Usually though, people acquire common sense based on their life experiences and hard lessons learned. At least that's what happened to me.
So common sense should be roughly in proportion to one's gray hair. As Proverbs 16:31 put it: "The silver-haired head is a crown of glory, If it is found in the way of righteousness."
Usually though, people acquire common sense based on their life experiences and hard lessons learned. At least that's what happened to me.
So common sense should be roughly in proportion to one's gray hair. As Proverbs 16:31 put it: "The silver-haired head is a crown of glory, If it is found in the way of righteousness."
But with regards to the vax, and frankly all things Covid, the elder set were the least rational, the least questioning, the most demanding, and the most fearful. The inversion of standard reality where the oldest are supposed to be the wisest.
Not all of us. I am 71 and my husband is 72. We tried to talk to others our age, but it seems they are so trusting of mainstream media and just cannot see the truth. I decided early on that I could not prevent myself getting covid and perhaps dying, but I could prevent harm from the jabs. As a follower of Christ I am in a win win situation. "To live is Christ and to die is gain." Hard to understand so many others being so fearful.
Totally agree, Annie. I am 76 and the extreme over reaction and weird advice to stay out of the hospital until you're nearly dead, etc. made me determined to deal with Covid rather than the government. I, too, realized that my life is in God's hands and if He wanted to take me to His presence by means of Covid, then so be it.
This is what it's all about. Christian or not, faith was the deciding factor in whether one took it or not.
And I'm editing in again to add my mother has always been a christian and took every jab (ended up in an Altz. home), and I rejected the church though not the principle and stayed well clear of them.
It's confusing to think I had more faith in God than she did...
Anne, you’re so right! It was very sad to see the level of fear among so many people. Among most of our Christian friends, it was more a case of brainwashing by the media, although some were very fearful. One especially sad couple was a retired pastor and his wife. They rarely came to church, and when they did, they were masked and their fear was palpable. I had looked up to him as an intelligent, strong leader…what a disappointment!
I have a friend (had really). She was so fearful of getting covid despite just age being her only risk at 66 then. Petrified. She had a bad hospitalization experience wears earlier which had likely colored her vision some, but it really is bc she listens to MSM and loves Liberalism!!! A former Long Island New Yorker to boot! She is so entrenched in her tribe liberal politics! Finally, I thought to myself after repeatedly trying to warn her of the risks, I don’t care if she gets a vaccine every 6 months!!!! She thinks she is right about all things. Good riddance and good luck. Hope her stomach issues don’t get worse. I tried to warn her.
Isnt it sad that issues have become so political? People once had differences of opinion but were more fluid in their opinions-- before the propaganda cable networks became an obsession.
I always recognize a crazed liberal by their type of comments on FB. They hate religion and faith..So, I look at their page and it will be filled with ' I got the vaccine' stuff and Ukrainian flags .
Cable tv and the internet (more liberal news propaganda everywhere online) will one day be known as the tools of our destruction as a country. The internet has so much potential for good, but is used for way more bad.
It confirms what I always observed: the media propaganda machine works by manipulating people's emotions.Logic, reason, real open minded intellectual debate, philosophical ponderings, critical thought (which universities *used* to foster) is a thing of the past.
We now have a populace which has become like 7 year olds in emotional maturity.
The brain washing by MSM is such that people have no clue. I took a film class 35 years ago and the Professor used Hitler examples of first wide scale professional Propaganda with film to persuade the country. Its much worse now and subtle with massive PR campaigns. You would think people would be more astute nowadays. They are more easily manipulated and don’t seem to give a hoot!!!
The DARPA Unmasked is very interesting, very interesting indeed. No wonder the push to jab everyone and Gate's deadly GMO insects are out doing their thing.
wonder how the fb liberal feels about over 1 million Ukrainians dead and many more harmed? how do they fill about vaccines not working but millions harmed and died because of it or bio weapon? Really want to know what they are thinking now?
Like everything - racism, gender ideology - political polarization is fed and driven by a broader divide-and-rule strategy. Wound up, emotional, and fearful people are easier to manipulate and control. It's sad that too many people still do not understand this and how they are being manipulated. My aforementioned neighbors, for example, who are truly good people but tragically uninformed.
Kudos to you and your husband for the gift of discernment from your loving creator! I was so appalled at the fact that my MIL told my son to just get the vaccine and also said the same thing to my husband. My husband was on it right from the start this was not good. My son was 26 and very healthy, as is my husband. Never before have we injured the young to protect the old. Evil abounds! Also a vaccine is SUPPOSED to protect the individual, so if this did why worry if others chose not to get it🤦♀️
People in some of that generation, like my dad, were brought up to trust doctors unconditionally. And in his day, they were a lot more honorable than they are now (obviously not all are bad now) and actually did their jobs of healing. Now they are - for the most part - bought off by big pharma and have nothing to do with healing, only managing symptoms. But I think a lot of these older folks were still clinging to the idea that the profession is honorable so they will believe anything a doctor says.
But that doesn't explain the irrational fear and things like demanding their grandkids get vaxxed to come over. I think it's because they largely abandoned Christianity, or cling to it as a cultural artifact rather than following the teachings of Christ. A lifetime of submission to Christ and biblical understanding gives one a far different perspective on the temporal nature of all of the things of this world.. The elderly used to have this, now it's lacking in many if not most.
My brother got the shot because he was over 65, he trusted science - actual science, (but somewhere along the line, the rules changed) and he did a lot of face to face meeting with medically frail, elderly people and he didn't want to get them sick. He wishes he hadn't gotten it. He wishes the medical system hadn't whored itself out to the highest bidder. Not all people got it because they lacked common sense or were frightened or were self seeking. Some people were trying to the best with the info they had.
Actually, I think the greatest generation had a very healthy distrust of government and corporations. My mother always distrusted Big Pharma, and my father Big Oil (they are one and the same) , and the government. when the Queen came to Toronto in 1953, he would not walk around the block to see her. They also had to rely on themselves for survival . The mental midgets today are so dependent on the government for almost everything they have willingly given up their desire to think. It boggles my mind.
This! Boggles my mind! Numerous elderly folks I know who routinely say "you can't trust the government", yet they immediately lined up to get shots because that's what the CDC said to do. When I question them on the discrepancy between their usual government stance and getting the shots they don't have an answer. I think it all boils down to fear and they can't bring themselves to believe that anyone would be that evil.
72 here and skeptical from the get go…or let go.. whatever. The 201 mtg was kind of a tip off. Like a rodeo of stake holders (snake oil salesman) and community leaders being lassoed by the global corporate virtue shaming gravy train. As per Jeff’s posted emails between these experts on how dangerous the jabs were… how do they cope with what they helped perpetuate? I think we need to start a ‘give send go to hell’ for these types.
Not really. Think about it: they grew up in a different time, as did I, and probably many of us. However, as a younger boomer, I am more informed than a typical old timer would be
I have relatives in Europe and remember a time when their country was poor. We were proud that everything in the US was so exemplary: medicine (including vaccines), medical system, food, values, economy. We were blessed! This WAS a great country. My immigrant grandfather came here dirt poor and he proceeded to make an amazing life for himself and his family as a small business owner in NYC. My point of the story is that there was a time when everything was trusted in this country including the media and this country was great because everything was good, everything was possible, everything was hopeful.
Sadly, these people haven't caught on to the huge change that has occured here. My mother who passed away in January at the age of 88, did come to the realization of this change and it saddened her. She was a bit of a loner by nature, a huge history buff and intell ectual, so she engrossed herself on the internet. Her sadness started when she realized that the country she loved was not honorable in foreign policy and that the Democrats used unethical tactics from the Saul Alinsky playbook...
From there it was an easy road to not trusting the gvt anymore in anything so she didnt take vaccines. However, she was an enigma to others her age who were not as keen on research and the internet.
Those sweet older people do not know that our medicine is now for profit not health, our gvt is corrupt, our food is of low quality, our gvt agencies cannot be trusted, our media is leftist, communist, New world order (call it what you want) propaganda, and finally, that our country is in steep decline. 😢
Oh my gosh I wish I could convince my mother to believe these things. She’s such a smart woman usually but she just can not believe that the fda and cdc are lying about anything at all. I’ve tried and tried to tell her that based on my own education and experiences (I’m a pharmacist ffs!) that it all smelled worse than the pig sties she had to clean as a kid growing up on the farm we later lived and raised calves on. It makes me so sad. 🙁
This reality is a hard pill to swallow for those in their final golden years. I see that age brings a great vulnerability and sensitivity of spirit to even those who were once brave and strong. Perhaps it is best to let them be if they can't emotionally handle it? 🤷
My mother believed anything a Dr said. She ended up with a morphine pump in her back methadone, and several other meds. She died 18 years ago and my dad listened to me after years of meds for him. So much trust in a scam.
I have silver hair, so does my husband. All our friends are crowned with silver hair, and none of us took the jab.
The jab was forced on those in the nursing/assisted living homes. Many were coerced by their children. Neither of our children or any of our grands got it. Only our sil, who is very smart but has never had a lick of common sense in his life.
Most of the silver-haired people I know did not get the jab
My siblings and husband’s siblings, of the silver-haired set, all drank the kool-aid. I’m still, may I use the word - baffled! And tremendously saddened.
Remember Ed Dowd's data. The largest group of excess deaths is the ones working for corporations with health insurance, ie. young, healthy, access to health care, good jobs, probably better life style. 40 % excess deaths over the general population , which includes All of the old people.
Fear produces strange behaviors. I am no rocket scientist, but I figured it out practically on day one. But then again, maybe that rocket scientist comparison needs to be switched because they really never made it to the moon.
Fear always prompts me to do research, because the more I know, the better I usually feel about a situation. My reading and research brought up information and questions that made me skeptical of the arguments being made about Covid and the supposed mitigation measures. But for some people, I think fear has the opposite effect. It shuts their brain down and they don’t think at all, just react.
RL - you were smart enough to do your reading and research in areas other than the mainstream. Folks could do research 24/7 but if it is all from the same ilk, the research will give false information.
Yes I guess my background has taught me to do that. If it’s all from the same ultimate source then you’re not getting the full story or the full range of options.
Many of the elderly were basically forced by their children and their doctors to get jabbed. It’s hard as a grandmother to not see family. I’m 73 and argued with my older son about this. I also argued with my rheumatologist. I told both NO, no fn way. I’m still and will remain unvaccinated unafraid unmasked. I know another in her 80s that only acquiesced to one jab because she wanted to travel again while she was able.
You are right. I know someone in town who got her parents and invalid nephew jabbed early to protect them, and subsequently found out it was a huge mistake. She found out in time to keep her daughter and herself and husband unjabbed, but is plagued by the guilt of believing the media, the government , and medical mafia to the detriment of her kin. She told me this herself, and I don't see her often.
Jeff C, I disagree with your statement that common sense is acquired with age, as you pointed out in your last paragraph. Common sense is an innate characteristic, those who have it were most likely born with it and inherited it much like their iQ. Some may learn to stop repeating mistakes through the school of hard knocks, but many never do. We have some interesting discussions about nature vs. nurture in our family. But I believe the Bible when it says that consequences are carried for 7 generations.
I think it's both in all honesty. My sixteen year old just has it instinctively, he asks himself "is this a good idea?" before venturing off into some dubious adventure. My 19 year old has to learn things the hard way unfortunately.
I learned things the hard way (alcoholism, drug addiction, self-pity as a teenager/young adult). Through God's grace I got sober in my mid-twenties and learned some hard lessons. And there's no one more intense and introspective than an ex screw-up who's turned their life around in my experience. We tend to not repeat the same mistakes.
Freebird - you proved my intuition about acquiring common sense. I was leaning toward it coming from families who teach it and discuss discernment and common sense. Then you stated you had interesting discussion about nature vs. nurture in your family - there ya go!
I agree with Jeff’s s reply that it’s some of both. It’s a complicated topic that we circle round and round. 😊 But I’d like to throw in another term that we often overlook in the discussion. Wisdom…..which is a lot like common sense, and may be mistaken for it; but it is a spiritual gift from God given to believers. Deeper and wider than common sense, and neither acquired nor inherited.
Many of them have been indoctrinated into following whatever their doctors say. Most of them are on multiple medications for whatever the current malady is. Many of them get the flu shot.
You are correct in what should have happened, but more telling is the clear correlation of that generation getting us into this mess in the first place. Outsource to the experts, get all info from MSM, and never ask questions. It was the perfect generation to manipulate and it worked.
My mom is 85. My sister and I are ferocious researchers when it comes to health, so she does trust us, but it took a little bit to convince her if she didn’t need it. By the way, my mom is probably going to outlive me that’s the type of shape she’s in, but that generation grew up for lack of a better word, worshiping doctors. Remember they had the education it was before the Internet before you could actually read scientific studies online, or do any type of research so that knowledge was only for the physicians not for the average person
I was working in a grocery store in ‘20 & ‘21 so I saw all age groups. While people of all ages ranged from completely fearful to skeptical, overall the more mature customers trended skeptical and the younger trended fearful. Completely anecdotal and unscientific, just my observations.
Operative word in the Proverb above "IF". Unfortunately many people have gray hair yet lived their life denying GOD therefore did not go the way of righteousness
Jeff C very interesting observation. Please expand further the "what is off with all of this". Was is just programing from Fox News? Cell phones? My Vax neighbor literally stated that if we didn't all get vaxxed the economy could never get going again.
Usually though, people acquire common sense based on their life experiences and hard lessons learned. At least that's what happened to me.
So common sense should be roughly in proportion to one's gray hair. As Proverbs 16:31 put it: "The silver-haired head is a crown of glory, If it is found in the way of righteousness."
But with regards to the vax, and frankly all things Covid, the elder set were the least rational, the least questioning, the most demanding, and the most fearful. The inversion of standard reality where the oldest are supposed to be the wisest.
Something is really off with all of this.
Not all of us. I am 71 and my husband is 72. We tried to talk to others our age, but it seems they are so trusting of mainstream media and just cannot see the truth. I decided early on that I could not prevent myself getting covid and perhaps dying, but I could prevent harm from the jabs. As a follower of Christ I am in a win win situation. "To live is Christ and to die is gain." Hard to understand so many others being so fearful.
Totally agree, Annie. I am 76 and the extreme over reaction and weird advice to stay out of the hospital until you're nearly dead, etc. made me determined to deal with Covid rather than the government. I, too, realized that my life is in God's hands and if He wanted to take me to His presence by means of Covid, then so be it.
This is what it's all about. Christian or not, faith was the deciding factor in whether one took it or not.
And I'm editing in again to add my mother has always been a christian and took every jab (ended up in an Altz. home), and I rejected the church though not the principle and stayed well clear of them.
It's confusing to think I had more faith in God than she did...
Fear is of the flesh, and the more we engage in it, the stronger its hold becomes.
The battle of the "F" words: Faith over fear.
Anne, you’re so right! It was very sad to see the level of fear among so many people. Among most of our Christian friends, it was more a case of brainwashing by the media, although some were very fearful. One especially sad couple was a retired pastor and his wife. They rarely came to church, and when they did, they were masked and their fear was palpable. I had looked up to him as an intelligent, strong leader…what a disappointment!
Jeffs Substack on Covid and 'The Church' is most excellent!!
Yes it is!
I have a friend (had really). She was so fearful of getting covid despite just age being her only risk at 66 then. Petrified. She had a bad hospitalization experience wears earlier which had likely colored her vision some, but it really is bc she listens to MSM and loves Liberalism!!! A former Long Island New Yorker to boot! She is so entrenched in her tribe liberal politics! Finally, I thought to myself after repeatedly trying to warn her of the risks, I don’t care if she gets a vaccine every 6 months!!!! She thinks she is right about all things. Good riddance and good luck. Hope her stomach issues don’t get worse. I tried to warn her.
Isnt it sad that issues have become so political? People once had differences of opinion but were more fluid in their opinions-- before the propaganda cable networks became an obsession.
I always recognize a crazed liberal by their type of comments on FB. They hate religion and faith..So, I look at their page and it will be filled with ' I got the vaccine' stuff and Ukrainian flags .
Cable tv and the internet (more liberal news propaganda everywhere online) will one day be known as the tools of our destruction as a country. The internet has so much potential for good, but is used for way more bad.
All by design. This may interest you if you have not yet seen it AngelaK: https://tritorch.com/folly
Politics is mind control.
Thanks, a good read.
It confirms what I always observed: the media propaganda machine works by manipulating people's emotions.Logic, reason, real open minded intellectual debate, philosophical ponderings, critical thought (which universities *used* to foster) is a thing of the past.
We now have a populace which has become like 7 year olds in emotional maturity.
The brain washing by MSM is such that people have no clue. I took a film class 35 years ago and the Professor used Hitler examples of first wide scale professional Propaganda with film to persuade the country. Its much worse now and subtle with massive PR campaigns. You would think people would be more astute nowadays. They are more easily manipulated and don’t seem to give a hoot!!!
The DARPA Unmasked is very interesting, very interesting indeed. No wonder the push to jab everyone and Gate's deadly GMO insects are out doing their thing.
wonder how the fb liberal feels about over 1 million Ukrainians dead and many more harmed? how do they fill about vaccines not working but millions harmed and died because of it or bio weapon? Really want to know what they are thinking now?
They dont know or accept it.
They have full faith in their beliefs.
Like everything - racism, gender ideology - political polarization is fed and driven by a broader divide-and-rule strategy. Wound up, emotional, and fearful people are easier to manipulate and control. It's sad that too many people still do not understand this and how they are being manipulated. My aforementioned neighbors, for example, who are truly good people but tragically uninformed.
💯
Kudos to you and your husband for the gift of discernment from your loving creator! I was so appalled at the fact that my MIL told my son to just get the vaccine and also said the same thing to my husband. My husband was on it right from the start this was not good. My son was 26 and very healthy, as is my husband. Never before have we injured the young to protect the old. Evil abounds! Also a vaccine is SUPPOSED to protect the individual, so if this did why worry if others chose not to get it🤦♀️
Amen, Anne.
People in some of that generation, like my dad, were brought up to trust doctors unconditionally. And in his day, they were a lot more honorable than they are now (obviously not all are bad now) and actually did their jobs of healing. Now they are - for the most part - bought off by big pharma and have nothing to do with healing, only managing symptoms. But I think a lot of these older folks were still clinging to the idea that the profession is honorable so they will believe anything a doctor says.
Yep, that is a huge part of it.
But that doesn't explain the irrational fear and things like demanding their grandkids get vaxxed to come over. I think it's because they largely abandoned Christianity, or cling to it as a cultural artifact rather than following the teachings of Christ. A lifetime of submission to Christ and biblical understanding gives one a far different perspective on the temporal nature of all of the things of this world.. The elderly used to have this, now it's lacking in many if not most.
What a great point!
My brother got the shot because he was over 65, he trusted science - actual science, (but somewhere along the line, the rules changed) and he did a lot of face to face meeting with medically frail, elderly people and he didn't want to get them sick. He wishes he hadn't gotten it. He wishes the medical system hadn't whored itself out to the highest bidder. Not all people got it because they lacked common sense or were frightened or were self seeking. Some people were trying to the best with the info they had.
Actually, I think the greatest generation had a very healthy distrust of government and corporations. My mother always distrusted Big Pharma, and my father Big Oil (they are one and the same) , and the government. when the Queen came to Toronto in 1953, he would not walk around the block to see her. They also had to rely on themselves for survival . The mental midgets today are so dependent on the government for almost everything they have willingly given up their desire to think. It boggles my mind.
dependence is what they want so they can comment their fraud and crimes
Yes 💯.. You are absolutely correct!
This! Boggles my mind! Numerous elderly folks I know who routinely say "you can't trust the government", yet they immediately lined up to get shots because that's what the CDC said to do. When I question them on the discrepancy between their usual government stance and getting the shots they don't have an answer. I think it all boils down to fear and they can't bring themselves to believe that anyone would be that evil.
72 here and skeptical from the get go…or let go.. whatever. The 201 mtg was kind of a tip off. Like a rodeo of stake holders (snake oil salesman) and community leaders being lassoed by the global corporate virtue shaming gravy train. As per Jeff’s posted emails between these experts on how dangerous the jabs were… how do they cope with what they helped perpetuate? I think we need to start a ‘give send go to hell’ for these types.
Not really. Think about it: they grew up in a different time, as did I, and probably many of us. However, as a younger boomer, I am more informed than a typical old timer would be
I have relatives in Europe and remember a time when their country was poor. We were proud that everything in the US was so exemplary: medicine (including vaccines), medical system, food, values, economy. We were blessed! This WAS a great country. My immigrant grandfather came here dirt poor and he proceeded to make an amazing life for himself and his family as a small business owner in NYC. My point of the story is that there was a time when everything was trusted in this country including the media and this country was great because everything was good, everything was possible, everything was hopeful.
Sadly, these people haven't caught on to the huge change that has occured here. My mother who passed away in January at the age of 88, did come to the realization of this change and it saddened her. She was a bit of a loner by nature, a huge history buff and intell ectual, so she engrossed herself on the internet. Her sadness started when she realized that the country she loved was not honorable in foreign policy and that the Democrats used unethical tactics from the Saul Alinsky playbook...
From there it was an easy road to not trusting the gvt anymore in anything so she didnt take vaccines. However, she was an enigma to others her age who were not as keen on research and the internet.
Those sweet older people do not know that our medicine is now for profit not health, our gvt is corrupt, our food is of low quality, our gvt agencies cannot be trusted, our media is leftist, communist, New world order (call it what you want) propaganda, and finally, that our country is in steep decline. 😢
Oh my gosh I wish I could convince my mother to believe these things. She’s such a smart woman usually but she just can not believe that the fda and cdc are lying about anything at all. I’ve tried and tried to tell her that based on my own education and experiences (I’m a pharmacist ffs!) that it all smelled worse than the pig sties she had to clean as a kid growing up on the farm we later lived and raised calves on. It makes me so sad. 🙁
This reality is a hard pill to swallow for those in their final golden years. I see that age brings a great vulnerability and sensitivity of spirit to even those who were once brave and strong. Perhaps it is best to let them be if they can't emotionally handle it? 🤷
its what happen in Germany all over again. Govt lied and they walked to trains to their deaths with no bullets fired believing the lies all the time.
My mother believed anything a Dr said. She ended up with a morphine pump in her back methadone, and several other meds. She died 18 years ago and my dad listened to me after years of meds for him. So much trust in a scam.
its not our media but owned by the elites
I have silver hair, so does my husband. All our friends are crowned with silver hair, and none of us took the jab.
The jab was forced on those in the nursing/assisted living homes. Many were coerced by their children. Neither of our children or any of our grands got it. Only our sil, who is very smart but has never had a lick of common sense in his life.
Most of the silver-haired people I know did not get the jab
My siblings and husband’s siblings, of the silver-haired set, all drank the kool-aid. I’m still, may I use the word - baffled! And tremendously saddened.
That’s good to hear, but my experience has been totally the opposite!
Remember Ed Dowd's data. The largest group of excess deaths is the ones working for corporations with health insurance, ie. young, healthy, access to health care, good jobs, probably better life style. 40 % excess deaths over the general population , which includes All of the old people.
Fear produces strange behaviors. I am no rocket scientist, but I figured it out practically on day one. But then again, maybe that rocket scientist comparison needs to be switched because they really never made it to the moon.
Fear always prompts me to do research, because the more I know, the better I usually feel about a situation. My reading and research brought up information and questions that made me skeptical of the arguments being made about Covid and the supposed mitigation measures. But for some people, I think fear has the opposite effect. It shuts their brain down and they don’t think at all, just react.
You are so right on. I have a friend who will not talk about anything nefarious because “ it upsets me too much.”
That’s so weird to me, not knowing upsets me much more!
Me too! My fear prompts me to research everything! lol.
RL - you were smart enough to do your reading and research in areas other than the mainstream. Folks could do research 24/7 but if it is all from the same ilk, the research will give false information.
Yes I guess my background has taught me to do that. If it’s all from the same ultimate source then you’re not getting the full story or the full range of options.
I laugh everytime I see - we can land a man on the moon but can't . . .
best comedy bit ever.
Fearful people are walking in the flesh.
Many of the elderly were basically forced by their children and their doctors to get jabbed. It’s hard as a grandmother to not see family. I’m 73 and argued with my older son about this. I also argued with my rheumatologist. I told both NO, no fn way. I’m still and will remain unvaccinated unafraid unmasked. I know another in her 80s that only acquiesced to one jab because she wanted to travel again while she was able.
You are right. I know someone in town who got her parents and invalid nephew jabbed early to protect them, and subsequently found out it was a huge mistake. She found out in time to keep her daughter and herself and husband unjabbed, but is plagued by the guilt of believing the media, the government , and medical mafia to the detriment of her kin. She told me this herself, and I don't see her often.
Jeff C, I disagree with your statement that common sense is acquired with age, as you pointed out in your last paragraph. Common sense is an innate characteristic, those who have it were most likely born with it and inherited it much like their iQ. Some may learn to stop repeating mistakes through the school of hard knocks, but many never do. We have some interesting discussions about nature vs. nurture in our family. But I believe the Bible when it says that consequences are carried for 7 generations.
Always appreciate your comments Freebird.
I think it's both in all honesty. My sixteen year old just has it instinctively, he asks himself "is this a good idea?" before venturing off into some dubious adventure. My 19 year old has to learn things the hard way unfortunately.
I learned things the hard way (alcoholism, drug addiction, self-pity as a teenager/young adult). Through God's grace I got sober in my mid-twenties and learned some hard lessons. And there's no one more intense and introspective than an ex screw-up who's turned their life around in my experience. We tend to not repeat the same mistakes.
Thank God for your conversion Jeff!
Freebird - you proved my intuition about acquiring common sense. I was leaning toward it coming from families who teach it and discuss discernment and common sense. Then you stated you had interesting discussion about nature vs. nurture in your family - there ya go!
I agree with Jeff’s s reply that it’s some of both. It’s a complicated topic that we circle round and round. 😊 But I’d like to throw in another term that we often overlook in the discussion. Wisdom…..which is a lot like common sense, and may be mistaken for it; but it is a spiritual gift from God given to believers. Deeper and wider than common sense, and neither acquired nor inherited.
Yes yes and yes! Thanks for that Freebird. Wise words and very deep. Blessings to you and yours.♥
Many of them have been indoctrinated into following whatever their doctors say. Most of them are on multiple medications for whatever the current malady is. Many of them get the flu shot.
You are correct in what should have happened, but more telling is the clear correlation of that generation getting us into this mess in the first place. Outsource to the experts, get all info from MSM, and never ask questions. It was the perfect generation to manipulate and it worked.
My mom is 85. My sister and I are ferocious researchers when it comes to health, so she does trust us, but it took a little bit to convince her if she didn’t need it. By the way, my mom is probably going to outlive me that’s the type of shape she’s in, but that generation grew up for lack of a better word, worshiping doctors. Remember they had the education it was before the Internet before you could actually read scientific studies online, or do any type of research so that knowledge was only for the physicians not for the average person
I was working in a grocery store in ‘20 & ‘21 so I saw all age groups. While people of all ages ranged from completely fearful to skeptical, overall the more mature customers trended skeptical and the younger trended fearful. Completely anecdotal and unscientific, just my observations.
Operative word in the Proverb above "IF". Unfortunately many people have gray hair yet lived their life denying GOD therefore did not go the way of righteousness
Kudos to you Ruth!
Jeff C very interesting observation. Please expand further the "what is off with all of this". Was is just programing from Fox News? Cell phones? My Vax neighbor literally stated that if we didn't all get vaxxed the economy could never get going again.