, I actually swore to my family that I would move to Canada if Reagan was elected. Fortunately, I was too high to even go out for groceries when it actually happened. Then, after being hospitalized yet again for chronic alcoholism in 2019, I had what one might call a "Religious Experience" and when I woke up I was a "Christian Conservative" and have only grown in conviction over the last four years. I guarantee that literally nobody could have seen that coming!

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Tom's avatar

God took the scales off my eyes around the same time! 2019-ish. It was a whole process.

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peggy bean's avatar

I'm a 76 year old pot-smoking grateful dead loving hippie who never wore a mask or took the jabs or believed the bs. Can't understand my radical hippie friends who did. I blame it on TDS.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

I do too! They spent 4 years driving them nuts with Trump/Russiagate garbage.

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Kim D's avatar

Yep, same in Santa Fe NM. I lost nearly all my friends to the psyop and finally said farewell to a place I loved for it's once peaceful wide open spaces and tranquility. I returned home to Florida, land of the free but also unrestrained growth. The trade off is Florida still adheres to the Constitution.

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

Love NM!! Sadly, Santa Fe has always been much like Tucson. I moved to Texas myself and live here now.

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RU's avatar

In a way, it makes sense. You can't really be "left" or "liberal" without supporting collectivism and therefore big government. For most of their lives, they were able to convince themselves that "the government" was "the man" and "the man" was conservative. Seems to me that was an inversion of reality. Still very odd to see it all happening, all at once in just a few years. Like the poles of the magnet have flipped and agreed-upon reality is no longer what it was.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Nancy, Mark Oshinskie has T-shirts which say, " I survived Coronamania, Unmasked, Unjabbed, Unafraid". I wonder what would happen if you walked into the Coop wearing that shirt? Would you be Rittenhoused?

https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/yet-another-t-shirt-update?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=441698&post_id=135974717&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Michael.. I got one of those shirts !! The looks and the comments 😵‍💫😫

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Michael Framson's avatar

Are you collecting comments and looks in a diary and will publish a commentary? How long have you had one, and do you want to share a short story? I couldn't get my act together to order.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I told Mark there are 3 types of comments … absolute vitriol and hate and that “ to wear that your a Trumper and and idiot , science denier“ . The second are the folks that are a little jealous and upset with themselves that they took a jab or two and got sick, and “ wish they didn’t “. The third type are like “hell yeah , I’m with you 100%”.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I personally think it’s mostly posturing, not conviction or principles. Just wanting to belong to what they considered the “cool club,” at that time, and now, too.

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LizardFro's avatar

As Andrew Tate said in that recent interview with Tucker - there are 2 types of people - “thinkers” and “repeaters”

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RU's avatar

Never thought I'd see the day the "liberals" were arguing against the 1st Amendment. Not that they didn't always have an authoritarian streak...but to ditch the cognitive dissonance entirely and fully embrace their inner fascist has been a revelation, of sorts.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

They’re still very much for it for their side. The non-hate speech, side doncha know….

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Willing Spirit's avatar

This sixties hippie is still above ground and not at all surprised because it was quite obvious it was just a virtue signaling hypocritical movement

from the get go. Give us unlimited sex and drugs and no consequences or responsibilities, you square, unenlightened rednecks, or we’ll sic the Weathermen and the Black Panthers on you!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

They aren't dead...they just all moved to Eugene Oregon so they could have free masks

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OnTheJump's avatar

Damn Libs steal EVERYTHING.

Your heart; tax dollars; elections; Hunter's cocaine.....

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Laura Barrett's avatar

Me too! I can also say with fairly reliable accuracy, that my kids are conservative as well. They are 19, 17, and 15 with for their ages, good heads on their shoulders. I disagree that the statement that started this thread, applies to any generation born after 1980. For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness, so there is no other option then to be personally conservative and in matters of government, libertarian/ Constitutionalist. Homeschooling children well is a good way to indoctrinate them to become good people.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My siblings and I were also always conservative and I daresay my kids are as well. At least I hope so. I talk to them a lot about what I believe and why. Family experience with totalitarian regimes helps personalize cautionary tales about big government. One of mine went to private school but the other has been a combination of private and homeschool.

“For us, the opposite of conservatism is foolishness”

Love this! Agree 🙂

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TSumm's avatar

With ya, sister!

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TriTorch's avatar

Nah RunningLogic, you were just one step ahead of a lot of us. ^_^

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well you’re very kind 🥰

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Elaine Elias's avatar

Maybe high IQ

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RunningLogic's avatar

☺️🥰

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daiva's avatar

Huh, you wish! 😏 Nothing is ever so simple in thoroughly insane clown world accelerating by the half day, saturated with criss-crossing psyops of most incredibly exotic species... 😳

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TriTorch's avatar

Haha, nice, you're right. Fine, here is something so simple (you asked for it daiva):

Strength is being able to crush a tomato.

Dexterity is being able to dodge a tomato.

Constitution is being able to eat a bad tomato.

Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit.

Wisdom is knowing not to put a tomato in a fruit salad.

Charisma is being able to sell a tomato-based fruit salad.

A tomato based fruit salad is salsa!

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daiva's avatar

So glad it transpired I asked! 🤩

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SusanMc's avatar

Old promo

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CStone's avatar

I am under the impression that they use a lot of pork fat in those ‘superfoods’, and if that’s true, the book would be useless for me.

I have thought about ordering it, but want to find out if that is true.

So. My question is, do the recipes use a lot of lard.....pork.....??

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Remi Steele's avatar

Yeah, Beth spams a lot of substacks with that "comment."

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Man-i's avatar

To be or not to be - shakespeare

To be is to do”—Socrates.

“To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre.

“Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.

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Lew's avatar

That is SO corny ... but I love corny jokes ... that's why I'm ROFL!

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Lew's avatar

Just to give you an idea HOW corny ... I still love the Marx Bros!

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Man-i's avatar

The Buddha himself is reincarnated and decides to visit New York City. While he is there is gets hungry and decides to get a hot dog from the a hot dog vendor cart on the street. The Buddha goes to the hot dog vendor and and tells him

"Make me one with everything" and hands the hot dog vendor a $20 bill. After a short wait the hot dog vendor hands the Buddha his hot dog which he starts eating and waits for his change. When the hot dog vendor fails to give him his change, the Buddha asks,

"Where is my change."

To which the hot dog vendor replies

"Change comes from within."

;)

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Monterey's avatar

The best tomato-based fruit salad is caprese.

Especially right now, while the heirloom tomatoes are in Season in my neck of the woods---

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

One of my favorite tomato salads is par-boiled cherry tomatoes so the skin comes off easily and then soak 'em in vodka. Serve w/a toothpick and a side bowl of ground Himalayan salt w/a little pepper spun in to dip them in.

I also love slow baked olive oil drizzled thinly sliced Roma tomatoes w/mixed spices/herbs til they shrivel up to be like sun-dried tomatoes.

Sorry, don't mean to start a recipe thread here, but it is prime excess of what do I do w/all these tomatoes season.

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TriTorch's avatar

Hey watch it! I'm on a diet over here! -Just kidding =)

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Monterey's avatar

-Not to worry- tomatoes with fresh basil and fresh mozzarella won't kill your diet--

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Crazy, man, crazy!

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Clever, TriTorch!

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TriTorch's avatar

Thanks S.P.H, but I did not write that. I believe that original attribution to be D&D Stats, here: 'D&D Stats' on Reddit

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Jennifer's avatar

I take great offense. I was more like 38ish when I became conservative. ;-)

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TriTorch's avatar

Hahaha, hey look, Jennifer, we all can't be early bloomers like RunningLogic up ^ there. Some of us are a little slow (ME) and need a little extra seasoning and time in the oven before we're ready to emerge and take on the world as fully-fledged members of a sane and shrewd conservative society. There is no shame in that! ;-)

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Tracy's avatar

But you got there. That's what counts.👍

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Niki Stone's avatar

For me, add to that: if your not a balance of liberal and conservative by 45 you will not thrive

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TriTorch's avatar

Agree - incorporate the best of both worlds into your thinking and discard the chaff.

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Niki Stone's avatar

I truly believe we are moving into the peoples party vs the pedo party. Neither side can be trusted and it seems that the moderates or independents have the ability to think of both sides arguments and put forward compromise without the corruption.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

That’s a quote I heard SOOO many years ago! Truth never gets old.

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OnTheJump's avatar

So

Flippin'

True

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

My friend, Jeff, attributed this quote to Winnie Churchill--whoever spoke it first--was over the age of 35!!

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Dick Davis's avatar

Thought it was Churchill

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TriTorch's avatar

Looked into it before posting, Mr. Davis:

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/

"In conclusion, the earliest strong match known to QI appeared in a letter written by Anselme Batbie in 1872. Significantly, Batbie credited the remark to “Burke”, probably Edmund Burke. QI has not yet located this expression in the writings of Burke, and it is possible that Burke’s changing political behavior inspired the saying and not his words."

So it may not have even been Burke. Or it may have been Churchill or someone else.

"What is history, but a fable agreed upon?" -Bovier de Fontenelle

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JJ's avatar

Ok so have yal SEEN the videos coming out of Fulton county Ga of Trump's motorcade? The quote is "how does the dem party lose the rest of the black vote? Make Trump famous with a mug shot" he is now hood famous! 😂🤣 The street was lined with them shouting free Trump and them saying he's gangsta gangsta. I believe they have unbelievably screwed up! Sales for tshirts with his mugshot are thru the roof.

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Peregrine's avatar

If the Trump folks were smart, they'd give away mugshot T-Shirts.

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SPONGEWORTHY47's avatar

but THE MOTORCADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is supposed to be a 20 minute travesty at some podunk GEORGIA jail??? 2 AMBULANCES? 21 MOTORCYCLE COPS???? ALMOST 20 VEHICLES AFTER THE MOTORCYCLE COPS??? WTF WAS THAT. It looked like a "motorcade" for the KING OF THE WORLD...i guess it was. and , yeah, THE BLACK VOTE HAS MOVED!!!

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YYR's avatar

Tucker just asked Trump why wouldn't they just assassinate him next... The drive to booking was a vulnerable route.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

That is my fear YYR. Death is the only move 'they' have remaining. Pray for the mans protection.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Pray for yourselves. Everything they are trying to do to Trump they will do the “deplorables”.

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Man-i's avatar

They might infiltrate the secret service , dig up some dirt on one of the agents and bribe or blackmail them to poison him or knock him off somehow. Remember when Indira Ghandi was murdered by her own Silkh bodyguard

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

Given the full backup of the motorcade, one would be tempted to ask whether he is really an “ex” President? Hint hint, Devolution and Continuity of Government keeps popping into the collective mindset.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I said the same thing. I saw that motorcade and it raised my eyebrows. Really? This looks more like a real Presidential motorcade. 🤔 Devokution still has a lot of teeth.

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

Agree. I continue to listen to the Devolution Power Hour, hoping that theory is correct. It’s not the only place it is explored, but I like Jon Herold’s dogged, plowing approach to the issue, studying the executive orders etc. Hoping it’s true.

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Emily 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼's avatar

Have you not seen Biden’s?? Talk about carbon footprint.

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Alison Smith's avatar

That's because Trump isn't really the "former" president. All of this is happening to bring down the establishment elite.

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Jeff C's avatar

Kind of surprised Trump didn't stop, get out, and shake hands with people as that would have been the ultimate PR move. Missed opportunity by the master promoter, but we can't expect him to think of everything.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I just read an article online that of the 18 co-defendants in this "racketeering" lawsuit against 45--only ONE of them is still languishing in jail (that horrid trench Fulton County jail). He's a multi-racial (black mostly) guy who was recruited by a pastor to go to the January 6th demonstration to support Trump's claim of "rigged elections". The pastor is also a "co defendant"--but he was able to post bond. This "guy of color" didn't have the funds to post bond or even hire an attorney. PERHAPS--WE SHOULD DO A MULTIPLIER FOR HIM--he's languishing in jail--a HORRID JAIL at that--just for joining in what should have been a peaceful demonstration - turned into a horrific riot act--BUT NOT BECAUSE OF THIS GUY attending it. Hey, Atty. Jeff Childers--how about helping out this "co defendant" to the Trump 4th indictment--he has a WIFE AND 4 CHILDREN at home!! He cannot support his family languishing in jail! https://news.yahoo.com/harrison-floyd-iii-one-two-170732596.html

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Tom's avatar

Someone should silk screen the mouth from his mugshot onto a covid mask.

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bbqbill's avatar

Brenden Dilly on Twitter:

“The streets have never had a President. They’ve never had someone they could relate to, at least on some level, about a particular struggle or unjust circumstance…

Until last night. Last night, the streets were given a champion. They were given someone who they could see being set up, railroaded, arrested, and humiliated, just the way they have for decades.

Real recognizes real, and last night, the establishment uniparty made what will go down as the biggest mistake in modern history.

They martyred Trump and gave the streets a reason to love him."

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Lew's avatar

Trump brought black unemployment down to historic levels during his term and yet they still mostly voted for Biden in 2020.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

His mug shot is so brilliant and good!!! I want a tshirt for sure!! I am thinking of becoming gansta too!! Haha!!

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Monterey's avatar

Yep, just like this guy---" when are you guys gonna learn, the more you indict the more we unite... The hood's got this guy's back!"

https://twitter.com/BrandonStraka/status/1695265654327460258

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Yes with all the Trump publicity, the Democrats risk alienating the black vote so they drop from 90% to 89%.

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Juliann's avatar

Yeah. Free food and gift cards at the polls will get them back. Worked in 2020.

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Lew's avatar

It is well-known that the pastors/ministers at most of the local black churches here (Gainesville FL) hand out Democratic Party cash to the parishioners at election time. That generally negates (trumps?) anything else.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

But do they watch them vote? Can they vote for Trump and take the Dems money anyway?

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Lew's avatar

Your questions have obvious answers that we both know, but I have a question for you to which only you know the answer. If you took money from someone in return for promising to vote for a certain candidate, would you just keep the money and vote for someone else?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

If I would take money for such a thing, I probably could do a double cross as well.

But that’s a huge IF.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lol, I thought the same!!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I tried to pull up that page, YYR--it's been REMOVED! Same old, same old stuff happening.

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Janet's avatar

I just watched as well. Hope he’s for real. Would def want him on “my” side 😳.

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SusanMc's avatar

Pulled up for me🤷🏻‍♀️

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I just tried again--got the same error message "Page Not Found"!! I wonder if I'm being "tracked"?

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MoM's avatar

This comment made my day.

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Jo Highet's avatar

My kids returned to school on the 8th and promptly, within 1 week, came down with a 2 day flu that wiped them out for an entire weekend - as in they slept the whole day and night with a stuffy nose and sore throat. As far as I’m concerned they have their natural immunity to any Corona virus aka flu strain for the rest of the year.

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Natalie's avatar

Kids spend summer playing outside and at camp and daycare being exposed to germs and are fine...then they get to public school, trapped inside for 8 hours with highly chemically cleaned environment, hardly any play/exercise/sunlight...it's not surprising they get sick out the gate like an allergic reaction to the unnatural environment. A good number of them had to have booster before returning too...those are the things I see as interesting factors...we're going into our 3rd year homeshool...4th if you include remote year...during this time my kids play sports attend church activities we go out to eat and shopping etc...but while everyone gets the first week sickies...we're fine no sickies here idk

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Gram's avatar

Don't forget the public school EMFs and imprisonment in a chair. Your children are blessed with you as a parent! Bravo Natalie!!!

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Natalie's avatar

Yes! And Thank you! I'm blessed! But a few years ago I would've never considered anything we're doing/living now !! Watching The Fall of the Cabal during lock down was the red pill I needed...but it wasn't until the wasted year of remote school that I realized God made me for the time such as this, and we never looked back! We said Bye to Vs, bye to public school, bye to oyr old church...and hello to truth!

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Laura Barrett's avatar

Do you want to be friends, seriously? I’m on other social media trying to connect like minded Moms for such a time as this.

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Natalie's avatar

Lol ! I currently have a friend...we only connected bc I said something on a page that she thought might be useful against her full vax minded family ...we "talk" regularly on PM! Yes! Let's be friends!

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Nancy Drew's avatar

I have been thinking about this too as I work through this new understanding that symptomatic illness is your body's detox stage.... that maybe this back to school illness thing thought to be from the children mixing is indeed the body's including the parents just rebalancing to the schedule change & other associated environmental changes. The author also indicates he got sick after his kids went back to school and it is likely his environment did not have as many changes, though I guess there is an energetic component with those you live with maybe. Curious if people have more examples of affecting changes at this time that would explain the needed detox phase that seems to be understood to always occur?

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NAB's avatar

We always called it the "welcome back to school flu." All the kids got it every September. It was never a big deal before.

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M VARR's avatar

A LOT of kids may be getting 'jabbed' before going to school and shedding.

That can explain the illnesses

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AngelaK's avatar

I heard from a coworker that it us going around. He fought it with chills and rest, his sister is full blown under the weather. It was not covid.

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Gram's avatar

There is no such thing as 'covid'!

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WP William's avatar

call it what you want; a Bioweapon or Agent was deployed upon mankind that took a toll.

The Pro-Wrestling Pro-VAXX community chats are insane over Bray Wyatt's death at 36 this week from heart attack due to complications of "long CoVid" urging people to get vaxxed and boosted although it won't apparently prevent jack squat, and blaming all rising heart and vascular issues among young people on the effects of CoVid and NOTHING whatever to blame on Vaxx Injuries. Never a bad comment at Bioweapon makers/leakers, complaints about Not hard enough lock downs, We are at an IMPASSE with IDIOCY there is no way to compromise with TYRANTS and their FAN BASE

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I babysat a first grader for a friend on Thursday, who was perfectly well, but barred from school because of a doctor’s note.

Kid had a fever on Sunday. Mom was worried because his private school will not excuse absence without a doctor’s note and apparently an unexcused absence is a horrific thing.

Mom took him to an Urgent Care, where they insisted on testing and claimed he had the flu and couldn’t attend school for a week.

By Monday afternoon, he was absolutely fine.

We need to return to reason, where parents can monitor a child with a fever, keep them home until 24 hours post fever have passed, then return them to life.

Inserting the medical professionals into this unnecessarily is a very bad idea and is causing hardship. This mom felt she had no choice given the private school’s draconian rules, which I bet are pretty standard now.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

If at all possible HOME SCHOOLING is a wonderful option to turning our impressionable children over to the wack jobs who are in control in the public schools now!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I certainly agree!

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Peter GL's avatar

problem is the "science" (read Fauci) has stated that there is no such thing as natural immunity for the corona virus

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Gram's avatar

Here Fauci says natural immunity is best: 🙃 At 11:00:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3jiM2FNR8&t=681s

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

And that’s a load of crap.

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Karen Walby Ph. D.'s avatar

My husband I got that from our grandkids. But it took us down for 5 days! (We are 76.)

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AJWinkel's avatar

Oh good Lord - Please Dear God awaken peoples mind!!! Abbott needs to take over that TX school district like he did Houston - that's unforgivable! He literally just tweeted no masks in TX. I want to share with you all here - because you are all fully awake and not believing in the scamdemic or clot shots - as I've learned we must know how to take care of ourselves at home and not rely on this mainstream medical that slaps band aids on. There is a Facebook group called "The Natural Health Library" about 250k members - private group (looks like a wall of books with a mans head as the image) and then Terry who founded this years ago also made a website www.thenaturalhealthlibrary.com. You need to register for this website. I'm a moderator and just help answer peoples health questions - you will be amazed. You can ask away or just use magnifying glass to search for whatever ailment you may have. FB group - they have to be very careful and feel they are close to being shut down....hence the back-up website. You will learn a lot and I think as we have learned - when you feel in control (of your health and other things) you don't feel as stressed. God Bless Jeff - stay well - we must stay united and keep helping each other!

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GG's avatar

I think awakening people's minds would result in Texans throwing Abbott overboard post haste. He seems to govern like a Bush. I'm seeing what he's allowing to happen to Paxton and I'm thinking Texans got hoodwinked.

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AL's avatar

So may cities, counties and states got hoodwinked. Most of these candidates appeared out of nowhere, but all cam e from the same place and were all Soros-funded. To be able to successfully infiltrate government this way, on every level, takes enormous planning and money and perhaps some election tampering if necessary. But the scarier part is why and what they aim to accomplish.

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GG's avatar

They've been planning this for over 100 years. Go read Whittaker Chambers' "Witness." They've been in our government since the 1920's, at least.

Also I read something recently that put me into McKinsey & Company. They're neck deep in all the atrocities that are going on all over the world.

It wasn't sudden. It was centuries in the making. They're patient. But they mean to destroy the world.

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AL's avatar

Yes! I read the Toby Rogers Substack on McKinsey--very eye opening and really closed a lot of gaps for me. I will read Chambers--thanks!

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GG's avatar

I think you were the one who gave me the link to that SubStack!

I need to read the book to know if I agree with Rogers' assessment of it but I imagine he reported correctly when naming the industries McKinsey is involved in and it's mind-blowing. I think it also lays bare man's capacity for evil.

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AL's avatar

It really does. And how they operate. They can take the common man (or woman) and turn them into systematic evil doers --the worst rise to the top.

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GG's avatar

It's kind of like "The Devil's Advocate." No, it is like "The Devil's Advocate." I mean, I don't think Satan is trying to get his kids to get down and have his Antichrist grandson, but the way the devil seduces Keanu Reeves' character is much the same as what McKinsey died.

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AJWinkel's avatar

Want to add it is all free - we are all there to just help each other!

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Peace's avatar

Thank you for your work with Terry, Angie and other moderators! The info from their FB page and website is incredibly valuable. I've learned so much and it's my first go to when I have any type of health/dietary question. Not to mention I've obtained a colloidal silver brewer from them that is keeping me stocked with as much colloidal silver as I need for internal and external uses as well as cleaning/sanitizing purposes.

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Shelle's avatar

I know a few ways to use silver: nasal sprays, eyewash, and I think it can be used directly on skin as a disinfectant, but I could use to be educated on more practical ways you use it.

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AnitaB's avatar

I use it on my mosquito bites, the itch is gone in about 5 minutes.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

1. It gets rid of poison ivy.

2. Put it on tick bites to prevent lyme disease.

3. It cures brown recluse spider bites.

4. It cured a copperhead bite on my dog's head. The next time I get bit, I'm going to use it on mine instead of going to the hospital.

5. Put it in a nebulizer along with food grade hydrogen peroxide, and a few drops of iodine to cure strep throat, colds, the flu, and probably other stuff.

6. It cures outer ear infections. Maybe inner ear too, I've just not tried it for that.

7. Mix it with salt and a little hydrogen peroxide (too much hydrogen peroxide and you'll gag!) and gargle it to cure sore throats.

8. Swish your mouth with it mixed with salt and baking soda to cure canker sores and abscessed teeth.

I know there are other uses, but these are the things we've successfully used it for.

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AJWinkel's avatar

Thanks for sharing - the uses are pretty endless. We nebulize with it too against all colds, flus, etc. Nasal rinse, ear drops for ear infection, drops in eye for pink eye. Since I started making our own, we never really go to dr for anything:) I call it natures antibiotic without the harmful side effects and destruction of gut microbiome like prescription antibiotics. I brew so much and give out to free - use for burns too!

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Shelle's avatar

I never thought of trying it for burns! I'm curious how it works for that. Thanks for the tips!

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Peace's avatar

I like to hydrate bentonite clay with cs and apply about 1/2 inch on the burn site, covered with plastic wrap to keep it moist. Don't let it dry out - change to new application daily and the pain will be minimized with beautiful healing.

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AJWinkel's avatar

You just soak the area in a cup of it - or if hard to get to a place like that - soak a gauze or cotton pad in the Colloidal Silver and hold over the area and keep rewetting and applying. I burned my hand and it was crazy how fast it healed and didn't go to blister.

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Peace's avatar

Great list, Queen H! I've used it successfully to clear an infection on my cuticle when my dog accidentally shoved his tooth down the cuticle as we were wrestling with a ball. I make my own version of Xlear subbing out Colloidal silver for the water portion and have stayed healthy for the 1.5 years I've been using it morning and night. I hydrate bentonite clay to make a paste that is great for burns - takes the pain away and heals them beautifully. A family member got a deep cut on their hand (mason jar broke in their hand) and we put his wound in a bag with dry bentonite clay which stopped the profuse bleeding immediately. I then used bentonite clay hydrated with cs on the wound - mound about 1/2 inch thick and kept covered with plastic wrap until healed (we changed out the poultice daily and keep covered so it doesn't dry out.

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Shelle's avatar

This is awesome, so helpful!

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Tom's avatar

I've read that you could put a silver coin in a water barrel to keep things from growing.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Tom, in my research years ago on silver I read the settlers placed a silver coin in the milk jug to keep it from spoiling. Remember, there were no convenience stores on the trail west, you pulled a wagon with an oxen and milked her along the way. The men hunted for game every day. Preserving what little food you had was life itself.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I’ve used it to treat pink eye for my kids and myself. It’s magic. Also for colds and allergy symptoms.

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Peace's avatar

You can learn a ton about this on the FB page The Natural Health Library or at their website. The uses are endless it seems!

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Also only use verified colloidal silver to avoid poisoning and ending up with permanently deep blue skin.

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AJWinkel's avatar

That is a myth basically - there is one man that drank obnoxious amounts of heavily overbrewed colloidal silver and did this on purpose to turn blue. That myth should not be out there - because the benefits are huge! You cannot poison yourself with Colloidal silver - it's natures antibiotic. So I'm not sure where you got that misinformation other than someone of course trying to not help people take care of themselves at home. We all drink 8 oz. a day and nowhere near blue - just blue to hear these inaccuracies being written. Colloidal Silver helps people with Lymes, MS, ear infection, eye infection, strep, UTIs, cuts, burns. We all homebrew our own, knowledge is power, once you know the uses and how to make - you'll understand:)

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

There are many documented cases of Agyria. It is absolutely a real danger from over-consumption of silver. See Rosemary Jacobs, who was using eyedrops as a child and has had the blue skin since she was 11.

She is in the Guiness Book of Records.

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AJWinkel's avatar

I'll just say this - FALSE. Fear mongering does not help the natural health field. Look at ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine - saved many lives - but if those people listened to the fear mongers like what you are posting - they wouldn't have benefited from the natural healing. WE have helped hundreds of thousands of people with Colloidal Silver - none have reported what you are sharing about. I wish you would look into a natural health site on the benefits and how it has helped so so very many than looking at the one or 2 that obviously did something wrong in taking not the Colloidal Silver we share and talk about. Just like chiropractors - there is always that one story right? Do you choose to hang onto that one story? Or do you choose to look at the thousands of people they have helped? I will never post a story about one person having a bad effect - but I sure as heck will post about thousands/millions having a bad effect (VAXXES!). Here is what Terry who teaches people how to brew their own Colloidal Silver to save on costs than buying at stores explains:

"So let's talk about the "Blue Man", Paul Karason ("Papa Smurf") in California:

He openly admitted he was making highly-concentrated solutions of colloidal silver using tap water with salt as an accelerant to boost the concentration far above normal levels.

And by his own admission he was drinking between 10 to 20 ounces per day of this highly-concentrated colloidal silver chloride solution. Indeed, he apparently did so daily for over 10 years before his facial skin began to turn blue.

So not only was this fellow’s homemade colloidal silver far, far more concentrated than normal (based on the colloidal silver solution he displayed on national television, I'd estimate it was at least 100 ppm or higher -- i.e., 10x the normal concentration of 10 ppm), but he was drinking a lot of it daily for 14 years.

As I previously posted, I drank 32 - 64 oz/day (1 to 2 quarts/liters) for 8 years, but it was mostly clear CS made with distilled water, and although I might feel blue once in a great while, I haven't turned blue!

Papa Smurf died of a heart attack, by-the-way, (needed to take Vit E). He was brewing for one hour one pint (500 ml) of colloidal silver with a 30-volt device using tap water, into which he had added extra salt (which will give you coffee-colored CS). He drank the whole pint of this dark, muddy CS everyday for 14 years (he later admitted he wanted to turn blue). He also didn't get sick once during those 14 years. You must go to great lengths to cause argyria (bluish skin). It's not easy, it takes commitment, consistency and great stupidity. It's NOT something you will accidentally cause.

All the warnings and cautions you will see from other folks that you should be careful or that what tap water brews is toxic or ineffective don't stand in the face of experience. If you can obtain steam distilled or deionized water or water that has been filtered through a 5-stage reverse osmosis device, use it. If you can't, there are folks all over the world who swear by their tap water CS.

The Royalty during the appropriately-termed "Dark Ages" mechanically ground up silver into powder and stirred it into liquid and drank it because of the sickness-resistant benefits it gave them. None of that silver was Ionic or Colloidal or Nano, since it wasn't made with electricity, but it was still an effective antimicrobial.

These immensely huge silver particles (millions or billions of times bigger than anything we make with electricity) would, indeed, kill pathogens, but would also get caught in the tiny capillaries in the skin and turn dark, some believe this is why the royalty were called "Blue-Bloods".

How much safer and more effective is virtually ANYTHING we make with electricity? No comparison.

So when you read someone stating that this or that type or form of silver is dangerous, the logical question to ask is, "Can you show me the reports of anyone being harmed?" The FDA says that they have NO reports of anyone being harmed by ingesting ANY amount of clear, electro-colloidal silver. (What we make.) You know this is true because if they had any such reports, they would be beating us over the head with those reports to try to scare us away!

If you are using tap water, well, spring, river, pond, filtered or reverse osmosis water to brew CS, you would cut the brewing time to about 10% (or less) of what you would do with steam distilled water; otherwise you'd end up with something very dark and murky (you would also dissolve your silver wire very fast).

You can use any water to brew CS, but if there are minerals, etc., in the water, it will turn cloudy/murky, and you will only want to brew 15-20 minutes. If it doesn't turn cloudy, you have mineral-free water and can make good quality CS."

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I make my own now, but I used to get it from a vet.

I am not remotely worried about blue skin, but it looks just like water, so I was worried that someone would sell me a gallon of water for $25 bucks.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

What are you making?

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Great! That is the safe form.

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Martin G's avatar

A large nano silver producer told me that nano or colloidal silver DOES NOT work against viruses. Hence, use the iodine/saline regimen but for me and family, it burns sinuses too much, even at recommend dosage.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

He's wrong. I've successfully used it against strep throat.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Did you add baking soda? This is what buffered saline contains to prevent the burning.

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Martin G's avatar

I did not try baking soda! I don't remember Peter McCullough having that as part of the protocol. How much do you use and what are the amounts of iodine and saline you use? thanks for the tip!

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AJWinkel's avatar

See I knew you were all a higher level of species! You already are there! Knowledge is power:)

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rolandttg's avatar

Abbott is 100 % deep state RINO. He is all in on the illegals cities they are building. One NE of Houston is 35-40 sq miles, and houses 200K . At least 3 or 4 more around TX.. Ann Van derSteele and Michael Yon have been all over this and reporting.

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CStone's avatar

From what I hear, Abbott is in with the WEF.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

This is exactly what I was praying would "evolve" all around the WORLD. The "science" is fallacious--GOOD HEALTH is based on certain "constants" (genetic pre disposition, environment, life choices, etc.) but running to the doctors whenever you have a DISorder--is bullfarkus!! There are so many GOOD self-help books available which I have purchased over the years because of my change in the way I looked at maintaining good health. I shared on here the journey with my husband and his receiving a diagnosis 1 year almost to the day after recovering from QUAD HEART BYPASS SURGERY--that diagnosis energized both of us to look for ALTERNATIVE treatments for his very rare (at that time) parotid cancer. We also called on the office of dr. JULIAN WHITAKER in CA (we live in PA) whose natural/holistic newsletter we had been receiving in the mail (pre internet) for several years. Dr. Whitaker referred us to a holistic MD in Philly who moved to the USA from India years before. The best news for my hubby came from that MD--after examining him (touching his body--especially around the lymph nodes all over his body--she told him, "If you follow my instructions, you can live to be 120"!! Imaging that--he was 74 at the time...and he lived another TWENTY years after that parotid gland cancer diagnosis!!! Mainstream allopathic medicine gave him "possibly" another 12 months post diagnosis!! DON'T TRUST ALLOPATHIC MEDICINE is my wholehearted advice--DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!

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AJWinkel's avatar

We just need to keep sharing the good word on our bodies are designed to heal themselves if given the right stuff! And we need to be stewards to share our stories. Thank you!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

So much of what we who believe in WHOLE medicine falls on deaf ears now--the masses are believing the trumped up "science" lies! It's like crying in the wilderness--which most prophets have done over the centuries!

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Shelle's avatar

Thanks for sharing!!

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AB's avatar

Link directed to an error page when trying to create an account. Just FYI

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

I got the same error page, so I went to a different browser and typed in the web address and it worked.

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AJWinkel's avatar

Try again today/tomorrow - I notified the people running the website - there are about 60k people on that one....I just wrote them to tell them that 4 people here stated they got error codes when trying to join.

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SusanMc's avatar

Same here

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Try again today/tomorrow - I notified the people running the website - there are about 60k people on that one....I just wrote them to tell them that 4 people here stated they got error codes when trying to join.

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Remi Steele's avatar

Thanks for the link! I joined.

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SusanMc's avatar

Trouble accessing it! Maybe I’ll try the FB page. Would rather have the website

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Try again today/tomorrow - I notified the people running the website - there are about 60k people on that one....I just wrote them to tell them that 4 people here stated they got error codes when trying to join.

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SusanMc's avatar

I can’t sign up for website; a popup w/ that 404 which says I’m lost & what I was looking for is lost😭

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AJWinkel's avatar

Try again today/tomorrow - I notified the people running the website - there are about 60k people on that one....I just wrote them to tell them that 4 people here stated they got error codes when trying to join.

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nt's avatar

“didn’t explain how the useless vaccines that don’t stop transmission”

It’s like no one knows this !👆

True Story: Friend went to ER walk-in clinic for a severe earache . They asked if she was vaccinated…freaked out she wasn’t…gave her a rapid test and then walked her to a door she thought was a room but was the BACK-ALLEY !!!!! Where she had to wait for results.

The BACk-ALLEY !!

Pretty much summarizes the brain infection .

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Remember this the next time you’re inclined to think the medical profession is populated by intelligent life forms.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Not always intelligent, and frequently very very wealthy. And frequently possessed of the "I-am-your-Lord" attitude.

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RU's avatar

Too wealthy. Too highly paid for what they do, which is basically prescribe drugs that the pharma sales reps (or pharma co's who sponsor the conferences) tell them to prescribe. There was a time when doctor was a solid, upper middle class job. Now, it's upper crust, 1% land. This development coincides 100% with the rise of the Pharma industry into the ranks of the military industrial complex.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Years ago I read a blog by an MD from Emory about how the medical profession creates sociopathy in doctors. They found the more specialized the doc, the greater the propensity towards sociopathy.

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Blair's avatar

I don't have a hard time believing this at all.

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Peter GL's avatar

that explains Dr Fauci!!!

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

He’s not so specialized. I think in his case it was inborn.

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nt's avatar

Touché !

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Do you have issues finding the comments that replies are for? I wonder if is just Apple or if everyone has this same frustration?

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Betsy's avatar

Summer of 22 I went for a DEXA scan, in a medical office building. Masks were still required in the building, but I didn't bother until confronted in the office. Sat down with the doc, and he asked if I was vaccinated. When I said no, he left the room and came back wearing a *face shield*. I almost laughed in his face. I guess if I want a follow up, I should go posthaste before they start up with the nonsense again.

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NAB's avatar

That is hysterical. I would have outright laughed at him and thanked him for revealing his level of ignorance. Oh my goodness.

My friend works in ambulatory pre-op and she says they are still required to ask if a patient is vaccinated as the very first question when processing a person. She has asked the manager when they will be able to stop doing so, but so far, they continue to ask.

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WendeAnne's avatar

Find another doctor! That behavior is irredeemable!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I think this whole masking psyops is a great way for us to weed out the imbeciles and run out of their offices 🏃

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Betsy's avatar

That's all I saw him for. My PCP is awesome!

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rolandttg's avatar

When my wife saw for the first and only time an oncologist, he was double masked

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

They practice with that same level of scientific knowledge. I would stay far away from conventional oncology.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Good story Betsy .... what an imbecile

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Roger Beal's avatar

Maybe rent a mock coffin, and have your friends tote you, lying in it, to that doc's waiting room.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’m scheduled for one in October. Better steel myself for confrontation.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Know your enemy. Have a plan. Pray for courage. Then be courageous!

Do not let them bully you. Be prepared to go somewhere else if necessary.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I think that’s what it gets down to. Mask or walk.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ya I get it. Especially in Oregon 😔. When I was there, I didn’t go down without being vocal though. Just letting them know the truth on my way out. 🤷‍♀️

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Martin G's avatar

I had a hip replaced last March in Utah. Nobody mentioned covid or the shot praise the Lord.

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Betsy's avatar

Hopefully your doc will be more enlightened!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’m in Oregon 😏 What are the odds of their being enlightened? 🤣

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Peter GL's avatar

here in FL when you go to the doctor or medical facility they ask if you have been vaccinated or not. No reaction when you say NO. I've even heard someone say under her breath, "that's good".

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Karen Bandy's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻😉

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nt's avatar

Oh my word !! 🤣 Well-put , It’s complete NONSENSE!!!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA still offering covid shots to veterans - signs all over the hospital.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

And they hope veterans get all of the boosters. It's an easy way to save money on retirement pay, disability pay, medical costs, etc. Soon there won't be any backlog at the VA.

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nt's avatar

Craziness!

This just happened last weekend …Oh yes, and they made her wear a mask too !!

If the medical community is still acting this ignorant…

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

What makes you think they’re acting?

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Shelle's avatar

What area of the country?

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nt's avatar

Haha crazy-land Cali, but we are in the Central Valley, farm community- Red.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Is this in FL?

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devoalan's avatar

That would illegal in Florida

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pennsylvania.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Makes sense.

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Michele's avatar

The whole thing STILL boggles my mind.

I learned too much about how people treat each other during the whole scam. I lost a job, lost friends, over my 'status' and LACK OF FEAR.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Sorry but said friend should have declined the covid test. Then if they didn’t proceed to look at the ear infection your friend should’ve walked out and went elsewhere.

I took my daughter for ear infection a few months back and automatically… test for covid test for covid. 👎🏻 I said no she will not be taking any test. They looked surprised that someone stood up to them. But they continued on with the exam. Done!

People…STOP THE STUPID USELESS TESTING! It just fuels their fake fire!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Agree 100%!

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NAB's avatar

STOP. IT. This is crazy.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Three words for you friend (and everyone else): Direct Primary Care. Ditch corporate conglomerate healthcare and return to individually owned and operated family practices. Where they actually CARE about healthcare.

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nt's avatar

Agree !! But So hard to find !!

I lost two excellent docs because they are now doing concierge only, aka boutique doc$ !

I go to a naturopath now who doesn’t take insurance and pay plenty , but not a yearly membership.

The health care system is as bad as the educational system…it’s all broken !! lol 🤣

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I'll take "It Never Happened" for $800, Alex.

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nt's avatar

I felt exactly the same way !!! But shockingly this really happened,

I know it’s hard to believe…

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ItsMeAgain's avatar

I hope she walked away.

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barbara ford's avatar

Very good news that you are feeling better!!! Thanks for your commitment to us who read your every word ! Be well and prosper, Jeff!!

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NAB's avatar

WHO IS STILL TESTING THEMSELVES FOR COVID???!!!

Sigh.

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Alison Smith's avatar

The covidiots.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Exactly!

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Gretchen Joanna's avatar

Many Californians.

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devoalan's avatar

My brother,and the his whole famdamily.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

If you don't test, you don't even know if you have this deadly plague!

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Gretchen Joanna's avatar

And if you do test, you still don't know...

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Sam's avatar

Who is still afraid of the Covid and just getting over another case of it and yet are still waiting for the next jab to come out after they have already gotten up to 5 jabs already that obviously hasn’t kept them from getting infected in the first place?

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2023/8/25/2189725/-New-COVID-strain-BA-2-86-of-particular-concern-more-than-30-mutations

Read the comments. I seriously don’t get it. And since it doesn’t block infection why would anyone get a yearly jab of it?

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Two of my idiot coworkers.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Three of my people here in California, who work for me remotely, test religiously. It is bonkers.

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Jeff C's avatar

Two of the three degenerates Rittenhouse shot turned out to be pedos, what are the odds? That kid ought to head to Vegas. Or maybe given a medal.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

He should take me to the range to teach me.

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daiva's avatar

*That* exemplary level of keeping your flawless cool in the face of patently mortal danger... Hardly teachable I'm afraid 😇

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Jeff C's avatar

Kyle Rittenhouse’s remarkable eye discipline matches that trigger discipline

https://thefunnyconservative.com/kyle-rittenhouses-remarkable-eye-discipline-matches-that-trigger-discipline/

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It was impressive for sure.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I’ve been wondering just what kind of “estate” that guy had?

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bbqbill's avatar

Thirty-seven past due bills, a crack pipe and a computer full of kiddie porn.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

lol!!! It’s like you KNEW him! lol!! 😝

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Dawn B's avatar

Speaking of Rittenhouse... conspiracy analysts have linked him as a young actor/victim in the Shadyhook school shooting AND the SAME 6 yr old pic was also used in another India tragedy as a victim.

This is a show!!!! Not reality...

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

So, your claim is the dead bodies of his attackers were staged? Sounds like trolling to me.

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Dawn B's avatar

Oh and rittenhouse's trial "could" have been staged since there are video green screen bloopers of the trial. I saw them when it was happening and people were watching closely and posting things on it. Just type in "Kyle Rittenhouse Noah" on bitchute and videos will come up but they are banned when you click on them.

Here is one that worked but it's not a good one. https://www.bitchute.com/video/a2uMXbfXShUG/

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Zelkova's avatar

Wow, they do look a lot alike. I'm not saying they're the same person though.

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Dawn B's avatar

I'm not saying it either but there is a good possibility. Look at this pic in India... Noah's pic is on the wall! I have seen it before and just quick searched this one. http://cdn.truthandaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/pozner-fb1.jpg

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Dawn B's avatar

Not about who he shot but who Rittenhouse is... Look up movie We Need to Talk about Sandyhook on Bitchute. I just looked up a link to show you that Rittenhouse is suspected of being Noah Posner from Sandy Hook and all the links were there but when I clicked on them they all were banned. Also that same picture from Sandyhook of Noah was used in India in another tragedy. He's a suspected crisis actor.

IDK what to think.

I live in the district of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting and two people who lost a loved one are now on the school board and the ones who locked us down and defied desantis. Just weird.

I'm not saying any of this didn't happen but I'm saying that it could be planned to take our guns and harm our children.

I won't underestimate what they would do considering the CDC is still pushing the jabs and the WHO wants control of the world's health decisions.

We're not getting the truth is the point.

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daiva's avatar

Both 😊 And then some.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

With Trump perhaps being one of the most photographed men in recent history, there’s no doubt the only purpose of a mug shot was “an act of humility” specifically meant to humiliate him.

I hope this all backfires eventually.

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AngelaK's avatar

It breaks my heart for him *and his family* because sometimes loved ones hurt more than the actual targetted person.

I especially feel for Barron at such a young impressionable age, and for Melania. (So much for the lunatic rantings all over social and other media that she was going to leave him as soon as he was out of office!)

He should have gone after Hillary like he said he would. He didn't, he instead took the high road saying "they are good people" and the NOT good people that they all are, did it to him instead.

Over the past years I realize that he is genuine. He cares about people, not just rich people. (He never liked high society like Ivana did..I remember reading that back in the day).

We should pray for Trump as much now as when Christians were praying for him to become President in 2016.

Praying today for a Divine veil of protection around him. 🙏 🙏🙏

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m praying with you, AngelaK, for President Trump and their entire family. If he wasn’t a threat to their globalist power and their agenda they would just be demeaning and hostile, not an outright witch hunt intended to destroy, bankrupt and silence him. It’s a very sad time in America.

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AngelaK's avatar

Indeed...more prayer needs to be called for now than back then. We are living in dark times of history. If our country's honor and reputation hadn't already been destroyed, the mug shot and indictments sealed the coffin to the world, and the demonic ones either don't care or believe that their empty words will maintain it.

RIP to the country we knew. Dark times....

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GG's avatar

I think he didn't go after Hillary like he said he would because traditionally, one doesn't jail their political rival and it's difficult to get anything done when your entire administration is running around stabbing you in the back.

I don't think there's any doubt he loves this country. After watching the Tucker interview though, I'm concerned what he'll do when he gets back in office. Tucker asked what he would do about the deep state and he refused to answer. Tucker asked a lot of questions Trump refused to answer. The man likes to talk. His silence concerns me.

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AJWinkel's avatar

I hear what you are saying - but also I think you can't show all your cards.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Correct. Maybe if Trump had not announced on his first inauguration day that he was going after corruption, while looking right at The Turtle, he would not have motivated the rich men north of Richmond so quickly to obstruct every action he took.

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RU's avatar

As much a fan of the guy as I've become, I don't think early on he fully understood just how corrupt these people are. He knew they were corrupt. But, willing to tell him one thing and then go do the exact opposite, despite supposedly working for him? Willing to secretly work with his political opponents to undermine his Presidency? Willing to personally attack his family? Willing to rig elections against him? I don't know his motivations, but I am hoping he is deploying a little rope-a-dope strategy. Why go out of your way to attack your opponents when they are destroying themselves nicely in trying to attack you?

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I agree RU. I wasn't a fan, at first. I think one of his faults is he is too trusting, and he gave mortal enemies far too much access to his inner circle. Like me, I will give anyone a chance, until they prove they can't be trusted. But my decisions won't affect an entire world and I don't have millions of families depending on me for their existence. The past three, maybe even the past six years have proven to me how much a blood sport politics has become.

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GG's avatar

See, I've thought too that he is far too trusting, but then I remember that he's a ruthless businessman. Ruthless businessmen aren't trusting. They just aren't. And once I get to that thought, I don't know where to go. I don't know what to think. I really, really like Trump. I think he's the best president in my lifetime. I just keep having these thoughts and questions pop up that I don't know what to do with. I'm thankful that I can come here and voice them without being maligned.

Politics have always been a blood sport. Go back and look at what our Founding Fathers did to each other. Jefferson was a turd (a very smart one, but a turd nonetheless), Hamilton died at the hands of Burr, Adams enacted the Alien and Sedition acts... I seem to remember one member of Congress beating another with his cane on the floor during debate... It has always been a blood sport. I think people were more restrained back then because they had morals and so there was a check on their base instincts, but it's always been brutal.

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AL's avatar

That's the thing. It's my gut that keeps nagging at me with Trump. And I agree that he seems to be the true ONLY possibility out there. But he did a lot of shitty things liked signed the CARES Act and other nefarious executive orders, he refused to pardon Assange, he had to have known the DOD origins of these vaccines even if he did rely stupidly on Brix and Fauci, and then of course, he still praises the vaccines 2 years later. My gut says that despite the words he speaks, he is a bad actor. Part of them all.

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Fred's avatar

I don’t think he should show any cards; just gives the L more ammo.

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GG's avatar

I agree, but he doesn't show any cards. And that's a problem.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I disagree that he doesn’t show any cards. We know who he is.

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GG's avatar

Do we though? Why was he so trusting of so many people? How could a man who has ruthlessly bought and sold property with such success not know that no one is trustworthy?

Even with the mistakes he made, I'm willing to overlook them. I would be more willing to overlook them if he would acknowledge them and let us know how he's going to avoid the same mistakes in the future. If he keeps doing what he did, he'll get the same results. And I think we deserve to know.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I find this to be a most curious attitude about a man who accomplished so much in such a short time while under constant severe attack.

If you don’t like President Trump, if he doesn’t do it the way you want it done, then by all means find yourself another candidate.

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GG's avatar

Ouch, Willing Spirit. Why would you come at me that way? I love Trump but my nature is curious. I ask questions. I think. That brings up more questions. It's hard to keep many of my thoughts straight because I think about and question a lot of things. The community here in C&C has been a great place to come and speak about these things rationally with other curious people.

I realize not everyone is tuned to question things, and some who are tuned are more tuned than others. We all have a valuable perspective to offer, especially as we're like-minded in our love of country and our desperation to save it. You play the part God designed you to play; please don't take offense when I play the part God designed me to play.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It takes all kinds to make a world. And how do we know who we’re actually interacting with on-line? Are they truthful about their motives?

Donald Trump has all the forces of hell arrayed against him at this moment. When people seem to want to add to the load with their questions and concerns about why he did this, and is he sorry for anything he’s done, and does he have plans to do much better next time;the timing just seems rather insensitive and quite odd to me.

It does not seem the actions of people who love and support someone, but rather the opposite.

This is the part I’m playing. I’m calling it out.

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GG's avatar

So you do ask questions! When you see things that you don't think add up, you speak out.

You don't know me, so it's good that you question my motives.

I don't know Trump. I know what I've seen, and most of it, I support 100%. There are things that I've seen that do make me question his motives, who he's getting his advice from and what else is going on in the background.

He is the only president who did what he said he would do with abortion, and to me, that makes him completely different from today's politician. Abortion is the one issue that has been a thorn in my heart; everybody makes promises to our faces while babies are being slaughtered, but behind our backs they talk about what a losing issue it is and they do the opposite of what they promised. Trump had no ideology about abortion when he ran in 2015 and 2016, but his supporters explained why it was important to them, he listened, promised to take action and he kept his word. So for that, he's earned my support. He also moved the embassy to Jerusalem, which is also completely different from today's politician. While looking at the great things he did, I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that he also allowed mandatory medical experimentation and lockdowns. Those are grievous infractions of the freedom promised in our Constitution. I have a responsibility to question why he would allow such violations against the citizens of the country he's serving. So do you. And he really should let us know what happened and how he'll stop something like that from ever happening again.

Asking and expecting concrete answers doesn't make me anti-Trump. I will never follow any person, regardless of their position, prestige or power. I'm done voting for liars and deceivers. I voted for Bush, McCain and Romney. Both parties, with the help of the media, manipulate their voters. I'm tired of being manipulated and the first step to stopping it is by holding people to account.

If that makes me some kind of plant in your eyes, so be it. I know who I am.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

The silence didn’t concern me; why would he give away the game plan?

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GG's avatar

I thought about that too. But he had to be really coaxed to even entertain the idea that Epstein didn't kill himself. The answer he eventually gave would have been great up front. And he refused to answer about hiring Bill Barr. Look, he didn't know Washington coming into it. He does now. How does he avoid another Bill Barr? He should have some answer for that, even without showing all his cards. The opposition is escalating but Trump won't say it he believes the next step will be to kill him and his family. Of course it is! These are dangerous times. He's never been afraid to tell the truth, but now he won't.

My big takeaway from his interview and the Republican debates is that no one is going to save us. To put all our eggs in the Trump basket or any other politician basket is insanity. We are responsible for our own salvation because it's not going to come from the "Top Men." It's just not .

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Linda Sartain's avatar

True, we all need to be in on saving our country, but Trump isn't alone in his efforts. He has the Good guys from the Military, Alphabet agencies, and State Dept behind him. And he has millions of us who back his efforts anyway we can. We're participating is ways we Never thought we would.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I disagree Linda Sartain, I trust no three letter agency. The destruction of the military began under obama and completed under biden. No one is coming to save us, we the people must be prepared to save our country or live as slaves. If Trump is destined to be a part of the peoples battle then God bless and protect him. I see no one else in the wings to do so.

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AL's avatar

100%. The Q story that keeps telling people that he is still president and has these white hats in the military seems ludicrous to me. We aren't dealing with a handful of idiots who devised a plot to kill us all. We are dealing with a centuries old cartel that has only gotten richer with time and has captured all intelligence agencies and their militaries. Their plans aren't new and no one gets through their gate--no one. Those that try and make it past the first line are killed. Which begs the question as to why Trump is still alive and thriving in the media. Food for thought.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

If you’re suggesting that President Trump is part of the cartel I think you’re dead wrong. Why would he leave a wonderful life to put up with the abuse he and his family have endured since the day he announced he was running for president of the United Stares? Obama was definitely placed in office despite his lack of competence, notoriety or experience. In addition he wasn’t a US citizen. That’s where you need to put your efforts and your speculations; he was propped up, bought off and has a ton of dirt you can dig up. Same with the Clintons, the Bush family, the Kennedy family, Dick Cheney and Romney.

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AL's avatar

Well you can think what you like. I didn’t quite say that— because unlike you, I am ALWAYS keeping an open mind. If you think you know who all the good guys and bad guys are, you’re too naive to even be in this conversation.

“Dumb bureaucrats botching things” is always their excuse. "But he didn’t know! Poor guy, he was tricked!" You really believe he just stumbled onto the PRESIDENCY by accident? The cartel was sleeping on election night? The idea is straight out of the movies.

Why would he give up the good life? All of these satantic souls had rich, good lives. Because they were summoned to do this and given every accolade that comes with the grift. Putting up with the “abuse” -which— if I’m right--- is all fake anyway! Is just part of the job. That part’s a no-brainer.

Take it easy. Listen more and talk less. If you really want to know (ie risk your dreams being shattered) you’ll deep dive it and consider what the critics say.

I do know one thing. Trump has not been out of the “news” for a single day since he started running in 2015. The state-controlled media loves him. If they didn’t want him in, no one would ever hear about him. And you know it.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

It’s so rare to receive such a rude, condescending response on C&C so I’ll just refrain from trying to continue this discussion with you. I hope you have a nice evening.

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GG's avatar

I think it's good to ask questions like "Why have they allowed Trump to live?" Is it because he's one of them? Is it because they're too afraid to outright murder him (Killary has been doing this for decades, so I find that hard to swallow)? Is it because they can use him to further divide us? We need to ask these questions and divine the answers because that tells us what actions we need to take.

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AL's avatar

Thank you. That’s all I’m saying-keep and open mind and ask questions. I can’t help but think if they wanted him dead, he surely would be. This hero worship is for the birds regardless.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lol, when you said "alphabet agencies" I initially thought you meant the alphabet soup groups of lgbtq++++++!!!

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GG's avatar

Are there any good guys in the military, alphabet agencies and state department? Supposedly Pompeo has said our State Department does not hold to American ideals of democracy. That's pretty frightening. I think it's extremely concerning when you can't trust anyone. The only thing that gives me any comfort is knowing how incredibly incompetent most of the people who run things are.

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AL's avatar

I do not think the banking/elitist cartel is incompetent. I think they've had most of this mapped out for years.

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Peter GL's avatar

agree, but we still need to retire the current politicians

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GG's avatar

That's part of this "saving ourselves" I keep talking about.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Non-the-less…

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RU's avatar

Trump was unusually tight lipped in that interview. I'm hoping it's a rope-a-dope strategy. He knows what he's up against now. In 2016, I'm not sure he fully understood the level of corruption, depravity, and frankly, evil that exists in the federal government. Maybe not even until 2020 when he saw the lengths they'd go to to undermine him. Probably a lot of liars surrounding him during his term, telling him one thing while secretly doing the opposite. He's more aware now.

Also...can't say I've ever heard an interviewer ask a former President and current frontrunner for the Presidency whether they are worried their political opponents are going to kill them. How does one respond to that? Seems to me the point is more in asking the question than it is in the answer to it. Meaning, my guess is that this entire interview was a play by Tucker and Trump to get the questions/ideas in front of people. To move the Overton window just a bit.

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GG's avatar

Perhaps you've never heard an interviewer ask a former President and current frontrunner for the Presidency whether they are worried their political opponents are going to kill them because you weren't alive when the Bolsheviks took over Russia. But they will escalate this to the point where they kill him. If Trump doesn't recognize that, that's a huge red flag. How can he be effective when he doesn't know what is at stake? And the response should have been something along the lines of, "Yes, I'm aware. That's why this election is so important. Not just for me, but for anyone who agrees with even 1% of what I'm saying. Because once they've killed me, they'll come after you. And who will you call on then?"

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RU's avatar

Yes, I mean in the West. Specifically in the US. It's kind of new ground for us. A new low.

That interview is now the most watched interview in world history. It has to be striking to a lot of people to hear that question asked. I'm suggesting that's the point of asking it. He did acknowledge it was a legit risk and said he was dealing with sick people. Maybe he and Tucker are letting people connect the dots themselves, which is way more effective than telling them how to think about it. TBH, I don't think any of us know what the right words are in that situation. Side note: the mug shot seems to have brought a lot of pain to conservative folks. From my perspective, it's a win. Their desperation and depravity is on full display for all to see. Trump is playing it well. He's both winning and gaining ground. And it won't be the last we hear from him on any of this.

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AL's avatar

That's the best case scenario. I hope too.

But I am keeping an open mind that he is just another one of them. I feel the desperation and helplessness too, but I won't be lazy in my thinking.

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RU's avatar

LOL. First time in my life that anyone has accused me of being lazy in my thinking. LOL.

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GG's avatar

I didn't take AL's comment to say that you are lazy in your thinking. My interpretation is that they feel desperate and hopeless, so they'll try to think clearly. I do think it would be so easy to look at this situation and despair. But we mustn't do that.

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AL's avatar

Nobody called you anything. Grow up.

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RU's avatar

I'm sorry, but it seemed implied in your comment that anyone supporting Trump was being intellectually lazy. Apologies if I misunderstood your intent. No need to add the "grow up" attack to it.

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AL's avatar

I think it was pretty clear I was referring to myself. People who take clearly unintended offense and make it personal are annoying.

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RU's avatar

Well, I apologized for the misunderstanding. What is clear to the one is not always clear to all.

It is difficult to judge intent in a forum like this. No need to escalate. I'm not here to make enemies.

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AL's avatar

Nor am I. I am sorry you felt attacked.

I was not even responding to you--I was responding to "GG" so your response seemed gratuitous to me at the time. I am sorry too. Not enemies--we're all just all trying to figure this thing ---with a monster head---out.

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Donna B's avatar

He did say that he now knows the players in Washington which he didn’t when he was in office. I have no doubt he plans to clean house.

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daverkb's avatar

I share the same sense of things, but it's difficult to pin down as to why. But if I were to guess, it is because we are no in ordinary times, whatever that means. Everything is in state of confluence with the indictments. Everything going forward hinges on the outcome here. To paraphrase Hamlet, "To be a totalitarian banana republic, or to not be. That is the question."

To get into the other 'issues', no matter how important, is to water down the laser like focus on the one thing that makes or breaks. I believe that Tucker understands this well, and that was primarily why the entire interview was basically a softball field event. That is, one does not beat down and smash one's champion at the moment before he goes to slay the dragon.

Maybe that's it.

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CaplT's avatar

Tucker asked a lot of questions and didn’t let Trump fully answer including Trump had started to name the things he would do when back in office but TC only let Trump say restore / build the border wall.

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GG's avatar

My impression of the interview was different. Tucker would ask a question, Trump would go completely off point, Tucker would try to bring it back and Trump would go off point. He started the interview with a stack of papers in his hand, presumably topics and questions to go over. There's a point in the interview where he tosses them on the table. To me, at that moment, Tucker realized he wasn't going to get anything out of Trump and he gave up.

Tucker asked repeatedly about Bill Barr, and Trump said he did an awful job (true) but that was about it. How will you avoid hiring more Barrs in the future? Who knows. Did Epstein kill himself? Who knows. There was no promise of transparency when he retakes the White House. Would it be showing all his cards to say "I'll make sure the records are released"?

When Tucker asked him about escalation and are they going to try to kill him next, that would have been the perfect time to discuss the dire predicament the country finds itself in. Yes, they'll kill him if they have the means and opportunity (and they're not above creating the means and opportunity they require.) And they'll kill you, and me, and anyone else who gets in their way. It also would have been the perfect time to state that if that's the case, so be it, he'll die trying to preserve and protect his country. I just thought the interview was very disappointing with lots of missed opportunities.

No one is going to save us.

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AngelaK's avatar

Perhaps being tight lipped was because of his lawyer's warnings?Let's not forget that this isnt just any interview! He is under indictments.

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AL's avatar

I am also concerned. The interview seemed a little babbling. Friends say he is sending messages (for instance about water when he was talking about showerheads) but I found most of what he said equivocal.

My big fear is that he is just another cog in their wheel whose sole job it is to capture the center and right and gain their trust. It shouldn't shock anyone--we constantly underestimate the power of this cartel and their ability to create whatever reality for us that they want.

Trump continues to be in hot water, yet nothing really happens to him. But wow is it major theater for the masses on both sides of the fence. You couldn't create a better psy-op than this.

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GG's avatar

I think it's good that you think like that. We MUST question EVERYTHING. Trust no one.

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WP William's avatar

Trump more than anything else is the lightening rod that keeps the Leftist base agitated, motivated, pushing and willing to join in destroying societal norms, clamoring for punishing and silencing opponents, conforming to Corporate-Gvt. partnerships lauding science and experts making rules (decrees) and eliminating supposed checks and balances in gvt. The way the fake news media uses everything Trump to maintain the daily indoctrination-propaganda machine running in overdrive since 2015 is amazing. He's truly a tool for them, meanwhile he's placed on a pedestal by many on the Right mostly due to the fact that all others who've been raised up near to presidential stature are so very weak and timid in their responses to the Left, the Media, the Swamp-State. The timing of Trump to counter Hillary appears perfect, perhaps he wasn't a plant and shoe-in to win in 2016 but he was never a real threat only a speed bump or minor detour to the Cartel, but also a great opportunity for them to exploit in many ways. We keep re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic and squabbling about placement but the Cartel keeps on sinking the vessel. He's fully fractured the Rep. Party (that's not hard to do and they're do-nothings for most part even when in power), rather than truly working to rally Americans to defend Freedom and fight the Cartel, seemingly he'd rather grandstand the role of being the go-to vocal victim and advocate for all who decry the fall of America and the West.

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AL's avatar

Thanks--I love your take. So are you saying you think he's the real deal but will never be enough (even if he did a better job?) Or do you think he is part of the system being used to motivate the left and appease the right?

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WP William's avatar

I simply haven't decided on that for some reason. Quite the puzzle since he first announced and glided down the golden escalator...he brashly destroyed Jeb Bush and the others in 2015, gained the base easily by his populist Americanism messaging and the prize fighter attitude against the media and Hillary, and eventually even won a begrudging Ted Cruz over. The established GOP was never openly won over and they mostly knifed him in the back and continue to disparage all his faults and failings and distance themselves from crying foul over the 2020 elections. They didn't slam his big spending anti-fiscally conservative ways (which is now basically a vanquished tenant of the GOP) and allowed MAGA to sweep the GOP agenda even while they opposed much of it. Odd how the idealism and positions of Left and Right have flipped in various ways--the Left are now firmly the establishment and elitists who vanguard the poor and downtrodden (not from themselves of course) from systemic institutionalized original sin of slavery American selfish Capitalism embodied by Trump and the Radical Religious Right and White Nationalists. I'm inclined to say he's a plant or a patsy of sorts since he never quite makes a firm aggressive resolve to war with his stated avowed enemies but rather allows himself to be used as a pinata that is repeatedly bashed and bent but never quite broken or torn and always pleading for more $$$ and support from the base that he may defend us. A Hillary presidency would likely have United the Rightist factions and purged the Democratic sympathizers from the GOP. The Trump phenomenon has United the Left and fractured the Right ever more severely and allowed the complicit Republicans to often re-emerge with "i told you so" criticism or even to thrive as bi-partisan eunuchs for advancing Progressivism. TRUMP II the Return must be written as a truly inclusive Populist anti-Swamp Purge of Marxist-Elitists by We The People or it would be a dismal 4 years(?) of failure with augmented attacks and erosion of society excused by the "do anything to oppose Trump and MAGA-Nazis" push fomented by the DeepState and their owned Media and Academia and Corporate and foreign Allies. I pray that I'm wrong about it ALL and that he's the best catalyst to flush out the worst of his and America's opponents, but his performance and the 8 years of profound Progressivist pushback to date make me question if he's simply a billionaire reality tv star playing the role of a lifetime.

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AL's avatar

Yes, you know when I do the list of evidence that he is a player vs. the real deal, it is a little lop-sided in favor of him being a plant, especially because some points are just not negotiable (like vaccines which he "loves') and even the good part fits right into the same tired old psy-op- a lot of inciting rhetoric and not much else. And I think the Republicans hate him because they aren't really republicans! The deep state holding our intelligence, military and agencies hostage has been infiltrating government all over the world at every level, city, state and national and the house and senate are no exceptions.

I think perhaps the genuineness that you describe in the first part of your response is persuasive, but I can easily see how those working on this could have created the perfect character--it was so obvious what was missing. Trump was a long time friend of the Clintons and even took out at least one large loan from Soros (I think 2010), but he's going to drain them from the swamp?

As you say, he "allow[ed] himself to be used as a pinata that is repeatedly bashed and bent but never quite broken or torn and always pleading for more $$$ and support from the base that he may defend us." This has also been a familiar theme throughout my lifetime--that you think you've finally got someone great who is going to do amazing things. And 4 years, or 8 years! goes by and nothing really happens. Nothing. Even that wall never happened and that was his thing. Endlessly equivocal. The same old song and dance. (And what has really happened is more quiet, unreported changes to federal law by executive order, little by little, where it will really hurt us in the future--as if they know what is happening 10-20 years from now--I believe they do because they are directing it).

I'm not a party person--my brain does not work that way. I'd vote for anyone I liked, but honestly, I do not think such a candidate will ever appear, much less make it that far. What has been going on will continue to go on. The only thing that changes is that more people become aware of it. But at some point, even that won't matter anymore.

As for Trump, I haven't completely decided either, but my gut tells me we are being played.

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AngelaK's avatar

Interesting. I haven't seen the interview yet. Is it on Twitter?

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S.P.H.'s avatar

C&C linked to it yesterday or the day before AngelaK I also have not had time to listen, and I want to give the interview my full attention.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I agree. I'm waiting to see if this changes after the nomination. At that point, he should come out roaring. My hope is he is just trying not to antagonize the Party too much before the Convention.

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GG's avatar

They won't lessen their efforts against him if he gets the nomination. They're not going to stop until he is dead. Why not roar now?

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AngelaK's avatar

He is hoping therefore not roaring..also doesn't want to go to prison. (we all know that anything can be expected from the corrupt left)..

Prayer, imho, can protect him from physical harm, because again, I don't put anything passed them. He is up against evil hearts but also satan and demon invoking and occult practicing people, so it is as much a spiritual battle against him as a political battle.

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RU's avatar

I hope so as well.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes Trump did not pursue the illegal server and “charity fund raising” Hillary had because he wanted to move on so the “country could heal”.

I felt like it was the best decision because otherwise he would be blamed for political prosecution of opposition. Exactly what they are now doing to him.

It a no win either way.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

As far as I know....

A President has very little authority deciding who gets investigated for what.

Consider the possibility -- well-supported by many bits of evidence, I'd argue -- that the entire Federal government is compromised, rotten to the core. The system is certainly not going to abolish itself or allow anything to diminish its powers. Anyone who dares probably already has a "file" of compromising data available to show him, off the record of course. Anyone viewed as potential opposition will be (in decreasing order of preference, likely) won over ideologically, sidelined or ignored, bribed, persecuted, jailed or killed. I've no idea how this ends other than "badly."

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Fred's avatar

“ A President has very little authority deciding who gets investigated for what.” Doesn’t seem like it to me.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Now repeat your description of our federal government next some twit demands "term limits". Expecting career criminals to vote limitations on their own incomes is beyond dumb.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

I’m so disgusted by this line thinking. You can never have honest government unless you prosecute those who abuse power to the utmost extent. We need a zero tolerance for corruption, regardless of which part of the uniparty commits the acts.

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Alison Smith's avatar

I think the prosecutions are coming- all of the democrats/RINOs current and former will be held accountable for what they have done for the last 50 years.

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AngelaK's avatar

When you take the high road with evil, it may save your soul, but in such a position, doesn’t save the country. Apparently Soros money has finally bought and secured all the compromised and evil political souls for the great ideological agenda of the new world order. I feel like we are living in a Bond movie from the 60s and 70s! You know...Dr. Evil and his megalomaniac delusional visions type of villains.

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daiva's avatar

🗨 Judo (Japanese for “the gentle way”) emphasizes winning in combat by using your opponent's weight and strength as weapons against him, while preserving your own mental and physical energy.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

All good in theory and perhaps in sport where everyone plays by the rules. But as one of my smart-ass friends in high school observed, "The slowest gun in the West beats the fastest hands in the East."

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daiva's avatar

There're more ways of reading beyond literal 😏 The principle holds across many a field, politics among not the least fertile.

ETA 'Member Reagan about Mondale? 🤸 --> youtu.be/x4aUBbQeoHA?feature=shared&t=72

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Heather Hutton's avatar

Surprise, surprise... a Google search for the exact name of the article mentioned above didn't come up with the actual article. The only applicable result was a podcast interview the author did. Luckily, that sent me to the article. Sharing here incase anyone else is interested https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Well that’s what you get for using Google. You should know better by now. I searched DuckDuckGo and it came right up.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

One of the first hits on Brave :). Downloaded and sent to everyone I know.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Same here. I had no problem getting the article. 🦋

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NAB's avatar

Read this piece back in March and it is well-worth the time especially if you are trying to do more long-form reading and deep thinking (I've been trying to do more of both because Twitter - or X - has made me stupid and lazy.

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Roger Beal's avatar

There has been a very informative series on The Last Refuge blog (a/k/a Conservative Treehouse) about the same topic. Search that website for "Jack's Magic Coffee Shop" to learn about the letter agency/public social media data mining operation.

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Ken Peterson's avatar

Thank you very much as I was having the same frustration!

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Gary T's avatar

Jeff, I like all the latest updates on the insanity but I get concerned when I read your quotes like this "Biden’s probably not laughing so hard now." What?!?!? He and every libtard have been gleefully laughing at you(us) for 3 years. They will continue to laugh next year when they 'win' the elections. They will continue to laugh as you(we) sit around and watch as the world collapses into woke insanity and we read day after day about all the laws they break, conservatives being unjustly punished and criminals, from illegal aliens to child molesters, get to do whatever they want while collecting tax dollars.

All we ever hear about is them being "exposed" and nothing happens, you don't think that makes them laugh?

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Stariel291's avatar

I love C&C and appreciate the snark and wit more than ever. But.

I agree...reluctantly. I want to see a way out of this but these evil globalists know exactly what they are doing. I don’t see this as a super slow awakening and changing of the guard nearly as much as I see it as them making it clear we are all prisoners under evil, corrupt guard - no matter how absurd and open they are about it. Biden is a useful idiot. More and more I think they have each step planned to the nth degree.

Don’t hate on me. I don’t want it to be true. But what point is there in pretending otherwise? Actual best news: God already won. In the end we answer only to Him. Hebrews 13:6

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Gary T's avatar

I think C&C is great too! It's the only thing about the insanity I read regularly. I have been thinking and hearing "the tide is turning" since late 2021. No tide has turned. The tidal tsunami is still headed inland while grinding up and drowning human life in the churning rubble.

I am as eager to see the displays of stupidity as much as anyone that reads C&C, the thing I have been looking for is what can be done? I used to hear 2nd amendment type stuff, that is of course not going to work. They are just picking off anyone that leans that way one-by-one with 4am raids.

Relying on the legal system has shown itself to be silly, how'd that work out for Kari Lake? Why aren't there zillions of cases of infringement of rights, false imprisonment, violations of 1st amendment, or anything else? Why isn't the supreme court expediting appealed cases that will restore any sense of sanity? Oh, right, because enforcement of laws is made up on a daily basis and it only goes one way theses days, so there are no cases that make it far enough to be appealed, the 'legal system' has discarded them way early on, probably because some 'judge' was more worried about being 'hated on' than setting a course for sanity.

The fact that you are afraid of being 'hated on' too, especially by people the read C&C seems like the problem to me. Some people claim the insanity is because stupid people are afraid of covid. I think the reality is that almost all humans are more afraid of being 'hated on' and excluded from the group and create reality accordingly.

Since one side is willing to kill for their beliefs and other side isn't even willing to speak up, let alone die, for theirs, tells us all how this is going to proceed.

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daverkb's avatar

Actually, one wins every time one stands up for Truth. For example, and thanks to Kari Lake, the Fake Governor can't hide the election fraud crime. It's out in the open.

And thanks to Trump, including the 2020 election plus the indictments, countries around the world see what we are.

To defeat the Terror State the Terror State has to be first exposed, then ridiculed and then dismantled. And thanks to the Clownish Incompetency of the Dear Leader ruling class, we are far down this road.

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Gary T's avatar

I don't think I see the past few years the same as you. I think we are a little past principle'. - The way it looks to me is that they cheated in 2020 and got away with it. No conservative resistance other than Jan 6, which was a great opportunity to show everyone that one side has lost the right to speak and will be unconstitutionally suppressed. after all, they didn't do anything to the rioters and looters from the 8 months prior to Jan 6. Then in 2022, the people of a AZ knew they were going to try and cheat so they prepared, the cheating happened anyway. Kari Lake was prepared, she showed in court that they cheated, the courts didn't care, 'election denial' from one side is not allowed, so Hobbs is AZ Gov. Even the majority of Dems voters in AZ agree Lake actually won but they think the courts taking Hobbs side is justified anyway, sort of like the electoral college in FED elections actually deciding who wins because if a conservative wins the voters must ne stupid.

When they openly cheat again in 2024, what can be done? What other country cares? Every other 'western' country is more corrupt than us, and most them actually do have a majority of people that wanted the cheating in 2020and 2022 anyway. The only other country that seems to comment on the corruption of our elections is Russia. I don't think Russia is planning on liberating us any time soon.

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daverkb's avatar

Hi Gary! I agree with what you are saying.

First, Russia speaking out is big because Russia is saying out loud what the entire rest of the world is seeing and thinking. Russia can do this because Russia no longer has anything to lose having been sanctioned out of any and all trade with the Five Eyes Collective West. And the rest of the world loves hearing Russia speak out.

The Strangeness is this: superficially 'they' got away with election cheating. What is different with 2020 is the rest of world world now knows what they did. What they continue to do. And the genii is out of the bottle and cannot be stuffed back in. The rest of the world see all the fraud, corruption, the war mongering ... and they are just 'leaving the room' so to speak because for the first time they can.

'They' have taken everything from us ... and we are dispossessed. Completely dispossessed except for vestiges. And only we can save ourselves. Nobody else is going to do this for us.

We are at the critical point. Nobody knows what is going to happen next.

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Gary T's avatar

May I predict what will happen next, and then after that? The same that is happening now. The policies of the WHO and WEF will become your daily reality and nobody will do anything.

Have you ever seen the video of Sadam Hussein purging his room of 'leaders' and no one did anything, that was well over 20 years ago and the only thing that stopped Sadam was the US invading and destroying the entire country instead of just for the 80% of the Shiite majority, ruled by the small minority of Sunnis, of which Saadam belonged. Being liberated by Russia doesn't sound like a great option.

Did you see the more recent purging of dissent in China when Hu Jin Tao was publicly led out of a leadership meeting and never heard from again? I'm guessing he's not lounging on a beach somewhere.

The Tyrants in western 'democracies' have certainly seen both of those things and have been emboldened by them, especially after nothing happened after what was done to Jan 6 protestors with ZERO repercussions. How about indicting and jailing of Trump and anyone else they want? Nothing will happen there either. In a few years "democracy' and 'freedom' will be taught in schools as a silly historical phase that needed to go away in place of worship for the policies of compliance and servitude. "you will own nothing and be happy".

Actually, I say it has already happened. Consider this - We know that whatever they are accusing Trump of, they are already doing or have done. Now consider the daily babble on MSM about how democracy will be lost if Trump is ever president again, it clearly means that democracy has already been lost, to 'them'.

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daverkb's avatar

Well, we will have to wait and see.

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Stariel291's avatar

Yes. Agree on every single point. I only read C&C and The Loop daily. Can’t stomach anything else.

And you’re right - I almost didn’t post because I see so-called “patriots” and “truthers” turning on each other every day if anyone disagrees on any single point. The ever-essential ingredient of division is one the globalists have seasoned society with perfectly. As for that tide turning, I just don’t see it - and I may not be an optimist but I’m certainly not a pessimist by nature. I only see “wins” they allow us to have to keep us plodding along. And here we are - 2023 winding down and Biden’s handlers are firmly in control by all rational standards. Perhaps I’m just impatient.

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Gary T's avatar

You are writing what I am thinking. Brings me tears, not quite joyfully, more in commiseration. There is no use fighting against tyranny as just one person, they have the loners under control, the fight against tyranny needs cohesive support, unfortunately I see the same as you, fighters being excluded because there isn't 110% agreement. Can we say 75% agreement is enough to fight for the same team?

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Stariel291's avatar

Again - agree completely. A few key points that have brought me here: 1. Stolen 2020 election with loads of proof and zero repercussions for corrupt perps 2. Treatment of J6 peaceful protestors (certainly so in comparison to the Summer of Love) 3. Support of Ukraine War (aka money laundering) in comparison to pitiful “support” for Lahaina residents 4. US citizen has paid into SS gets maybe $1400/month from system while non-citizens who’ve never paid in get $2200/mo. I could go on and on. We are broken in every single way. The videos about how to destroy the US by infiltrating all institutions over time would suggest we’re right, Gary. We can continue to scrap and spar and land an occasional jab when they allow us to, but the KO is already in the books. I actually can’t wait for all of their everyday useful idiots to realize how they’ve been had. That will be interesting.

I have to reiterate though. I’m not despairing. Worldly success and comfort and crap (frankly) are not my gods. God is my hope and my salvation; therefore I will not fear. In the meantime I’ll enjoy my C&C and my little pleasures in life. But I do believe the credits are already rolling on the Great American Experiment.

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Gary T's avatar

I like the way you think. Including Ukraine and Lahina in there exemplifies a fuller extent of the loss of our country. You are the only person I have heard from that agrees that KO is in the books, it seems like so many think if we just expose 'them' one more time, that will do it. I hear it from right wing news all the time, something like "Biden has crossed the line".... Really? What is anyone going to do about it? Right, nothing. Many Dems know the voting results are rigged, they like it. I suppose for people that live in FL things don't look so bad yet, but I don't think FL can survive for very long like that, I believe they have Dominion voting machines too.

I need to work on my ability to accept it. Waiting till I'm dead for any solace isn't sitting well with me yet.

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Stariel291's avatar

My faith is what helps me accept it without despairing. But it took me a while to get there. When I start to feel unsettled about what happens between now and when I meet my Maker, that’s when I come across someone like you who thinks similarly; it does help because it can be lonely to think things are on an irreversible course. And of course C&C helps me stay sane too.

Curious your thoughts on Trump...I used to really be a fan - even went to a rally and was truly inspired at the time. I still appreciate that he’s not a career politician, but I can’t get over the jab push. Bragging about Operation Warp Speed seems like a huge tell to me. Those shots are killing people. Something isn’t right there.

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Gary T's avatar

Good morning Stariel! I slept a little better last night after our exchange. I agree that C&C has been good for maintaining my sanity. Finding like minded people was hard in the early days of the Biden tyranny, it's still hard to find people that seem to be connecting more of the dots and seeing the breadth/depth of what has happened, as I said earlier, I think you are the only one I have met. Many of the people that I think feel similarly often seem far too optimistic about "the turning tide" or "we had a win" type of stuff. It feels like they don't care as much about the tyranny as they are concerned about how others will negatively judge them for saying something critical of the tyrants that are threatening their existence with No-Vax jails or denial of healthcare or even mandating the death shot at all, but they will savage a person that is trying to save them and the rest of us from the tyranny because they think it was done in a mean way or something else trite. It discourages me and makes me want to move to BFE. I am of the opinion that it's the spineless weenies that are supposed to be on my side that are the main threat to me because I am not careful enough to avoid their spinelessness and may end up needing their help. Did you see the movie Private Ryan? Did you see the part where Tom Hank's team picked up another American soldier in their group and were willing to risk their lives to defend him from the enemy, but when the fellow American soldier needed the soy boy because he was about to be stabbed, the spineless weenie quivered and probably shit himself while watching his fellow soldier get killed right in front of him. I know one of the points of the movie was to show that the soy boy lived and the soldiers that actually saved private Ryan did not, but I didn't take that moral as intended. The moral of that story to me is the same as the moral of the story today, tolerance is what gets oneself eliminated. The lesson I learned from the movie and the past three years is that the spineless should not be trusted and certainly never put in a place of decision making for my future, and when things get bad, maybe consider getting rid of them before their lack of action leads to them allowing or participating in the elimination of me. I know you didn't ask about that, but a little background may help my Trump answer. The world is complicated, as least I think so.

As for how I feel about Trump - I don't feel like I need a leader, I feel like I need 'leadership' to allow me to make my own decisions and allow anyone to say whatever they want(but not trannies to kids) so I can use the information to make my decisions. I feel like Trump did that for the most part, although I don't think I would want to meet him in person or share dinner with him or anything like that because he seems to be an unlikable person. So, I don't think I like him personally but I like him fighting for my rights and I would vote for him or defend him in battle for those traits. The complicated part is that I think the vax insanity is the equal to the top things threatening me right now(digital currency being another) and I am just stunned when I hear Trump defend the vax. Maybe, in the beginning, he didn't have the same reasons to be skeptical of the pharma industry as me, I worked for those criminals for years watching how they endangered lives for profit and wrongly saying the benefits outweigh the risks, but there is no excuse now. I keep thinking if he is the great great tactician that people keep saying he is he would say he duped and go after Fauci like any sane person should, but he apparently isn't a politician and says what he believes. I think what he believes has or is currently killing millions, but I suppose as long as its not forced on others by requiring it for work, school, or going to the grocery store, people can inject themselves with whatever they want. I actually encourage most people to get a booster, especially if they are frightened weenies that wear masks. They are like the soy boy in Private Ryan, I see no reason to defend them, let their decisions be there demise, unlike the way the movie played out.

I'm guessing that's more than you wanted to read, but as I said, to me its complicated and that was my short version of the answer!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I tried to watch the Tucker Carlson interview.

But I only got to the part (5 minutes in?) where Trump called DeSantis "DeSanctimonious" and I was out. Turned it off.

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Stariel291's avatar

Yes, it’s embarrassing when he calls people stupid names like a child. But a part of me thinks he does it just to drive them nuts - the establishment isn’t used to being messed with on the most basic level. It’s like he’s taking the low road because where has it gotten us to be politically correct and mature about things? Why not try stooping and see where it gets us? Still, although I get that he might just be the very definition of a troll, I find it to be so unappealing. I didn’t watch the RINO debate or the interview. Can’t stomach any of it.

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NAB's avatar

And let's be honest, the only thing Joe is laughing about is his choice of ice cream. The audacity of that man continuing to "occupy" the Oval Office and present himself as a sentient human being in full control of his faculties is nauseating. Joe isn't deciding anything. "They lie to us. We know they are lying. They know, we know they are lying. And still they lie to us and we keep on pretending to believe them." Quote applied to both parties.

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Gary T's avatar

I agree with all the lying. What can be done? Voting doesn't seem to help.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Unfortunately, I agree too. I think we do see things happening but we are so far behind the 8 ball any step in the right direction and we get hit again and end up right back behind that 8 ball. They are laughing at us. Bidens stupid tweet about Hawaii says it all- “laser-focused” on getting them help. Ya, right. Laser-focused as in, his way of admitting they used DEW without actually saying it and knowing the masses won’t even entertain the idea they could something so intentionally dastardly. Brainwashed people can not fathom the evil behind those doing the dirty deeds. Too hard. Cognitive dissonance is required to survive.

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Peter GL's avatar

you mean "steal the elections again"?

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Gary T's avatar

Yes, but they have me afraid of being a Trump co-conspirator if I use real words. I was not a Trump fan, he's the one that rammed the death vax through and still hasn't realized his mistake. It was a bad mistake! But now that I see what they are trying to do to him I will vote for him if it's Biden v Trump. I actually think RFK is the best choice for draining the swamp, but not real excited about him either. I feel unrepresented.

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WIMomof3's avatar

RFKs positives do not negate his negatives. 👎

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Gary T's avatar

I'm not sure what his negatives are considered to be, but I haven't felt like anyone represents me fully for years anyway. I don't agree with everything he says, but I am thinking 75% agreement is going to have to good enough for me these days. I don't know how to measure that, but recognition that Fauci is a criminal is a good start. Having the current Dem establishment terrified of him seems like a good trait too. I don't like his past environmental extremism, but he seems to have toned down the climate crap, what else shouldn't I like?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I humbly disagree. I live in a deep blue city in a deep blue county in the deep now-blue state of Colorado. Many of my liberal friends are scratching their heads and reconsidering their position on pronouns, gender “affirmation”, parental rights, sexualization of curriculum, Covid jabs, reliability of the media, etc. We still have a long way to go, but we’ve come a long way.

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WP William's avatar

WE are the partisan resistance in ColoAzulo, out Commie the Democratic voters who are so very "educated"--proclaim that housing crisis will be best and most immediately solved by Eminent Domain as soon as a person turns 62 they get free gvt housing at senior community and can semi-retire. The State takes the property, Greens it up, then rents it out in a very DEI manner to a younger person/family group. All excess property ownership must pay additional taxes/fees/off-sets to the State. The wealthy Dems choke when they get a reality check like that most often--the REALITY of OWNING NOTHING and bending the knee to the MAN is a gut-check

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Gary T's avatar

Hi Nard, fellow Coloradoan. When you say "come along way", is there any chance that means they went a long way and are now wondering why? It's not like any of this gender crap was even a thing just a few years ago. I would say the fact that your friends are questioning their position now seems a bit delayed, but how do did they get way down there anyway? Someone told them how to think and out of fear of judgement they went along.

I think the fact they voted that stuff into existence is a serious problem in the first place, why don't they ask their leaders for change? Anticipating that their changing minds will alter the way they vote next time is not realistic. Obviously they are people that need to be told what to do/think and that will not change. They will not change the party they voted for, they might quietly(because they fear judgment) wish the libtard they voted for for would change their mind but libtards don't have the ability to recognize a bad idea or a good one, they just do what they are told by people that say "Free-dumb" is bad because they are afraid. People that need to be told what to do hate freedom, they will tolerate tyranny from their oppressors like a stupidly loyal dog, oppressors feed them.

The people I want to vote for say "think for yourself", libtard parasites are terrified of being responsible for their own decisions because they are afraid they will end up destitute, they want authority to enforce tyranny, not end it. Additionally, nearly all humans, not just parasites, will trade winning to see their enemies loose. Someone said it's Colo-azul now, that is what I see.

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Peter GL's avatar

How many shares of vaccine makers does Mr. Shanmugaratnam own, and when did he make the investment?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same question.

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WP William's avatar

I'm sure he stands against Bioweapon Labs that are being discovered by Code Enforcement of small towns and villages around the globe too right?

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Freebird's avatar

Once again the left has shot itself in the foot, so to speak. Trump’s mug shot is great! They couldn’t have staged a better photo with an ace photographer on a Hollywood set. The best meme going around has the Trump mug shot alongside an American Eagle with the same fierce gaze. Everything they do seems to backfire on them. I hope and pray all of the vindictive, ridiculous legal actions do as well.

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Peter GL's avatar

someone send me a picture of Trump's mug shot with "WANTED" above and "FOR PRESIDENT" below!

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Michele's avatar

EXCELLENT!

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Freebird's avatar

Haha! That's a good one!

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

I'm shocked that Shokin is still alive.

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Peregrine's avatar

I'm shocked The Alpha Donald is still alive. "They" will kill him before "they" allow him to re-take office.

Like JFK & RFK.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

War-pig Victoria Nuland hasn't showed up in his neighborhood...yet.

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Peter GL's avatar

nor has Hilary

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PNew's avatar

I’m concerned he’s letting the fox in- where’d clinton go?

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Anna Hannon's avatar

I’m from South Texas (the actual south Texas as in 10 miles from the border near Brownsville).

1. San Antonio suburbs is not South Texas. Victoria and below (maybe, more like Kingsville) is South Texas.

2. Texas should have their cowboy card taken away from them. They’ve been pansies the past few years. The liberals of Austin have taken over. My Tex Mex family are all cattle ranchers, shrimp boat owners, and teachers. I’ll just say all except my 97 year old aunt and a few cousins haven’t lost their mind and all need to turn in their cowboy card. I’m happy to call Florida home. Don’t mess with Florida. Texas needs to find their cohones.

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