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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree.

But I did raise my eyebrows when someone showed me his donor list which had a lot of global elitist people on it. Then as all the lefties and rinos and pee Ryan started pushing for him to run and supporting him saying what a great president he would be….. I started thinking maybe he is their puppet. Then Soros came out yesterday I think and supported him and I was like….WHAAAAAT?

But I also use common sense and realize of course they are all pushing him to the front and goading him into running…because they just don’t want Trump. Anybody but Trump!! And why don’t they want him so bad? Because he’s someone who calls them out and fights them privately and publicly (I know, except for jab stuff).

So of course they need to try and push DeSantis into it and of course they will bank roll him to do it if it means keeping Trump out. They are scared of Trump. Once the field is narrowed, if DeSantis was the nominee….the bank roll would dry up so they can put everything into their real puppet. I suspect.

So, I’m withholding judgement on this whole thing until it plays out. I will not board the DeSantis train yet because he hasn’t even said he’s running. Personally I hope he doesn’t because he is so effective as a governor and the only governor leading by example. It’s too soon for him to leave this and enter the swamp. My opinion is that the country needs him as a governor for now. But we’ll see. Until there’s an actual choice to be made…..I won’t make a choice.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Ya I'm down with Don or Ron. But neither will win until we fix the elections.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

At the risk of sounding like a broken record 😬, everyone should check out Jay Valentine’s work at omega 4 america dot com (delete the spaces). It is truly mind-boggling to see how “they” have accomplished total control over the voting system. And we can’t fight it if we don’t know about it! Eyes open and praying for wisdom and discernment 🙏🏻

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Politico Phil's avatar

Very cool!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Agreed!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Trump isn’t viable. He’s gone off the deep end. Desantis will probably be good

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daverkb's avatar

Dear Benjie Boy, Tribe of Benjamin,

I thought you went to Troll Vacation Land! But since you are back with the same old boring schtick, here's you special treat:

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Pretty simple, Russia is 99% of the time the bad guy.

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Fortified City's avatar

I suggest you become informed by stop believing MSM

The United States has always been the aggressor but surely a smart fella like yourself already knows that:

Russia has a no strike first policy regarding nuclear.

However, the United States does!!

Furthermore, no other country has use a nuclear bomb on another except the United States

Not only one but two

The bigger one dropped on Hiroshima killed 80, 000

Incidentally this was not on a military installation but on a civilian city killing women and children.

Not good enough so we dropped a second three days later on Nagasaki killing 40,000 more again on a civilian city.

We talk a great country doesn’t sound so great to me

You spout off about Russia bad you simply parroting what you heard the Neocons yapping about.

You don’t know really anything about Russia independent from you what you been spoon fed by the propaganda machine.

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daverkb's avatar

Benjie Boy, Tribe of Benjamin, is not interested in Truth. Benjie Boy basically likes to beat on people with The Narrative. And besides, nobody here takes him very seriously. In fact, Benjie Boy is a quite boring person.

Here's not worth the time of day!

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Also, the nukes were AFTER Fire bombing 73 cities up and down the entire island of Japan. (History Channel, series on WW2). Supposedly to avoid the costly land invasion. Tough call to make. War is hell. Nobody is right; you just end up with what's left.

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OnTheJump's avatar

......and 'what's left' is gonna look a helluva a lot like Ukraine, when US-NATO done with it.

BUT WAIT!!

When the war is declared 'Over' by one and all - here comes the West with mo' money for reparations - and please push "Repeat Rinse" cycle to continue with your laundering needs ......

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OnTheJump's avatar

As to the source of " mo' money " ??

Well, US has already coughed up over $110 Billion -

You taxpayers don't mind shelling out some more dollars for good ol' Ukraine, do ya ?

FTX is gone, but we have a few new ideas .......

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Turfseer's avatar

Yes a tough call. And the Japanese at that time were true fanatics.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia killed more in one year than the atomic bombings did…in ukriane

Why does Russia continuously threaten nuclear strikes if they have a no first strike

Policy?

Russia has invaded far more and also committed more ethnic cleansings and forced deportations. That’s why Ukraine

Is as anti-Russia as it is and fighting so hard.

Russia claimed victory on day 2 but had to back track

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Ukraine, first and foremost, is a money laundering operation for the globalist in the democrat party. Which is nearly all of them. RINO’s too.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Where?

How do I launder a himars? Like with a cloth?

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daverkb's avatar

Brilliant Benjie Boy! You? Yes, you with a cloth?

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Peter 🔒's avatar

LMAO, aim at urself, benji

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What happened to the 500 Russians sitting having a New Years party in himars range?

Not good.

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Peter 🔒's avatar

Russia is like ANY EMPIRE.

Ghengis Khan would give The state of Russia a run for their money on killings....but every empire has had wars, disputes over resources, Rulers, armies, the people, and yes slaves. They aren't they only one.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And empires are not always good.

And right now the ukrainain people are beating the Russian empire, just like the polish people did.

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Maybella82's avatar

You are wrong on so many items of what is really going on. You need to look into what Ukraine has been doing with biolabs, drones, child trafficking, sex trafficking, money laundering and genocide of its own people. Z is a puppet for the elite.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What genocide?

What bio labs?

Z refused to bend the knee to an elite and told him to shove it and eat poop.

Russia committed genocide against Ukraine and killed 6 million of their citizens in one year.

And now they want to do it again

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Turfseer's avatar

A different point of view from someone who lives in Ukraine now. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-conflict-a-primer

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Gonzalo lira doenst live in Ukraine. He was kicked out a while ago.

He also can’t tell the difference between a Russian tank and a ukrainain one, so about that.

He’s also the guy who told old men to go chase 18 year olds because it’s better sex.

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Turfseer's avatar

Where does he live now?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He’s in Amsterdam. Ukrainian officials stated he was ejected from the country.

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Turfseer's avatar

Agreed. The US no longer can claim the high road. They're just as bad as China.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Russia is bad 99% of the time?

Sounds like something Hillary or Biden or CNN would say.

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OnTheJump's avatar

You might find this interesting, Benjamin Two N's -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK9tLDeWBzs

Tune in at about the 2:20:00 mark,

but the following 45 minutes are quite interesting - and the "meat" of this conversation is found at ~ the 2:53:00 mark, and the following 10 minutes.

........... you'll need to read the subtitles - unless your Hebrew is up to snuff.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Explain to me what it is.

Israel is sending a lot of aid to Ukraine also, fun fact.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Former Prime Minister Naftali Bennett describes his interaction, as "intermediary", between Ukraine and Russia....... it is quite interesting, truly.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Bennett is a rather credible source, it seems. Sharp guy.

He had been speaking with both Putin and Zelensky.........and then, ultimately, Scholz, and the US and the UK - he has a great deal to say.

Yet he cannot disclose "all", sadly. Wish he could have felt free to do so.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I wish he could, it would be neat to see how Israeli weapons are being used to kill russians.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Very reasonable analysis, Sunnydaze.

I think it is also possible that elitist money, and Soros money, might be thrown at him to make people somewhat skeptical of DeSantis.

Quite a team DeSantis and Ladapo make - and I'm enjoying hearing and seeing Florida's lefties squirm.

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David A's avatar

I am not sure that makes sense, as the money has to be accepted yes?

I will take my time to consider all of this. Here are my thoughts in this thread.https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/revived-friday-february-17-2023-c/comment/12867234

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OnTheJump's avatar

Taking someone's money does NOT make one beholden - I might consider just saying "thank you" with a smile......... unless the acceptance might cause too much friction, down the line.

Signing a deal with the devil is entirely another matter.....

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Politico Phil's avatar

Their strategy is sow division, divide and conquer. They will do everything they can to sow discord among us and to sow doubts in our minds. When was the last time Soros openly endorsed anyone. The Nazi Left has donated untold tens of millions to the Bolshevik Dems. But it is done through non-profit organizations and NGOs. So, why would he want his name on a DeSantis endorsement, eh? How much did he donate? Enough to make a difference or just enough to get noticed?

Take nothing a face value. Always assume their intention is the exact opposite of the stated purpose. Believe nothing.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes Politico Phil!!! Nailed it 👏 👏

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yes he did !

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

👏👏👏👏

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I totally agree. The Soros endorsement of DeSantis reeks of diabolical 5G warfare. Why would the enemy endorse your most aggressive and effective warrior? Simple. It plants a seed of doubt, implying that your warrior is compromised, and it divides his army over the endorsement. We should judge a tree only by its fruit. DeSantis is at the epicenter of righteous resistance to wokesters and a catalyst for the New Great Awakening. Soros is the consistent face of greed, globalism, the Beast, and the Father of Lies.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Turns out it really wasn’t an endorsement anyway. Just him sticking his evil nose in where it isn’t wanted to trash trump some more.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

When the time comes we’ll still need to be watchful of DeSantis. He’ll be beholden to big donors with their kiss of death.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I agree. My liberal “friends” assume I’m hardcore right wing because, around them, I push back against the progressive agenda. That doesn’t mean I’m a fan boy of avowed conservatives. Many are just as treacherous—McConnell, Cornyn, Graham . . . the list goes on. We should never elect anyone based on promises and put them on autopilot.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

News flash. That group is definitely not Conservative. They’re opportunists and part of what is now known as the uni-party. There is no difference between them and Democrats. Eyes wide open.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it would be better for DeSantis to stay in Florida. In WH he would be a puppet and not able to do anything

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Fortified City's avatar

I’m feel the same way, actually I don’t think I could live through another 4 years of a Trump presidency.

Watching him get bloodied and tied up in the ropes each and every day just wore me out.

Trump called his worst enemy Bill “bondo” Barr a good guy at one of his rallies, remember that??

Being Constantly surrounded by the wrong people, believing the whispering of the wrong people.

I don’t think I can remember Trump ever pressing the battle by using his power as the President.

It’s gonna take more than just fussing and arguing with the media.

Don’t get me wrong I voted for Trump twice I sincerely appreciate his love for the country. But he’s too nice we need a person that understands political war ain’t pretty and nice. And sometimes “you gotta get mad dog mean”

They were able to come in and take over and Trump just sorta walked away. I mean what was that about??

And he’s been fussing and crying so to speak the whole time since.

Oh yes indeed we need a person with some sharp teeth who need not rely on the wealthy donor class of corrupt multinational corporations of oligarchy.

Do we even have such a one on the planet??

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David A's avatar

And yet, I look at two things, results, and a tendency to support who the WEF deep state most hates.

The US GEBs (working closely with the European GEBs,) appear to be maniacally desperate to harm Russia precisely perhaps because Putin won’t play their One World GOVERNMENT games. And Trump was a beacon to all nations to also not play their “Rule the World” games, and exercise strong self interest. Keeping Trump and Russia apart appears, in retrospect, to have been the deeper benefit of the “Russia Russia Russia” manufactured attack on Trump. The number one goal was to remove Trump and an independent nationalist USA, and two, aligned with that goal, keep the nationalist US and nationalist Soviet Union apart, punish them, and you crush Nationalism everywhere.

Trump’s economic success, and beacon call to rational Nationalism made his removal necessary, made Covid 19 ( almost certainly a man made manufactured crisis) necessary. And Trump’s success was massive and growing! He had China by the short hairs, India was fully aboard, Mexico was cooperating, Asia was cooperating, Eastern Europe was cooperating, anti indiscriminate immigration ideology was growing, bilateral and tri -lateral trade deals were rewriting global trade, with the number one economy and super power in the world, a strong USA. Canada was being dragged , against their will, to the trade table. Even North Korea was bowing to the Trump doctrine. It took Covid 19, two illegal Impeachment attempts, and “Russia Russia Russia” to stop Trump, and the world from getting on board his train of rational Nationalism.

So blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, is simply continuing that Malthusian “Rule the World” attack on Sovereign independence, suppressing Russia, while supporting the US puppet, a corrupt controlled Ukraine. These folk could not care less about populations, indeed, populations are the enemy, strong Nations are the enemy.

Controlling a nation is so 20th century passe, just as corporations are global, ruling the world is so tantalizingly close. Breaking a few eggs to make the One World Omelette, now means destroying National Sovereign ideology.

Also

"Trump didn’t know enough virology to be able to single-handedly defeat Fauci, Birx, the CCP, the Democrats, Big-Pharma, FBI corruption, The Lancet, and the CDC. But his gut instinct to shut the border was spot on. His instinct that those who spoke of HCQ were right was accurate and brave. His withdrawal of funds from the culpable WHO was better than any other western leader."

Trump was desperate to get back to his working global economic reorganization, and he knew the lockdowns would stop that and be as harmful as the disease.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Don't miss The Highwire and the Jaxen Report from Yesterday. Lots on the rail wreck. https://tinyurl.com/3n7jdz5r

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Will they cover the Russian failure in Ukraine? I know they declared victory on day 2 but are still fighting

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Maybella82's avatar

Russia has been using their third sting. They could have taken Ukraine out the first day. Do your homework.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

100 percent wrong.

Are t80bvm tanks third rate? Those are used by the elite units.

Are t72b3 tanks used by the 3rd rate units? Hardly.

The vdv launched into hostomel on an air assault and was massacred. They left behind hundreds of new bmd vehicles.

Russia lost its best men in suicide rushes early on.

That’s false beyond degree.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

AND, he knew they were setting us up for a LONG lockdown of maybe up to 10 years. A vaccine push was inevitable and the evil behind it would have made it a long and involved mess. At least he could give it the push it needed and avoided losing millions of people in a deadly lockdown and the full destruction of the American economy.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The Soviet Union is a threat to the USA.

Furthermore, Russia is an enemy of the USA.

A free and prosperous Ukraine apart of nato is good for us.

Who is threatening to nuke the USA all the time?

Putin.

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Credenda's avatar

Ukraine is not a free country (except for LGBT and other western values) It’s wealth has long been the plaything of American and Israeli oligarchs. Think Bandera worship and the Biden crime family and you’ve understood.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ukraine is a lot better off now than under Russia.

You might want to go check on your boys In vuhledar , they’re being killed by th e hundreds daily

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yes, Ukraine is a free country.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You're living in the past. Go back to school.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

How’s vuhledar going, comrade?

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Harold Saive's avatar

Soviet Union no longer exists since 1991

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It’s back.

Russia wants all of the old empire and has called the collapse of the evil empire the greatest tragedy of the last century

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David A's avatar

Zero evidence of that

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That is literally what they are saying.

They even claim Alaska is a fraudulent purchase, too.

Have you gotten your Sputnik shot yet? Putin mandates it. Also a digital ID.

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David A's avatar

Your consistent sarcasm is both ignorant and arrogant. A challenge, produce a Putin quite where he wants to reestablish the Soviet empire.

Understanding a Russian perspective is not the same as endorsing it. The region of the Ukraine that Putin wanted, voted 80 percent for the pro Russia Ukraine candidate. They speak Russian, and they have a multi century history of being Russian. It is know the US engineered a color revolution in 2014, and broke many agreements. We now know that the negotiations with Russia were not in good faith, but simply to allow time to build the military. George Washington advised to stay out of foreign wars, and for very good reasons.

Was he “rootin for Putin?

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Politico Phil's avatar

It's telling he(?) has nothing to reply with. He's never addressed any of my substantive comments either. All he has is a pre-written narrative. Straight neo-con double talk.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I absolutely do address your narratives.

People say Russia is winning, yet can't comment on why they declared victory on February 26th of 2022 and are still fighting and claim it was planned to lose tens of thousands of men, 1900 tanks, and a flagship. All part of the plan.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Those regions voted for independence from Russia in 1991. In Zelensky's hometown they speak a lot of Russian, that's doesn't make them Russian. The people want to be Ukrainian, not Russian.

When Ukraine liberated 99% of Kharkiv oblast in a lightning offensive there were countless videos of people speaking Russian coming out and greeting them.

On February 26th 2022 the Russian state media declared victory over Ukraine.

The RIAA reported "Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus )? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end."

Putin sees Ukraine as a Russian state, not it's own entity.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226224717/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

The US didn't break any agreements, but Russia did. Numerous times.

The Budapest agreements, Russia-Ukraine Friendship (1997), Minsk one and two, START, I can go on.

An agreement with Russia is not worth the paper it is written on.

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David A's avatar

You did not produce the quote supporting your assertion. You ignore the atrocities committed. You ignore the history of the land. You ignore the votes that did not support your assertions,

Your detail of the history completely leaves out the NATO failures, and their leadership in those failed agreements. There is no evidence Putin intends to reestablish the Soviet Union.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Silly me, I saw all the hammer and sickle flags flying by Russian soldiers and was confused

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Maybella82's avatar

You sound like you are working for the elite. Who is paying you?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You are.

It’s funny how someone who was brought to this website because of a desire to fight the military mandate is suddenly a tool of the elites.

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Notyours's avatar

I'm pretty sure you mean "a part" and not "apart". Although I agree with the latter as used in that sentence.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This makes a whole lot of sense to me.👍

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randall stoehr's avatar

Orange man get out of limelight...while getting is good. Citrus has a shelf life!

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Fortified City's avatar

That’s a disrespectful comment and I don’t agree with you.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Free speech/opinion/right to vote! Still a priority in America! At least it used to be. Sigh....

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Fortified City's avatar

Yep so is agreeing and disagreeing

But calling Trump orange man reflects poorly on you.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Do you believe in term limits?

We really ought not let one guy have more gravitational pull then they know how to handle. Exec privilege's bad enough.

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Fortified City's avatar

Yes I agree

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randall stoehr's avatar

I know...I know but it's just so darn new and cute.

Plus childish!

Emphasis on childish.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He’s said some really stupid stuff lately and just needs to retire

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yes - this is just too important, and he just can't get out of his own way.

...... or outta his mouth's way.

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Fortified City's avatar

Yes “so sad”

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Turfseer's avatar

Trump allowed Pfauci to take over the presidency. Trump still pushes vaccines and is pro-Big Pharma.

Just Too Good to be True. “Straight shooter” advice on vaccination for the brainwashed in song. https://turfseer.substack.com/p/just-too-good-to-be-true

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Deb's avatar

I agree with your assessment about those who hate Trump. They are afraid of him. He can't be bought and he truly loves America and her people!!! I also agree with you about Governor DeSantis. He is doing so much good for the state of Florida, and maybe, just maybe, how no-nonsense style of governing will be embraced by more states!!!!

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Ontological Shock's avatar

He's a role model for other governors and an inspiration to the states who want to be free.

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daverkb's avatar

I hope DeSantis stay governor of Florida! First, a lighthouse state to the rest of the country. And second, DeSantis has more control in Florida over 'the template' than elsewhere. I.e., the Imperial City on the Potomac is the perfect scene of the crime for killing (Seth Rich) and destroying careers (Trump, J6, Russia, Russia, Russia ... and all that).

As to the Radical Wokies backing and pushing DeSantis, maybe to sow distension in our ranks? But really, actions speak louder than words and in the actions department DeSantis has been awesome formidable along with Surgeon General Ladapo. And God shed is Grace on the great state of Florida!

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SusanMc's avatar

DeSantis is an awesome governor for sure; wish more governors would copy his template. He’s valuable where he is; hope he stays there, seasons, then runs in 2028.

Trump with his faults is the one to continue fighting the deep state as the New York street fighter he is. He entered the WH savvy in many aspects but naive in ways of political machinations (who to trust starting w/ chief of staff, etc.). He trusted the CDC, NIH ..... now he knows.

He’ll still be a wrecking ball of the establishment which hates him. Give him his 4 yrs. taken from him & us. THEN DeSantis.... by then we’ll know more about him & his associates, donors, backers.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Nailed it!

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

Right on!!!!

Trump, if he gets his due of the Presidency, will rip some new a$$holes for sure. There will be no more nicey, nicey to this pos government and TPTB know this. 2024 is going to be a headroller.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

From the moment I saw Jeb Bush standing behind DeSantis at one of his rallies, I knew the game was on. In order to run a campaign in these days, it takes millions. Fortunately, Trump had millions and could launch and run a campaign without the support of donations and payback. The left hated that!!! And the people loved it!! DeSantis doesn’t have that kind of money, so he will have to rely on donations from big money. I’ve said it before - the MAGA army will not support anyone else, DeSantis included. That is a huge number and DeSantis would be a fool to challenge that. He will need them when he finally decides to run. It would be damaging to his future career to fail to win a primary. There’s something about having a loss in your history. Rivals tend to use it to their advantage. They don’t need much to bash their opponents, but why give them more ammunition. There are many people who’ve been enlisted to bad-mouth Trump and push DeSantis for 2024. That is nothing new. Ignore them and let Trump come and finish the job he started. DeSantis is young enough and can rely on a strong future WITH Trump behind him.

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SusanMc's avatar

Well thought out & expressed

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I read Soros’ comment; in my mind it wasn’t an endorsement.

I’ve also read all the bashing of DeSantis at CTH. But Sundance there seems to be a complete Trump acolyte.

Nobody is afraid of Trump. Whether by choice or being bamboozled

- he surrounded himself with deep state actors

- he caved twice on his demand for money for the border wall

- he pushed and still pushes the vaxxines

- he’s got the ego of a teenage boy

I could go on, but there’s really no need.

Besides, if you still think your vote counts for anything, you’re high on hopium and should stay away from operating machinery.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Interesting take. Not necessarily wrong either. I will say that even though I know our votes don’t matter at this point…I will continue to vote because it is my right as a citizen and I choose not to lay down, roll over and just hand them their selection without a fight.

As for fear of Trump…how else do you explain their complete hatred of him and their absolute disdain and smearing of him to make sure he never gets in office again? They have investigated him for the most stupidest things and put him through the ringer. If he weren’t a threat they wouldn’t care and they’d say bring it on. They do not want Trump at all costs. There has to be a reason for that as well.

I don’t quite understand why he didn’t clean house of all those rinos either. Except he had no way of knowing how corrupt there were until they shown their true colors. Idk.

Trump did a lot of good things and he did it with the evil (including rinos) fighting him every inch of the way. They backstabbed him, tried to frame him and held nothing back. He did not do it perfectly and no, I don’t like his ego. But if you were fighting the demons and criminality that he was I bet you’d not have done it all perfect. How do you fight an enemy that follows no moral or ethical set of rules or who doesn’t even have a conscience?

I also thinks he fights on some things when he doesn’t need to (like DeSantis). There are pros and cons for both people. I will not pick a side until I’m forced to. We’ll see how this plays out. I’m taking Jeff’s advice and just waiting to see what happens before I jump on anything.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Everyone in this thread makes good points, well, almost everyone. What we have to keep in mind is that the globalists want to sow discord in the enemy camp. We must present a united front. Both Ron and Don are part of that front.

Also, we must remember that regardless of who runs in 2024, we will not win. Stop and think! You know the elections are rigged. I think whatever happens in the next two years especially in regards to Trump and DeSantis, it's gonna surprise us.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

And that is why we need to rise up and make ourselves heard and take our country back when it is lost to another traitor. It is our right. Those people we elected and those (s)elected are not doing their jobs for the American people, but are only doing for themselves. When the 2024 election rolls around, we all know this entire country is now fed up, more than ever before, and more awake that ever before, that if the demoncrats were to win the presidential election, it will prove it was rigged. There is no way all the masses will believe it. We need to be like them, but in a good way: loud, proud and obnoxious. Get in their faces. Bully our way up to the front. I think we are capable of growing a set and outdoing them in this game and doing it with morality. Jesus got angry, I think it's okay (expected) if we do too.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

You’re not wrong 😉

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Sherry's avatar

Absolutely agree! But I think DeSantis could do more good here in Florida so I hope he finishes his term. What a great governor! And he has had the guts to fight against the covid baloney. I love Trump but hate hearing him attack my governor.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I think it’s a ploy and a scenario that both of them have agreed upon. You can see the body language between them. The comments don’t seem to rattle DeSantis and he NEVER fights back. What he can look forward to is that same dogged-determination by Trump’s support of him when he finally decides to run.

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Jay Horton's avatar

"you’re high on hopium" total gold AT, just gold!

Later Jay

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Don’t give him anymore encouragement.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I don’t know who you are but I will tell you that you’ve given us nothing but hopelessness when reading your comment. Trump bad; your vote worthless. Anyone who wants to influence others must give viable options. You haven’t named an alternative. That small bit aside, if you give credence to anything Soros says tells me a lot about you.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I’m sure we’re a lot alike. I’d hazard our main difference is that I’m neither optimist nor pessimist, I’m a realist.

I’m sure your pretty up to date on the news, and have been for some time. The results of “elections” since, at least, 2018 have been clear enough to me. I live in Orange County, CA, a forever conservative county, and watched as they kept counting and recounting votes until the county was no longer conservative. There’s not a snowball’s chance in he!! that Biden “won” 2020. The 2022 “red wave” “failed to materialize”.

Please.

As for options, my friend, I’ve posted the only option I see here there and everywhere for a long long time. I probably sent my 1st letter to the editor before I was a teenager. I’m 68 now.

I hate break it to you - NOBODY IS RIDING IN ON A WHITE HORSE TO SAVE US! Not DeSantis, not Trump - no one. If Liberty is to be preserved for our progeny, after a millennias long struggle from serfs in the mud to free and sovereign citizens, it is up to us. It will be difficult, bloody and the outcome is uncertain. BUT, as a realist, I can see that the outcome of our current fearful and restrained path is lives of hellish desperation for our children, grandchildren and generations to follow in a world devoid of Freedom and the opportunity they deserve.

As for giving Soros any credence, as Glenn Beck has advised for years of these tyrants - take them at their word.

/rant

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Sorry. We are nothing alike. First of all, I would never live in California and if you still do you are neither a pessimist nor an optimist; you’re a masochist. I will say this. We need a leader and the only one in view that has a chance of making a change is Trump. We’ve “begun” with a Republican Congress. Our eyes are opening. “Have a nice day.”

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Concerned mom's avatar

Sunnydaze, you read my mind!!!

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Turfseer's avatar

Who knows if any Republican can come close to winning with these easily manipulated voting machines.

THE VIRUS IS MY GOD. The “virus” is claimed to have invaded a town in the old west and soon worshiped as a new idol among the populace: Watch the music video here: https://turfseer.substack.com/p/the-virus-is-my-god. Subscribe to Turfseer’s Newsletter. Songs, Music videos and more.

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