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James Goodrich's avatar

My wife works in the operating room at a major Boston Hospital. It’s incredible how leftist employees, you know the ultra tolerant, must bleed their political emotions into the work place. My wife is not one to run to the office and complain about blatant biases being spewed by uncontrollable Trump deranged psychopaths, she handles it in her own sledgehammer fashion. But this, as many conflicts, shouldn’t be left for an employee to have to deal with. Bias, any bias, racial, gendered, political is a problem and believe me it’s a challenge too management in a disciplined workplace. I’ve watched for decades, management does not want to deal with these types of problems.

All conservatives and for that matter all of America has had to deal with these bigoted political biases from the insane TDS left throughout the reign of Obama, Joe Biden and as we see it is only escalating.

Leftists are defined by their rude arrogant intimidation tactics, they’re psychological bullies. They push their liberal mental disorder agenda onto everyone around them, workplace or no workplace. It’s incredible to see these extremely educated coordinators and managers with much less OR experience come up against a tough 40 year experienced nurse with unique work and life experiences.

So here we are again, another treasonous futile plot to take down a dually elected president with their lies. They can’t accept the will of the people or the 2024 election results. They are incapable of living in an American style Free society. Notice and as usual, they have no plan to help Americans get ahead. They have no plans or ideas to fund Homeland Security. They have no ideas or plans to make things better for their constituents, they only have plans to tear this great country, America, in half again and if they have their way sit back and watch as its once great cities are burnt to the ground again as good communists do. They have nothing at all to run on. God is watching, shame on all of you. J.Goodrich

dancingtime's avatar

We no longer have polite society but the rules at work used to have taboo subjects off office general talk: sex, religion, and politics. What your wife is working in is called a "hostile work environment" and, imho, she has a basis for complaint. Note that, in today's work places, there are a minimum of professionals who can actually comprehend the concept.

Fiat Lux's avatar

You will need a lot more proof and damages to affect any sort of winnable case when the leftists control all the levers. Having been the victim of a 5-year reign of terror by my liberal supervisor- I watched as they simply allowed her (friends, HR, co-workers) political intrusions and bias into my work life. We all know what it feels like to work in a hostile work environment but it's an entirely different animal to prove it and win.

It's like communism. They invite you in but you have to shoot your way out.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Dancingtime, you may enjoy my article on how we need to bring back a positive culture as right now, our current culture is so immoral: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/we-dont-have-a-political-problem

Fiat Lux's avatar

Your blog wouldn't let me post this comment. So I will do it here Franklin.

Loved the post. Love the ideas. Unfortunately, the 70's, 80's, and 90's aren't ever coming back. I'm ok with it. It's like being 65 and wishing you could be 30.

Last week I watched the first three episodes of the Andy Griffith Show. Filmed in late 1960, Ron Howard was 6 years old. It was delightful not because I hope to return to those simpler times and values- but because I remember it being that way. I lived it.

No one really warns you about this part of adulthood. The part where you feel homesick not for a home but for a moment in time. A version of life that doesn't exist anymore. A place you can't return to, and a feeling you didn't know you'd miss so much until it was gone.

I bet this very same thing was talked about around fires and teepees by the plains Indians.

Ron Canyon's avatar

“Cultural change starts at the individual level: how you live, what you consume, how you treat people.” This takeaway really rocks.

AngelaK's avatar

Yes, but do not underestimate the influence of entertainment.

CStone's avatar

So immortal, or so immoral?

Karen Bandy's avatar

Good catch, they do seem to be immortal… their concepts at least go on and on, and of course we know they are immoral.

CStone's avatar

Well…..the serpent was in the garden…..in the very beginning.

Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Immortal or immoral?

Let's hope it's not immortal, lol.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Lets cut to the chase shall we? All can agree that widespread fraud is rampant and revealed

JC likes volunteer he is "just" an attorney.

He regularly advances the concept of "virus" without question.

Mike Stone has an Open Challenge to Virologist with specific science based conditions.

He recently coaxed a couple top tier players into the arena. It is as comical as a C&C edition,

but also seriously pathetic.

Partial Replay below, For the full report Mike Stone Newsletter

Behold// Update 3: An Open Challenge to Virologists

==========================================

### A Game of Cat and Mouse

Mike Stone

Apr 10

In August 2025, virologist Ed Rybicki discovered ViroLIEgy.com after I cited one of his blog posts to provide historical context for my article on “Tobacco Mosaic Virus” (TMV). Rather than engaging with the data, Rybicki took umbrage at being linked and responded with a series of derogatory remarks. Despite my invitation for a professional discussion regarding the article’s merits, he chose to maintain this tone across multiple comment sections and his own blog, while systematically ignoring the core technical questions.

In light of this refusal to engage, I issued a formal challenge to Ed Rybicki—and by extension, the entire field of virology: Present the foundational evidence, derived through the scientific method and satisfying Koch’s Postulates, that proves the existence and “pathogenicity” of any “virus.”

At minimum, two straightforward questions must be answered:

1. Do you have verifiable evidence of particles—presumed to be “viruses”—that have been directly purified and isolated from the fluids of a sick human or animal, without the use of cell culturing, and then confirmed through electron microscopy and biochemical analysis?

2. Do you have evidence that these same purified and isolated particles have been proven “pathogenic” in a natural manner, through strict adherence to the scientific method and satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates?

I pointed out that if one wishes to directly prove the hypothesis that an invisible microbe within a host causes disease, the strongest scientific proof would require demonstrating that:

1. The microbe actually exists directly in the fluids of sick hosts but not in the fluids of healthy hosts.

2. The specific microbe is purified, isolated, and identified via electron microscopy as a valid independent variable prior to experimentation (known as time order: the cause must exist before the effect).

3. The microbe is introduced into a healthy host in the manner proposed by the hypothesis (via aerosolization, ingestion, etc.) as the mode of “infection.”

4. The specific disease associated with the microbe is reproduced following this introduction.

5. The disease is transmissible from a sick host to a healthy host in the hypothesized manner (e.g., through close contact, coughing, sneezing, etc.).

6. After transmission, the same microbe can be purified and isolated from the fluids of the newly sickened host and confirmed.

7. This process must be repeated with a large sample size with proper control experiments, and the results must be independently reproduced by other researchers.

This challenge has stood since August 19, 2025. While a few virologists surfaced in September and October, the results were underwhelming. Ed Rybicki eventually returned in the final update, yet he again bypassed the technical specifics of the challenge, offering dismissals rather than a logical counterargument.

After that, the trail went cold, as there had not been any serious contenders to write home about.

The closest was Kelly Goodman, PhD, a microbiologist who, along with providing her own commentary about me, claimed that she had “handled live virus,” and had “cultured it, isolated it, and watched it produce disease in cells.”

Despite her claims, when presented with the same challenge, the response was nothing but silence.

Thus, the trail went cold once again.

However, it did not stay that way for long. Just a few days later—on April 1st, to be exact—a new contender stepped up to the plate with a comment on my April Fools’ Day post on Facebook.

If I can toot my own horn for a moment, the joke was that virologists had finally purified and isolated a “virus” directly from human samples without culturing and confirmed it to be “pathogenic” in accordance with the scientific method and the satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates. Many people fell for it because the image was very convincing as a news story. While great for joking purposes, it also serves as a somewhat unsettling example of how easily AI can be used to fool us.

FOR THE REAL ENTERTAINMENT, CHECK OUT THE FULL ARTICLE

This will open some sleepy eyes... while poking large holes in World Views

https://viroliegynewsletter.substack.com/p/update-3-an-open-challenge-to-virologists/comments?publication_id=1054477&post_id=193101302&isFreemail=true&comments=true&action=post-comment&r=2kpb1z&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Lisa's avatar

I don't know if you are aware that Boston is one of the largest Luciferian strongholds, the oldest in the Nation. Boston has underground and underwater training facilities for the Luciferians who are represented in the states as the highest levels of the Jesuits, the Kabbalists/Sanhedrin, the Satanic church, the Mormon church, the Freemasons and ALL Freemasonic affiliates. They are ALL ONE COHESIVE GROUP. They have their own "sovereign military" whose largest training facility is secretly operating under Boston. Boston's Chinese Mayor is a Luciferian picked for the position. She grew up in "the system" FOR that position. All of this group work together, without the lower levels having a 'clue' what they are supporting at the top.

Lori's avatar

Every blue state is a Luciferian stronghold. There is no other explanation for what goes on, is accepted and endorsed in those states.

Janet's avatar

I want to suggest that many times if the Big Blue City wasn’t squatting in a state, it would be red. Like my state. Don’t blame us all. I’m in a red county. Democrats get much of nothing in my county, but the GOP are nothing to brag about either.

Lori's avatar

I should have been more specific noting the blue sanctuary cities Janet. My bad:{.

Lisa's avatar

It's true. We can thank Bloomberg for much of this. He headed Obama's "think tank" down the street from the WH during Obama's term and then created an organization for Mayors. Nearly every blue city Mayor or RINO Mayor in the country is a member of the "LGBTQ and why, I mean Y", Luciferian agenda and they get invited to special gatherings in alternative countries where they can have anything they want. Then they join the league of 'the honeypot', recorded for "internal use only". Many such Mayors met in Seoul, Korea some years ago, all expenses paid, a secret trip where they literally signed an oath/promise to immediately change the zoning/building that was in progress in their cities to accommodate the Luciferian plan of 15min cities/prison cities and the NWO/Luciferian agenda. They did this without the knowledge or approval of their constituents.

They communicated for years through the "Welcome" signs in the cities. You know, the ones with the brotherhood, society, lodge sigils on them at the entry point of the city. Even the city's sigil has the information on what can be found there in terms of underground or underwater and which financial entity they are bound to within "the system". Whichever lodge is shown to be more boldly accentuated is the one that has the invites/instructions/ directions for the sacrificial ceremonies, "sovereign military" training facilities, the next sex magic orgy parties, etc. Indeed, as farfetched as it sounds it's true, absolutely true AND most of the entrances to these underground facilities are doorways in public works buildings, hospitals, lodges, churches. They were mapped out by the Freemasons when the cities were founded and they are built on the city's 'fountain head' underground, specifically, to sprinkle blood of innocents

into the public drinking water. This is WHY restoration of America's cities through prayer has been so tough. They are defiling the water at its source. They have begun changing the shape of the city sigils from predominantly round to other shapes in the last few years so that less information is so readily available for the rest of us.

The ultimate financial responsibility of "the system" in its entirety are the Sanhedrin. You know, the "Noahide Law" Sanhedrin who have already claimed themselves the "authority" in the USA through our own gov't to enforce those laws, to be the judge and jury of their application, enforcement and punishment for non-compliance.

Sorry, it's a lot, I know and it's all true.

I don't see any other way but to stop all gov't funding of religion which will bring the Jesuits, the Mormons and the Satanists to some kind of reckoning and to abolish the Freemasons, Shriners, Jesters, Order of the Eastern Star, the Audubon Society, Rotary Club and ALL of the Freemasonic affiliated organizations, making them illegal due to the infiltration of our gov't by them, who ALL make OATHS that SUPERSEDE ANY OATH OF OFFICE. "So secret, I can't talk about it". Georgie Bush, Jr. They oath themselves for LIFE and ETERNITY to "be their brothers' keeper". This is WHY NOTHING MAKES SENSE IN OUR GOV'T, COURTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT. They are a fucking swarm of miscreant slaves.

Lisa's avatar

Before any gays or other or their families get their twinkie's in a knot. I don't care who any adult has sex with or how they dress. My entire agenda is the YOUNG and INNOCENT in this world. I don't care how people dress or who they fuck as long as they aren't hurting others and everyone involved is an adult who has made that choice for themselves. Whatever those circumstances are it is up to the individual to reap what is sown, in any case.

Lori's avatar

Ugh bloomberg.

Scott's avatar

Pathetic of you to include the “Mormon church.” Maybe actually look at their beliefs, and more importantly, the actual results of those that adhere to the beliefs. Nothing, and I mean nothing, could be less luciferian.

Matt L.'s avatar
2hEdited

The Mormons I know in real life are kind and upstanding people. I think their belief system and practices are nuts but to each his/her own. Those belief/practices ain’t harming anyone. And they also help keep up America’s birth rate, which we need.

Lisa's avatar

Mormons are like GANGS in the public school system where they have strongholds. The Mormon children are absolutely cruel to children that aren't Mormons and nearly all teachers, principals and boards in their strongholds are Mormons who don't give a fig about the bullying that goes on. One mother I know pulled her daughter out of school because the Mormon children were telling her to kill herself and the Mormon principal said they didn't agree that it was "bullying".

Matt L.'s avatar

Yeah, kids can be cruel. Sorry to hear of Mormon children behaving so badly. I’m speaking about Mormon adults. Every group does have its cliques. The Mormon clique is benign IMO.

Lisa's avatar

It isn't just "kids can be cruel". It is the preservation of so-called "religious authority, power, control and dominion" and the "strongholds" of this 'performance' that are resounding all over the country under the MORMON DECREE. I can appreciate that you may be a good, wholesome Mormon, but, if that's the case, you weren't born INTO that system where the "rules of engagement" and the "agenda" is secret, private and very different than what you can or will wrap your head around. Don't worry others will do it for you.

It isn't different than Islam, really, and Islam is in bed underground with the Sanhedrin. They are ALL operating under the same Luciferian agenda. Where do you think the "polygamy" in the Mormon church came from? The ties are deep and old and they have remained so because people like you take it all at "face value" and have a "hill to die on". Like I said, the upper echelon of all of these entities have a lower echelon that are practically a 'militaristic protectorate'.

The good in people will survive all of it. You won't be able to "unsee" it, now. It will be everywhere and you will go through your own crisis of conscience. Everybody does, in the beginning. God Bless You!

Lori's avatar

Watch the Man in America with JR Sweet and his MK Ultra/Mormon circumstances. What was done to him was depraved or check his website.

https://mormonmonarch.com/

Lisa's avatar

Thank you for sharing!

Lisa's avatar
2hEdited

I'm sorry but the Leadership of the Mormon Church are Luciferians. They use the lower levels, like yourself, as their PROTECTORATE. I FEEL NO SHAME for telling people the truth. By the way, the MORMONS are the ones who control the Pharmaceutical arm of the Luciferian system. Indeed, the pharmaceutical "agency" in "the system" is under the Luciferian Mormons.

I have worked with severely, ritually abused people in my career and you know the worst stories I heard happened in the basements of the Mormon churches and the Freemasonic lodges. You just keep being the wheel for the Luciferian agenda. If you had any discernment than you would know something is amiss.

Lori's avatar

Watch the Man in America with JR Sweet and his MK Ultra/Mormon circumstances. What was done to him was depraved or check his website.

https://mormonmonarch.com/

My Favorite Things's avatar

They are okay with polygamy. That is evil right there. Also, wasn’t their leader sent to prison for heinous crimes against women and children?

Mike Ware's avatar

Beg to differ, BIGLY.

CaplT's avatar
22mEdited

One could say the same about Catholicism/Catholics vs the bad circle within the Jesuits. But the d infiltrates everywhere.

Lori's avatar

Watch the Man in America with JR Sweet and his MK Ultra/Mormon circumstances. What was done to him was depraved or check his website.

https://mormonmonarch.com/

CStone's avatar

Also the headquarters, is it not, of the ‘Christian Scientists’? Where it was founded?

Demeisen's avatar

You almost had me until you claimed they were actually able to complete a complex construction project in Boston, leave alone underground.

Lisa's avatar
2hEdited

In Boston most of this stuff was built many, many years ago. You probably wouldn't believe that there is a "bullet train" that travels UNDERGROUND from L.A. to NY and they have hubs in Boston, Chicago, Denver and a number of other large cities. They've been at it for many years and there is much, much more that you don't know and won't believe. I'm just the messenger.

My Favorite Things's avatar

Lisa,

It would be impossible hide such a train from the public. Can you provide any proof of its existence?

Mary Mc's avatar

She must be on a bunch of accounts on Telegram or something similar.

🙄

Lisa's avatar

"She", you mean ME, Mary Mc. You could ask before making your assumptions. No, the answer to your assumption is NO, I don't.

You don't make a lasting impression with your shallow words.

Lisa's avatar

I don't need to. It's all coming out soon and while you and many others that enjoy calling me "delusional" will be in a listless fog upon hearing the truth, and this is the least of it, I'll still be working for the children and the innocent in this world. It takes time for the nervous system to grasp the level of evil that lives in this world and the number of people who have become it and what they did it for. It's going to be a real shitshow.

David K Thiel's avatar

You almost had me until this claim.

Lisa's avatar

I don't need you to believe me. You'll think of me, again, in the offing.

Susan Matthiesen's avatar

Half-Jewish, raised Protestant, now Latin Rite Catholic (the ones the Biden admin investigated) here. Sounds like you've been taken in by SDA end of world "literature". While the Jesuits are nuts these days and Francis was a Jesuit and I did not like him, your misunderstanding of the Jesuits in general is misleading. For a better understanding read former Jesuit Malachi Martin's "The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church".

Lisa's avatar

The reason the former Pope got the position was because he was a prolific child sex trafficker. He "won" the position by those "works". He was the LEADER of the JESUITS. HELLO????

The Jesuit Catholic Services were the ones that arranged for thousands of undocumented children to be "moved" out of Central America and Mexico into the USA where they promptly "disappeared".

I'm not being misleading. I'm current on the affairs.

How do you reconcile that the LEADER of the Jesuits, whose "audience hall" has a VIPER embedded into the architecture, complete with FANGS, who, literally, performed Easter Sunday Mass in Latin PRAISING LUCIFER....YES....PRAISING LUCIFER and then, he tried to change The Lord's Prayer and calling me "misleading". It's laughable and seems as though you've been through the "ranks" of delusion by your own seeking. Bravo! P.S. I have no idea what SDA is.

Susan Matthiesen's avatar

SDA = Seventh-day-Adventists

Susan Matthiesen's avatar

One would think that since you're an expert on Modernism in the Catholic Church you would equally know what "SDA" means. However your sights are set on defaming the Catholic Church, not any other. Sigh. Anyway, Modernism and VII (Vatican II) are the reasons I go to the Traditional Latin Mass of 2000 years, not the Novus Ordo Mass (Mass of VI...Vatican II).

Lisa's avatar
1hEdited

I don't know anything about that and do you see what you did there? It's like the Jesuits they aren't HOLY they are full of holes.

Susan Matthiesen's avatar

There are yet more than a few good Jesuits following the rule of St Ignatius - - - as is told in the book I referenced above. You are confused by today's optics of sinners (some trying to do good, some doing evil) and the Divine Revelation of Christ to His Church. The Divine is always eternal while sinners (like you and I) run the Church. I try to escape the liberality of VII by going to the Ancient Mass which liberals for centuries have tried to ban. Why do you think the Biden Administration investigated people at the church with the very Mass that I go to? They didn't investigate Protestant Churches. Nor the VII Church.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Great comment, but "bullies" not "bully's".

You can say "The bully's shoelace was undone" meaning the shoelace belonged to that bully. But the plural of bully is bullies, as in families, cherries, and other nouns that end in "y".

James Goodrich's avatar

👍 I will fix TY!!

K Web's avatar

Also since we’re correcting mistakes it should be “duly elected” not “duelly”. :)

CStone's avatar

Maybe we should go back to duels😂.

Lori's avatar

But James they do have plans; to ruin America, replace white Americans and celebrate fraud at every turn lining their pockets.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

They toe the WEF/Transnational gangsters agenda as witless and useful idiots and are totally oblivious to the damage they cause to this country. They worship the captured MSM and point to it as truth.

Nick Luca's avatar

In the last month, we saw a very frustrated President Trump, because the very slow process of getting justice, reconning, retribution, of the EVIL WORK, of some of our fellow Americans: political LIE/FRAUD, legal LIE/FRAUD, emigration LIE/FRAUD, financial LIE/FRAUD, COVID LIES/FRAUDS, climate change LIE/FRAUD.

As an expression of this frustration, he removed 2 cabinet Secretaries: Kristy Noem and Pam Bondi.

The President correctly responded to a real need. We have now, a government “DEPARTMENT OF FRAUD” and a “Czar of Fraud”, Vice president Vance. I know of no country with such determined approach.

We, the people, for the last 6 years, are also VERY, VERY, VERY, frustrated with the same issues.

But, most importantly, God Himself is frustrated for centuries with us, “because SENTENCE against EVIL WORK is not EXECUTED SPEEDILY”, AND, AS RESULT, THE EVEL WORK CONTINUES…….

Ecclesiastes 8:11 “Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil”. This is cause and effect!

It is about time, the whole Administration and American Nation, to return to The Truth Himself, The Lord God Jesus Christ.

The nation is frustrated “because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily”, BECAUSE OF THE DELAY IN SERVING JUSTICE, RETRIBUTION. JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED.

This apply to all LIES/FRAUDS I mentioned above.

But 2 of them are TOTALLY ignored and outstanding: COVID LIES/FRAUDS, and climate change LIE/FRAUD.

COVID LIES/FRAUDS, are ignored, justice and retribution delayed AND NOT EXECUTED SPEEDILY, and treated with gloves, neglecting the estimated 31 million death worldwide, WHO CANNOT SPEAK, while the perpetrators continue to be vocal and insolent. THERE IS NO WORD OF REPENTANCE/CONTRITION/REMORSE FROM THE PERPETRATORS.

In 2020-2024 President Trump was lied to, by CDC, FDA, NIH, and the Americans were forced again into SLAVARY (as, correctly, attorney Childers, FIRST remarked), because of mandates.

CLIMATE CHANGE LIE/FRAUD, ignores as I speak, all President Trump’s public orders and statements, starting with USAF, who in Surprise and Buckeye, AZ, daily pollutes the sky, by spraying chemicals untested for safety, daily polluting in plain sight the air we breathe, and blocking the sun light we need, as retired people. We cannot move elsewhere as seniors!

In DC this does not happen, and in Florida and other 10 States, the Legislatures stopped this madness.

We are not killed now with the jab, we are killed now, slowly, by sky spraying daily, by USAF.

THIS DOES NOT MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN, Mr. President.

As AMERICANS, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I plead for your help, and NOW.

And, Mr. President, as Commander in Chief, please, please, order NOW, that USAF stop spraying the sky. It is in your executive power, and can be corrected with your written order, to Secretary Hegseth.

Emumundo's avatar

They are 100% spraying in Florida. Since November it’s been almost every single day!! Most people still don’t understand that these are not normal weather patterns. We voted to stop this, and DeSantis vowed to arrest any pilot spraying, but I’ve never seen so much spraying as I’ve seen since late last year continuing to today!!! It makes me so angry. I live in Central Florida. It would be nice if the governor tried to put a stop to it.

Gabriella's avatar

Seeing the same thing here in California. Tons of lines in the sky all this year so far.

Lori's avatar

I believe it is DARPA, the feds, not the state.

CStone's avatar

We were in Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and Kentucky last week. Chem trails every day. It seems that, whatever they’re spraying is causing it to NOT rain in its due season. I have a feeling a time of drought may be coming which may cause widespread famine. I pray not.

But we seem to be in the second half of the promises of God to a disobedient people talked about in Deuteronomy 28. It’s the ‘Find Out’ portion. The whole chapter is promises. Both the good and the bad.

Lori's avatar

As I remind God, perhaps He should have quit on the 5th day. Would have saved Him much grief and aggravation and then sweet Jesus would never had to be tortured and crucified.

CL Shoemake's avatar

Very well said and sadly, incredibly accurate, Mr Goodrich. May God help us to be wise and bold in declaring His truths. 🙏

Gym+Fritz's avatar

This appears to be the exact same long comment that was posted on Malone News, by Goodrich this morning. It is somewhat generic and multi-purposed and that bothers me.

James Goodrich's avatar

I do often share comments I write on different sub stacks I subscribe to, is there a rule against this? Saying my comment is generic is ridiculous also. I don’t think generically people here or any where on sub stack have an OR wife that worked in major hospitals for 40 years in the heart of medicine, my opinion, Boston. I could tell you a thousand non generic comments about things that happened at those hospital some throughout COVID and even the Boston Bombing. Let me ask you a question officer, why do you care if I share my written comment with other subscribers on different sub stacks? People I’ve known for years. I can never understand, with everything going on in today’s world, that someone would take time out of their life to criticize a single comment on a sub stack. Could you please post the sub stack rule book? I’ve never seen it.

Lori's avatar

Out of all the things to be bothered by, this should not be one of them. Save your bother for the huge stuff.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Lets cut to the chase shall we? All can agree that widespread fraud is rampant and revealed

JC likes volunteer he is "just" an attorney.

He regularly advances the concept of "virus" without question.

Mike Stone has an Open Challenge to Virologist with specific science based conditions.

He recently coaxed a couple top tier players into the arena. It is as comical as a C&C edition,

but also seriously pathetic.

Partial Replay below, For the full report Mike Stone Newsletter

Behold// Update 3: An Open Challenge to Virologists

==========================================

### A Game of Cat and Mouse

Mike Stone

Apr 10

In August 2025, virologist Ed Rybicki discovered ViroLIEgy.com after I cited one of his blog posts to provide historical context for my article on “Tobacco Mosaic Virus” (TMV). Rather than engaging with the data, Rybicki took umbrage at being linked and responded with a series of derogatory remarks. Despite my invitation for a professional discussion regarding the article’s merits, he chose to maintain this tone across multiple comment sections and his own blog, while systematically ignoring the core technical questions.

In light of this refusal to engage, I issued a formal challenge to Ed Rybicki—and by extension, the entire field of virology: Present the foundational evidence, derived through the scientific method and satisfying Koch’s Postulates, that proves the existence and “pathogenicity” of any “virus.”

At minimum, two straightforward questions must be answered:

1. Do you have verifiable evidence of particles—presumed to be “viruses”—that have been directly purified and isolated from the fluids of a sick human or animal, without the use of cell culturing, and then confirmed through electron microscopy and biochemical analysis?

2. Do you have evidence that these same purified and isolated particles have been proven “pathogenic” in a natural manner, through strict adherence to the scientific method and satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates?

I pointed out that if one wishes to directly prove the hypothesis that an invisible microbe within a host causes disease, the strongest scientific proof would require demonstrating that:

1. The microbe actually exists directly in the fluids of sick hosts but not in the fluids of healthy hosts.

2. The specific microbe is purified, isolated, and identified via electron microscopy as a valid independent variable prior to experimentation (known as time order: the cause must exist before the effect).

3. The microbe is introduced into a healthy host in the manner proposed by the hypothesis (via aerosolization, ingestion, etc.) as the mode of “infection.”

4. The specific disease associated with the microbe is reproduced following this introduction.

5. The disease is transmissible from a sick host to a healthy host in the hypothesized manner (e.g., through close contact, coughing, sneezing, etc.).

6. After transmission, the same microbe can be purified and isolated from the fluids of the newly sickened host and confirmed.

7. This process must be repeated with a large sample size with proper control experiments, and the results must be independently reproduced by other researchers.

This challenge has stood since August 19, 2025. While a few virologists surfaced in September and October, the results were underwhelming. Ed Rybicki eventually returned in the final update, yet he again bypassed the technical specifics of the challenge, offering dismissals rather than a logical counterargument.

After that, the trail went cold, as there had not been any serious contenders to write home about.

The closest was Kelly Goodman, PhD, a microbiologist who, along with providing her own commentary about me, claimed that she had “handled live virus,” and had “cultured it, isolated it, and watched it produce disease in cells.”

Despite her claims, when presented with the same challenge, the response was nothing but silence.

Thus, the trail went cold once again.

However, it did not stay that way for long. Just a few days later—on April 1st, to be exact—a new contender stepped up to the plate with a comment on my April Fools’ Day post on Facebook.

If I can toot my own horn for a moment, the joke was that virologists had finally purified and isolated a “virus” directly from human samples without culturing and confirmed it to be “pathogenic” in accordance with the scientific method and the satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates. Many people fell for it because the image was very convincing as a news story. While great for joking purposes, it also serves as a somewhat unsettling example of how easily AI can be used to fool us.

FOR THE REAL ENTERTAINMENT, CHECK OUT THE FULL ARTICLE

This will open some sleepy eyes... while poking large holes in World Views

https://viroliegynewsletter.substack.com/p/update-3-an-open-challenge-to-virologists/comments?publication_id=1054477&post_id=193101302&isFreemail=true&comments=true&action=post-comment&r=2kpb1z&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Truth Seeker's avatar

Some insane lefty docs and nurses openly suggest killing patients who say anything in support of DJT. For that and other reasons (including forced Vax) most hospitals are very dangerous...

Truth Seeker's avatar

Sustack is a linear comment format. It buries late comment, which means huge time differences in publication cause some to be buried...

Truth Seeker's avatar

Lets cut to the chase shall we? All can agree that widespread fraud is rampant and revealed

JC likes volunteer he is "just" an attorney.

He regularly advances the concept of "virus" without question.

Mike Stone has an Open Challenge to Virologist with specific science based conditions.

He recently coaxed a couple top tier players into the arena. It is as comical as a C&C edition,

but also seriously pathetic.

Partial Replay below, For the full report Mike Stone Newsletter

Behold// Update 3: An Open Challenge to Virologists

==========================================

### A Game of Cat and Mouse

Mike Stone

Apr 10

In August 2025, virologist Ed Rybicki discovered ViroLIEgy.com after I cited one of his blog posts to provide historical context for my article on “Tobacco Mosaic Virus” (TMV). Rather than engaging with the data, Rybicki took umbrage at being linked and responded with a series of derogatory remarks. Despite my invitation for a professional discussion regarding the article’s merits, he chose to maintain this tone across multiple comment sections and his own blog, while systematically ignoring the core technical questions.

In light of this refusal to engage, I issued a formal challenge to Ed Rybicki—and by extension, the entire field of virology: Present the foundational evidence, derived through the scientific method and satisfying Koch’s Postulates, that proves the existence and “pathogenicity” of any “virus.”

At minimum, two straightforward questions must be answered:

1. Do you have verifiable evidence of particles—presumed to be “viruses”—that have been directly purified and isolated from the fluids of a sick human or animal, without the use of cell culturing, and then confirmed through electron microscopy and biochemical analysis?

2. Do you have evidence that these same purified and isolated particles have been proven “pathogenic” in a natural manner, through strict adherence to the scientific method and satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates?

I pointed out that if one wishes to directly prove the hypothesis that an invisible microbe within a host causes disease, the strongest scientific proof would require demonstrating that:

1. The microbe actually exists directly in the fluids of sick hosts but not in the fluids of healthy hosts.

2. The specific microbe is purified, isolated, and identified via electron microscopy as a valid independent variable prior to experimentation (known as time order: the cause must exist before the effect).

3. The microbe is introduced into a healthy host in the manner proposed by the hypothesis (via aerosolization, ingestion, etc.) as the mode of “infection.”

4. The specific disease associated with the microbe is reproduced following this introduction.

5. The disease is transmissible from a sick host to a healthy host in the hypothesized manner (e.g., through close contact, coughing, sneezing, etc.).

6. After transmission, the same microbe can be purified and isolated from the fluids of the newly sickened host and confirmed.

7. This process must be repeated with a large sample size with proper control experiments, and the results must be independently reproduced by other researchers.

This challenge has stood since August 19, 2025. While a few virologists surfaced in September and October, the results were underwhelming. Ed Rybicki eventually returned in the final update, yet he again bypassed the technical specifics of the challenge, offering dismissals rather than a logical counterargument.

After that, the trail went cold, as there had not been any serious contenders to write home about.

The closest was Kelly Goodman, PhD, a microbiologist who, along with providing her own commentary about me, claimed that she had “handled live virus,” and had “cultured it, isolated it, and watched it produce disease in cells.”

Despite her claims, when presented with the same challenge, the response was nothing but silence.

Thus, the trail went cold once again.

However, it did not stay that way for long. Just a few days later—on April 1st, to be exact—a new contender stepped up to the plate with a comment on my April Fools’ Day post on Facebook.

If I can toot my own horn for a moment, the joke was that virologists had finally purified and isolated a “virus” directly from human samples without culturing and confirmed it to be “pathogenic” in accordance with the scientific method and the satisfaction of Koch’s Postulates. Many people fell for it because the image was very convincing as a news story. While great for joking purposes, it also serves as a somewhat unsettling example of how easily AI can be used to fool us.

FOR THE REAL ENTERTAINMENT, CHECK OUT THE FULL ARTICLE

This will open some sleepy eyes... while poking large holes in World Views

https://viroliegynewsletter.substack.com/p/update-3-an-open-challenge-to-virologists/comments?publication_id=1054477&post_id=193101302&isFreemail=true&comments=true&action=post-comment&r=2kpb1z&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

CStone's avatar
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I have a feeling you and O’Kanu might enjoy a book based on the prophecies about terrorism. It is by a Rabbi based on current events and Biblical prophecies in the OT.

When he wrote it, he was not a believer in Yeshua. I pray that he has found Him in his studies.

Anyway, the name of the book is:

“Prophecies For The Era of Muslim Terror” A Torah perspective on world events by Rabbi Menachem Kohen.

It truly is an amazing perspective. Made me appreciate the Word even more.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

The words of the LORD are pure words;

As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times.

— Psalm 12:6

He who gives attention to the word will find good,

And blessed is he who trusts in the LORD.

— Proverbs 16:20

The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul;

The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart;

The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever;

The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether.

They are more desirable than gold, yes, than much fine gold;

Sweeter also than honey and the drippings of the honeycomb.

Moreover, by them Your servant is warned;

In keeping them there is great reward.

— Psalm 19:7-11

(NAS)

✝️✝️✝️

CStone's avatar

My precious Mother used to quote this all the time when all of us girls (5 of us) would be doing chores. She would sing of His Greatness and His love.

Sigh

I miss her and Dad.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Beautiful. I have five girls. ❤️Maybe I should have sang to them more while they did chores. 😃

Politico Phil's avatar

Words to live and die by.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Janice!

PatrioticMama's avatar

Thank you, Janice, for the way you select a scripture that fits right in to what Jeff has just churned out. That is your beautiful way of commenting, and it is a blessing.

Shame, shame on those nasty folks and bots of yesterday with their thoughtless and rude comments.

Beckadee's avatar

Beautiful Janice!

MariaABC's avatar

Thank you, Janice! I look forward to your posts every morning. They are a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. God bless you. ♥

Lon Guyland's avatar

“Medicine” is rife with fraud.

Just recently, while experiencing a worrying and very painful condition, I decided to go to the ER. In the 4 hours I waited in the otherwise empty waiting room, the symptoms began to abate and by the time my number was called, they had resolved. I told that to the attending physician and left. Despite not being examined, diagnosed or treated, I got a bill for $750. I requested the medical record for the “encounter” and found that the doctor had entered a note for an examination that NEVER occurred. When I questioned the relevant administrator on how a fake examination could be entered into the records, the answer was essentially “Who cares? It’s paid by the insurance company.”

What are the chances that my episode just happened to be the rare one with “erroneous” records and billing codes? I strongly suspect that these kinds of shenanigans are routine.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Similar circumstance for me years ago. Billed for procedures that never occurred. When I called the insurance company to report the fraudulent billing, they stated it would cost more to fight the billing than pay it 🤦‍♀️.

SO short sighted…if you add up ALL of the fraudulent billings, it would be well worth the fight. Send a message to dishonest docs. And maybe stop the madness.

Fish Whistle's avatar

This very same circumstance has happened to me. I too was amazed that the insurance company had no interest in recovering its losses.

Susie & Security's avatar

Probably because their profits are 100,000x their losses.

Fran Tabor's avatar

Some insurance companies WANT people terrified of high medical expenses.

Susie & Security's avatar

That's infuriating.

RunningLogic's avatar

Also the state insurance commission. Although in some states they may not care either 😕

Melissa S's avatar

I received a statement from the hospital with the listed charges for the birth of my third child. (I don't recall receiving them for the older children.) Thankfully, I took the time to glance at the charges. I didn't know what most of the charges meant, but I noticed that I was being charged for a resuscitation of my baby. I called the billing department and objected to the false charge. Basically, the clerk said, "Oops" and removed the charge. No questions asked. I too expect that these erroneous codes are quite common. And sure, I had insurance. But my co-pay for the fraudulent charge was over a thousand dollars at the time.

Becky's avatar

When my Mom was 92 (she’s 98 now), we went to a dermatology clinic for a skin check. Had quite a long conversation about how amazing it was that at her age she didn’t need anything removed from her skin. When the Medicare documentation arrived weeks later, it showed billing for removal of eight skin irregularities. We called, and the dermatology office insisted the removals had happened. We actually reported fraud to Medicare but never heard back from anyone.

RunningLogic's avatar

It’s almost like you have to record the visit in case you need to have proof of what transpired 😕

NAB's avatar

The brazenness is something to behold. Wow.

J Boss's avatar

Maybe the charge was DISCUSSING the removals that did not occur. Yrs ago, I was charged an additional $250 at a dermatologist appt when we did a review of my entire body. The explanation was that the automated system mined the doctor's notes for billable DIFFERENT topics.

Sent them a f.u. reply and never paid it. Sent a letter to the doc explaining I'd never come back and i'd tell people to avoid her.

About 15 yrs later, went in for some kind of carcinoma that pre-AI told me was common and mostly benign. I reminded her of the note mining/billing s/w, and asked her not to write anything down from our conversation other than the specific, ONE thing. Told her I didn't want to hear ANYTHING that would be billed additionally without prior warning and pricing. In the end, we repeated the entire "baselining" of my skin condition, same as before. This time, no additional billing attempt.

Entire system is rigged against the customers and exploits the docs to steal more money.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Now, with the on vent of computers and copying and pasting, I noticed when I was working as a registered nurse that a lot of the doctors just copied and pasted notes into patients charts that didn’t have anything to do with the patients. I don’t know how many times I actually asked doctors to amend their charting. And that was over 10 years ago, so I’m sure it’s much worse now.

Susie & Security's avatar

When I am able to sit down with a nurse practitioner for all of ten minutes - while never meeting the actual doctor - she spends the bulk of the time typing notes and diagnosis codes (for insurance) and not listening.

Kent's avatar

That's because doctoring is done with software where the diagnostics are performed by a computer program. I noticed the same with my so called Family Physician around 2020, the doctor who I vetted profusely before choosing him as my primary was about as sensitive as a hammer. He asked questions while barely looking at me and typed in my replies.

I was so impressed with the dispassionate discharge of his duties I changed offices immediately disappointed that all of my investigative work choosing him was wasted. The medicare advantage plan network (Humana) of doctors were all about the same, no tangible humanity or care for their trade. Robots. I've yet to find a doctor inside my plan's network to use.

Susie & Security's avatar

Indeed. This is the de facto experience across all medical clinics that I deal with.

Juju's avatar

I started to talk their heads off making sure I get my money’s worth. 😆 If they are going to tune me out I’m going to trap them there to tune me out longer than they would like. Lol

RunningLogic's avatar

😂😂😂😁😁😁

NAB's avatar

I do record review for a law firm and the EMR is a source of much confusion. Auto-population of fields and lazy providers who can't be bothered to amend documentation day to day results in some serious legal difficulties.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Blame Obama. The first thing that Obamacare financed was a massive forcing of all medical providers to switch to computers.

No one liked it, but management had their hands out for their share of the spoils. And most EMRs have boxes to check which limits your ability to record the actual patient complaint, let alone record the symptoms.

Mrs. RW

CitizenA's avatar

Mrs. RW.. So that explains it. My physician who told me he hated computers and would never use one during an exam suddenly one day he had a computer in the exam room, typing away during most of our appointment, and he had it for every exam thereafter. I thought “How odd after what he told me before.”

Also in a candid moment my physician mentioned he was very concerned for the future of his daughter’s life because of the way American was headed. Not sure what he was alluding to exactly but he seemed quite bitter about it.

cat's avatar

yep, years ago when I was still getting mammograms, I saw in the radiologist writeup reference to the biopsies I had gotten. Never had a biopsy there... the entire report was likely copied and pasted and had to be rewritten (re-copied and pasted from a healthier or less-cut-up patient).

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

re: "“Washington is finally trimming a bloated, fraud‑ridden program, and 6% doesn’t sound like nearly enough.”

I do believe this is the beginning of the destruction of the "institutional democracy" these frauds, con men/women, and "elite" have built over decades to destroy the Constitutional Republic many of us hold so dear. And to steal trillions of dollars. THANK YOU GOD FOR SAVING PRESIDENT TRUMP!

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

And if that is not enough Good news, there is this to revel and delight in:

"BREAKING IMPEACHMENT NEWS: The Minnesota House Freedom Caucus has just announced that impeachment hearings for Tim Walz and Keith Ellison will begin next Wednesday, April 15."

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

praise God, now if only the criminals will find them guilty

CMCM's avatar

I doubt that can happen since Dems are in control there, sad to say.

Susie & Security's avatar

And I'll betcha next year, the insane costs of medical care and insurance will be addressed by the administration, another important issue hinging on the midterms results.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

The President is already working on it. Part of his plan is to redirect the funds from the grift operation between congress and insurance companies (under ovomit care) and instead give it directly to Citizens who can then use it to determine what kind of insurance they want. That is magnificent and will force insurers to fight to provide good insurance while ending the grifting between insurance and congress. whoomp whoomp!!

Susie & Security's avatar

I can't wait! My COBRA benefits expire soon, and my new state "marketplace" plan will be almost $900/month, which is - believe it or not - a fantastic price. I'll be happy to see the core unAffordable Care Act repealed.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

And please recall, it was the consummate RINO and deeply corrupt mccain ( i refuse to capitalize his name or refer to him as a Senator) who was the final vote for ovomit care... in effect a piece of shit voting for a piece of shit, not because it was good public policy but because it made him and the rest carry around fat wallets and huge bank accounts.

Susie & Security's avatar

Still waiting for the massive incomes of these lawmakers to be investigated.... I remember years (decades?) ago when I liked McCain.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yeah I had to do cobra & paid $700.00 a month, and than had to do obama care and got screwed single non ill female over $900.00 a month. I would have not used it at all, but than I would have had to pay a fine. Probably for life. Just like the medicare fine in part D if you don't sign up immediately.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Once you enter the billing factory once referred to as a hospital....all bets are off.

Fish Whistle's avatar

My wife's 93 year old grandmother had a PREGNANCY test run or should I say billed by one of her Medicare providers some years ago... The attitude about (paraphrasing) "well, they'll pay for it" does not justify the theft.

Fran Tabor's avatar

Well, Sarah in the Old Testament was 96...so maybe they were ready, just in case after a few centuries history would repeat itself?

Vince's avatar

Large cardiology clinics are also billing factories.

KBB's avatar

We run into the opposite problem as well: not being timely billed for services that were provided. Yesterday at check-in for a routine visit the reception clerk threatened us with cancelling the appointment because her computer showed a past due balance. We bullied our way past her and then later in the day talked to their billing manager who confirmed that the amount due (from January) had never been billed (as of April), that's why it wasn't paid, duh. Left a very bad taste in my mouth to be treated like a deadbeat in front of a waiting room full of strangers.

SHug's avatar

I do hope you spoke with the Office Manager about how you were treated at check in and the details. If not, you could still call them and let them know how unprofessional the reception clerk was.

KBB's avatar

Yes I lodged a formal complaint.

Susie & Security's avatar

One my complaints about insurance is it can literally take a year for them to process a bill. The minimum is three months.

Susie & Security's avatar

Yeh, and who pays for insurance? *We* do. So much fraud.

NAB's avatar

Exactly. "We" are paying for it. Our premiums and deductibles are ridiculous because Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act - HAH!) mandates we cover items the vast majority of people will never utilize like: PrEP drugs for HIV prophylaxis or IUDs for birth control without any cost-sharing or co-pays. For context, PrEP drugs without insurance runs a person about $2000/month. It's just insane.

RunningLogic's avatar

Should be reported for insurance fraud.

Lon Guyland's avatar

I’m on a high deductible plan. The insurance company won’t care.

But I probably should complain to that doctor’s certifying board.

When the administrator called me back they essentially said “The bill is canceled, bye” and hung up, obviously not wanting to hear more questions about how a fake examination was recorded.

RunningLogic's avatar

Report it to your state insurance commission then.

Jules's avatar

There is a lot of built in fluff in Health Insurance. I am now on a Medicare Advantage plan. I get a quartely allowance of 60 USD to buy over the counter stuff health and safety stuff. Maybe that is intended as a diaper subsidy, but most of us are not in need of those yet.

I also get a yearly visit from a health professional. I did it my first year. It's just a checklist event, seems more like a data collection system and a reminder to do all your health screenings and vacinations.

To me it's nice but it's also fluff. Why should the tax payers have to pay for all of this and most of all who is getting this easy money?

RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. Lots of unnecessary and costly things.

cat's avatar

Color me not surprised.

A big savings would happen if Medicare with discontinue the "wellness exam" nonsense. It is pure data collection peppered with the nurse or med assistant doing two measurable things such as BP and weight. The doctor does no touching of the patient. There is no filling of necessary prescriptions. Just data collection of answers to inane questions that are many times, way inappropriate for a medical environment.

As part of this game, many doctors, after putting the patient through the annual humiliation of playing this game, then move on to maybe a regular doctor visit, if the doctor is kind enough to not make this doctor visit be a second appointment. The billing reflects both the "wellness exam" and the office visit.

It doesn't matter if the patient wants to forego the "wellness exam" and just get a regular physical and prescriptions filled. Nope, the Medicare patient MUST schedule and sit through the "wellness exam" first. 😡

Susan Matthiesen's avatar

Last year I was billed for 2 bogus things which the insurance company didn't pay and that would have to come out of my pocket. I went to the doctor's office and told them to take the charges off my bill because I intended never to pay sham charges. Ever. They immediately knew that I knew the charges were not genuine and promptly removed them.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

You went into triage and had vitals taken with one of the most experienced nurses in the ED, and you spoke to an attending MD. I’m not sure what he/she included in the note, but I can tell you as an ICU nurse that a simple conversation with a patient gives me a lot of information. In triage you stated one level of pain and with the doctor a different one. I get being irritated at being charged but the hospital has to pay all the bills to keep that ED open: security, admissions desk personnel, triage nurses, ED nurses, restrooms for the waiting room, cleaning personnel, the stocking personnel, and on down the line, not to mention the electric bill. I work at a mid-sized facility and our CEO recently shared that it costs $6.5 million a day to keep our doors open.

I don’t doubt there are places to trim money from our budget, there are everywhere.

I tripped and fell a few months ago and needed up in the ED to get a gash on my forehead checked, cleaned, and stitched. They did start an IV and send labs, too, as that is standard for every fall. I did not get a CT scan of my head done for various reasons. My part of my bill was over $2,000 plus another $1,000 for the ambulance ride.

Lon Guyland's avatar

The note said that the doctor performed an examination of my eyes, ears, nose and throat, determined that my pulse and heart rhythm was normal, that my breathing was regular and clear, that my abdomen displayed no irregularities but that I had diffuse mild discomfort in my lower abdomen. How they were able to know all this in less than the two minutes I spent in their presence without using any instruments or even touching me I guess is the miracle of modern medicine.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Well, your eyes were clear with no drainage (eyes with swelling and drainage are obvious, as well as redness and yellowing,) you were blinking normally during the conversation which means your reflexes are fine to your eyes. Your nose wasn’t draining and you had no cough. The doctor listened to and read what you told the triage nurse, too. Your respiratory rate is very obvious in casual conversation, plus you had a set of vitals taken in triage. They have those numbers. Believe me, when you see someone with increased work of breathing and severe congestion and wheezing, you can hear it and see it without laying a stethoscope to their chest. I still do, though, as it is part of my assessment of patient, and I have caught small changes in one area of a lung that have led to xrays and earlier interventions before things got worse. You reported to the triage nurse about abdominal stuff, I’m thinking, with your original reason for being there, and I would guess that triage nurse asked about bowel regularity/irregularity and location of pain and now you are improved. I hope the triage nurse did press on your abdomen in various places, as that simple exam can help begin a differential diagnosis of various causes of bowel pain and irritation. You told the MD that yourself that you had improved from severe enough pain that you came in to mild enough pain that you are leaving. We do tend to believe patients when they talk to us. A subjective exam listening to the patient is an exam. That experienced Emergency Medicine physician is an expert at very quick objective information collection with conversation, a history, and vitals. They have to be.

Lon Guyland's avatar

Triage nurse took temperature and blood pressure and asked my symptoms. That was all. No stethoscope, no touching. The doctor, in the note, got the symptoms wrong. It was completely fabricated.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Ugh! It makes my head want to explode. My nursing students know to do better than that! I am sorry for your crummy experience and then a huge bill to boot. Well, you will get a patient survey and if you really want to rock the boat, call and ask to speak with their Patient Experience team.

NAB's avatar

Carol, you make good points and clearly your experience as an ICU nurse gives you credibility. I would only add that from a legal perspective, the situation described by Lon would be sticky and that the emergency room doctor in a deposition would be challenged. Regarding the actual billing, I'm sure the coders saw a documented exam and billed accordingly.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Agree!!! 100%!!! I am thankful that I work with doctors that listen to the nurses and also physically assess the patients for themselves. He or she should have done it, as well!

You can also add that the patient here got up and moved, and presumably wasn’t guarding his abdomen, so seeing a patient get up and move is also an exam. There is a lot it all and I would say that a simple conversation doesn’t equate a simple physical exam…feel a pulse, listen to heart/lungs/bowel, and then palpate a bit to confirm nothing more serious may be hiding. I just wanted to point out that the doctor had a lot more information than you would think after a review of everything and a simple conversation.

Lori's avatar

They must be clairvoyant.

Lori's avatar

Are you doing ok since the fall Carol?

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Yes! Just a lovely scar above my left eyebrow!!! And a few OT shifts to cover the bills.

Lori's avatar

As long as you are alright, that is most important. No internal head trauma!

Scars, our battle wounds:}

PhillySpecial's avatar

Jeff, the victims are rightfully called survivors because you will learn that many of the trafficked young women were killed. Pizzagate is real. Pedo networks are real and the people involved are sick twisted Satan worshipping freaks who delight in ritual torture and sacrifice. People like Liz Crokin who has been saying this for decades were called conspiracy nuts. But they were right about it all. Many did not survive and the perpetrators will not survive what's coming

Lone Star's avatar

There is at least one reputable Substack writer and book author who has been reading the released Epstein files who says there were artificially inseminated girls who had their babies removed at birth for “experimental” purposes. The details are grim beyond imagination. The ranch in New Mexico needs a thorough forensic inspection.

liz perez's avatar

This is all why Congressional testimony is so important: they’re under oath.

Whomever does not testify, one can assume is not speaking the truth.

Those who decline were probably doing so for fame & clicks, because they all know “under oath” means prison time if they are untruthful & someone decides to go after them. The potential exposure is too real & serious.

Melania was brilliant.

Cookie Dee's avatar

Under oath does not mean a thing to Godless liars. Who are they swearing to tell the truth to? “So Help Me God” means nothing to people who don’t believe in God.

Kent's avatar

True, so far none of the perjurers of the Obama and Biden administrations have been indicted or sentenced. Its as if taking an oath is of no consequence at all anymore.

liz perez's avatar

It means nothing to them morally, but Melania will be on Todd Blanche to indict them to the max if they lie.

No one likes federal prison, and most importantly, no one like the hundreds of thousands of dollars it takes to pay for defense at the federal level.

Lori's avatar

Sayer Ji did an in depth analysis of all pages released on Epstein. Check out his substack if interested to read it.

Susan G's avatar

It's excellent. I highly recommend.

Proberta's avatar

Why did the Dems NOT release the Epstein files???

Because no one, on EITHER side wants the Epstein files released. There are major Democrats in those files.

So they waited until Trump was in office because Trump can NEVER release a complete Epstein file because his bro Jeff was the elite pimp to the Elites, and Trump had Mar-a-lago and the stable of beautiful young pageant girls, and all his Elite billionaire pedo buddies and Epstein was pimping girls to and from Mar-A-Lago (see Virginia Guiffre vs Prince Andrew, Duke of York),

And even with all the evidence of rape and sexual abuse of children, Jeffrey Epstein still got off with THE LIGHTEST SENTENCE in the state of Florida for sex crimes!

And what about Alexander Acosta, the corrupt State Attorney that let Epstein off, what happened to him???

Trump appointed him Secretary of Labor!

There will NEVER be a complete release of Epstein files

Johnny-O's avatar

Can you imagine if Trump had a (D) behind his name and how the crowd here would be acting in this context? I'm so tired of double standards. All these people should be investigated, and those found guilty can rot in hell.

PonyBoy's avatar

Wow, look at this. A tag-team of Proberta and Johnny-O. Two Bots Extraordinaire. Sent to Jeff's wonderful Coffee and Covid site every single morning to create hate and sow division amongst us conservatives who support our President. These two Bots come here and like each other's moronic comments that are the same everyday.

Block these Bots or just shake your head and know this, these Bots were sent here for a reason.

That reason is that the Evil forces that wish to control our every thought, our every action, continue to plot their destruction of our free society and make us bend a knee to their will.

This Evil, will if we allow it, bring back lockdowns, mandatory experimental injections, vaccine passports, CBDC, and more Hate and Division that is humanly possible.

May the Lord Bless each and every one here.

Except all you Bots.

Suzanne's avatar

I’m still waiting to hear what was on Anthony Wiener’s laptop…doesn’t the fbi have it? I agree, all pedos should rot in hell, and anyone closely associated to them (Uma and Killary) must be held to account.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

A day or two ago I saw a couple of post on X claiming Bill Gates recently made the statement that it won't be long before "we" won't need humans. I can't verify he said it but it sounds like something he would say/think.

Johnny-O's avatar

New Mexican authorities were investigating Zorro in 2019 and Trump's DOJ made them back off.

But I'm sure it's all part of this 10D chess.....

Marty Kiner's avatar

Which makes sense as we learn more and more about how Obama holdovers were working to obstruct President Trump’s authority. It’s still going on today as they continue to weed out the obstructionists.

Johnny-O's avatar
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Trump's DOJ by the end of his 1st term were Obama holdovers? Sorry, that is just wrong, and additionally, Trump has now been president for over 5 years and had those files the entire time, and nothing has happened.

Neither party wants the files released. It has turned into a political football. Many on this forum were screaming about them during the campaign and as soon as the narrative shifted, all of the sudden those very same people don't care about it anymore. It's really sad to see how easily people get played. Release the files, investigate, and roll heads.

diana's avatar
4hEdited

Thank you, PhillySpecial! Yes, I was rather appalled by this: "And, just a second. I’m sorry, but I must ask: what’s with calling them survivors? None of the victims died."

'Mere' molestation victims, children and even infants, don't have to be *cult* victims to qualify as survivors. Of course, some victims died! But those we do not call "survivors"! They're dead! As to the rest of us, sexual assault in childhood is horrifically common, and the stats you read are pathetically low. Pedo networks are quite real, but the lone opportunist is even more common. 'Sex' with children is rape, a fact we don't acknowledge as a society. And "mere" molestation is not just a crime, it impacts children for the rest of their lives. "Survivor" is a necessary and proud word.

I sincerely hope the perps don't survive what's ahead.

LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

I was a bit surprised at this comment as well. I know Jeff never intends to intentionally hurt the innocent, so I'm just going to chalk this up to a thoughtless moment on his part - but ANYONE who has been through sexual abuse is absolutely a survivor. There's SO MUCH MORE than just the physical abuse that must be overcome. That aspect can heal rather quickly - it's the mental and emotional recovery that can take much longer (if full healing ever comes at all). Maybe survivors really DO need to speak out more so the regular public understands that "survivor" is absolutely the accurate term.

Quiltlady's avatar

I believe Jeff has no daughters. He most likely would have stated that differently if he did.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Came here to say this.

Susan Seas's avatar

It will also separate the “I was a victim until I started working for him“ but now call myself a victim on every TV news show I can get myself onto.

Beckadee's avatar

Like the 'survivor' Lisa Phillips mentioned today who was 21 years old around 2007-09, an aspiring model when she met Epstein and didn't realize what had happened to her until a couple of years ago. These 'survivors' have received money from Epstein's estate and JP Morgan so why they are still bitching and moaning is curious. Hanging around Gloria Allred is my guess. I did see where 4 of the women who helped him and made a plea deal may be required to appear before congress. Regardless, Melania's statement of "under oath" and "sworn testimony" should weed out some if not all. And that's a good thing.

Lisa Runquist's avatar

Getting money is small recompense for being farmed out.

John (jc) Comeau's avatar

Virginia Giuffre, for one. I guess Jeff forgot?

taxpayer's avatar

We really don't know how many died. Maybe we will after some of those code-words are clarified. Anyhow, none of those who died are able to testify.

Susie & Security's avatar

I have to agree with you. Surviving sexual abuse and its self-imposed shame means coming to grips with something inordinately emotionally painful while still being able to function in society.

Lori's avatar

Cathy Obrien just had a interview with Man in America about the CIA grooming her for MK Ultra and what they put her through and used her for and she named elite names. What she and others went through as children is beyond hellish.

Joze's avatar

Rightfully called survivors... Because they? ... Did Not... Survive??? (Check your premise)

CStone's avatar

The statement was that ‘some’ did not survive.

Richard Whitney's avatar

PIzzagate is real, but you are not allowed to talk about it, at all. John Podesta was handed $370 billion under Biden, long after the accusations. Maybe throwing Julian Assange into a London dungeon, and kangaroo courting Alex Jones made people afraid to criticize Podesta's role in laundering clean energy and climate-related funding from the Inflation Reduction Act

You can talk about Epstein as much as you want. No one went to prison for publishing the Epstein files, and no one was accused of murder for talking about him.

I am suspicious of why that is so.

Mrs. RW

Juju's avatar
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The part I have a hard time with is how many of the “survivors” were actually part of the trafficking and are just as responsible for any deaths that occurred. I have a really hard time considering them survivors. They made a choice to do what they did to other girls - when they were over 20/21 yrs of age themselves. That’s old enough to know better.

Then, they took payouts, settlements, hush money, and signed NDAs, and suddenly call themselves survivors? They are political puppets and behave as if they are still being paid behind closed doors.

I don’t doubt some are authentic and deserve to sit before Congress and tell their story, and they deserves to be made whole and see their abusers face justice, but the others are the ones suddenly spinning the politics and saying they don’t want to. Gee I wonder why they stood behind MTG and in the background of other congressional sessions, but won’t stand in front of Congress?

A survivor is not like them.

RJ Rambler's avatar

There is a very fine line between willful and forced into agreement and likely hard to know the truth and genuine caught in the net then trying to get out and not able to. Victims can not rat. Their minds are so twisted especially if they have been abused mentally most of their lives. It takes years of building trust to unravel and untwist. We have a culture of these ppl.

CaplT's avatar

Someone who was a POW is a survivor.

Someone who was traumatically abused is a survivor.

Prison walls still surround them, even after decades behind them.

You missed on this one, Jeff.

Quiltlady's avatar

Many women have been victims of one kind of sexual assault or another.

Even an obscene phone call can be a psychological or emotional assault, although it is not physical. Some are able to put it behind them, but they will never completely forget it.

Anyone who has been traumatized, and survives the incident, is a survivor.

Tonya's avatar

Lawrence Gostin's claim that "vaccines are studied extensively & are safe & effective" is so easily disproven.

Lori's avatar

yup, guy is full of shite.

Tonya's avatar

Thanks for linking the ACIP charter. None of the other "news" sources did.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Nice to see California cooperating in the arrests for fraud. Newscum should be worried, he headed it all. As for vaccines being "safe and effective", they never were, vaccines and viruses have been proven to be a total scam and fraud perpetrated by the corrupt medical establishment under the guise of "science".

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Maybe he and Walz can vaca and commiserate together…

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes, vacay in prison as cellies.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

One bald, one not. No fighting over the hair gel!!

Beckadee's avatar

Can you imagine both of their bat shit crazy wives hanging out together.

Juju's avatar

That’s a room I NEVER want to have to walk into. 😳

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes! He wasn't unaware, he was complicit and benefitting. He needs to be directed to the square big house instead of our Nation's most beautiful oval office, currently occupied by the greatest President in my lifetime.

Lori's avatar

I think the guillotine suits him better. Then his head can be mounted on a wall like a deer, install a mirror so he can stare at himself for all eternity and admire his hair.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I like that...a trophy kill of one of the most corrupt, criminal animals in the kingdom, the greasy newscum.

CeeMcG's avatar

Rob Bonta finally decided to do something other than his continual lawsuits against parents trying to keep schools from transing their children. He and Newsom are both useless.

GregWA's avatar

I have a strategy for VP Vance on his fraud task force. It's a way to find where fraud is occurring and it's really simple. Assume that every single dollar the government, State or Federal, pays to anyone is fraud! That's where you start. Then you go door to door confirming legitimate social security recipients and cross them off the list. Same with veterans benefits. Same with Federal retirement benefits.

And that's about it...every corporation left on the list, every LLC, is then checked. And the fair market value of what they provided is determined and compared to what they were paid. $10,000 hammers sold to DoD? $20M toilets sold to NASA (along with a $1M plunger to fix it "en route").

I might even go one step further and just suspect all such payments until the recipient can prove, in writing, with receipts and invoices, proof of products delivered, services rendered.

And why does all government spending involve fraud? Simple: the people signing the checks don't care. it's other peoples' money. Gotta change that too.

The people signing the checks also want their budget to increase next year and if they don't spend all of this years' money, that won't happen. The system is incentivized to spend, spend, spend! What gets delivered is not a measure of success, only spending is considered success. Gotta change that too.

Maureen's avatar

That’s what we call accountability! Which has been missing forever and is what enables the fraud. My question is this - with real spending cuts, can I stop paying taxes? With the BILLIONS of fraud, it’s clear that our taxes are not necessary in the first place. Nor is the IRS.

Tom Bernard's avatar

Excellent point on the spending; which is true of many large companies. I was a subcontractor for the Water Company in CT for years, and toward the end of every year the Department that hired me would 'create jobs and/or overtime' to use up any remaining money... because, as you said; If they didn't use it they would get less the following year. I can only imagine how much this amounts to in a bloated and corrupt Government.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Maybe they should offer bonuses for departments that trim their budgets and find fraud and waste. They get a 5% bonus for what they save. Give a positive incentive for the people working there to find waste/fraud and cut it.

GregWA's avatar

Good thought Carol. And btw, that should work in my line: government funded R&D. We submit a proposal with a budget request and then we work on the research until the money is gone. It's hard to estimate costs for a few people working for 2-3 years on a project. My attitude is "do good work, don't waste taxpayer money".

But if there was an incentive to get the job done for less, people would game the system: submit a budget that's 10% more than you need, then finish "under budget" and collect your 5%. I don't see how to get around that for anyone getting government money.

What might work is whatever you save doesn't go to you personally, but it goes to increasing your government budget next year. Again, people would game that, but at least the government gets its costs reduced. I'd split the cost savings 50-50: 50% goes back to the Treasury and 50% goes into your companies' bank for next year's government contract work. Above and beyond what the government already agreed to pay. There would have to be this catch: you then have to tell the government what wonderful new scope of work you did with that extra money. I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Geez, I wish people wouldn’t try to game anything and just do good, ethical work. You have a great point! Maybe a bonus for finding fraud then! Whistleblowers would come out of the woodwork on that one.

Susan Seas's avatar

Hiring a lot of people to do that job would be cheaper than the fraud that is being stolen from us!

Lori's avatar

I would do it for our country for free.

Susan Seas's avatar

⬆️ 100% Me too!!

Juju's avatar

I got the time! That means others do too. Make use of the senior citizens that are still sane patriots. They feel useful and meaningful and the country is protected by the elders.

Kenpowoman's avatar

This is the norm in business. I was a group unit manager in a high-tech company in the 90s, and I was shocked at budgeting time to discover "The people signing the checks also want their budget to increase next year and if they don't spend all of this years' money, that won't happen. The system is incentivized to spend, spend, spend!"

Richard Whitney's avatar

Yes, I worked for a corporation that did the same thing.

Mrs. RW

CraigN's avatar

I think this will be a new fulltime job for those people with the skills to look for fraud. I believe there was a release of a huge dataset and the government said 'go find them'. Someone help me out here as I thought Jeff had an article on this a month or so ago, but I can't find that.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0394

taxpayer's avatar

That might be a good (though laborious) was to identify fraud paid to individuals, but something else will be needed for defense contractors and other corporations.

Susan Seas's avatar

Whoo-Hoo Here before all the negative Nancy’s! 😅

shayne's avatar

Well done, SS!

Juju's avatar

🤣🤣👍

Fish Whistle's avatar

That's a BIG DEAL!!!

Evangeline's avatar

I hope someone is looking into the SSI scandal i wirnessed, the autism diagnosis scandal. Schools facilitate autism diagnoses, or parents figure out, that a mere statement by a "professional" finding autism, means a supplemental check each month. I saw children "diagnosed" after a one page evaluation. A diagnosis is possible only after a very thorough evaluation covering multiple areas of a childs history and development. This was not that. Parents in urban areas caught on fast. Schools had no problem with it, even though it gummed up Special education even more and blew up caseloads. I had 9 year old perfectly typical kids tell me suddenly they had autism. We need to ask if this may be part of the astonishing rates of "autism" we have in our populations. How much of that is really parents profiteering after a fabricated or exaggerated diagnosis.

Johnny-O's avatar

Autism code pays out bigly to schools.....

NAB's avatar

The autism landscape is so different than it was 27 years ago when I was first getting my son evaluated. Back then, it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get a diagnosis. They had other labels like, "pervasive developmental disorder, not otherwise specified". And without an "official" diagnosis, securing supportive services like OT and PT and speech in school was next to impossible. My husband and I spent thousands and thousands of dollars paying for those things out of pocket (not to mention becoming our own physical, occupational and speech therapists to help our son).

I am beyond grateful that we were in a position to help our son financially, academically, socially and emotionally, but now it seems like everyone is "on the spectrum." I don't want to deny care to those who need it, but I fear we may be overapplying the diagnosis and diluting out the true suffering of kids (and their parents) facing catastrophic, non-verbal autism with profound delays. It's one thing to be "quirky" and quite another thing to require constant supervision, toileting assistance and communication boards to get through a day.

Juju's avatar

I had three children with legitimate disabilities and autism spectrum, each with multiple diagnoses. I had to fight the district to provide the interventions they needed and never once received a dime from state or federal for any of them. However, the IRS did break their own laws when they tried to deny us medical deductions for special education. It cost us $7,000 (never reimbursed) to fight them off and prove they broke the law. Had I wanted to get back the $12,000 they fraudulently kept of our taxes, that would have cost me more stress and money. We just walked away. Why go through all that if we have to hand over the refund to attorneys?

I don’t know how these parents get any financial help from autism, because that’s not what we experienced. We were financially burdened for over 15 years, and eventually had to move our youngest two boys to private schooling to get them the environment they needed. We weren’t reimbursed for THAT either, because it would have cost us $40,000 in legal fees just the first year to fight the district to pay for it - and we had the best documentation that the two different attorneys we consulted ever saw. All said it was an open-shut case, but it would cost us up front and we wouldn’t be able to recoup attorney fees. In our state, less than 2% of all parents who go through Due Process without an attorney succeed. And when they try their child is left to languish while the school district draws out the case. It’s a sham and kids and their families are the ones hurt.

So I’m scratching my head how parents can commit fraud in this way. The fraud I ran into was the government against us!

Runemasque's avatar

How did you find that 2% statistic for pro se? That is very interesting.

Juju's avatar

The attorneys I consulted are seasoned special education attorneys in our state. They provided the statistic to me and said it was well known by both the schools and all the attorneys. The total number of Due Process cases brought by parents without representation in our state and the amount of those that parents won was less than 2%. I was fighting an uphill battle.

SB's avatar

They keep changing the definition of autism, too. Several years ago, my SIL saw a news story about updated autism definition. According to that, I have autism because apparently it says that if you have any kind of “tick” you have autism. Well, I have a bad habit of chewing my nails but apparently that means I have autism. It’s insane!

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Wow - learned something today. Was entirely unaware of the autism diagnosis scam.

Thanks

Aliss Terpstra's avatar

Re: Jay B. choppy-changeying the rules for ACIP makeup etc. and Bobby K. still on top: I kept telling people that appealing that stupid judge's ruling was NOT the way to go. A lot were devastated and crying, but I knew it wasn't the end, not nearly. And I'm not even a lawyer. I just think like one. I am certain that RFK and JB are going to find a way to get those Covid jab victims seen and heard and compensated too.

Johnny-O's avatar

Maybe someday we will get off the plantation and realize we are playing right into their hands. We want compensation! I WANT THE JABS REMOVED so we quit poisoning our children who have no choice.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

1] Simple: If these Epstein folks can take loot to go on live television, travel all around D.C. with government officials, and cash in on their story, they can just as easily testify under oath before Congress. If they refuse, well, you make the call.

2] WE NEED ARRESTS ALREADY FOR ALL THIS FRAUD

3] The Left went from war crimes if he refused to negotiate with Iran to describing negotiating a cease-fire with Iran as “caving in.” https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/i-will-beat-the-black-off-you

Happy Friday.

Eric Swalwell is a pervert

TDawg's avatar

The stage is being set for the reveal of the most heinous atrocities. Trickles will become floods and the people will wake up to what is being done to our children. Crimes against children will unite humanity. Have faith in POTUS, his team, and their Plan to save the country. HOWEVER, the evil will only be completely eradicated by our Lord and Savior King of Kings, Jesus. Come quickly, Lord.

Bill Lacey's avatar

Unfortunately, dealing with these rogue judges is like playing "whack-a-mole." The next move by Judge Murphy will be to rule the HHS does not have the power to change the ACIP charter and that the old charter is still in effect. And round-and-round it will go.

Keep in mind, this Judge Murphy was the judge who wrote an opinion over-ruling a SCOTUS opinion that removed his deportation injunction. The SCOTUS responded in a scathing rebuke of Murphy, with Ellen Kagan (yes, that Ellen Kagan) labeling Murphy as a "lawless" judge. Yet, here he is again, unbowed and uncensured, still throwing sand into the gears.

Until these judges pay a price by losing their judgeships for acting as political activists instead of adjudicators, these intentional, "let's run out the clock until the Democrats take power again" tactics will continue.

SHug's avatar

We need a "3 strikes & you're out rule" for these lawless judges. Overturned? Strike 1, and the follow up; if they fight it, they get disbarred. And they should never be allowed to be a judge again, not even for a dog pageant.

chuck kutchera's avatar

In California, and any democrat controlled state, monitoring actually means fatting your bank account.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah, if they could follow that money trail,you can bet nuisance and bass,the communists racist ni&&er pig we’re getting massive kickbacks. Guaranteed!

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

"Yesterday, the New York Times alarmingly reported, “New Charter Allows RFK Jr. to Reclaim Vaccine Policy Despite Court Ruling.”"

It's funny, the NY Times.

JUST ONE DAY EARLIER they reported about Mirabelli in California (see Jeff's Substack here: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/sinking-cred-thursday-april-9-2026), and NEVER, not even ONCE, wrote the words "despite court ruling" even though THAT court was the freaking SUPREME COURT of the United States of America, not some rinky-dink District Court, and at that just ONE rinky-dink District judge.

What a trash outfit, the NY Times.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I wouldn't wipe my a** with the NYT as that would pollute my rear end. However, the content is much the same, so I'm on the fence.

Juju's avatar

We need a T-Shirt with this “I wouldn’t wipe my a** with the NYTimes as that would pollute my rear end” 🤣🤣🤣

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Nice subtle visual pun!

Susie & Security's avatar

The folks who do not support the demolition of the cruel Iranian regime are either uninformed, or they support radical Islamic jihad, including "death to America." We must understand that the Islamic revolution birthed a radical Shia ideology that seeks the final destruction of the world in order to expedite the return of their Mahdi, also known as the Twelfth Imam.

Iran and their terrorist proxies will never negotiate truthfully with the infidels. Per radical Islam, mankind's choice is convert to Islam or perish. Period.

Here is a fantastic round-up of that topic.

https://tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/twelver-doomsday-cult?r=h9rb1&utm_medium=ios

NYT and WaPo editors would understand the evil of Khamenei regime and IRGC if only they read "All the Sha's Men," written by one of their own former foreign correspondents Stephen Kinzer.

All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror https://a.co/d/050QFqZg.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The way I conclude who the real terrorist are is I compare numbers. How many Americans has Iran killed in the US v how many Iranians has the US killed in Iran.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Not to mention, but I will, that the US encouraged Saddam Hussein to start a war with Iran AND provided him with chemical weapons to use against Iranians in that war.

So yeah, the Iranian body count is far higher than the American, including in the last 6 weeks.

Mrs. RW

Richard Whitney's avatar

"Death to America" is outrageous! Who cares that they said it after the US shot down a civilian plane, killing 290, and also after the US murdered widely admired Solemaini.

"We will destroy your civilization and you will never recover", on the other hand, is a rational and reasonable statement that is totally not threatening terrorism.

Mrs. RW

Christine's avatar

Do you have the numbers?

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I have no specific numbers, I doubt anyone does. However, excluding the many Iranian leaders the US killed, let's use Trump's recent number when he claims Iran killed 45,000 people. I don't think it's a credible number but I'll use it.

Of the people Iran has executed, a large portion were people recruited by US ngo's & 3 letter agencies to act on behalf of US interest. Iran executed them for treason. That wouldn't have happened if the US was addressing its own serious issues at home instead of going 6,000 miles away to try and take another countries's mineral wealth.

As far as I know the Iranian government isn't responsible for any US citizen's deaths in the US. I may be wrong but if there are any, it must be very few.

Lisa's avatar

If only the media was real, skeptics all the way around.

Susie & Security's avatar

If only people would educate themselves in factual history. Many people believe they are "well-informed" by following the media. What's disturbing is their lack of discernment, fact-checking, and common sense.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Susie, that tierneyrealnews article is very good, thanks for the link. This stood out, and the young ones today need to know: “ Khomeini audaciously claimed that, in the Hidden Imam’s absence, top Shia jurists should rule in his name, exercising absolute control over the state, military, judiciary, and economy. In other words, he created a dictatorship where one cleric governed as God’s stand-in on earth. He made himself God.

In 1979, his version of Twelver Shia Islam toppled the Shah of Iran and President Jimmy Carter helped make it happen. Carter enabled Islamists, communists, and Western-educated radicals to consume Tehran and basically steal it from the West. Khomeini returned a conquering prophet, declaring the new Islamic Republic and setting in motion what would become the world’s largest state sponsor of terror.”

Jimmy Carter was a terrible president.

Susie & Security's avatar

Margot, have you read about Operation Ajax? It was a covert CIA–MI6 operation in 1953 that toppled Iran’s democratically elected prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh, and reinstalled the Shah—securing Western oil interests while entrenching decades of resentment toward the United States and Britain.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Most of that article is theory based on facts which are not in evidence. It's fear mongering and weak minds fall for it.

We will never know how accurate any of the theories are because there has been, and continues to be non-stop interference in Iran, by the US.

Apparently Tierney didn't want to mention events in Iran before the 1953 coup when the UK/US installed the shah in power. I wonder why those facts that are in evidence didn't receive any consideration.

You might reconsider judging other people's news gathering techniques when at least some of yours seem to conflate opinions for news. Just a suggestion.