You probably already know that a bill is somewhere in the PA state legislature to permit Ivermectin be sold OTC. I emailed my state senator asking him to support it and he sent me a paper letter, instead of an email reply, saying that he's interested in the idea. It wasn't a full-throated support for the idea, but I was encouraged.
Last I checked the cost for OTC Ivermectin( in Tennessee) is $189/ 40 pills. In 2022(?) I paid $3.13 for a 40 pill prescription. Then around $12 for my next one.
If I had to go to a doc, I asked them straight out, do you push the covid jabs and give informed consent and do you believe covid came from a pangolin and if they are against ivermec or hydroxychlor for early tx of covid; if they said yes to any, i walked out and told them, they will regret those answers. then posted google reviews noting what they said.
I’ve been doing this too since 2022. It’s mind boggling how many want to shoo me out of their office the minute I start to ask these questions. We have sooooooo many uninformed and bad doctors and nurses today that blindly follow marching orders and believe they are in some superior position. It’s sad.
I even had one surgeon respond to me, when I asked very pointed and well-researched questions about a surgery I needed, she said, “you couldn’t possibly understand not having earned a degree as a surgeon” said with a disparaging laugh as she shook her head and put her hand over her heart.
Oh ok, so since I have a masters in Computer Science, I can then just assume that a person who studied ONLY the medical field couldn’t possibly possess the intelligence needed to understand the inner workings of a computer or know how to approach fixing their own when it breaks down? So they have the skill to understand the inner workings of the human body but not a computer?
It was so insulting. We each put our time and money into studying different things, it does NOT mean we don’t possess the capability to understand what the other does. I’m paying for that actual discussion with my time and money in that appointment.
Too many want to keep that divide between them and who they consider to be nothing more than rubes.
I know what you mean! One of the first ?s a doc would ask me is if my covid jab is utd. i told them i do not stick poison in my body. their heads spun around like linda blair in the exorcist.
I live in "Trump territory" in north Georgia. This week while establishing care with a new PCP, she didn't blink when I told her I never took the Covid 'vax,' I stopped taking the flu shot too, and I haven't been sick since then.
However, the medical software system sent me a "letter" two days later saying "it's time for your flu shot." Medical insurance runs our care, not medical professionals.
None listed on their site for my area within an hour’s driving distance of me return phone calls. It’s like they aren’t in business anymore or something. I can’t tell. They have websites but don’t return calls. Really discouraging trying to find the right kind of care that I desire.
I have to drive about an hour to my doc on that list as no one closer either Juju. Try googling Integrative MD and see if you find one near you. They are hard to find as most docs are still part of the CDC/FDA narrative and closer to larger cities.
Had a conversation with an individual yesterday, stemmed from talking about horses and ivermectin, they legitimately thought ivermectin was only safe for livestock and horses, not a clue about ivermectin's history... SMH. Did not convince them completely, but they looked it up to prove me wrong and were shocked to find out they were... baby steps
I try hard not to tell anyone to google something. I know it’s become a common name like Kleenex is used instead of tissue, but google is the worst for hiding still about 10 screens in. I say search the internet. I use mostly Brave and sometimes DDG
I got a 20 minute lecture from my audiologist when she asked if I’d been vaccinated and I answered that I don’t do any vaccines. I gave her a 1 minute explanation of what I do and she replied, “Good luck with that!” I told I did not rely on luck but used my brain. Yes, I saw her “conference” with the ENT after our testing and he was was so arrogant and demeaning in his exam. I’m sure there was a big X mark on my chart as I left taking off my mask 😁.
My husband's cardiologist said that same thing to him when he told her he was not taking any prescription meds to deal with his diabetes or his heart. I've heard that some doctors will not let you continue as a patient if you defy them. What happened to "First do no harm"?
Your story demonstrates exactly why we need to take back our schools and Universities. The administration can change everything, but if we don't change the mindset, it will all go back to business as usual.
When I lived in NC, my PCP was under the massive Atrium conglomerate where the bottom line is $$$, not care. I wrote a letter to the Atrium CEO about the poor levels of care and service, but he didn't bother responding.
Ever since I rejected the jab, that PCP treated me differently, essentially blowing off any new concern I bring to her. There is no excuse for that.
But this is the way our world runs. Insurance is an "empire," not a service.
Atrium and its practitioners are bound to follow insurance protocols by applying a code to everything under the sun, from which insurance determines eligible "treatment" (e.g, the cheapest). Worse, as a nurse told me in disgust one day, Atrium issued a decree requiring one of my docs to see "four patients an hour," which is why the doc rushes out of the room to make it to the next patient.
You should request a copy of your records to see what’s in them, then share the fun parts. We could all use a laugh. My husband was treated at the VA for 4 years for colon cancer. Towards the end I had to go through his records for info to try to get him into a study. When I went through the records, at every visit my husband told the nurse that he was going to beat the cancer. And every visit had a notation by the nurse that he was counseled that he was not going to beat this and that this was fatal. My husband believed in positivity, mind over matter. It’s sad that every time he went for medical treatment he was told that he was going to die from the cancer.
My dr scoffed at my taking vitamin D for preventive support. It was noted in my chart. She made me get a blood level because she was freaked out that I was taking so much. Granted, I had accidentally loaded my pill box with 20,000 units instead of 10. My level was >100; dr said I was "toxic" and that my vitamin D was, no doubt, responsible for my {last few years} of fatigue and I had to stop taking it and retest in 2-3 weeks.
I said (1) it takes several months for levels to re-equilibrate, (2) my fatigue well-preceded my overconsumption.
I retested in a month and then resumed a dose of my own choosing. The entire thing was absurd.
FWIW, for the last year I've been taking 20K/day. Every time I start to decrease, I start getting sick. So, I just stick with the 20. My new dr agrees wholeheartedly with my plan. He takes a bunch of D himself.
I lost many friend but realized, I was just cleaning house and when the chips were down, they were never friends. Proud of what I did and continue to do. I have a big mouth and use it well.
My husband was the only family member (kids, spouses, grandkids) who took the shots in 2021. We were a family of 16. We are now a family of 15. He died in 2022 with 3 shots in him. The journey for me has gotten even lonelier.
We need to find you a good functional medicine doc or a naturopath. All our vets deserve more than the VA, even when it doesn't manage to deliver decent care.
Yep. That one got me unfriended on Fart Book by my former lab friends. They had PhDs, so obviously they knew so much more and lined up for the shots. Hope they’re ok but I’ll never know.
I think the spike protein had to exist. The production of it is essential for the harmful effects which came first? You have given me something to ponder
I just remember how everyone looked at me like I was a nutter when I said covid was a bioweapon.
Remembering asking one of my VA providers that question and I'm sure he made a "note" in my medical record for a possible psychiatric intervention.
blinding taking vaccines = good
simply asking questions = crazy
When you asked that question, Kathleen, I hope you were wearing a nice, big, shiny tinfoil hat.
I even talked about ivermectin...probably a double "note" in my medical record.
You probably already know that a bill is somewhere in the PA state legislature to permit Ivermectin be sold OTC. I emailed my state senator asking him to support it and he sent me a paper letter, instead of an email reply, saying that he's interested in the idea. It wasn't a full-throated support for the idea, but I was encouraged.
Last I checked the cost for OTC Ivermectin( in Tennessee) is $189/ 40 pills. In 2022(?) I paid $3.13 for a 40 pill prescription. Then around $12 for my next one.
You can order it from India Mart, no prescription needed, reasonable prices.
Do you have a specific vendor? My vendors PayPal was cut off.
GBA, go to 2nd smartest guy in the world substack .you can order through virex health, credit card accepted. Easy peasy..and good prices and discounts
Navin at Keshavdas And Sons Med Exports. He's fast and fair. I don't think he takes PayPal. I opened a Wise account, which is pretty easy to do.
I noticed that extreme price increase as well
Buy from India. PremiumRxDrugs.com is one of several sources.
I use "All Day Chemists" and their prices have only gone up a little since 2020.
I just paid like sixty bucks for 50 pills 12mg . Go to 2nd smartest guy in the world substack and order thru virex health.
In 2021, I paid over $100 at a local pharmacy for a box of 48.
If I had to go to a doc, I asked them straight out, do you push the covid jabs and give informed consent and do you believe covid came from a pangolin and if they are against ivermec or hydroxychlor for early tx of covid; if they said yes to any, i walked out and told them, they will regret those answers. then posted google reviews noting what they said.
I’ve been doing this too since 2022. It’s mind boggling how many want to shoo me out of their office the minute I start to ask these questions. We have sooooooo many uninformed and bad doctors and nurses today that blindly follow marching orders and believe they are in some superior position. It’s sad.
I even had one surgeon respond to me, when I asked very pointed and well-researched questions about a surgery I needed, she said, “you couldn’t possibly understand not having earned a degree as a surgeon” said with a disparaging laugh as she shook her head and put her hand over her heart.
Oh ok, so since I have a masters in Computer Science, I can then just assume that a person who studied ONLY the medical field couldn’t possibly possess the intelligence needed to understand the inner workings of a computer or know how to approach fixing their own when it breaks down? So they have the skill to understand the inner workings of the human body but not a computer?
It was so insulting. We each put our time and money into studying different things, it does NOT mean we don’t possess the capability to understand what the other does. I’m paying for that actual discussion with my time and money in that appointment.
Too many want to keep that divide between them and who they consider to be nothing more than rubes.
I know what you mean! One of the first ?s a doc would ask me is if my covid jab is utd. i told them i do not stick poison in my body. their heads spun around like linda blair in the exorcist.
I live in "Trump territory" in north Georgia. This week while establishing care with a new PCP, she didn't blink when I told her I never took the Covid 'vax,' I stopped taking the flu shot too, and I haven't been sick since then.
However, the medical software system sent me a "letter" two days later saying "it's time for your flu shot." Medical insurance runs our care, not medical professionals.
Insurance/Big Pharma drug makers...
I hear you on that. Try to find a doc at IMA aka FLCCC website, they rock.
https://imahealth.org/providers/
Thanks for sharing, Lori! I need to bookmark that site and read through it.
None listed on their site for my area within an hour’s driving distance of me return phone calls. It’s like they aren’t in business anymore or something. I can’t tell. They have websites but don’t return calls. Really discouraging trying to find the right kind of care that I desire.
I have to drive about an hour to my doc on that list as no one closer either Juju. Try googling Integrative MD and see if you find one near you. They are hard to find as most docs are still part of the CDC/FDA narrative and closer to larger cities.
They’re still asking that same question.
MD (me, doctor) training includes numerous courses in arrogance in the face of ignorance
Love the caveman talk… it just tickles me for some reason… 🤣
We nurses used to say the doctors had to take classes in arrogance in med school… stupidity classes as well…
This is what still amazes me that some people believe:
Bat + pangolin go to wet market + have a couple of drinks = covid.
🤣
I talk about ivermectin all the time now. Ignorant faces look back. 🙄
Had a conversation with an individual yesterday, stemmed from talking about horses and ivermectin, they legitimately thought ivermectin was only safe for livestock and horses, not a clue about ivermectin's history... SMH. Did not convince them completely, but they looked it up to prove me wrong and were shocked to find out they were... baby steps
No kidding...it is amazing.
Try saving some dumb ass with cancer by mentioning the amazing success with fenbendazole, Ivermectin, Artemisinin and Allulose...
Get ready for fear and rejection...
I try hard not to tell anyone to google something. I know it’s become a common name like Kleenex is used instead of tissue, but google is the worst for hiding still about 10 screens in. I say search the internet. I use mostly Brave and sometimes DDG
Censorship machine, much like Youtube, which Google owns...
Brave is decent and has a built in AI that's not bad.
I use Startpage mostly. NEVER Google.
I do too, always the blank look when I mention ivermectin. Lol 😆
I got a 20 minute lecture from my audiologist when she asked if I’d been vaccinated and I answered that I don’t do any vaccines. I gave her a 1 minute explanation of what I do and she replied, “Good luck with that!” I told I did not rely on luck but used my brain. Yes, I saw her “conference” with the ENT after our testing and he was was so arrogant and demeaning in his exam. I’m sure there was a big X mark on my chart as I left taking off my mask 😁.
My husband's cardiologist said that same thing to him when he told her he was not taking any prescription meds to deal with his diabetes or his heart. I've heard that some doctors will not let you continue as a patient if you defy them. What happened to "First do no harm"?
The problem is they do not see drugs as doing harm. They are so brainwashed.
🎯
Big Harma will NEVER find a cure for one thing and even if they do the world will never know.
Exactly!
Your story demonstrates exactly why we need to take back our schools and Universities. The administration can change everything, but if we don't change the mindset, it will all go back to business as usual.
When I lived in NC, my PCP was under the massive Atrium conglomerate where the bottom line is $$$, not care. I wrote a letter to the Atrium CEO about the poor levels of care and service, but he didn't bother responding.
Ever since I rejected the jab, that PCP treated me differently, essentially blowing off any new concern I bring to her. There is no excuse for that.
But this is the way our world runs. Insurance is an "empire," not a service.
Atrium and its practitioners are bound to follow insurance protocols by applying a code to everything under the sun, from which insurance determines eligible "treatment" (e.g, the cheapest). Worse, as a nurse told me in disgust one day, Atrium issued a decree requiring one of my docs to see "four patients an hour," which is why the doc rushes out of the room to make it to the next patient.
IF both are fully jabbed and boosted... no need to worry about those jerks... they FA'd and soon they will FO.
You should request a copy of your records to see what’s in them, then share the fun parts. We could all use a laugh. My husband was treated at the VA for 4 years for colon cancer. Towards the end I had to go through his records for info to try to get him into a study. When I went through the records, at every visit my husband told the nurse that he was going to beat the cancer. And every visit had a notation by the nurse that he was counseled that he was not going to beat this and that this was fatal. My husband believed in positivity, mind over matter. It’s sad that every time he went for medical treatment he was told that he was going to die from the cancer.
I’ve done that as well. Just to be obnoxious I asked for prophylactic prescription. I already had a supply but I can’t help myself.
My dr scoffed at my taking vitamin D for preventive support. It was noted in my chart. She made me get a blood level because she was freaked out that I was taking so much. Granted, I had accidentally loaded my pill box with 20,000 units instead of 10. My level was >100; dr said I was "toxic" and that my vitamin D was, no doubt, responsible for my {last few years} of fatigue and I had to stop taking it and retest in 2-3 weeks.
I said (1) it takes several months for levels to re-equilibrate, (2) my fatigue well-preceded my overconsumption.
I retested in a month and then resumed a dose of my own choosing. The entire thing was absurd.
FWIW, for the last year I've been taking 20K/day. Every time I start to decrease, I start getting sick. So, I just stick with the 20. My new dr agrees wholeheartedly with my plan. He takes a bunch of D himself.
Ivermectin?!!?!?!
You were lucky they didn't bring you in for a lobotomy! :-)
No, tin foil tiara.
Much more fitting.
Thank you for standing up and saying it out loud back then Kathleen!
It was a lonely journey...even got so much push back from friends.
I lost many friend but realized, I was just cleaning house and when the chips were down, they were never friends. Proud of what I did and continue to do. I have a big mouth and use it well.
Me too. I knew the governments message didn’t add up. No way you know long-term side effects in a 4-month development period.
My husband was the only family member (kids, spouses, grandkids) who took the shots in 2021. We were a family of 16. We are now a family of 15. He died in 2022 with 3 shots in him. The journey for me has gotten even lonelier.
OMG...sending prayers. That is so awful.
😂
Yes, and being laughed at... sadly many of them are now very sick.
Karma.
I saw a lot of fear too.
We need to find you a good functional medicine doc or a naturopath. All our vets deserve more than the VA, even when it doesn't manage to deliver decent care.
Yep. That one got me unfriended on Fart Book by my former lab friends. They had PhDs, so obviously they knew so much more and lined up for the shots. Hope they’re ok but I’ll never know.
Was Covid the bioweapon or the vax? My understanding is the vax was developed before the virus was unleashed.
Both are bioweapons.
I noted same—-some family thought I was crazy but I said Hell no they are weaponizing it and was called called crazy & conspirac
I think the spike protein had to exist. The production of it is essential for the harmful effects which came first? You have given me something to ponder
I really don't think COVID was much more than a bad flu. The vax was the bioweapon. COVID greased the skids.