I assume you disagree with just the first sentence, not the second? If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny. 2020 was ridiculous. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns an…
I assume you disagree with just the first sentence, not the second? If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny. 2020 was ridiculous. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any. I think that, in hindsight, some of them did not make a good enough case for themselves as legislators, administrators or governors, they rather staked their whole campaign on being a Trump acolyte. In some races this was enough, in others it wasn’t. Again, I think Trump’s coattails will be much longer in coming elections if he and his team can deliver on their promises and govern well. (And never miss a chance to display the opposition’s nefarious destructive obstructionist activities).
re: I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.
Im going to get straight to the point.
I don't know quite how to say it to someone who apparently has their head in the sand - utterly refusing to see the fraud.
Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?
Trump has massive coat tails from the past 8 years, except for the massive manipulation of the election.
I understand that, but it is necessary to get to reality and if it takes saying some difficult things, then I will say them. You have made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud in our elections and so I have to call you out rather than play along. Did you read the Nickson article I posted at the top of this thread? PLease, I urge you to read the entire thing and watch the videos she linked in it.
You attribute things to me that I never said or even implied. Ex: “You’ve made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud…”. I’m perfectly willing to discuss election fraud. But, combating straw men is not my idea of time well spent.
Here are 4 of your statements which led to mine about ignoring massive fraud:
a. If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence.
b. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny.
c. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.
d. ... In some races this was enough, in others it wasn’t.
Those statements are indicative of someone with their head in the sand, or perhaps so indoctrinated by the lying media, that they simply cannot see the truth of what happened in 2020, 2022 and 2024.
I’m pretty sure there was more fraud in 2020 (10 million Biden voters disappeared), so that’s not exactly controversial. I’m also certain down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns. That is just being honest and realistic. “In some races this was enough, and in others it wasn’t” referring to running strictly on Trump’s endorsement v. working harder to establish your own credentials and brand is self evidently true, because, as I said, “in some races it WAS enough, it others it wasn’t” as the results showed.
So, I’d appreciate it if you would stop stating that my heads “in the sand”, attributing to me things I did not say, and twisting the things I did say.
Again: Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?
It's not an easy task but the first thing they do is make all the code open source on every device. Once it's all open source every one can look at it, study it line by line, and determine how the votes are being manipulated, its why they wont let us look.
Once you have the code cleaned up, then you disconnect every single machine from the network and you remove every network interface card so there can be no nefarious connections.
Finally, the people verify the machine result by hand.
Then you can overcome machine manipulation.
But the most simple and correct solution is to simply not use machines. It is a very straight forward, verifiable process to count paper ballots by hand.
Very good plan Daniel. Every ballot envelope mailed to an election office must be verified, as they say in the legal business, as a 'true bill'.
Oregon, 100% mail in for far too long, has no chain of custody on ballots. With the very loose signature verification process anyone can can (and does) vote. Per Judicial Watch Oregon has the dirtiest voter rolls in the country.
I assume you disagree with just the first sentence, not the second? If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny. 2020 was ridiculous. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any. I think that, in hindsight, some of them did not make a good enough case for themselves as legislators, administrators or governors, they rather staked their whole campaign on being a Trump acolyte. In some races this was enough, in others it wasn’t. Again, I think Trump’s coattails will be much longer in coming elections if he and his team can deliver on their promises and govern well. (And never miss a chance to display the opposition’s nefarious destructive obstructionist activities).
re: I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.
Im going to get straight to the point.
I don't know quite how to say it to someone who apparently has their head in the sand - utterly refusing to see the fraud.
Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?
Trump has massive coat tails from the past 8 years, except for the massive manipulation of the election.
Daniel, telling someone you’ve never met that they have their “head in the sand” is not a great way to get a conversation started.
I understand that, but it is necessary to get to reality and if it takes saying some difficult things, then I will say them. You have made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud in our elections and so I have to call you out rather than play along. Did you read the Nickson article I posted at the top of this thread? PLease, I urge you to read the entire thing and watch the videos she linked in it.
You attribute things to me that I never said or even implied. Ex: “You’ve made posts which completely ignore the massive fraud…”. I’m perfectly willing to discuss election fraud. But, combating straw men is not my idea of time well spent.
Here are 4 of your statements which led to mine about ignoring massive fraud:
a. If so, I think there could have been fraud, though I’ve not seen the direct evidence.
b. Even so, I’m sure there was less fraud than in 2020 because of heightened scrutiny.
c. I do think some of the down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns and potentially overcome the fraud, if any.
d. ... In some races this was enough, in others it wasn’t.
Those statements are indicative of someone with their head in the sand, or perhaps so indoctrinated by the lying media, that they simply cannot see the truth of what happened in 2020, 2022 and 2024.
Daniel, there you go again.
I’m pretty sure there was more fraud in 2020 (10 million Biden voters disappeared), so that’s not exactly controversial. I’m also certain down ballot candidates could have run better campaigns. That is just being honest and realistic. “In some races this was enough, and in others it wasn’t” referring to running strictly on Trump’s endorsement v. working harder to establish your own credentials and brand is self evidently true, because, as I said, “in some races it WAS enough, it others it wasn’t” as the results showed.
So, I’d appreciate it if you would stop stating that my heads “in the sand”, attributing to me things I did not say, and twisting the things I did say.
Again: Our "elections" are manipulated, they are manipulated with programmable machines and massive mail in ballot fraud, both set upon the American people over almost 4 decades to take over our country. When you can understand that, then we can have a conversation about what to do about it. In the meantime, where do you live, how old are you, male or female?
Your inquiries are inappropriate. You should contain them.
No, they are completely appropriate, I live in Cochise Az, male, 66 years old, 34 years in the Army.
You seem to want to hide behind a made up name.
Your turn.
No one asked you. Have you considered that?
This is the best deep thread I have ever seen! Thank you both for not resorting to name-calling.
This is the best deep thread I have ever seen! Thank you both for not resorting to name-calling.
How do thy overcome machine manipulation?
It's not an easy task but the first thing they do is make all the code open source on every device. Once it's all open source every one can look at it, study it line by line, and determine how the votes are being manipulated, its why they wont let us look.
Once you have the code cleaned up, then you disconnect every single machine from the network and you remove every network interface card so there can be no nefarious connections.
Finally, the people verify the machine result by hand.
Then you can overcome machine manipulation.
But the most simple and correct solution is to simply not use machines. It is a very straight forward, verifiable process to count paper ballots by hand.
Very good plan Daniel. Every ballot envelope mailed to an election office must be verified, as they say in the legal business, as a 'true bill'.
Oregon, 100% mail in for far too long, has no chain of custody on ballots. With the very loose signature verification process anyone can can (and does) vote. Per Judicial Watch Oregon has the dirtiest voter rolls in the country.