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Politico Phil's avatar

You go Tucker!......

...The national security state is the main driver of censorship and election interference in the United States. "What I’m describing is military rule," says Mike Benz. "It’s the inversion of democracy."...

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Jeff C's avatar

Everyone should check out Mike Benz' twitter feed as he posts long form videos explaining exactly what is going on with the deep state. He goes back decades explaining how it all evolved coming out of WW2 and the Cold War.

https://twitter.com/MikeBenzCyber

The Tucker interview was groundbreaking as Mike is a walking encyclopedia on this subject and effortlessly strings the whole thing together. It wasn't news to those of to have followed Mike for a while, but to people seeing it for the first time it's like suddenly having the scales lifted from one's eyes.

(Side note: And unlike emotional hacks like Ben Shapiro, he can separate his viewpoints from his traditional Jewish roots and discuss world events objectively.)

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Politico Phil's avatar

He says... "Democratic consensus are all the elite establishments that are under threat from the rise of domestic populism..."

Now do we all see why they fear Trump so much? He is the RESULT of "domestic populism." Love him or hate him or just support him because he is the embodiment of American populism, he is our weapon against these elites who would rule us.

EVERYONE else is beholding to the establishment and Trump is the only one who has his own money and can tell the moneyed elites to pound sand. Not even DeSantis has that kind of independent ability.

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Peace's avatar

Here's hoping there is more than one human who can have a positive impact (besides Trump)!!

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Austin's avatar

"Trump is the only one who has his own money..."

I do believe many years ago, he was financially bailed out by the Rockefellers, so maybe not ALL his own money.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Could be. I don't know what's going on between his ears but I do know he is the one they are afraid of so....he's got my support.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I agree Political Phil, the government is now the enemy of the people. I put my stake in no man, however the enemy of my enemy is my friend, as the saying goes...

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daverkb's avatar

He was and he trumped the bankers at their own game.

I imagine that, in his rise from a boroughs player to big time Manhattan and World player, Trump made some friends along the way. And they way, earned their respect.

This is an educated guess based upon Trump being a very, very smart and discerning person. That Trump has the ability to sort out who are 'the strong hands' and who are 'the weak hands' and to place his bets accordingly in the game of life.

As to the 'strong hands' and 'weak hands' allusion, this is market jargon. Smart players are always aware of this delineation. Smart players always gravitate to strong positions, positioning. In the world of illusions, where this delineation falls is not always apparent.

Whatever I may think of Trump, I do think that he genuinely like people and that he has a love for American. Maybe not as I would prefer, but I think it is there. How he ran his organization tell me this. Also, he is a risk-taker uncommon and possesses courage uncommon. Trump has put everything on the line ... and I have to respect that.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"...Whatever I may think of Trump, I do think that he genuinely like people and that he has a love for American. Maybe not as I would prefer, but I think it is there. How he ran his organization tell me this. Also, he is a risk-taker uncommon and possesses courage uncommon. Trump has put everything on the line ... and I have to respect that."

This is THE bottom line and spot on. When a man literally risks his very life and all he owns for you, one has to respect that!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Wherever Trump's money came from, it seems these radical judges are going to take all of it away from him.

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rolandttg's avatar

Ben Fulford keeps spouting that line too, to which I always ask "which bank is it exactly that is not owned or controlled by the Rothschilds ? (or Rockefeller's, same difference).

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daverkb's avatar

Phil ... I used to think this. And yes, money enough confers a large dose of independence. But this too is an illusion. There are limits earthly to everything. And everyone with deep, deep pockets knows that they have to have 'backers' in order to have safety in holdings. Trump knows this. You can bet the bank on it.

As you know, a lot of what I opine is just that ... opinion. But I bet that Trump, with all the difficulties, already knows 'the likely' outcome of all of this contemporary 'acting out' now going on. And when all the 'acting out' runs its course, Trump holdings will be safe and secure. And although I cannot say for sure, never for sure, I bet the end of the year is apt to look a lot different from the beginning. Maybe for the big money like Trump (and not so big compared to the unseen holdings of the trillionaires).

What the Apex Elite want more than anything else is long term multi-generational security of their holdings. To achieve this end, they have to preserve power by control. And to all this effect, the world is as Shakespeare stated ... "a stage." Some of us are actors, most though ... are the audience.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Correct qualifiers. There is a limit to "independent money" and obviously, Trump is a limited individual. I did think to caveat what I wrote but I was already long winded and it seems one can never be exhaustive. Everything must be viewed with caveats in the background. I can only hope that the Trump flower will bloom long enough to change the downhill course we are on to Marxist oblivion or at least act as a rear-ward defense.

And I keep ending up looking at the multiple million-man recruitment the Marxist globalists have accomplished across our southern border and I do not see how this ends without bloodshed.

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daverkb's avatar

I don't know absolutely. But I have already said many times that DJT did not come down that escalator and get up on that Big Debate Stage in 2016 all by his lonesome, just one day The Light shown into Trump Towers and DJT know what is Lone Ranger Mission was. And at the time, that was all I had to gone as to The Real Donald Trump.

I don't know what DJT is absolutely, or maybe not close. But the people in his organization stand by him, uncommonly so. So many stories there, and also from people who met him and had dealings with him. This can't be all wrong. And yet, many of the criticisms are valid ... even tarnish.

I suppose things could end with a multi-million man deportation movement. In the back of my head I keep thinking, what happens is the economy/stock market crash an unemployment is in the millions upon millions and then add some more. And given Jerome Powell's clear statement that the deficits are in his words 'unsustainable'. Okay! I don't really know. But this is uncharted waters. The only thing I know as sure as DJT, the escalator and debate stage is that the Apex Elite have been scared out of their wits and are now in 'save the skin' mode. This is the only way a worm like Milei comes out of the woodwork, and at the wave of a wand, ends up out of the blue winning the race in Argentina, promptly dollarizes Argentine, glad hands with the IMF ... AND THEN ends up a both Wall Street and Davos. My only question left with Milei is ... did Milei land at Davos in a private jet, or did have to fly first class or coach to Geneva on commercial? My bet is private jet!

My best guess is that we are going to get something SOLD to us, looking like what we want ... but is now. Isn't that what usually happens?

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I wish I still had a TwiX account. Does Benz include nazi connections? The nazis that were brought here after WWII, that infiltrated the State Department and the CIA? Including the evil Bush family.

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Jeff C's avatar

I don't recall seeing that but it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

One fascinating thing I learned from him was the competing factions in the CIA known as the Yankees (Ivy League Atlanticist foreign policy types) and the Cowboys (western based oil interests and defense contractors). These two factions go back to the fifties were often opposed as served as a counterbalance, keeping CIA power checked. However, they both saw Trump as such a threat that they joined forces which is why the Deep State is now so powerful. It's why you now see Obama foreign policy types (Yankees) and Cheney/Bush types (Cowboys) on the same side.

I did want to expound on my Shapiro comment. Shapiro acts as an unregistered agent of a foreign government IMO as he's made no secret Israel comes first. It's why all these Jewish neocons (Shapiro, Podhoretz, Charen, Kristol, etc.) all hate Trump even though he's a strong supporter of Israel. "America First" means Israel comes second. That's not good enough for these people as Israel must come first even if doing so harms America. They are quite open about this as Pat Buchanan pointed out thirty years ago.

I've found most people with a strong emotional attachment to Israel cannot view world events objectively, and don't act in the best interests of the US. As such, I tend to ignore what they say as I know it's emotional manipulation and not a reasoned argument. There are some with Jewish roots that are objective though, such as Mike Benz and Darren Beatty. They deserve our attention and encouragement.

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Roxanne Mixon's avatar

Yess! Shapiro has made me uncomfortable lately and you just nailed why.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I thought his cheerleading of the Covid shots showed he wasn’t that discerning. He should’ve at least had a more skeptical view imo.

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RU's avatar

IMO Shapiro is bought and paid for, an all-in neocon, which IMO means big gov't leftist. As best I can tell, he's a useful idiot for the Deep State. From where I sit, big government = leftism no matter the cultural leanings. (Yet another trick of our deep state: getting people to believe that policies that raise taxes/create inflation and expand the government are somehow "conservative" b/c they "support Israel" or "stick it to the libs.") So, from that lens, it's not surprising to me that he would back an authoritarian, big gov't, military program like the mRNA shots. IMO, he knew what he was doing and was dutifully earning his paycheck.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That makes sense.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Married to an MD....

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S.P.H.'s avatar

That answers a lot Maggie, I didn't know that.

I don't trust anybody that talks that Fast ;-)

Roxanne, RE: Jesus the Messiah, Shapiro is too smart, as is Prager, to not know the truth. It must be the scales over their eyes. I continue praying for them both.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I am on the same page as you are.

Shapiro's wife simply believed the garbage spewed by Big HARMa... but they both seemed to realize their mistake late in the game.

They struggle with Jesus as the Messiah. I pray their eyes will be opened one day.

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Roxanne Mixon's avatar

True that too. He’s too smart to not have bothered researching the train-wreck of synthetic mRNA. And even though it’s fun to watch him out debate the woksters, it freaks me out to hear him talk down about Jesus in debates with Christians.

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daverkb's avatar

I am in agreement, but there is more to the story than oil or Eastern Establishment delineations. There appears to be a Supra-Agency which appears to know where all the chess pieces are and just what levers have to be pulled and how far in order reassert control over an apparatus (Collective West) which has manifestly to the entire world gone berserk. I sense and see reversal, an over-arching quest to regain control and sanity, but how this is to play out is very much ongoing drama.

I agree that this thing of Israel is a huge stumbling block. But I will say the Israel Emperor for the first time in my memory has been exposed in his naked without cloths glory. And it is not a pretty sight. (Will the Idiot Church Pastorate ever get this score right? One wonders?)

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Jeff C's avatar

Completely agree there is more to the story Dave, the Yankee and Cowboy thing was an explanation of the traditional rift in the Intelligence Community and it doesn't explain everything. What's interesting is that they both hate Trump so much they buried the hatchet after nearly seventy years.

The thing Benz really dwells on (which I think is right on the money) is that the elite have redefined "Democracy" to mean rule by institutions rather than rule by the people. In their mind these institutions that came about after WW2 (NATO, EU, IMF, etc.) are what promoted democracy. Now that people are getting fed up with them, the people deciding they no longer want them is "undemocratic". It's completely laughable, as it redefines democracy to mean subverting the will of the people. But that's their story and they are sticking too it.

Clearly Israel plays a huge part in all of this. IMO, one big reason Putin is so hated is that he doesn't give Israel deference but just treats it like any other country (as we should also). Also agree that Netanyahu's days are numbered, but I doubt what we get will be much better. There is a very broad streak of Jewish Supremacy right now in Israel as they have been whipped into a frenzy. What has changed is the rest of the world, and a huge part of the US, is getting really tired of this crap.

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YYR's avatar

Whipped into a frenzy, you say? Now what could have done that, I wonder.

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Jeff C's avatar

Oh I don't know. How about jingoism and ethic superiority promoted by sociopaths to justify the killing twenty times (and counting) the number of Palestinians compared to Israelis killed on Oct 7th?

What do you think it is?

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I've never followed Shapiro but know of him. Chris Paul, on his podcast, always makes fun of him. Shapiro is a neocon shill for the deep state, imho, and gets paid BIG bucks for it. Has he acknowledged that Trump won in 2020 and the election was rigged? Or does he say, like all the UniParty traitors, "time to move on". No. it's time to fix the voter fraud and eliminate these corrupt politicians who have installed themselves.

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RU's avatar

That adds another element to understanding why this whole Trump situation has felt so different. And makes a lot of sense. We also need figure out how the UK fits into this. Clearly they have been playing a central role. My guess is that they are aligned with the Yankee/WEF side/EU.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

We just found out that, yes, the Five Eyes nations DID collude to spy on the Trump campaign, and his admin, and participated in the attempts to frame him with the Russia hoax. That means there was foreign involvement in the overthrow of the President, which also means Trump had every right to claim America was attacked by enemies, domestic AND foreign. And that is the basis for his instituting the CoG, or Devolution, as many have recognized. Time will tell.

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YYR's avatar

Five Eyes' role is old news.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Of course WE all knew this years ago, but now there is more proof that they cannot deny. It is in the mainstream news, for a reason. The general public are still unaware of how bad this was, and how treasonous the deep state was then and is now.

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Porge's avatar

Yes, you are correct! Old news.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

But most people are not familiar with the Devolution theory either.

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YYR's avatar

Shapiro put his last nail in his coffin when he was virulently pro-vax, hurting both Israel and the US. What a moron.

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rolandttg's avatar

Nailed it. I have one response to all of the "I stand with Israel/ Israel First " people on this platform and every other one. June 8th, 1967, USS Liberty . Did Iran attack that ship and kill 34 US sailors and wound another 171? Russia? Egypt? China? North Korea?

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Politico Phil's avatar

So true Jeff. You nailed it.

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Jeff C's avatar

I'm sorry I clicked the link, should have known better.

Emotional manipulation from the anti-Jewish side (which is what that post was) is no better than being manipulated by the pro-Jewish side. Maybe we can actually use critical thinking here without succumbing to every demagogue out there?

One can make the argument that Israel's interests aren't aligned with US interests without trotting out every "Jews are evil" stereotype. And even if it's all true (I'm not saying that but making an argument) what does that say about us for having fallen for it? We must be a pretty stupid lot and frankly deserve to be lorded over.

People who are powerless and without accomplishment love to blame some invisible enemy as it removes the responsibility for their own lack of success. Plenty of us have done just fine and don't need to find some nefarious enemy to blame. What we are doing though, is trying to understand why actions that are so obviously contrary to US interests are being promoted. I can explain Shapiro's duplicitousness with resorting to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It's this kind of stuff that gives the censorship zealots ammunition.

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Sharon Wood's avatar

Of course not every Jew, not most in fact. But there does seem to be a heavy alliance. WEF, all Jewish. Many in top level positions in the White House, the same. All the covid vaccine company CEOs are too. Purdue Pharmaceutical, Oxycontin, resulted in a genocide. The same. Maybe ppl should stop being brainwashed into believing there isn’t a group of people who do repeated evil at the expense of the world. I don’t call those invisible. Only invisible to those brainwashed into anti-semitic BS! Many ppl are not a stupid lot but subjected to EVIL forces unaccountable, operating, unstoppable so far. I am going to delete it though bc I don’t care for some of the language and ideas.

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Jeff C's avatar

I agree that there is some strange stuff there, and there are many aspects of the Talmudic Judaism that is really questionable. My concern was exactly what you mentioned in that the language and slurs used were demagogic, they were designed to provoke an emotional response in people rather than a reasoned response.

In my experience, I've found people that use language like this are acting in bad faith. They are trying to whip people into a frenzy rather than actually appealing to their intellect. In fact it's exactly what I despise about Shapiro, he routinely uses emotional language to tug at people's heart strings and/or guilt them into agreeing with him. He's a propagandist, as is the writer of that post.

If someone wants to explore some of the very real issues with Talmudic Judaism, then this *very long* article written by Ron Unz (who is ethnically Jewish) is a good place to start. It reviews the work of Israel Shahak (an Israeli university professor) who deconstructs the Talmud and how it affects Jewish thinking.

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

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Sharon Wood's avatar

I forgot Soros reportedly has done a lot of damage to the US like funding many DA campaigns across the US to bring in progressive marxist types (which Fani Willis may be one of them). There are others too. Also, Zelensky, Ukraine? Now Israel wars? No wars when Trump was in office.

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Thx Jeff for the link. Read the article. Informative...............and very painful/disturbing. Sad to learn of so much hatred of other humans on this sacred & God given planet of ours. Just so that Ron Unz (nor Israel Shahak) are not "singled out" as anti-semites, I'm also trying to learn more from other writers/critiques as well. Names possibly like Zev Zelenko, Jeffrey Sachs, Norman Finklestein (Titan of Truth and Justice), etc. Long way to go to have better comprehension.

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shayne's avatar

That was heavy... I need a walk in the sunshine to disinfect myself....

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PEL's avatar

And there have always been rumors Obama’s mother was CIA.

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The Fifster's avatar

I have to sign up so can read Benz's stuff.

Also, along the same lines would recommend the following from Diana West

1. American Betrayal - The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character

2. The Red Thread - A Search for Ideological Drivers Inside the Anti-Trump Conspiracy

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Natalie's avatar

American Betrayal is great. Very disturbing.

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Cathy's avatar

Just finished watching his interview with Tucker. Mind blowing!

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Fla Mom's avatar

I wish someone (cough, cough, you, Jeff C?) would reflect his tweets to a different, open platform (I'm still suspended from Twt/X for stating a mild professional medical opinion in 2021) - Gab, e.g., on which there are accounts that do exactly this, such as for Tucker Carlson.

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Jeff C's avatar

Have you tried creating a burner account? I have one just for reading tweets but don't post. I don't follow anyone except Elon (you have to follow one person) and just bookmark the pages of people I like.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't have one (yet). Part of me (being quietly stubborn, as was suggested elsewhere in this comment section) doesn't want to do that, because I shouldn't have to - I was right, I was polite, and I was agreeing with the person on whose tweet I was commenting. I've also seen where people who did create new accounts have been banned when tptb figure out they went around the suspension, and I don't want that, either.

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Cheri Sperl's avatar

Watching now. WOW!

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Austin's avatar

Thank you for this. I am NOT a Twitter, X, blahblahblah, person.

Is there a way to sort posts by date?

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RU's avatar

I'm just going to take this moment to point out that pretty much everything Trump ever said that was supposedly "misinformation" has now been confirmed as true. In fact, he understated the depth of the problem.

- There is a Deep State and it does have its sights set on the American public ("They are after you and I am just in their way.")

- There is a "swamp" and it's destroyed America for its own financial gain.

- Those two elements (the deep state and swamp) spied on his campaign in 2016 and tried to undermine his bid for President. IOW, they really are afraid of him.

- They rigged the 2020 election and effectively stole it from the public using the warfare tools of intelligence agencies on the American voting public. Essentially, they declared war on American voters and attacked us.

- The border was not secure; it was intentionally left open.

- The media lies (this one is even worse than he said b/c as we now know, the media isn't the media at all; it's just a wing of the federal gov't).

- A whole bunch of others: Climate change is a hoax; Covid would be a mild virus with an IFR below 1%; Masks don't work and we shouldn't wear them; etc...

When do we get to see these people arrested?

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Politico Phil's avatar

We need reminding of this.

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YYR's avatar

More than money, these idealogues want POWER. Money is merely one of the vehicles they use to get their power.

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Roger Beal's avatar

A list of the Trump administration's accomplishments 2017-2020:

https://downloads.frcaction.org/EF/EF20I29.pdf

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axons007's avatar

Missouri vs Biden.

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Jpeach's avatar

Been listening to Mike Benz on Bannon’s War Room. He’s the real deal and understands how Imperial DC really works. We’ve been manipulated by the DS for decades and now the Imperial Curtain is being pulled back.

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Gina Funke's avatar

70 years is a significant biblical time period. God is lifting the veil and removing the blinders. No other way to explain it. Trump is His David. These are the Days of Hamon (Esther)

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AngelaK's avatar

Speaking of freedom of speech:

Just saw this on my Instagram:

This account (which I follow) is a physician who was against the covid vaccine.

Look at what Gates is going to do to Microsoft computers that spread 'misinformation ' from non mainstream sources before the election! (Instagram)What do you think? Can this be

done?!?

https://www.instagram.com/p/C3c5icTu-Oi/?igsh=MTl0ZzZrM3B3dWJ4aQ==

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Bitsy54's avatar

This is not true. As much as I hate Gates, I cannot push forth this untrue statement

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Michael Framson's avatar

Disabling can come in multiple ways. Just slowing things down re internet speeds can become an issue. I think they can do at will things we are not aware.

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STH's avatar

I never use a computer on social media. Only a very old iPhone.

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WP William's avatar

we know this intuitively and have for a long time...we don't like it and dismiss our inner thoughts and continue the difficult task of applying wallpaper and just the right paint inside of the house while ignoring the noise of the crowd that has surrounded the house, poured fuel on it and set it ablaze hours ago.

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Jamison's avatar

And we’re paying for all of it!

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M. Dowrick's avatar

What exactly is the difference between Russia, China and the USA, if we are under military rule? I do not see a difference.

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RunningLogic's avatar

We still have guns?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Just my humble observations.......

Russia: a post-"Marxist tyranny" and of all western cultures, probably one of the most sincerely Christian. As a society, they are now in a "young" phase and having finally been freed of the Bolshevik tyranny, are looking for a better way.

China: a straight up dictatorship of thugs. They aren't even Communist anymore except as salad dressing. For them the clock is ticking on a reckoning.

USA: Most difficult for me to see because I live here. An Apex Empire trying to figure out exactly how it is going to collapse as the empire has reached that point where it can no longer be sustained. Will it fizzle out like the British Commonwealth Empire or implode like the Soviet Empire or go up in flames like the Roman Empire? As a society, America is a post-Christian, post-liberty affirming society whose culture is going through an identity crisis which may take an entire generation to figure out.

The society is in the process of becoming dictatorial based on Marxist ideology and dialectic. Like parasites, once entrenched, Marxists do not let go. But there several unique characteristics of America that defy historical comparison. 1) America has a large population that is heavily armed and this population still has a deeply inherited grain of independence. Never has Marxism attempted to subjugate a population as heavily armed as are Americans. 2) A corollary is the fact that the American people are spread out over an entire continent. 3) A third corollary is the fact that political power is spread out over many separate jurisdictions creating a kind of anti-tyranny political immune system. This is also unique in modern history. (OT Israel prior to King David is also an example though not modern.) Right now, the body politic is running a dangerously high fever and the outcome is uncertain.

If you were a Martian trying to figure out which society would be best to set up residence in, which would you pick?

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daverkb's avatar

One one level ... no difference.

But there are shades of difference ... very different colorations. China and the USA are pretty close as to total surveillance and Mao-ist social control mechanisms (social scoring, DEI-like divisions and so on). In the USA, one can still dissent ... much more so than in China. Both are totalitarian regimes. Roll back in the US seems possible, likely and even necessary for maintenance of political control, and we will know much more by the end of 2024. There is widespread unspoken discontent in China at totalitarian CCP control, and the CCP will have to either change or someday disappear. And China's behavior during C19 did not help matters. Also, both China and the USA have a huge debt problem. Both China and the USA have severely misallocated capital. The main difference is that China has spare capacity to fall back on, like what the US once had ahead of the Great Depression. How this all plays out remains to be seen. I don't begin to dare to make predictions, but I am aware of the differences in various capacities, including industrial.

Also, the US says it 8,000 tons of gold. China says it has around 2,300 tons, but there are estimates that the real figure is closer to 30,000 to as high as 45,000 tons off balance sheet. I've heard this from people who have spent their lifetime in precious metals trading. The US gold has not been audited for decades and so if is it really there is not is largely indeterminate. And if it is there, has it been hypothecated, lent out ... other claims on it? Russia also is believed to have much more gold tonage than the around 2,300 to 3,000 tons estimated. Who knows for sure, but this may well be an important item going forward.

The best run economy of the three and of the world is Russia with minimal debt load, large gold reserves and a stable well managed currency ... and also with the world largest commodities resource base. Dissent is tolerated within limits. Wild eyed Woke is not tolerated at all. And although pinning things down precisely is not possible, the regime operates by consensus and is more authoritarian than totalitarian. The social and moral cement is the Russian Orthodox Church and respect for Rodina, the Motherland and its rich history. Westerners who travel to, live in Russia report that they are in no hurray to leave and quite a few work to get Russian citizenship. Big cities in Russia are clean, safe and low to no crime. It kind of reminds me of mid-20th century USA but more modern ... at least in the new city Moscow. Of the three, Russia is a more 'normal' a society ... more like what we had here in the 1950's before all began to go to hell after the Kennedy assassination.

I use the Yandex browser as one of my browsers. I sometimes use the Yandex search engine and it's an eye-opener. Maybe no place is totally ideal, but Russian Internet is pretty well-developed. And still, many Russians use the American Internet all the time. I watch Russian films. I read the comments and there a lot of comments in Russian.

One thing about Russia. It's not the same as under the Soviets. Nor is it the living hell of the 1990's or so post the Soviet collapse. And remarkably different today. Living in Russia today, one does not worry about bare food shelves or the energy grid being turned off in the middle of winter and freezing to death. Society is stable.

We in America are far more risk from destabilization that Russia. Russia has already paid the price and does not want to go back to all of that. Hopefully what I call the Pivot will keep on humming along and we will be spared the worst. But I don't count on it. I just cannot discount a financial collapse, even worst than 1929. I wish I could. But I can't.

Okay! Not a perfect answer. But it comes with large does of truth. And yes, no one has a crystal ball.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Dave, I am appreciative of you comments today. I love the way you have of putting things in context. You have connected the dots quite well in regard to Milei, Trump and the Apex Elite in this comment and the one you posted above. When I previously saw some of your comments about the Apex Elite, you opened my eyes and I began to notice these things myself. I believe your observation about the Apex Elite pivoting because they are scared out of their wits has a lot of evidence. They don't control the BRICS and that appears to be a surprise challenge threatening to topple their banking system that arose in response to their actions - one of the factors anyway. The objective of imposing trans-humanism on the entire human race via the bio-weapon psyops failed. They were only able to capture parts of Europe, AUS, NZ, Japan, Canada and the US. But the US is in doubt and without the US, their entire plan fails. They have to consolidate their control of the US or they lose it all. It won't work without us. I have already commented on the challenges the US poses to them.

In the end, I always come back to the observation that once the fraud is no longer believed by the American people then all they are left with is bare force, which is to say violence. We may be at a turning point or a watershed. But no crystal ball here.

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When I used to trade, and every once and awhile ... I had the sense of The Elephant entering the room. One could not 'see it' optically other than in price movements. In this way I developed a sensitivity to the movement of 'forces'. This is sort of how I see the Apex Elite and/or Apex Money elite, look for vectors which persist in time by coherent patterns seen as validated by the procession of events.

I now think that the Apex Power Center (Apex Money, etc.) saw all of this out of control stuff coming years ago, and I think that alternative preparation for a rainy day were in the works for a very long time coming. I think that these people at the very top are not infallible, and

even sometimes get things in near time very wrong. Longer term, these people can be very wrong-footed ... and yet since their 'fleece the people' model worked so well, they just kept it going. I think the money part was broken by the 1990's and maybe some were horrified (for example) at the Long Term Capital Management failure, etc. ... and yet the supertankers goes on for a long time, even with the engines cut. What I am suggesting with this paragraph is that mentally, one has to have very long time/history horizons order to figure a lot of this stuff out. And even then it dang hard to nigh impossible at times so see things. Sometimes is like being in a car driving along, and then all of sudden a white rain downpour comes along, and one can barely see five feet of road in front of the car. And things are so hairy that one doesn't even dare risk taking a peek in the rear view mirror.

I sure don't have everything figured out to a tee ... and far from it. And maybe this is the beginning of wisdom ... caution (and in addition to fear of God). BUT as to how thinks work, I have to believe they are 'all in on it' only when it suits them to be. As far as BRICS Plus goes. I think its real simple. They are not all in on it from the BRICS point of view simply because nobody like to be beat up ... and especially, nobody like being beaten up all the time. Simply said, the Collective West went too far and is paying the freight now. I do know that the Fed said don't weaponize SWIFT ... and the Child Idiot Prodigies on the Potomac went ahead and did it anyway. That was the last straw. And I think 'they' at the top saw the possibility coming ... and long ago. But after weaponizing SWIFT (and everything else, now the die is cast ... and we are now hearing unmistakable voices like Tucker Carlson all of a sudden getting high profile attention. And in ways never heard before ... and I don't believe that this is just happenstance, a happy turn of the roulette wheel. And I'll stop here. It is obvious to me that the loose cannons on the deck of the ship of state have to be secured, tied down. And that is a process which we seem to be seeing now. Given this, let's see how this Ukraine funding thing works out. And more clues here to come.

I think you hit it right. 'They' have to consolidate in order to maintain control. Their highest aim (once again) is to preserve the multi-generational transfer of wealth. Yes, things do change, morph over time. But the thing that does not change is the need to transfer wealth over generations. Do that, do whatever it takes to do that, then wealth and power is preserved through control. (Can the Apex of the Pyramid pull it off. Maybe. Maybe the deck is stacked enough that they can. They surely will try ... and after that, time tells.)

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Interesting. You seem to have the same view I do that the illegitimate regime in DC is out of control and a threat to the apex power structure if for no other reason than the fact that their monetary policies of printing unimaginable quantities of dollars is threatening to topple the entire western world dollar based banking system. This can't be allowed to continue. On top of that, their Marxist dialectic is fracturing the cultural consensus of the American people to the point that will eventually cause social chaos. On this point, I am beginning to view Trump as the focal point for terminating their cultural and financial insanity. This makes me consider that perhaps Trump is the apex elite's point man for effecting this pivot. (I am appalled at the gullibility of the US intellectual elites adoption of Modern Monetary Theory. Seems Marxism always has it's intellectual fools.) So the Apex elite repackage their control as MAGA and the American public buys off on it. The caveat, of course, is that the Marxists in DC will not go willingly now that they think they have taken total control. Their hubristic arrogance will accept no restraint. And arrogance always makes one stupid.

This is no criticism of Trump. Your observations on his personality and history are spot on and admirable. I picture Trump's first term as POTUS as a rodeo bull rider drawing the baddest bull of the lot without a bit in the bull's mouth. (And conservatives criticize Trump for not being able to control the beast.) IF he gets a second term, I picture him as matador trying his best to slay the bull without himself getting gored. The one thing I am sure of is that the Marxists sociopaths in DC are very much afraid of the razor steel of Trump's blade should he come back into power. Their fear is nearly palatable. This again brings me to what I view as the most concerning aspect of their malevolent arrogance: the opening of America's border to a massive invasion which they are using as a means of recruiting a lethal force of men for the purpose of organizing an extra-Constitutional army whose only allegiance will be to the cabal that pays them. I have reason to believe that the regime has set up several secret bases in remote locations in the interior of the US for the purpose of training a two-million-plus man army made up of these undocumented military age men. The most concerning aspect of this recruitment are the segregated groups of military age Chinese nationals who are coming into the US. These groups of Chinese men are kept segregated even in the transport phase of the migration beginning at the Darien Gap in Panama. The potential here is obvious.

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The first big mistake in political analysis is reductionism. That is, one must recognize and take account that the domino pieces in the Grand Game are not black pieces with tiny dots on them. They more often are mottled pieces with many different colored dots. And the pieces don't just lie flat on the Grand Playing Table. They are placed together every which way, sometimes baffling and making no sense. Another Big Mistake is to believe that the Apex Elite super smart, perfect in control, all seeing beings (even though they are pretty darn smart and/or clever and plan over protracted time). And the third big mistake is to think one ever can get this all straight, nice and neat, orderly mind-fashion.

Trump is very, very complex ... not all bad, not all good. Not a super-hero or whatever folks like to make out to be, and very often do with absolute certitude in their own minds. This said, it sure does look like DJT is the Save Your Skin Apex Banker political key piece. MAGA is the Low End Sell. Milei at Davos is the High End Sell.

If you look at Central Banks and Fantasy Money, it is Scripturally speaking anathema because it violates in some way or another ... ALL of the Ten Commandments. Most people don't look at this directly as being the problem ... and that gives birth to endless mental confusion. It is very simple. Violation of the Law, in particular violation of God's Law, foments chaos and destruction ... and a destroying of worlds (like Western Civilization). This should be as plain as the nose on a face, but lamentably is not.

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I concur, especially on your last point. I look at all of this and I conclude they are engaging in political cannibalism and cultural suicide. I understand how low IQ believers in Marxism, like the Biden Administration, believe in Marxism but I don't understand how the apex elite do not understand the reality of the outcomes. EXCEPT, it appears that these elite families are practitioners of Satanism. So... I can't really expect them to act rationally.

Anyway, this was an enlightening conversation. The only other scenario I can think of, and this is just my imagination and not even original with me, is that they may want to replace Trump with someone like Gen. Petraeus. I think he would check all the NeoCon boxes and still be marketable to the average voter, Dem and Rep. The only question would be is he capable of making enough changes to support the pivot....prolly not.

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Phil ... it is all a Grand Guessing Game. But then again, some guesses are better than other guesses since some guesses are more reliant upon recorded histories (as opposed to histories which are really little more than disguised Narratives ... like Shirer's Third Reich book).

What something is in the World of Deception is sometimes better defined by what it is not. For example, Central Banking based upon Fantasy Money is anti-Christ simply because Fantasy Money Banking is based in fraudulent assertion which violates every single one of the Ten Commandments. That is, if Central Bankers were Christians then it would be an impossibility for such to be dealers in fraudulent fiat. It is more likely that they, the fraction of one percent, are the spawn of Satan because what is not of Light is Darkness.

I cannot even speculate on Gen. Petraeus except that he may have been a good Game Player, and yet my opinion remains 'not too bright' and 'under-educated' which reinforces 'not too bright'. DJT is a thousand times brighter, comes with measure and practical sense and is a proven team player. From the Apex Banking world of self-interest, DJT is the perfect Pivot figure. And this considers, this is said in remembering that Pivot does not mean what the word 'pivot' might suggest to most people. Pivot simply means walking things back from a now broken super-narrative to a new super-narrative that gets the old job done in a new way using a new context. The Pivot is not a binary world of reversal of evil to good. The Pivot is a new multi-generational functionality which serves the interests of the very, very few of the Apex crowd ... and yet once again fooling the many. And yes, some elements of The Pivot may be even wholesome, even more normalizing. Evil always comes cloaked, and with a hook for the unsuspecting to bit down upon. The main vector force of the Pivot is financial and economic, but it spills over into everything else, and with complexity.

Given that DJT is super-marketable, it is unlikely that the Apex Money would go with an inferior 'brand'. What is needed is a 'fair election' ... fair enough to do the trick. And please do remember that the Pivot has nothing to do with Calvinist world view presupposition. The Pivot is nothing more than a Shinier Darkness to replace the old worn out version of Darkness, and with a few bones thrown out to assuage the now enraged masses.

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Understand and completely agree. I have pretty much come to the same outlook. "From the Apex Banking world of self-interest, DJT is the perfect Pivot figure." They want to walk things back enough to avoid collapse and re-package the narrative. So as you say, they'll give us a "fair election" as now everyone recognizes the Democratic steal of 2020. But the game of deception that the American voter has a "choice" continues. I learned this 50 years ago when I read "The Irony of Democracy" by Dye which seemed to be an introductory course in political reality for the elite entering college. Of course, I welcome any retreat from the edge of the abyss that America seems to be teetering on even though the game has not changed.

But who knows? We may go over the edge anyway. God is long-suffering but at some point we reap what we sow and His judgement becomes progressively severe. Even the apex elite have an expiration date but I think that timeline is so long it is beyond my reckoning. If the past civilization cycles of 500 years are indicators of anything, it is that we are now at the terminal phase of the 500 year cycle that began with the Enlightenment. (But what about all the un-recorded history of humanity that occurred prior to 70 AD - thousands of years untold? There are titillating hints in the OT. ) The Soviet Empire was the culmination of the Left wing of Enlightenment thought and the American Empire is the culmination of the Right wing of the Enlightenment. When the USSR imploded, that told me that the days of the Am Empire were numbered. So far - seems accurate though such a simplistic model can't do justice to reality. Still we are approaching a REAL edge that has to be left to God's providence. Seems a shame I won't live long enough to see it.

As an aside, I'm wondering if the Democratic Party is going to be able to survive a complete loss of legitimacy in the eyes of the public. They have done so much damage to their Brand that I fairly expect the Dem Party to disappear after this all works out. Of course, we now have 22 million brand new voters to factor into the equation. What a calculus!

Good talk. More surprises to come.....

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1) As to 'we go over the edge any way', one might on solid ground think this quite possibly being so. I tend to think you are right, but then again I have in the past underestimated the ability of the Cretins to adapt. But we shall see.

2) Recently I have considered that part of the plan may be to consolidate around the Americas, plus keep Europe and Down Under in the orbit. But I think that there are all kinds of cracks in this kind of thinking. For example, Brazil is already BRICS. And what of Venezuela? Which way does Venezuela go? And so on. Countries not only have the want to, but to large extent the ability to escape the clutches of the US hegemon like never before. Too much for me to figure out now. Nothing has been really consolidated in BRICS Plus yet. And the habits of business, and longstanding business relationships, should not be underestimated.

3) Russia was classical Communism. But America? Right now it is a hybrid of Communism, Fascism and Mao-ism. This is a slippery thing. For example, if all major property is held in trust with only a beneficial use (cars, real estate, bank and brokerage accounts), that sounds like Communism to me. And certainly the Public/Private Partnership is Fascism. And Identity Politics was almost invented by, and most definitely perfected by Mao. So what we have in America is a blending of all Marxist forms, and with nothing called by its right name (Word Sorcery once again).

4) This may be your Treat of the Day. It's short, but it's pretty neat history. I much enjoyed it.

https://www.rt.com/russia/592228-stalin-labor-camps-solzhenitsyn/

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