I know a man who is ashamed of HIS CORPS! Who refuses to watch professional sports too. I'd feel sorry for him but he's seen the falsehood of those idols he once held so strongly to. Can't even be proud of the Boy Scouts or Girls Scouts even!!
I know a man who is ashamed of HIS CORPS! Who refuses to watch professional sports too. I'd feel sorry for him but he's seen the falsehood of those idols he once held so strongly to. Can't even be proud of the Boy Scouts or Girls Scouts even!!
My oldest is about to eagle out, but scouts wasn’t for my two other boys. If scouts was what it is today 7 years ago we would have left during the first meeting. Once they stopped meeting on zoom they moved outdoors, with masks with hula hoops on the ground to show 6’. Outside! I won’t get into the trans activist mom rewriting the 90+ year old troop songbook. Or the fact that they now have an e-sports merit badge, or the new mandatory for eagle badge, which is just a bunch of DEI crap!
I was shocked a few days ago. We went to a grocery store and out front was a darling little girl and her dad selling girl scout cookies. We asked her to recite the pledge and she couldn’t so we said we’ll stop on our way out. They looked it up and she recited it perfectly. The shocking part, it says ‘God and Country’. I was so happy to hear that. It doesn’t say duty though.
(We bought one box, then asked her to cite it, and when she did we bought another). It’s a pleasure for us old folks to meet sweet and earnest little ones ♥️
If I had a son at scouting age he would be involved in Trail Life or nothing. Trail Life has really grown and developed. And boys can still be boys and do dangerous things boys have always done. I know some troops are different, but the Scouts have been compromised.
This is your experience, not ours. Mine's a Life Scout. Every troop is different, run by the kids and the parents. As always, it's important to dig into what's going on and who runs the troop before joining.
I agree. Try and schedule a paint ball outing though and see what happens. Meanwhile, you’re free to organize an entire weekend of “e-sports.”
The organization is on its way out. They lost the Mormons over their capitulation to culture, are trying to backfill with girls, all while placating the crowd that says gender is a social construct. Your troop sounds like it’s hanging in there, but rot has set in. scouts, absent a return to its founding ideals, won’t be around for our grandkids. That’s my prediction.
My older sons' troop was run by a group of outdoorsy men who really embraced the Scouting ethos so it did well. Overtime, though, as the top level of Scouting administration acquiesced to the Zeitgeist of the day, the culture changed. We didn't even consider it for my youngest son.
Same advice applies to mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches: Research your local before condemning all with a broad brush. You may be surprised at the differences between two churches in the same denomination.
Our troop did masks and zoom (enforced sort of by council). But we never did any hula hoop nonsense. I haven’t looked at the requirements for the new woke merit badge. I’m afraid I will vomit. Been in Scouts for about 15 years. At our troop level I haven’t seen any noticeable change, but I’m in a pretty conservative area.
My family Scouting heritage goes back to 1917 and attending the first World Scout Jamboree in 1920. In fact, I have a photograph on my wall of the entire American Scout delegation, with my grandfather proudly standing in the back row. I announced two weeks ago at our Scoutmaster Corps meeting that I am stepping down and away, as I can no longer support the BSA organization financially or as a Leader, though I will remain available as a Registered Adult to provide assistance with camping and hiking as needed (my son is still in).
It was an extremely difficult decision which has been weighing on my mind for the past few years. Aside from watching the organization twist itself into knots complying with the woke/DEI agenda, the institutional fear-mongering over COVID, the watering-down of Scouting skills mastery, and making it co-ed... far too many of the boys just aren't even taking it seriously.
Yes, our great family friend living near us when I was a boy let me see how awesome scouting was many decades ago. He was an area scouting leader. Went on camporees with my dad and our friend and I was mesmerized by the traditions. That’s all gone up in smoke.
Does anyone even see any actual Girl Scouts sell cookies anymore? I only see adults selling now. I'm glad I don't buy cookies from them anymore. Just another entity that's been overrun by the woke.
I think one of the big problems with Scouts, churches, etc., is that they attract pedophiles. We as parents must realize that pedophiles will purposely join these groups and appear normal. They'll befriend you to get near your children. Parents need to know this. We tend to be comfortable with people we see as being in our tribe, but we can't let our guards down or assume that just because an organization is good doesn't mean all the people within the organization are good.
I coached Christian Youth basketball for a while decades ago. I asked that there was always at least two other parents at our practices, just to protect the kids, the more eyes, the better.
This is such a good point. We have to remain diligent. My husband is saying no to a week long church camp for this reason. It kind of breaks my heart. I got to do these things as a kid. I hate that we have to be so worried all the time. But I see his point, better safe than sorry.
A few years ago I worked briefly at an Episcopal church where the minister told me the scouts use the church for meetings. The leader of the troop was accused of abusing boys in their basement classrooms. She said the trial hadn't occurred yet so this guy was free to walk around the church and many of the members claimed that such a thing could never have happened with such a nice man in charge! I said "no thanks" and left that job. The minister still kept the Sunday school classrooms in the basement (with solid doors for each & no windows) just as they were with this guy able to stop by whenever. A "woke" minister in charge of a "woke" congregation. Sad that children aren't the priority!!
Unfortunately I have had a similar experience at a church he was popular( they know what they are doing) but made no effort to be friendly to me. I had no authority. In my opinion they( happened more than once) were easily spotted they butter up or brown nose ppl with influence
40+ years ago, our Cub Scout den leader magically couldn't come to our meetings anymore. Found out when I was an adult that the den leader, who was the father of a childhood friend, touched the wrong kid (cop's son) nd ended up in prison, but that the father had been touching kids for years. Twisted justice.
My first Scoutmaster was a psychopath, rather than a pedophile. It's an absolute miracle that none of us wound up in the hospital or dead from that man, and thankfully we wound up with a new Scoutmaster several months after I joined.
I know a man who is ashamed of HIS CORPS! Who refuses to watch professional sports too. I'd feel sorry for him but he's seen the falsehood of those idols he once held so strongly to. Can't even be proud of the Boy Scouts or Girls Scouts even!!
So many ruined institutions. The Scouts being overtaken by the wokesters is so infuriating. Of course they have to go for the children...
My oldest is about to eagle out, but scouts wasn’t for my two other boys. If scouts was what it is today 7 years ago we would have left during the first meeting. Once they stopped meeting on zoom they moved outdoors, with masks with hula hoops on the ground to show 6’. Outside! I won’t get into the trans activist mom rewriting the 90+ year old troop songbook. Or the fact that they now have an e-sports merit badge, or the new mandatory for eagle badge, which is just a bunch of DEI crap!
I was shocked a few days ago. We went to a grocery store and out front was a darling little girl and her dad selling girl scout cookies. We asked her to recite the pledge and she couldn’t so we said we’ll stop on our way out. They looked it up and she recited it perfectly. The shocking part, it says ‘God and Country’. I was so happy to hear that. It doesn’t say duty though.
(We bought one box, then asked her to cite it, and when she did we bought another). It’s a pleasure for us old folks to meet sweet and earnest little ones ♥️
If I had a son at scouting age he would be involved in Trail Life or nothing. Trail Life has really grown and developed. And boys can still be boys and do dangerous things boys have always done. I know some troops are different, but the Scouts have been compromised.
Love Trail Life!
A friend has started his own new boys' organization, like the Scouts of old - Florida Scouts, Troop 001:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0HzjVvyJnscBvG4TSVrhKwbRQWj6t1247tBuHVN8DVp4zJqv56yy52QXdxKfsBrphl&id=100000196612311&sfnsn=mo&mibextid=RUbZ1f
So sad he had to do that. But sure it’ll be great.
This is your experience, not ours. Mine's a Life Scout. Every troop is different, run by the kids and the parents. As always, it's important to dig into what's going on and who runs the troop before joining.
I agree. Try and schedule a paint ball outing though and see what happens. Meanwhile, you’re free to organize an entire weekend of “e-sports.”
The organization is on its way out. They lost the Mormons over their capitulation to culture, are trying to backfill with girls, all while placating the crowd that says gender is a social construct. Your troop sounds like it’s hanging in there, but rot has set in. scouts, absent a return to its founding ideals, won’t be around for our grandkids. That’s my prediction.
My older sons' troop was run by a group of outdoorsy men who really embraced the Scouting ethos so it did well. Overtime, though, as the top level of Scouting administration acquiesced to the Zeitgeist of the day, the culture changed. We didn't even consider it for my youngest son.
Same advice applies to mainstream Protestant and Catholic churches: Research your local before condemning all with a broad brush. You may be surprised at the differences between two churches in the same denomination.
Our troop did masks and zoom (enforced sort of by council). But we never did any hula hoop nonsense. I haven’t looked at the requirements for the new woke merit badge. I’m afraid I will vomit. Been in Scouts for about 15 years. At our troop level I haven’t seen any noticeable change, but I’m in a pretty conservative area.
I do think the local culture has an impact on individual troops.
My family Scouting heritage goes back to 1917 and attending the first World Scout Jamboree in 1920. In fact, I have a photograph on my wall of the entire American Scout delegation, with my grandfather proudly standing in the back row. I announced two weeks ago at our Scoutmaster Corps meeting that I am stepping down and away, as I can no longer support the BSA organization financially or as a Leader, though I will remain available as a Registered Adult to provide assistance with camping and hiking as needed (my son is still in).
It was an extremely difficult decision which has been weighing on my mind for the past few years. Aside from watching the organization twist itself into knots complying with the woke/DEI agenda, the institutional fear-mongering over COVID, the watering-down of Scouting skills mastery, and making it co-ed... far too many of the boys just aren't even taking it seriously.
Yes, our great family friend living near us when I was a boy let me see how awesome scouting was many decades ago. He was an area scouting leader. Went on camporees with my dad and our friend and I was mesmerized by the traditions. That’s all gone up in smoke.
Does anyone even see any actual Girl Scouts sell cookies anymore? I only see adults selling now. I'm glad I don't buy cookies from them anymore. Just another entity that's been overrun by the woke.
yes. I don't like cookies though, unless homemade.
Agreed
The Boy Scouts have had problems with pedophiles forever and were keeping files on abusers starting back in the 1920s.
The problem is human nature and enablers getting into positions of power.
If you want a deep dive on the Boy Scouts problems, The Intercept did a long article recently.
https://theintercept.com/2020/12/21/boy-scouts-abuse-scandal-film/
I think one of the big problems with Scouts, churches, etc., is that they attract pedophiles. We as parents must realize that pedophiles will purposely join these groups and appear normal. They'll befriend you to get near your children. Parents need to know this. We tend to be comfortable with people we see as being in our tribe, but we can't let our guards down or assume that just because an organization is good doesn't mean all the people within the organization are good.
I coached Christian Youth basketball for a while decades ago. I asked that there was always at least two other parents at our practices, just to protect the kids, the more eyes, the better.
This is such a good point. We have to remain diligent. My husband is saying no to a week long church camp for this reason. It kind of breaks my heart. I got to do these things as a kid. I hate that we have to be so worried all the time. But I see his point, better safe than sorry.
Remember what Willie Sutton said when asked why he robbed banks: "Because that's where the money is."
Why would a pedophile join the groups we've defined? "Because that's where the little kids are."
A few years ago I worked briefly at an Episcopal church where the minister told me the scouts use the church for meetings. The leader of the troop was accused of abusing boys in their basement classrooms. She said the trial hadn't occurred yet so this guy was free to walk around the church and many of the members claimed that such a thing could never have happened with such a nice man in charge! I said "no thanks" and left that job. The minister still kept the Sunday school classrooms in the basement (with solid doors for each & no windows) just as they were with this guy able to stop by whenever. A "woke" minister in charge of a "woke" congregation. Sad that children aren't the priority!!
Unfortunately I have had a similar experience at a church he was popular( they know what they are doing) but made no effort to be friendly to me. I had no authority. In my opinion they( happened more than once) were easily spotted they butter up or brown nose ppl with influence
40+ years ago, our Cub Scout den leader magically couldn't come to our meetings anymore. Found out when I was an adult that the den leader, who was the father of a childhood friend, touched the wrong kid (cop's son) nd ended up in prison, but that the father had been touching kids for years. Twisted justice.
My first Scoutmaster was a psychopath, rather than a pedophile. It's an absolute miracle that none of us wound up in the hospital or dead from that man, and thankfully we wound up with a new Scoutmaster several months after I joined.