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Hannahlehigh's avatar

Steve Kirsch does not believe the jabs were done on purpose, to kill and maim, he thinks it was bad practice making them. He also refuses to call them bioweapon injections and continues to call them "vaccines" which we all know, they are not.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's weird how some of us figured it out from the start. Jeff Childers and most of us on this stack knew to avoid the shots.

Yet Steve rushed out and got multiple jabs, and forced his kids to as well.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

AND now questions all vax’s. REALLY?! I guess it’s never too late to wake up but....

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Alison Smith's avatar

I think we should applaud people whenever they finally wake up. If he is so liberal then of course it would take a long time to wake up.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

More stuff I didn’t know! He was pro-vax?? Kirsch is like most reformed whatever’s. Reformed smokers can smell cigarette smoke on the head of a pin. It’s become personal to him and by dammit he’s gonna let the world know about it. Okay, you said it, it’s never too late. He’s one that is not letting a crisis go to waste, for sure.

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Barnjai's avatar

I agree with Alison Smith. I don't think many of us are the same people we were 3 years ago. If we are it's because we choose to be blind. Cheers to Steve Kirsch for doing an about face. So many people will hold onto the belief that they did no harm to themselves or those they love because that is just too awful to admit.

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Annie's avatar

He is a libbie.

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Kathy's avatar

He made the mistake of trusting our agencies. But boy, did you see the list of drugs and supplements he took when he got Covid? I think it was about 25 things, no joke. He was truly scared. I love Steve for all he is doing now, and trying to help with the child vaccine schedule as well.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes Steve Kirsch is indeed awesome with his advocacy exposing the vaccine industry. Glad he's using his wealth to fight Big Pharma.

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FourWinds's avatar

OK, that bothers me about him. There were former attempts at mRNA "vaccines" in which all of the test subject - animals - died. The technology existed and surely he knew about those studies. So if it killed all animals, why wouldn't it kill people? 2+2=4 and so in my opinion, he had to know it was dangerous from the get go and the only reason that new tech was used instead of old style vaccine creation was to kill, maim and destroy. All this IMO.

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Anthony's avatar

Agreed. This was common knowledge at the beginning.

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Kathy's avatar

I think people were so frightened that they lost ability to reason, and they operated on trust and hope. I credit children’s health defense and Gary Null for saving my ass! Gary was around during the aids years and told me all about the evil of Fauci and also how the doctors and health practitioners who were bringing people with HIV back to health, were attacked and ignored. I hadn’t thought about Fauci in years. And when I saw him, I said oh no, not that guy.!

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Credenda's avatar

Lol me too! I was around during his heyday with AIDS and I remember how he pulled the same stunt with a crappy drug called AZT which hurt and killed a lot of people. AND like this time, he withheld access to the drugs that worked.

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Credenda's avatar

Exactly!!! Even I knew that in previous attempts ALL the lab animals had died. And the unrelenting pressure, the insane insistence that every man, woman, child, dog, cat and zoo animal get jabbed made me suspicious of the whole thing. I feel good about convincing one person who was under heavy pressure from docs and family not to get the jabs. She has told me many times now how grateful she is that I was so adamant that she hold out.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup! Absolutely no excuse.

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L1's avatar

I'm not 100% sure myself, but I lean towards it being on purpose to depopulate. I also think that even if Kirsch knows that it was, he might not be ready to say it yet. The timing matters. People are still resistant to even the idea that the shots were unsafe. That's the point they need to accept to stop them from continuing to take them. That's first priority. If he just yells out that it was depopulation, he will be disregarded. We need everyone to understand they are dangerous first, even it that means easing them into the truth. Most are catching on, but some still can't admit it.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

I really wish he would stop calling them "vaccines" though, that doesn't help people to understand how dangerous they are. He could at least call them genetic injections. We won't defeat the enemy unless we name it first, he has to start naming it.

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L1's avatar

I think genetic injections would be very appropriate. I would prefer him to say that as well. I just feel that some of those like him, who are in the public eye, trying to get the truth out there are being cautious to not say everything they know to be true yet. I think they give information and see how it is received before they dish out things that are even harder to accept. We are all in slightly different stages of being red-pilled. It's more of a course of pills than a single dose. If I had heard everything at once, I would have rolled my eyes and walked away.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

I don't know if you saw Jeff on Steve's podcast last night. At the close, Jeff made a comment about how we can't sue the DoD since they have sovereign immunity. Steve just smiled and nodded his head. I believe Steve has had Sasha Latypova on his podcast but it would have been quite some time ago. Point being he knows about the DoD's role. He never writes about it. Why? Curious, no? And Jeff gave him a great big wide opening he could have driven a truck into. Nothing from Steve. What's up with that? There's plenty of factual information he could be pointing to. No conjecture necessary. But, nope, complete silence on the elephant in the room. How is expending all his energy on the pharmaceutical firm angle helping a vast audience understand what has really *really* happened? He could take it one step at a time, but he's not taking step #1. Why? I said somewhere else earlier in comments I think he's another limited hangout. This Consumer Reports low rating on mpg. ...Everybody's got an opinion.

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Politico Phil's avatar

If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck....! I don't think there is much to debate about your conclusions. The only reason people don't see this is a bad case of cognitive dissonance.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks for the observations. Interesting, and lots of questions.

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L1's avatar

Well, that’s possible. I guess time will tell.

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Kathy's avatar

That is a very good point. He may be keeping his opinion to himself. It is hard enough to be taken seriously when you are showing the data, much less when you are saying that there is an intention to the populate. I know I did not used to want to believe it either. Now I have no choice.

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TimeIsNear's avatar

I didn't know this. That raises a lot of red flags because it can't be any more obvious as to what's going on. 4 different pharmaceutical companies created gene therapy jabs all using mRNA tech along with similar ingredients. At least the ones we know about. Anyone who has seriously looked into all of this knows it was planned years ago. Regardless, I stopped taking all jabs back in 1995 because I learned that's what was making me sick.

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Kathy's avatar

I think there were good doctors and scientists, who never did look into it until they saw people starting to have very bad reactions, and people dying. Even in The flccc and Peter McCullough did not come out at the very beginning against the jabs. Even as they were focusing on early treatment, they wanted the jobs to work, hoped they would work. Now they have all become “ never Vaxxers” or you can also call them vaccine risk aware! VRA!

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TimeIsNear's avatar

I won't argue with you on this one. I know there were many who were against it and many lost their jobs over it. These doctors would be the ones I trust the most because they were willing to sacrifice it all. I believe many have good intentions and now they're seeing it for what it really is. I get them walking that fine line too. We still need some good ones in there to keep exposing to the world what's happening. Those who are flat out denying at this point in time are complicit as far as I'm concerned. There's too much evidence out there now. I hope they get sued into oblivion and then strung up on a tree. I'll buy all the rope. This has caused a lot of death, suffer, and grief.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

My last injection was 61 years ago, I was 10.

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TimeIsNear's avatar

Good for you! I hope for the day where no one is taking them. Knowing what I know now, I would have never taken one back then. I guess it better late than never.

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Kathy's avatar

I think he is a really good person, and has a hard time imagining other scientists, PhD’s, and doctors having evil intentions. When Neil Degrasse Tyson went on the highwire and had a debate with Del Bigtree, I felt the same way. Neil does not want to think that other scientists could be compromised, because he is an honest person. Part of his self image is that of being part of a group of good honest people. But it is naïve. Do people think that Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and Idi Amin and Mao are just relics of the past, and an extinct specie? There have always been psychopaths, and there will always be psychopaths. Or if you want to take the religious view, there will always be people tempted by evil.

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