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Lisa R's avatar

Please comment...is it possible to get Covid over and over again? I know it's not with a regular virus, you build up immunity...but Covid is engineered. I've argued with people at nauseum that the PCR test they're using is faulty and you can't get Covid 5 different times. Am I correct?

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AnnB's avatar

Agreed that the PCR is a crap test. These multiple vaxxed people have crap immune systems so they keep getting some virus but the fraudulent healthcare system keeps calling it Covid to keep the narrative alive (before all the people die suddenly and unexpectedly)

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Annie's avatar

Yes. At work, the vaxxed get rsv, pneumonia, strep etc. Now several are coming back with hemoglobin issues. The kind of issues that come from lack of oxygen and blood clots. I thought- oh no here we go. 2023 is going to be a long year. 😪

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Wish they would start giving D-Dimers to everyone.

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OnTheJump's avatar

THAT would be great. THAT would be opening quite the can of worms, though - like asking a question to which one does not want the answer.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

I also wish for mandatory autopsies on those that have been vaxx'd. Too many are cremated, like immediately. They died suddenly, but no one wants to know why their loved one died suddenly?

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Peace's avatar

Even without autopsying all the died suddenlys, it takes at least 6 months to get autopsy results. Imagine the wait if all the d.s. were autopsied.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Life is hard, DNA takes forever too. And yes, EVERYONE IS SHORT STAFFED! If I hear that too many more times in places I go I am gonna flip my lid. Deal w/it people and learn to over come, get creative, make do. Sorry, not directed at you, just something I hear daily that is an excuse for everything these days.

Anyway, we have to start tracking this stuff at some point.

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Annie's avatar

And if they hadn't fired the unvaccinated they might not be short staff. I have no sympathy for the current compliant medical community.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

No argument from me. I do feel bad for the patients that need to be seen and can't get timely appointments. That seems to be an ongoing battle from people I speak with.

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Annie's avatar

And not being able to admit the real cause of their issues. Remember. #ABV

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Several peeps I have suggested they get one, they ask what it is, I haven't heard whether they followed up, but I do try. It also depends on if the doctor is willing to do one. They really seem to resent when patients request tests.

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CaplT's avatar

⬆️this

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Annie...Are any of them making a connection to the covid shots? Or are they waiting with bated breath for their next booster?

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Annie's avatar

Some may get boosters. Others I can't tell. I find it odd they talk to me about it as it's well known I am unvaxxed and medically adverse. I think they want to see if I am experiencing any issues. I play dumb. If they ask, I will tell them I am fine and it's the vaxx.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

That's because the polymerase chain reaction is just that -- a chain reaction carried out on genetic material. Just because whores and liars call it a "test" does not make it one.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Smok'in hot! Love it.

Later Jay

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thanks, Jay! :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

And before that, get “long Covid.”

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Annie's avatar

Which is now becoming long vaxx.

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Donna in MO's avatar

well, crap. I had to have a test before a colonoscopy in early 2022. I almost cancelled when I found out I had to test, but did go ahead and do it. Although my unjabbed sister had to test twice a week for over a year as punishment for not getting the shot at her job. So far no issues.

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Lisa R's avatar

My husband, (a physician) continues to tell me that there are innumerable Corona viruses, (like the common cold) and the PCR test will pop positive for all of them. I was just wondering if I was missing something when people keep telling me they have Covid again. It's almost like the "trans" issue...mass formation psychosis.

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daverkb's avatar

People, even smart people, seem not to discriminate carefully enough. Instead they will go with the a word or words given to them, repeated endlessly ... and drilled endlessly into their heads. Such a word is Covid. The result of this and even from people who appear to be on our side is this. Ask anyone who got sick during the PsyOp what they got and they all will invariably say covid. I don't argue with such people. Instead, I will tell you two things which I know.

First, all cause mortality did not rise in 2020/2021 and thereafter until the injections began to be administered. Near the very beginning of this madness I ran the local figures for my area in Virginia and in the county of one of my sister-in-laws living in Maryland. This was mid-year 2020. And I found that mortality was in the same range as in any other pre-plandemic year. And second was this. I noticed that in the media reports every one dying was ostensibly dying from 'covid' and nothing else ... and furthermore that normal flu season had mysterious disappeared from the face of the earth. These two pragmatic observations are two tells which ought to give people serious pause ... and yet people still talk 'covid' as though it were a real thing ... and the only thing people can catch.

PCR tests? I only know what people say. As for me, I think the PCR test is unreliable and a tool for propaganda manipulation. But no matter what the PCR test is, I still know all cause deaths did not rise until the toxic injections began to be administered and that normal flu season inexplicable disappeared with the advent of 'covid 19' and as of yet has never returned. What can be know with certainty is what is determinate, and it trumps all other speculation no matter how interesting. From all of this what I have learned is this, that people, even supposedly smart 'learned' people, can be willingly led to their own self-destruction by the power of Word Magic. And that Word Magic is the Devil's Tool par excellence.

How lucky you are ... and congratulations. You married a smart prudent man! This must be of great comfort and solace. And indeed, there are innumerable corona viruses, and has always been so.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

"...and furthermore that normal flu season had mysterious disappeared from the face of the earth." --

Mid March 2020 relatively early days when the fear was being whipped up, visiting my elderly mom wanting to calm her fears I went to CDC website to look at numbers, covid-19 compared to P&I (pneumonia and influenza). Found historical data and current weekly data. At that moment in time morbidity and mortality for covid-19 was unremarkable, less than P&I. --

Within four or five days I revisited the CDC website aiming for the same data/page and spent nearly half an hour trying to relocate where I had been, which hadn't been hard to find. I couldn't find any current P&I data. It was gone. This made no sense to me and something about it was... strange, and suspicious. The next day lockdowns arrived. And the dots kept cropping up, in relatively quick succession, ever so suspiciously connecting. --

So yep, flu disappeared from the face of the earth. Didn't exist anymore. I was the only one that asked out loud, Why do you need a shot to prevent against something that doesn't exist? Vilified I was. I don't know what I'm talking about. My extended family of origin is a bunch of dunderheads. Strict MSM diet. So frustrating and sad. Everybody jumped to get v'd. Yadda.

Right with you on your observations, particularly mind manipulation via language. What a trip this has been, resorting to the 100 miles up view of the planet. Thank God for The Resistance. Blessings. 🙏

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks ... and most astonishing, and I am still flabbergasted, why did everybody and everything go so stock raving insane. What made sense and what did not was in plain sight the whole time, simple stuff. And one does not have to be a highly trained scientist to figure this stuff out. Covid and 911, and now the Ukraine debacle.

And the allege vaccine fraud. Pure, plain and simple, mRNA nano lipid particulate, this cannot possible be a vaccine. This, of course, is the worst Evil I have seen in a lifetime, and really the last murderous twenty-two some years in particular.

Yes, what a trip. Simply unbelievable. My heart feels for anyone's mom who had to have this rank evil inflicted upon them.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Oh I spent a ton of time in 2020 trying to make sense of the CDC site. They kept changing the narrative, so I started screen shotting. For instance, they took down a page that said ""we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks." Poof! Gone later on. Or they moved it somewhere I couldn't find it.

And yes, they basically cancelled flu surveillance in 2020, and lumped everything to CLI - Covid-like illness. "Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, this system will suspend data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season. Data from previous seasons are available on FluView Interactive. "

The weekly hospitalization (remember 'hospitals are overflowing!!' ?) report showed that the highest number of ED visits for the entire year of 2020 were in JANUARY, before covid theoretically even started. And that s when my husband and I likely had it. Only time we were sick in 2020 and tested positive for antibodies in Dec 2020. If you believe the test.

BUT the weekly ED visits data is GONE. Got curious and just looked. The new chart does not include raw numbers, and it is blank (N/A) for Jan -Aug 8 2020 time period?? I used the link I included on the spreadsheet I had saved with the downloads, and the page is completely different. It's still on archive.org though, so they haven't scrubbed that yet.

I could go on, but I would send people links from CDC and then when they went to them they were either different or gone. One of the main reasons I smelled a rat on this whole issue from the beginning.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

No surprise to me.

I remember Fauci saying very early on, Feb, March 2020, that masks were useless. I could get behind that since I knew it to be the case from a healthcare career. When he flipped April, May-ish, at first I was dumbstruck: why would he say that? That lasted about a minute. Another "dot" from the government.

I was a total tin foil hat nut job for a couple of weeks in the beginning. Then I just shut up. Already had issues with the narcissist-bully sibling that I hadn't engaged with for years and that was the loudest voice against me. Not worth it. Good on you pursuing the cover up. I had a small circle that saved my sanity over the last few years. Started as 3, now up to 6! Riding it out. Have the occasional, positive brief exchange in public when I make a sane comment and the other person is open-minded enough to respond intelligently. Mostly, I feel for the duped who have regret. I need to be a source of support vs. denigrating them for their stupidity. They were manipulated. I try to drop that into the exchange with a warning to be careful and watchful in the future. Yadda. Venting.🤪😅

God's brightest blessings on Jeff Childers.

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Donna in MO's avatar

YES! Jeff has been one of the lights in the darkness ever since he started on Medium, and then got cancelled and had to go to Substack. He, Dr. Frank, and el gato malo were voices of sanity early on.

I do research for business planning (self employed) for a living and when project after project cancelled or put on hold I threw all my energy into this covid mess. Origin of the virus, treatment protocols, sketchy data, those ridiculous 'models' with NO methodology anywhere to be found. My covid file on my computer has over 1300 files in 31 folders. I shared prolifically with anyone and everyone who would listen. I can take on anyone who wants to argue with links, data, studies, timelines, and the rest. But guess what, almost no one had anything of substance to argue back, they instead resorted to name calling and insults. It was a lonely time save a few sane friends who did listen.

The silver lining is that I have a whole new circle. Found groups who were meeting in person, got more involved politically, and that has become a new lifeline. Knocked over 2000 doors last year for candidates from school board to US Senate. Good conversations at some of the doors, and of course some who just want to cuss me out. Oh well, next. And frankly, I can hardly even stand going to just plain social things where people just want to talk about Taylor Swift and Netflix and other mindless blather. Oh it's a nice escape for an hour or so and then I am looking for a way out. My hubby gets annoyed at me if he is having a good time so I smile and nod and look at my watch, lol. He's awake, but the political bug didn't bite him as hard as it did me, so I get even by dragging him to some of those political dinners and events where he gets to smile and nod.

I too feel bad for the duped, I still see people in masks, although not like a year or so ago.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Although I didn’t dive into the data quite as much, I did so much reading about Covid and masks and then the vaccines. I don’t have a background in the natural sciences or medicine so no one would listen to me 🙄 It felt pretty lonely sometimes. Substack and Gab were lifelines to me. I could find people who were asking questions and not just blindly following the protocols and the narrative.

Because of all the time I spend reading and informing myself, I am also more politically engaged than my husband is. He works very hard and I think he just doesn’t have the mental energy for it. But sometimes he seems to think I’m a little extreme. I don’t care though. I know what I’ve learned and I am glad my eyes are more open than ever. I can help my family make good decisions based on what I know.

Isn’t it telling how people immediately start with the name calling and mockery when they have no actual facts to counter your information or your questions? (Reminds me of the two trolls here also)

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Donna in MO's avatar

Hubby and I are a case study in opposites attract. I am the Type A always in motion and have to have projects and he is the most laid back chill person I know. I think I have seen him legit angry maybe half a dozen times in 33 years of marriage. But he keeps me off the ledge from time to time, lol.

And yes, my background is business and finance. I almost forgot the 'Oh since when are you a medical professional?' comment. That was a big one, especially early on. True, but have done research for clients in the space, so the learning curve was a little less steep. And it doesn't take a medical professional to see that this stuff never passed the smell test. I am just used to finding, vetting and organizing data in a way that I can use it to help my clients understand things. The process doesn't change by industry. Although I did learn a lot about scientific and medical topics as I had the time to go deeper into it since everything else was cancelled. Wish I never HAD to learn about gain of function though.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

You have a leg up on 98% of the world as a researcher. You have the tools, the expertise and people don't get it. The sector of investigation doesn't matter. Learn enough, in a hurry, and, well, let's just say you *should* be a go-to person. People have proven disappointing in this boat we're all supposed to be adrift in, trying to get our bearings. I've tossed most of them into the brig. I'm making it with a small crew. ....

Good for you getting motivated politically. I hope you have some responsive office holders. It's dirty business at most levels, worse the higher up they get. I'm slogging through Whitney Webb's One Nation Under Blackmail. The level of detail is important but a challenge to process, mind boggling. The big picture is ugly and unsurprising that moral degeneracy is par for the course. Our "leaders" are in large part the least fit to lead. Along with a most significant part of the machinery. Since forever. They get off on exerting power and control and money buys them all of that plus fulfillment of their depraved desires. Their ilk stops at nothing; they have no conscience. The psychopath/sociopath thing. I have a sibling who is a mere narcissist and that's bad enough. I also understand that the only way to change things is through the political process. Good for you diving in. As an HSP -highly sensitive person, yep, it's a thing- I have to pick my movements with exquisite care. Live politics is off the table. We need people like you. Do it, sister. With your new circle, a new brighter phase of life. Yup, gotta shed the newly discovered dead weight. What a trip this is. 🌎

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Donna in MO's avatar

Mixed results. Got 3 out of 5 conservatives onto an all liberal school board in spring of 22 and 23, and 2 conservatives out of 4 onto city council, but not good results at the county, which is solid blue on the KC side with a lot more population than the redder part to the east. Eric Schmitt, the rock star AG who, along with the Louisiana AG filed the Missouri v Biden case, won his primary and got elected to the US Senate. Win some, ya lose some. I know several state reps personally, and they are genuine honest guys who are fighting the good fight, although the lobbyists really run the statehouse despite a R super-majority. It's frustrating as h*ll at times, but just consider, what are the alternatives but to keep fighting? This infiltration by the left did not happen overnight, so it's like turning a battleship.

And "our leaders are least fit to lead". True. The skills to get elected are different than the skills to be a good leader many times. I ran for city council and lost in 2018, got 40% against a long time incumbent, but it wore me out. I am much better as the data geek behind the scenes vs being the attention whore. I do love knocking doors and talking to people one on one, but raising money and promoting myself were not strengths. Stuff I could learn, but for now am content to stay behind the scenes. I am self employed and made zero dollars the 3 months before the election as I was too busy running. People don't realize how tough being an elected person really is. You are 'on' 24/7, way more issues than you really have time or knowledge to address, and the pay is pitiful. $11K for city council which is almost a full time job if you do it right. State rep is ~$35K and some per diem when legislature is in session. Most people who can afford to run are either retired, business owners with businesses that they don't run or have employers, like law firms, who are OK with them being gone a lot. The pool of people who both WANT to run, and CAN afford to run is actually pretty small. That is also part of the problem.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

You did better locally than my blue pocket in a supposedly red state. I fear that legislature RINOs are a bloc that belies the redness. Locally, zero shift in school board, city council and county commissioners. All 100% blue. --

Correct the infiltration-takeover took time. At least two generations locally if not more. Nationally, it started in earnest with Paper Clip, so three generations ago. I listened to a relatively riveting podcast on the strategy and slow, calculated, methodical, patient infiltration by the Communists into societal institutions that began earlier, which march was reinforced and strengthened with Paper Clip. Turning a battleship is a good analogy/metaphor. It was a while ago when I heard the podcast. If I can find it (4-episode series if I remember correctly) I'll post a link. --

Indeed, the founders were gentlemen farmers or successful merchants, a class that could afford to be away from home for weeks at a time. Government pay sucks, except for bureaucratic sinecures, so yeah electeds in general belong to a special class. Good that you identified your strengths and weaknesses, right? I'm a total introvert (Heterodox Introvert :) so have at it whoever wants that job of running for and holding office. Though as you point out running unsuccessfully can be deflating, I'm sure even for those who have different strengths/fortitude. It takes all kinds, which covers a lot of territory, but it's true. The world would be awfully boring if we were all like me. Aside from which we'd drive each other crazy speaking of multiple personality disorder. 🤪

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Donna in MO's avatar

Funny your description of your state sounds a lot like MO, sadly. Super-majority is a disadvantage as it lulls too many back to sleep, thinking 'we got this'. No, we don't. D's demand lockstep compliance, the R's are all over the place. The State R Party Platform is little more than a paperweight, although I will temper that to say that there are areas of the state where a 'far right' (I hate that term as it's turned into a slur but shorthand for those who are small government, Pro life, Pro 2A and have balls to stand up to the woke) candidate is going to struggle to win so a squishy R still is better than a D. But then they all get to the capitol and fight all session long.

And yes, I saw the introvert in your name and figured you weren't going to be door knocking any time soon, lol. It's too bad the political process lends itself to the extroverts, as we need the introverts, who tend to be the ones who are informed, thoughtful and can work behind the scenes to get stuff done. I am a weird mix. Perfectly happy to be home with a book or going out to events and such and meeting new people, Just too much of one or the other and I start to get antsy. Hated the 3-4 months when everything was cancelled, including my income so hubby and I did mostly stay home as we didn't have much $ to do anything anyway although he did get back to working faster than me. It was great to get a lot of home projects done but I still missed being out there. So I don't know what I am. My daughter is very introverted and loved working from home and going nowhere. Her car battery even went dead from sitting too long! So yeah, we all need each other!!

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Lisa R's avatar

So glad you had others around you for support...my husband and I stood alone, trying to educate and as most people on this blog, were vilified. I'm exhausted and I'm getting to the point where I just don't care. Had a conversation with an friend who actually said she wasn't sure she'd get the booster this fall...really!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Oh I am willing to be that 'exhausted' is something nearly everyone on this substack has experienced for at least part or all of these last 3 or so years. I have to take breaks (although I do still read C&C) for a few weeks at a time from all the negativity and news and just focus on my flower beds or cleaning out a closet if it's winter. And we've all lost friends or family or both to the Narrative. YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

It is exhausting! for sure. Don't know if you're informed about HSPs -highly sensitive persons- (Elaine Aron, PhD wrote the book) but if you are one, which I am (finally figured out 7 or 8 years ago what's been "wrong" with me my whole life) it's doubly, triply, quadruply exhausting. I had to forsake the live fray. Pull inward and keep the 3 people close, though all are distant so text and calls were it though savior of my sanity. Let me support you and vote it's ok not to care so much for a spell. My spell has lasted since 2020. Quite a spell. I don't look forward to reconnecting with old friends by phone since I can tell by text they might anxiously be off to the next booster. A friend's husband died recently. Turbo cancer. 4 months from Dx to death. I can't say a word. I keep talking to the husband in my head (apologies if I conflict with beliefs) asking him to guide my friend to wake up. Yadda. Hang in there. Just a little bite of support for you on a Tuesday.

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Lisa R's avatar

🥰

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Dianne Denson's avatar

I never did any research (on CDC site, etc). Just relied on my gut instinct. 🙂

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Donna in MO's avatar

I just got into it with a friend (who is now probably a former friend) who told me that my constant talking about all of the scams around covid were hurtful to people like her whose dad died 'from covid' and that I was lacking in compassion. How do you argue with people who want to make this all about emotion? I reminded her that I lost a good friend to the hospital protocol, remdesivir and the vent, and that if she wanted to be angry, be angry at the hospitals and doctors who put liability protection ahead of patient care.

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daverkb's avatar

The answer, as you know, is that one cannot argue with people who are incapable of thinking things out for themselves. And this is so sad as is the smashing up of families. But really! That is what 'they' the Woke Marxist elites want ... to destroy the family. And apparently Western Civilization along with it.

Having to live through this is, and is going to be, a hard row to hoe ... and heartbreaking. And this is understatement. But I see no alternative but to resist Evil and to build up Good. To do otherwise is to lose all healthy self-conception, to becomes a kind of walking suicide. Not really any kind of good option.

Such as you describe, this is happening all over the place. And I for one am not going to just forget what 'they' have done to us and reconcile ... and forgive and forget. We have been too badly assaulted in all essentials which count.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, you are right. I got cancelled by a lot of people early on in this thing. This particular friend was an anomaly in that she took my advice and used the zelenko protocol I gave her when she got covid. But then ignored me and got the shot a couple of months later 'as that protected her from variants'. She is a D but not really political and so had managed to stay friends. It's sad but I try to talk sense to people. I am not really a confrontational person, but everyone has their breaking point. I am done. It's been over 3 years and if none of this has gotten through to you I don't think I can help.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m sorry, I had someone who I thought was a good friend send me texts in the beginning of 2021 telling me that she didn’t really want to be around me anymore because I was “uncaring” about the people affected by Covid 🙄 Since I wasn’t on board with the lockdowns and masks and mandates. It was very hurtful and upsetting to me at the time. I reminded her that my brother was killed through effects of the lockdowns and my family’s business was affected. But apparently those aren’t important 🙄 I actually don’t have any regrets about losing what I thought was a friendship, if just showed me how shallow and easily manipulated she was and also that she didn’t even value our relationship at all. For your sake I hope your friend reconsiders and sees your pov at least. It’s hard when people you think are your friends are more influenced by the media and “experts” than they are by their actual experiences and relationships with their friends.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, covid killed friendships, sadly. l lost who I thought was my best friend since college, actually over my support for Trump and the Jan 6 incident, when I said this was a psy-op and a lot of these folks were goaded into it. She actually listened to me about a lot of the covid stuff, and I knew she didn't like Trump but we used to still be able to get together and have meaningful conversations. But she went over the edge - moved to the Lake of the Ozarks area around that time to be closer to her dad and hit the leftist and covid kool-aid hard. Kept picking fights with me on social media, and started that uncaring, selfish for not getting the shot stuff. Saying if anyone who supported Trump was a bigot and racist. Her nephew died of a fentanyl OD and I went to his funeral to see her, and she, in person, admitted that her niece who she had said died of covid actually died of liver failure due to alcoholism. Never really apologized though, just said, a lot of things are not as they seem. Her hubby invited us down for a long weekend, and said she would get in touch about calendars, but she never did. Came to both of my kids weddings (my hubby said to un-invite her but I am an idiot that couldn't seem to get the message) that summer and fall, but spent more time talking to my sisters than me. I guess I thought she was going to come to her senses, but after a couple of more social media barbs I just unfriended her and let it go. She lives 3 hours away now, so the odds of running into each other are slim. This latest dust-up was really the last in the line of my pre-covid D friends, we'd been friends since HS, although we only got together a few times a year and didn't really have much in common any more. It's so weird that most of my long time friends were all D's when I have not been a D since the mid-80's and I have been involved with R politics all this time. (well I did campaign for Ross Perot) But we always managed to work that out and have plenty to talk about. Now, everything is political, and I just find myself having little tolerance for those who prefer being woke over being awake. During Tucker's TPUSA speech near the end, he made the point that a lot of this culture war stuff is really just a 'distraction to keep us from noticing they are destroying the country'. That really resonated with me. If I get on FB, my feed is every other post people talking about Jason Aldean. Yeah he is being cancelled over BS, but there is a LOT more important news to talk about. FB is nearly as vapid as the MSM any more. Thank God for Substack.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s definitely been both eye opening and disheartening to see the friends who choose their political tribe over their longtime friendships. You can really tell who is afraid of not going along with the crowd and of standing up for themselves. Or those who don’t want to think, but to rely on others to think in their stead.

“Now, everything is political, and I just find myself having little tolerance for those who prefer being woke over being awake.”

Yes. This.

I have had a very similar experience, I used to have lots of friends with very different political perspectives and appreciated our exchanges and discussions but now it’s just “bigot, racist, conspiracy theorist” type of responses and not meaningful and thoughtful conversation. Very sad. Even when they don’t say it to me directly, if I see them make a post on Facebook insulting people who like Trump, didn’t get the shots, etc., I know that’s what they think of me and it’s hard to get past that.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, it's hard to figure out just 'what happened to her'. She and I bonded in college over both of us being involved in Student Government. Both grew up lower middle class, both first in our families to graduate college, both worked our way through, neither of us were follow the crowd types. Over the years she drifted into the intellectual class, moved up the ladder in a foundation that started shifting leftward, never got her PhD but started hanging with that crowd, where I landed in the business world and kept going to the right. But we could still debate, disagree and stay friends. Trumps election in 2016 added a new layer of tension, the writing was on the wall, but don't think either of us wanted to see it. We were going through the motions. I am not sure what prompted her to come out of the blue and attack me but it was inevitable that the friendship was going to end. Guess it's kind of like people who stay in an unhappy marriage due to inertia and then the inevitable blow up happens and everyone goes "What happened?!" I care less that the friendship ended and more that she is not the same friend she was back when we were close. But suppose I am not the same either. I just have less tolerance for bullsh*t than I used to. Maybe a microcosm of conservatives as a whole. We were too nice, too non confrontational, too assured that common sense would prevail. Then Trump came along. I couldn't stand him at first, I was a Carson supporter and then I went to Cruz. But he's grown on me over the years, and while I still think his mouth runs faster than his brain at times, he is right that we need to punch back.

But yeah, most of my ex-friends were more just bandwagon people, don't pay enough attention to realize they are living in a fantasy world. Mark Twain "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

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RunningLogic's avatar

It is like a grieving process when you lose a friendship like that 😞

I have very similar feelings about Trump, I definitely can identify with what you wrote.

You know, your description of your friend reminded me of a post Naomi Wolf wrote a while back, about fitting in with the leftist intellectual class. If you haven’t read it yet, you might find it an interesting read.

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Thanks for sharing that. Yeah, 39 years, we had been through all kinds of ups and downs together. I am not sure it applies as much to her as she never really assimilated the lifestyle. Just the politics, and the religious fervor/'virtue'. This idea that the 'little people' need government cheese and guidance. And Wolf may have something there with the idea that it's about power. Wokism is her new religion. We were both Catholic although neither of us went to church much in our early 20's but I went back to it, and she wandered in and out until she pretty much quit going a decade or so ago. Got laid off from her job in 2020 and she and her hubby moved 3 hours away to be closer to her aging dad in early 2021 and it's a deep red area. Started complaining about how the people there were uncaring and 'ignoring covid' and being selfish for not getting jabbed. That her Hispanic husband 'faced discrimination and micro aggressions'. Never mind she ignored covid when she lived close, at least around me!? Too many Trump flags put her over the edge? Anyway, she used to have flashes of her old sanity so thought perhaps she would come around, but guess not. Her latest rant yelling at me that I had no compassion and was a bigot like Trump was the end of it. We'd argued before, but she never got personal.

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nt's avatar

“Covid” is a word people use to explain an illness that they have never experienced before . With symptoms like loss of taste, or parosmia…stuff that is beyond the “normal “ flu symptoms/experiences we have all been used to.

You know *strange* baffling or particularly nasty symptoms they can’t categorize . …

It seems the word *covid* apparently triggers some people …

So , as an unvaxxed person trying to describe this *new* type of sick experience ….

It would be nice to know an alternative word ???

I caught the *Fauci *? Or I had *GOF* (gain of function) three times ??

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daverkb's avatar

One-ism is a dangerous philosophical attitude. Especially in a world wherein a huge multiplicity of agendas were being initiated and facilitated under a single cover of mass panic. As to the mass fixation on 'covid', all other agenda objectives were achieved beyond all dreams. To this day, for example, most people still don't know that the world's financial/economic problems were not initiated by the planetary covid lock-downs and mandates beginning March/April 2020. But instead, the world financial melt down was already well in progress by late August 2019. But to say the least, what a stroke of luck for the central bankers! With covid, nobody points a finger at them. Nope! Something else caused all the mess. Convenience is never to be belittled.

It is too much to go into here with arguing the word covid this way and that, and how Word Magic has led the entire world into doing that which they would otherwise not do on their own accord. So instead, here is a video which closely mirrors my own views, but in a much more professionally detailed way. When you are finished, you might go back an re-read what I have written and see if you can see it in another light. We all are, me including, prisoners of our own minds. If it were not so, we would not be living under total tyranny in West as we do so sadly now. The video is one of the best out there.

https://rumble.com/v2ohtte-physicist-dr-denis-rancourt-presents-his-findings-on-all-cause-mortality-ot.html

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Donna in MO's avatar

Wow I thought I was pretty well educated on all the BS but that was the first time I had heard antibiotic RX were cut in half. But this is why I don't like videos - where is the link to his source!? What time period? I have 2 friends who say their dads died of 'covid pneumonia' in early 2021, some kind of respiratory illness. Neither were poor though. But the were in their 80's and poor health. If they were not given antibiotics, I would say they died of malpractice!

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daverkb's avatar

Agreed ... but nonetheless everything fits a pattern already established as to 'official' sector Health Terrorism malfeasance. And so, antibiotics being withheld is not out of the question. It fits the narrative. And yet all cause mortality did not rise outside of normal parameters until after the jabs were administered.

Also, 'they' the ones behind this little operation run on us were smart enough not to do everything the same across the board. Not even the jab batches, as we now know, were not all the same. Some even seem to have been saline. Why? Maybe to scramble, play with our brains when looking at 'the data'?

I do know that if the public were knowledgeable on Health Terrorism (as well as everything else) that there would already be giant Nuremberg type trials all over the place. There is plenty of stuff out there enabling of criminal prosecutions. What do we get instead? A low grade clown show pretense of scrutiny. Unless we get some serious high level prosecutions and convictions with serious jail time, I am afraid that 'they' will do it again ... because that is what repeat offenders always do unless stopped dead in their tracks.

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nt's avatar

I agree …people do tend to get “fixated” on illness …as we are spiritual beings abiding in this often fragile physical body.

My goodness, we are known to talk about the aches and pains associated with something as mundane as aging .

I also agree, *Covid* certainly didn’t cause this mess and I am sincere when I say I’m happy to ditch the word Covid entirely.

I additionally agree with a single cover of mass panic …

Although…I’m probably still going to talk about my baffling *illness*

and Mr. Childers will probably continue to talk about the shot …

And I agree, we should all probably be focused on something else …

We are just so human.

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daverkb's avatar

I agree. And when I reflect back on the Obama years and Obama's use of the words 'radical transformation', I remember saying to myself ... "What the heck does that mean?" Now I know that Obama literally meant EVERYTHING. And now even 'hacking the wetware' meaning us, this too is I am afraid, a reality present and existential.

And actually, I just want to be human and back to normal. And let this demonic, insane world find an early grave.

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daverkb's avatar

Also, you might like this. It is a very coherent statement of things. All cause mortality is the difference between truth and fiction. The statement and conclusions are wider than the title would suggest.

https://rumble.com/v2ohtte-physicist-dr-denis-rancourt-presents-his-findings-on-all-cause-mortality-ot.html

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Covid feels different from other innocuous Corona viruses. I’d trust the people who tell you this. Remember the virus mutates rapidly ( more so than naturally due to the leaky vaccines) and there is the possibility it changes enough to reinfect.

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For anyone doing very deep research into what we're up against, the Substack below is amazing. Seems they really did create and release a Frankenstein, and they have no idea, not even conjecture, about why it is behaving the way it is. Don't miss for the deep research fans: https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/china-owns-nature-magazines-ass-6f8?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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nt's avatar

This 💯

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I had covid early in 2020 (hate antibodies) and again in 2021 and 2022. I am not vaccinated I do NOT get flu shots; have never had flu. I tested negative for flu and positive on covid on rapid and PCR. You feel really different with covid than a cold. It’s real. It’s a bio-weapon and you need to treat it early if you get it. The FLCCC saw many sad cases. But yes, did most survived it. It does mutate. I have never had long covid because I do take it seriously.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

And treat early.

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devoalan's avatar

My NYS relatives get it over and over, and I think they buy those tests by the gross. And no matter what we tell them, they think we are just those crazy Floridians. I have Togo north to see my mom, just turned 94. She's starting to lose it, but I refuse to fly now, and don't want to force my bride, suffering herself, to go on that trip. So I think I'll be driving myself up there.

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rolandttg's avatar

He's right

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NAB's avatar

And given the usually mild presentation of Omicron, why are people even testing at this point? Just say you have a cold and be done with it.

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rolandttg's avatar

There is no test. Even the inventor of the PCR said it was never designed for this, and anything above 30 cycles (1 million X amplification of the sample) makes the results worthless. The labs who did the testing would not even tell the doctors who submitted the tests how many cycles they ran, but it was consistently over 30, and up to 45. 40 cycles means 1 trillion times amplification, at which a paw paw, coca cola, and a goat will (and did) test positive for covid.

It was a testing plandemic, NOT a virus pandemic.

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Peace's avatar

Early on, I called a few local labs doing the PCR tests. Two of them coughed up the info they were testing at 45 cycles (after a big runaround of people having no idea what I was even talking about!). One lab that did only saliva PCR tests was running their tests at 55 cycles!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not surprising but really disgusting!!

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

They assassinated the pawpaw goat guy for doing those tests. It made me angry and sad, he seemed to be a good man.

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daverkb's avatar

The designation of PCR has entered into the realm of Word Magic. Just say the magic words PCR and 'tested positive for' ... and it's an slam dunk that one caught 'covid'. And nothing else.

Oh! How I long for a normal flue season of the 'good old days' before the Era of Health Terrorism!

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Robert F. Kennedy:

A government that can censor its critics is licensed for every atrocity. It is the beginning of totalitarianism. There's never been a time in the history when we look back and the guys who were censoring people were the good guys. All of us grew up reading Arthur Koestler, Robert Heinlein, Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, and they were all saying the same thing. Once you start censoring, you're on your way to dystopia and totalitarianism.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/rf-kennedy-jr-accusations-and-rebuttal?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

I guess I should say it... I don't think we should trust the "tests" as benign. This whole plandemic is a military psy-ops and killing machine. IMO, even the tests are dangerous to your health and are probably making people sick. I keep hearing of people "catching covid" 3, 4, 5, 6 times and these are the same people who are constantly "testing" out of induced fear. Don't test, don't take the shot - DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING. Nothing is as it seems!

This whole thing is like an onion. Layer after layer after layer of deception. When you think you have exposed the lie and gotten to the truth, all you have really done is just discovered another layer of deception. From the very beginning, Wuhan was set up to take the blame when the narrative began to unravel to deflect from whatever the actual truth is. And sure enough, as soon as the narrative became too thin to hold together, they "admitted" the "virus" originated in Wuhan. Another lie so you don't look any further. And when that unravels, as it surely will, there will be another lie to deflect from the truth. Almost from the beginning, I suspected that Wuhan would eventually take the blame and the actual truth is world's away from that lie. Every piece of this plandemic is a smokescreen to protect the satanic cabal that is systematically killing the populations of the white West and instituting a complete totalitarian NWO. They are culling the human race of people they can't control. This attack, this war, is far from over. We are being replaced.

I can't prove any of this. The only thing I know for sure is this: Covid is NOT what they say it is. It is first and foremost a military psy-ops of the USG military. Dr. David Martin has documented the patent trail of the chimeric laboratory creation called Covid. As he maintains, it most certainly is not a virus, at least not by any conventional definition. It could be part synthetic "parasite" and God knows what DNA pieces have been included. Whatever you want to call it, it's not natural. Furthermore, the so-called virus has never been isolated from an infected person. Really?! A "virus" that has plagued the entire world has NEVER been isolated from an infected person?!! The SECOND thing this tells me for sure is that there is no virus. If it's never been isolated, then it doesn't exist. It's simple as that.

Another fact that Dr. Martin has documented is that the chimeric laboratory creation is replication defective which means it can't spread very far. Even if it wasn't, there is no way it could spread around the world the way it did from a single point of origin. This would only be possible if the infectious agent was simultaneously deployed on purpose around the globe to mimic a pandemic. This deployment simply initiated the "pandemic". The rest was all psy-ops smoke and mirrors.

This past Friday I posted a comment that traced our present troubles back to the Philadelphia Convention of 1787. You can read it here:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/now-fed-friday-july-21-2023-c-and/comment/21129964?utm_campaign=reaction&utm_medium=email&utm_source=substack&utm_content=comment

What I didn't address in that comment was what motivated Washington and his fellow conspirators to do what they did. Patrick Henry, who was a solid Christian and a fire-brand for liberty, knew and he wanted no part of it. I have a framed picture that was published in the Congressional calendar four decades ago of the tapestry that hangs in the Capitol rotunda depicting George Washington laying the cornerstone of the United States Capitol on Sept. 18, 1793 in a Masonic ceremony. Mind you, not a Christian ceremony but a Masonic ceremony with Washington in full 33rd degree regalia. For those interested, here is a link but I warn you, it is a deep rabbit hole:

https://dfreality.substack.com/cp/135386061

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daverkb's avatar

There is the Wicker Gate and the straight and narrow. And then everything else the world and the wages of sin. And also, the Son of Thunder is my best beloved of the era.

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AngelaK's avatar

Interesting! I believe that I remember hearing that many 'successful' businessmen, though belonging to Christian faith traditions, belong to masonry. Obviously, their worldly 'success' is given to them by the master of this world. 😬

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I just roll my eyes when someone tells me they have covid.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

That too.

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On an island's avatar

Paxlovid is known for giving you recurring Covid. I would bet anything that he took big pharma’s faulty fix.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Paxlovid? How about the covid vaccine making you more susceptible to covid in general?

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On an island's avatar

Vaxxed people getting Covid again and again is likely due to immune system destruction. To compound things, if they take Paxlovid, it is documented to cause rebound. Vicious cycle.

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CMCM's avatar

The people I know of who have been getting recurring covid over the past couple of years are all vaccinated. None that I know of got Paxlovid.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I never really looked into Paxlovid, I just associated it with something I should avoid (like the shots).

Maybe a substack on it could be useful. @Jeff

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CaplT's avatar

Paxlovid masks the symptoms for a while threats negative, then COVID comes back. Remember Fraudchi and OHarris getting COVID after Paxlovid? Happened quite a bit.

Similar to Sudafed, which dries nasal passages but it is not an antihistamine. You are still allergic, and allergies didn’t go away. Stop taking Sudafed and you are full on watery dry eyes etc.

Paxlovid is questionably harmful in itself, but I’d think it’s more that people are fooled into believing they are cured and go back to full-on life too soon. And get others sick.

Unvaxxed can get it more than once. It happened in our family, but mild as if light allergies. Took Sudafed. Ha

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I had Covid 2x. Once with the original strain and it was

Miserable.

Second time I didn’t know I had it. Basically allergies

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MaryAnn's avatar

By “he” do you mean Dickie D from IL? He has Long Term Senatoritis. 😖

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Obelisk's avatar

I'm pretty sure you can get it twice, but with a non corrupted immune system seems rare. I've still never gotten it, my brother got in during alpha phase and never again. Most unvaxxed I know only got it once.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I’ve had something 3 times, unjabbed but shedding issues. Helping fully boosted elderly family . On lots of supplements precovid for biotoxin mold illness and autoimmune issues.

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rolandttg's avatar

Shedding is a real issue, so what you are getting is not covid, but more issues associated with the spike protein and the other poisons they put in the jabs. We take nattokinase every day as a prophylactic to shedding.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Thanks. Makes me wonder what covid actually is?! I pronounce it “ bio weapon “, virus and jab.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

& it’s a bio weapon. Probably many varieties?

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nt's avatar

Agree!

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Robin Evancoe's avatar

I am non-jabbed, generally very healthy and have had Covid twice. The second time I believe was connected to hanging out closely with many jabbed family members.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Yeah, every time I am around the vaxx'd in large groups I come home w/some sort of something. I take my remedies and it goes away quickly, thankfully, but it has happened enough that I am convinced shedding is a real thing. I want a test to check to see if the spike proteins are in my body now.

I spray myself with Brio-tech before I go out and do the mouthwash peroxide thing and that seems to help.

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Peace's avatar

May I suggest twice daily Xlear nasal spray to kill any type of virus that might be in your sinus cavity before it has a chance to do its damage?

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

I have too many pets to use that stuff. I like my Briotech, the key is to remember to use it before I leave the house. Any cooties I get I am able to ward off w/other things I do. My point is going out and being around a large quantity of vaxx'd people has convinced me shedding is real.

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Janet's avatar

I got it in alpha too. Like a runny nose. Nada since. I didn’t test at the time but got an antibody test months later—for what any of those tests are worth. 🤔🙄

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Donna in MO's avatar

Same, although I was legit sick in Jan 2020. Fatigue, lost taste and smell, fever, cough. Coughed for 3 months even after the rest of the symptoms abated. But then gave blood in Dec 2020 and they were doing antibody tests. Sent a letter saying I had antibodies. Haven't been sick since, although I have upped my immune system game since reading Dr Zelenko and Dr. McCullough's advice.

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Janet's avatar

👍🏻

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Karen Bandy's avatar

My unvaxxed naturopath got something 3 times. He has teenage kids and of course sees lots of his patients, and partners patients are in and out of the building. Go figure.

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CaplT's avatar

We got it twice un vax. 2nd time I only knew bc a non vax acquaintance I was traveling with got a bad sinus infection toward the end and tested positive. I got the sinus infection but not so bad. Tested when I got home, positive. Felt better in 3 days. Took usual vitamins and equine therapy. Tested neg within 4 days.

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daiva's avatar

Pretty much boils down to gazillion-$$ question: What the heck is covid, after all? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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rolandttg's avatar

Covid had two purposes. One was to enable the globalists to run a test to see just how compliant (translated, gutless and stupid) the masses are. The answer was a wet dream to them. The other was to scare the sheep _ _ _ _ less so they would beg for an experimental bioweapon to "save them". I'd give them and "A" for this battle, although they expected everyone to cave. Far too many people were left alive, undamaged, and worst of all wide awake to their evil, so they get a D, perhaps an F, for the war. the verdict is still out on that

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Tom's avatar

You forgot one of the purposes: Depopulation. One has to use Bayesian techniques to analyze all-cause-mortality these days.

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daverkb's avatar

Also, timed exquisitely to cover up the 2019/2020 financial melt down as well as an occasion to push through Great Reset fraud funding. I was really a multi-purposed operation.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

You forgot election fraud....

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devoalan's avatar

It's sole purpose was accomplished. Prevent trump from being president. That was hands down, all hands on deck necessary due to his ultimately prosecuting those bastards that created and currently using Ukraine. Ask Nanzi. It's secondary function, the gift that keeps on giving, is proof of their ability to control those of us that refuse to conform by owning the sheep that do.

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daiva's avatar

All good & well—yet leaves the *is* question lingering unaddressed 🙂

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

DIPS, good one.

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Professor Lulu Fuzzbean's avatar

it's the old LATIN definition of VIRUS...POISON or TOXIN

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daiva's avatar

Might as well be Sumerian 😁

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Tom's avatar

Or transliteration from Koine: Toxon.

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daiva's avatar

Somehow we ended up dissecting sars-cov-2 etymology as opposed to covid nosology & aetiology 🙂

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nt's avatar

I was sick very very sick (breathing/lungs) beginning of 2020 (never took a test), but later tested for antibodies with a doc in my area +positive.

Sick again 2021, lost taste and smell, sick June 2022 altered taste and smell, recurring rounds of hair loss.

No vax .

Thank the Lord have not been sick since Oct 2022, other than hair loss, hopeful my body has finally figured this thing out naturally. 🙏

This is my experience, I just know it is not natural to struggle with an unexplainable taste in your mouth for 3+ months …so although I never “tested” for covid…pretty sure my body has been going through it, trying to figure out this man-made wickedness.

Did I get three variants ? I have no idea 🤷‍♀️

*not overweight, diabetic, etc…but I do have endometriosis which is autoimmune …

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I think shedding is responsible for much of this in the unvaxxed. I’ve heard of many people who have experienced hair loss since “Covid” arrived on the scene, including myself. Several hairstylists said they’ve seen it in many customers since 2020, both vaxxed and unvaxxed.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Castor oil helps w/the hair loss.

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nt's avatar

I’m in a Covid support hair loss group, there have been some mixed information on that …it can cause more damage.

Very consistent support for rosemary oil though !!

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

I have had great results w/it. The type of Castor oil I use has lavender and rosemary in it. I put fresh rosemary in my lemon water, in the winter my hot tea. Everyone is different and will have different results. Castor oil has been around since the dawn of time. I put castor oil on my nails and it has helped them as well. It is also good for scars.

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nt's avatar

I juice and freeze my lemons , so I will have to try the rosemary in my water ! Thanks for the tips 💛

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Hope you enjoy it.

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Freebird's avatar

Yes! I’ve seen many recipes on Pinterest for Rosemary hair rinse. Overall probably the most effective thing for hair loss.

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nt's avatar

My naturopath highly recommended…she said the studies on it was better than anything pharmaceutical …not surprising lol 😄

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Taken orally or rubbed on the scalp? Also, what is the dosage?

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Freebird's avatar

Look at Pinterest for a Rosemary hair rinse.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Thank you.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’ve heard that but I don’t know if I can get myself to “drink” that….

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

You don't drink it. I use it two ways, I have a dropper so it is easier to manage because it is very thick stuff. I put maybe half or so of the dropper on my finger and then put it on my scalp where I want it to go, usually on my part line. I let it stay on overnight, or if I am going to be home I will put it on my scalp for a few hours before I shower.

I put a dropperful in my hair conditioning bottle and shake well so it is diluted. I let the conditioner sit on my head for as long as I have time for and then rinse as usual. All I know is my hair is starting to have more thickness and body to it and when I comb it less is falling out. Everyone is different.

I have switched shampoo to a Tea Tree oil based and then another that is apple cider vinegar based. So far I like both. I have curly hair and anyone that has curly knows you don't mess w/it once it dries because it gets frizzy. Using the castor oil helps w/that, and no, I don't look like Debbie Wasserman-Shultz's hair.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Thank you for taking the time to explain the process to me. I started taking Nutrafol a couple months ago and will see if that helps. I have very fine hair and the humidity is high this time of year in MO. so its a daily struggle in addition to having hair at all different lengths because even though I’m losing hair it is growing back and fortunately have no bald spots. Thank you again!

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

You are welcome. Yes! The humidity is brutal on fine hair. So glad your hair is growing back, that is most excellent. Let me know how the Nutrafol works. I get impatient because it is hard to pace when trying out new things to learn which is doing what and whether it helps or not. Some of this stuff can take months before you notice, and sometimes I don't really notice until I quit taking/doing something and then realize how much xyz really helped.

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Tom's avatar

Re: Hair loss: Apparently my dog has had "Covid" since he moved in with me . . .

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nt's avatar

Funny …

Loosing my hair hasn’t been to funny though .

To be clear …I had a “mystery “ illness in 21&22 that caused hair loss and a several month long taste disorder .

Some others (not vaxed)

have also experienced weird symptoms they’ve never had before …with this mysterious illness .

We don’t have to call it “Covid”

It’s baffling.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

😂😂😂Blame it on the dog!!

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Freebird's avatar

Have you tried ivermectin? Ive read that it works better for prevention than for curing. If you aren’t following the FLCCC protocols, I’d recommend them.

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nt's avatar

I believe that helped with the taste …

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Dee's meow's avatar

Hypothyroidism and diabetes might cause hair loss.

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nt's avatar

True ! Those are good things to check out when you have hair loss 👍

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Of course quit booze, but that's obvious...

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nt's avatar

? I’m lost …don’t drink or smoke …

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Re shedding....encouraging you to watch Scott Marsland's (nurse practitioner) FLCCC conference presentation where he discusses a patient's situation. Watch free https://covid19criticalcare.com/courses/conference-2023-spring-basic/

Also reminding there was a study of masked healthcare workers, vaxed, where their worn masks were analyzed. One thing that was found was they were breathing out antibodies germain to the vax. We also know the vaxed produce the wrong antibodies to fight off cv. Are the unvaxed being influenced by these breath antibodies? Who knows! My point is that, imho, we could be seeing muliple mechanisms that fall under the "shedding" category.

You may also want to consider looking at latent virus reactivation, and getting together with a dr or nd who is in the know to help you out and help strengthen your immune system and/or id potential root causes. Wishing you good health!!!

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nt's avatar

Thank you ! Seeing a naturopath ! I will definitely check out the link 🙏

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daverkb's avatar

Double thanks!

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FourWinds's avatar

Stress does a number on hair. All three times I've lost massive amounts of hair have been after extreme stress, and the scamdemic was no exception.

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nt's avatar

Unfortunately or maybe fortunately that’s not my case …

but for sure stress can absolutely be a factor 👍

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KGer's avatar

The Covid toilet is backing up, and I’m just going to wait for the stench from all the lies to reach the ones responsible. Sooner or later even they won’t be able to avoid the smell!

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Tom's avatar

Smells like burning sulfur . . .

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

If your immune system is toast because of jabs and more jabs, you can get sick with all sorts of things. If a virus mutates just enough, you can get sick with a next gen version of it, as well. Most of this repeat infection stems from the fact that the jabbed have been primed to ‘fight’ the original version of Covid. Then when they are exposed to a new version, their body makes antibodies to the original version of Covid and has a hard time clearing the new one. It is a vicious cycle. Add in the fact that as long as they keep producing spike, their body has to fight itself, too.

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Tom's avatar

The jabbinated eventually start producing IgG4, which causes their body to *tolerate* the virus. It's not that their primed to fight the wrong version, they *tolerate* it. It's effectively like an allergy shot. So the jabbinated then have a constant swarm of virus percolating in their system, wearing out their organs and spreading to others who lack a functioning immune system.

Natural N-protein antibodies are the way to go!

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Jackie J's avatar

Igor writes good articles that address this question. He’s a substack writer

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Janet's avatar

He’s awesome. 1 of my top 3 substacks. Igor Chudov.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Our daughter and her fiancée just attended a super spreader event in Tampa last Thursday night and both got Covid. Neither are vaxed. It hit them hard. HIGH fever, severe headache, malaise.... ugh. Her fiancée had it in Jan '22. They're both on therapeutics. First time with covid for her... he's gotten it three times.

I've certainly heard of vaxed people getting it multiple times. A close (jabbed) friend has had it five times. Twice due to Paxlovid rebound covid...

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Mark Luersen's avatar

I'm beginning to think not being vaxxed is not something to brag about if you are constantly around the vaxxed or worse- mixing fluids with them.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

It is difficult to know who is and who isn't when you are forced to be out in the public doing your job or at a social event.... My advice is; BOOST YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM! Everyone needs to hear that, not just the vaxed, who've had their immune systems sabotaged by the jabs. Everyone who has had covid, vaxed or not, should be boosting their immune system.

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Freebird's avatar

The best common sense advice yet, Maggie! We can’t avoid the vaxxed or shedding unless we live in isolation, and I don’t intend to do that. Strengthening the immune system is the way to go.

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rolandttg's avatar

We take Ivermectin prophylactically when we have to go to a superpreader event, and that includes airplanes.

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Cory's avatar

Hello,

Can you point me to info for the proper ivermectin dosing/frequency for prevention? My husband weights 75 lbs more than me. My limited understanding is we should take different amounts. Thank you.

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Janet's avatar

I use horse paste. The syringe measures out doses via weight so it’s pretty easy. It’s in my farm store down the road so I get some for travel. I am rarely among more than a few people. I had a runny nose after Xmas travel so used it then. Didn’t test but the “thing” dissipated.

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Freebird's avatar

Me too, 😊

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Susan Seas's avatar

Also my question is how is the flu at a high risk in a 100+ degree desert!?! July not usually flu season, so … 🤷🏼‍♀️

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I'll admit, my husband and I caught a "late season flu" in late May 2010 that kicked us down hard. I had to travel 2 weeks into it, with our daughter who was modeling and singing at the time... I was ill 5 weeks. My husband was able to rest and got over it sooner, as in 3 weeks. I hadn't gotten the flu shot, he had. I'm not insinuating that he was less ill because he was vaxed... he shouldn't have gotten it because he was vaxed, right?🙄😶‍🌫️ But it was a wicked bug. I never tested positive but my doctor was convinced it was the flu and was doing everything he could think of to get me well. Not with big pHARMa, but with suppliments. We still talk about how sick we were, with the flu... "Late season flu is far worse," according to many physicians who knew us... Their comments didn't help. I look back and wonder just what it was we were exposed to...

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Ellie's avatar

Personally, I believe a version has been around for much longer than the he last 3-4 years. Many of us had an extraordinary flu that was unlike amy other flu. Ever.

So. What was it really then? One of the most telling signs is a repeated spiking fever at night. And the virus moving from body to respiratory.

Never before had a flu that spiked fever more than once.

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Janet's avatar

I remember when our daughter was a baby. My husband and I had flu at the same time and took turns sleeping on a mattress in the dining room. We cared for baby somehow. No relatives around. She never got sick. This was 1972. Never got flu again until 1998 and never since even with maybe 2 flu shots under my belt. But things come out of left field sometimes.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Been there, done that and it was hard with four! Few flu vaccines for me as well. I saw an article not too long back about a study into the flu vaccines over the years... they simply never really worked, NEVER. MD hubby has finally decided he'll not get any more vaccines of any kind... joining me, the reader, questioner, skeptic, non-MD who was a med tech way back when...

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Janet's avatar

Maggie, that’s epic about your hubs!! Yay!! One at a time till tipping point. 👍🏻💪

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Tom's avatar

I finally got hit with Omicron because I had overworked myself in the heat. Maybe stresses on your bodies systems simply stack up, and the virus gets a foothold?

That's my anecdote.

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JFly's avatar

I use Xlear nasal spray before/after exposure to reduce risk of infection. There was a study that Dr. McCullough wrote about that showed it reduced Covid infection/symptoms among healthcare workers.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

They already use that and we do too! Since 2021.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

My understanding is the vaxx destroys the immune system, so yes, they continue to get sick over and over. Now is it really Covid or a bad case of flu, that I don't know. I know several people that continue to get sick and they blame it on the unvaxxed spreading it to them even though they are vaxx'd and boosted to the max. *Sigh*. PCR tests are faulty.

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rolandttg's avatar

They are not getting covid over and over again, per se.. They are experiencing jab induced immune compromised problems of all sorts. No such thing as long covid.

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AJ#2's avatar

I thought if you were jabbed your body would make the wrong AB to what is out there. The part of the antigen that is similar on the variant out there induces an AB response to the old variants meaning you keep bringing ineffective antibodies because that is what your body is primed to do and you can't make the ones you need.Ever.

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Bob Bichen's avatar

Original antigenic sin is one name for that and it's real.

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FourWinds's avatar

For me, I first have to believe it exists and is a virus instead of a parasite (since anti parasitics work so well against it, it makes me wonder.) Second, I have to believe the PCR tests are accurate. Last I heard there was a 97% false positive rate. It is generally believed that a person will gain immunity to a virus once they have had it, but with those jabbed, who knows how screwed up their immune system is? Maybe their system never made the antibodies like it was supposed to, thus making them susceptible over and over. This is my non-scientific opinion.

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LisaF's avatar

Lisa R., you can check out https://theendofcovid.com/ for a (very) long answer to your question. It is one that makes sense to me.

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