Social security numbers were supposed to be used ONLY for that purpose and kept private, but after they started to be used for taxes, bank accounts, loans, etc., it was inevitable there would be issues with people stealing them, hacking them and so on 😕
Social security numbers were supposed to be used ONLY for that purpose and kept private, but after they started to be used for taxes, bank accounts, loans, etc., it was inevitable there would be issues with people stealing them, hacking them and so on 😕
They screw things up then sell you the solution. Finger print usage as well as eye scanning coming to a bank and grocery store near you. Haza! Digital ID with a bonus…
It’s all planned to scare people into accepting a digital chip implanted under one’s skin. And then the deep state actors will use it for the ultimate control of people.
Had a good friend (now dead) that got an SSN out of the back of a magazine (he was Canadian). He worked all over the U.S. for over 30 years. This has been going on forever.
His grandmother was a court clerk in the probate section And she gave Obama the number from one of her client files in the probate court in Hawaii. He was a man from New England who retired and died in Hawaii, Stanley Ann Dunham’s mother.
As if the fed govt spying intelligence agencies don’t have the manpower or technology to find out the actual truth 🙄. We know he’s a lie. He wasn’t born here. We know it but someone who has the clout and courage has to prove it. But how does that happen when the media is paid for and don’t care about the truth. If the sheep only knew how much they’ve been duped.
Yup. And like Jeff Childers said, everyone should have their credit report frozen. Mine have had a credit freeze for nearly a decade, ever since the OPM security clearance breach back in 2015. I've only had to lift it temporarily maybe three times since then (ironically once for another security clearance investigation).
Not only does it protect from ID theft, but it's also a nice brake on impulse purchases that put people in the poorhouse. No, I really don't need to go into debt to buy that $100k 2024 Mercedes that will lose half it's value in several years (which is why the credit bureaus resisted allowing freezes until the government forced them to do it).
Edit: should have said credit freeze above not lock as Art noted. Fixed the text. Freeze means that new credit accounts cannot be opened in your name unless the freeze is lifted. It also blocks credit inquiries.
Something I’ve always wondered is who and what are these credit report agencies, and why do THEY have all my personal information? How did that even happen? Who gave it to them? And why should we trust them to keep our data safe? I was a victim of Equifax’s security breech several years back as a customer of theirs, while their top officers kept the breech a secret for months to benefit themselves financially. Equifax’s offer to me after allowing my data to be breached was a free year of more of the same. I did not take them up on their offer.
From what I'm seeing, you have to pay Equifax to be able to lock your credit report. What's up with that? Why should I have to pay them, and they state it doesn't completely lock it - other credit agencies still have access to it. Will I have to pay each of the 3 to get it locked?? Aren't they required to allow me to lock my report? I don't need another monthly subscription charge, I'm on a fixed income!!
There’s a distinction between a credit lock and a credit freeze. The credit bureaus offer both, for the purposes of clarity and because they love you. And incidentally so they can upsell you solutions to the problems they created. In any case, go on each of the three credit bureau sites and set up a “credit freeze” and that is free. If they want money it’s not the correct option.
Be careful. There are credit report freezes which are free. Each credit bureau also offers credit "locks" which are fee-based. Use the link that Jeff provided to get to the credit freeze.
When I froze my Experian credit report, I got an email from them that my credit was unlocked - turned out the report was still frozen but they were trying to sell me their "CreditLock" service. No thanks.
There is no charge to freeze or unfreeze your reports. However, all three of them have different subscriptions and monitoring they are trying to sell, ignore those and just freeze your credit. No debit/credit card required to do so.
We have been affected periodically by various breaches. After each one, the hacked company coughs up "free" credit monitoring. I wonder who will cough that up this time.
Jen, I would never deal with those offering “free” because very often they are third-party contractors or other free agents who will actually be stealing the data that you give while they give you nothing for free.
Isn't that scam that "free" is for a certain period, say 1 year? After that, if you want to continue the service there's a charge? Something like that?
The only one that keeps asking me for a credit card is Trans Union. The other two are frozen. They didn’t charge anything. I don’t think that they are supposed to charge.
I have done this since the 90's with all 3 credit agencies for my husband and I (when we filed a tax return for our refund and were told we had already filed). In addition to the freeze, every 6 months I check our credit reports (for free as well). Sometimes, like you, I can't find the free option. I just put it aside and try it again the next day and always find it. They sometimes make it really hard. Just keep hunting, it's there.
If you've set up an account and are signed in, go to https://service.transunion.com/dss/dashboard.page? Click on the top left-hand box that says "Credit Freeze." As someone else has explained, a "lock" - similar but different - costs money.
I found that too a while back in 2022. Experian was free, but the other two were paid subscriptions. There is the suspicious part of me that feels like they are all scammers of some sort, mining info without our consent.
Not true. They all try to sell you some kind of "advanced" protection but you don't need to do that. You can freeze your credit with all of them at no cost. You don't need their other services.
And they hide the free credit freeze on their website. And you have to create an account with them to get to the freeze. And they are upselling as soon as you login. All Fun.
I’ve noticed some creditors periodically pull a report. Have you seen a freeze motivate closure of credit cards or other credit accounts without balances if they cannot access the report?
I froze my credit about 5 years ago, all 4 credit bureaus. Prior to that, my card # would get stolen and there would be odd charges showing up about once a year. Since freezing my credit, that never happens now and I don't get all those credit card offers. It takes time to set up an account with each bureau, but everyone should do it. Whenever you might need to unfreeze your credit you can go into your account and do that...specifying it to be unfrozen for whatever time frame you want. Usually a day or two is enough.
I said yesterday on this thread that this will help open the door for a digital system and currency globally. They needed this to happen to further their agenda. And just like everything else they do….it wouldn’t surprise me to find out THEY paid the hackers and told them how to do the hack or let them in the back door to rob them and then cried there’s a problem.
I.E. billybob gates and the need for antivirus software in perpetuity for windows. Create the virus then supply the anti virus. Coooovip - provide the virus and the poison injection.
Shall we play a game? (Are you old enough for this reference 😂)
Yep. McAfee is absolutely a scam... while it DOES genuinely do antivirus work, it's completely unnecessary on Windows because Microsoft has "windows defender" build into windows, and it will run automatically when no other A/V is present unless you go into the settings and turn it off. And it's free, and a lot less of a pain than any of the commercial A/Vs (though it can occasionally cause trouble in specific circumstances).
I love the way your mind works. My spider senses went up when I saw the company was located in Coral Springs as it is on the radar for some as the next fire attack.
All my information popped up on the dark web a few months ago. And I mean all of it. Someone has impersonated me to get more information. Someone filed taxes in my name which has been resolved. It's a pain because it takes a lot of time. I left a separate comment outlining what I've done to protect my identify from being used. No problems after setting it up. I'm going to put on my tin foil hat and say I believe all these breaches are intentional.
Yes, I also setup an IRS IP Pin. They got almost 10k from using my information. After I provided all the documentation, they said don't worry about it and corrected everything. No one could have had all these different financial statements from different financial institutions except me and the IRS. Based on all the tax information I had that year; I can't help but think it was an inside job. It's just a pain to deal with. I think this breach along with the Equifax, T-Mobile, and AT&T breaches, it would be a good idea to setup a pin. Equifax was a big breach back in 2017 and they lost everything on I believe 147 million Americans. You can check here to see you were affected https://www.equifaxbreachsettlement.com/. They will provide restoration services for free if your information was taken. I believe this may be happening because they have talked about rolling out an ID that will secure your identity and it will even have to be used to get online. This is happening in Australia now and they're fighting it. The old problem, reaction, and solution trick.
In the spirit of entrepreneurialism, I’m going to set up a chain of stores called Social Security Cards R Us. The initial stores will be established throughout the Rio Grande Valley. For no special reason. During our grande opening we will be offering a free drivers license and voter ID with the purchase of each social security card.
USDoD, our data supplier, no relation to the U.S. Department of Defense (wink, wink), gave us the full database for free so we could verify it before we give them the $3.5 million dollar price, because they are trusting consumer friendly folks and definitely not because they are more interested in widely disseminating the information before the election for some reason, as opposed to bourgeois profit motivated hackers.
Citizenry ID and tax harvesting was always the aim...why not just turn our Federally mandated Real ID into our tracking data, maybe implant a chip or two or some nanoparticles, oh wait it should be a Global Real ID, that's the only way to make it effective
I don't have a Real ID. In MO it is optional. At some point I may not be able to get on a plane or other restricted areas but oh well. Refused to comply.
My facts may not be 100% but Real ID is something that came from the feds in 2005 under the auspices of 'identity protection' - DL data typically stored within states and when people move they may get a DL in their new state but also still listed in their old state, etc. Idea that a Real ID proves you are who your DL says you are and is more secure than just a regular DL. MO refused to participate for years - we had some warrior legislatrors, including my state senator at the time, Will Kraus, who fought a bill bringing MO into compliance every year saying it was fed over-reach. But a few years ago the legislature caved but made it optional. So you can get a 'regular' DL that is just in the state database, or a Real ID that puts you in the national database. The 'deadline' for Real ID to be required to get on a plane, or visit certain federal facilities has been pushed out over and over, mainly due to states having problems with updating systems and such for compliance. I think right now it's sometime in 2025 where it will be 'required'. But you can use a passport in lieu of a Real ID card, so I will just renew my passport if I need to.
If you want to fly you have to pay for the upgraded drivers license. Or you can use your passport along with your old license. Some states are putting a ‘do this by’ date. In Oregon it’s later this year I think.
yep. refuse to comply. choose freedom over 'convenience' people who say they had to do something are not willing to stand up for themselves - and take the consequences.
We are in PA. I have avoided realID, but now I am trying to remember why. I guess it is finally coming to pass here in PA, and my family is asking advice on whether to opt out. It actually cost you $ to opt out! We already travel with our passports, but that may not be so easy for everyone.
That's interesting because back in the early 90's, they used our full names and SSN on all our TDY/deployment orders. I still have all mine to prove it. I never threw away any service-related records. They did away with the SSN before I got out. Based on what you're saying, they brought it back.
they have not been secret for a long time. While living in Arizona, my drivers licence had the same number as my SS. Talking about secret LOL. And how would all these bots have our names, and all our other info, if they were kept safe?
Social security numbers were supposed to be used ONLY for that purpose and kept private, but after they started to be used for taxes, bank accounts, loans, etc., it was inevitable there would be issues with people stealing them, hacking them and so on 😕
They screw things up then sell you the solution. Finger print usage as well as eye scanning coming to a bank and grocery store near you. Haza! Digital ID with a bonus…
And all of it just as hackable as SS numbers.
It’s all planned to scare people into accepting a digital chip implanted under one’s skin. And then the deep state actors will use it for the ultimate control of people.
I think so too. It’s setting the stage and psychological conditions to accept it in a culture that is traditionally individual freedom oriented.
gag
😂
perzactly
I never thought that this is the way to get us to go in that direction. Scary. This has been the plan for decades, I’m sure.
Had a good friend (now dead) that got an SSN out of the back of a magazine (he was Canadian). He worked all over the U.S. for over 30 years. This has been going on forever.
viable option: get out of banks. use cash. get out of debt. dont finance the ones who are out to enslave you.
Thats all well and good until CBDC'S are introduced then unless you are in the .1% you are truly screwed.
barter. build a community exchange system. trade beads or seashells. people have somehow managed to get by this far.
Whole Foods is already using palm scanners.
Or to be given to illegal personnel to be able to vote in your name and fast track their blending into society.
Exactly- who is being given these new identities ?
Illegal aliens. All 30 million of them.
I heard it was 50 million… 😱
...and most are military aged men.
Try 50 million + illegals maybe 100 million
Let me guess...... They need a lot of them....
Excellent point!
100% yes.
Yeah, just look at Obama's fake SSN.
His grandmother was a court clerk in the probate section And she gave Obama the number from one of her client files in the probate court in Hawaii. He was a man from New England who retired and died in Hawaii, Stanley Ann Dunham’s mother.
Yes, the SSN was from Connecticut.
Susan Daniels discovered it.
Link:
https://headlineusa.com/obama-stolen-social-security-number/
As if the fed govt spying intelligence agencies don’t have the manpower or technology to find out the actual truth 🙄. We know he’s a lie. He wasn’t born here. We know it but someone who has the clout and courage has to prove it. But how does that happen when the media is paid for and don’t care about the truth. If the sheep only knew how much they’ve been duped.
I wouldn’t doubt this for a minute; everything about Obummer is a lie.
I remember that. And the birth cert from Hawaii had all kinds of photocopy marks on it.
It wasn’t a traditional birth certificate. Think it was named Proof of Birth.
Oh, okay. It's been so long ago, that was the one thing that stood out.
Kamala is an anchor baby, wonder if she born here?
yikes, never thought of that
Yup. And like Jeff Childers said, everyone should have their credit report frozen. Mine have had a credit freeze for nearly a decade, ever since the OPM security clearance breach back in 2015. I've only had to lift it temporarily maybe three times since then (ironically once for another security clearance investigation).
Not only does it protect from ID theft, but it's also a nice brake on impulse purchases that put people in the poorhouse. No, I really don't need to go into debt to buy that $100k 2024 Mercedes that will lose half it's value in several years (which is why the credit bureaus resisted allowing freezes until the government forced them to do it).
Edit: should have said credit freeze above not lock as Art noted. Fixed the text. Freeze means that new credit accounts cannot be opened in your name unless the freeze is lifted. It also blocks credit inquiries.
Something I’ve always wondered is who and what are these credit report agencies, and why do THEY have all my personal information? How did that even happen? Who gave it to them? And why should we trust them to keep our data safe? I was a victim of Equifax’s security breech several years back as a customer of theirs, while their top officers kept the breech a secret for months to benefit themselves financially. Equifax’s offer to me after allowing my data to be breached was a free year of more of the same. I did not take them up on their offer.
Oh just wow!
From what I'm seeing, you have to pay Equifax to be able to lock your credit report. What's up with that? Why should I have to pay them, and they state it doesn't completely lock it - other credit agencies still have access to it. Will I have to pay each of the 3 to get it locked?? Aren't they required to allow me to lock my report? I don't need another monthly subscription charge, I'm on a fixed income!!
There’s a distinction between a credit lock and a credit freeze. The credit bureaus offer both, for the purposes of clarity and because they love you. And incidentally so they can upsell you solutions to the problems they created. In any case, go on each of the three credit bureau sites and set up a “credit freeze” and that is free. If they want money it’s not the correct option.
Good point, I've updated my comment to note freeze is the proper term.
Be careful. There are credit report freezes which are free. Each credit bureau also offers credit "locks" which are fee-based. Use the link that Jeff provided to get to the credit freeze.
When I froze my Experian credit report, I got an email from them that my credit was unlocked - turned out the report was still frozen but they were trying to sell me their "CreditLock" service. No thanks.
There is no charge to freeze or unfreeze your reports. However, all three of them have different subscriptions and monitoring they are trying to sell, ignore those and just freeze your credit. No debit/credit card required to do so.
Just additional info, please consider freezing your deceased loved ones! This was suggested by the funeral home of my mother
Wow, that’s something to put in your will letter!
https://www.equifax.com/personal/help/article-list/-/h/a/difference-security-freeze-credit-report-lock "A security freeze (also known as credit freeze) of your Equifax credit report is regulated by federal law. You can place, temporarily lift or permanently remove a freeze on your Equifax credit report for FREE online, by phone or by mail."
We have been affected periodically by various breaches. After each one, the hacked company coughs up "free" credit monitoring. I wonder who will cough that up this time.
Jen, I would never deal with those offering “free” because very often they are third-party contractors or other free agents who will actually be stealing the data that you give while they give you nothing for free.
Lots of wolves in sheep’s clothing!
Ticketmaster just coughed up an offer to me after their security breach. Seems like there’s one every few months now. Before that it was AT&T…🤦🏼♀️
And blue cross. And a big federal veteran/hr database. Various universities. Even one of the big 3 credit agencies. The list is endless.
Isn't that scam that "free" is for a certain period, say 1 year? After that, if you want to continue the service there's a charge? Something like that?
But when new breaches are announced with yet another "free" credit locking service...
A business model? In yet another numbers game? --
Every day my disgust with the false matrix is renewed and enhanced.
The only one that keeps asking me for a credit card is Trans Union. The other two are frozen. They didn’t charge anything. I don’t think that they are supposed to charge.
No cost. Set up a free account on TransUnion. Then set up a freeze.
Every time I go in and try to do it they ask for my credit card, and won’t let me bypass it. What am I doing wrong?
I have done this since the 90's with all 3 credit agencies for my husband and I (when we filed a tax return for our refund and were told we had already filed). In addition to the freeze, every 6 months I check our credit reports (for free as well). Sometimes, like you, I can't find the free option. I just put it aside and try it again the next day and always find it. They sometimes make it really hard. Just keep hunting, it's there.
If you've set up an account and are signed in, go to https://service.transunion.com/dss/dashboard.page? Click on the top left-hand box that says "Credit Freeze." As someone else has explained, a "lock" - similar but different - costs money.
Thank you! 😊
No you don't. I have done it for free.
I found that too a while back in 2022. Experian was free, but the other two were paid subscriptions. There is the suspicious part of me that feels like they are all scammers of some sort, mining info without our consent.
Not true. They all try to sell you some kind of "advanced" protection but you don't need to do that. You can freeze your credit with all of them at no cost. You don't need their other services.
If I freeze my credit dies that mean I can not use my credit cards?
It does not. It is supposed to prevent any new accounts from being set up in one's name.
No, it doesn’t. I use my credit card.
And they hide the free credit freeze on their website. And you have to create an account with them to get to the freeze. And they are upselling as soon as you login. All Fun.
Thank you for the explanation- it’s on my to do list today for hubby & I ✔️✔️
I’ve been trying to freeze my stuff and on equifax. I can’t get through. I think we broke them today 😂
Same here...also tried today and failed.
Excellent advice!
I’ve noticed some creditors periodically pull a report. Have you seen a freeze motivate closure of credit cards or other credit accounts without balances if they cannot access the report?
I froze my credit about 5 years ago, all 4 credit bureaus. Prior to that, my card # would get stolen and there would be odd charges showing up about once a year. Since freezing my credit, that never happens now and I don't get all those credit card offers. It takes time to set up an account with each bureau, but everyone should do it. Whenever you might need to unfreeze your credit you can go into your account and do that...specifying it to be unfrozen for whatever time frame you want. Usually a day or two is enough.
I said yesterday on this thread that this will help open the door for a digital system and currency globally. They needed this to happen to further their agenda. And just like everything else they do….it wouldn’t surprise me to find out THEY paid the hackers and told them how to do the hack or let them in the back door to rob them and then cried there’s a problem.
I.E. billybob gates and the need for antivirus software in perpetuity for windows. Create the virus then supply the anti virus. Coooovip - provide the virus and the poison injection.
Shall we play a game? (Are you old enough for this reference 😂)
Are we learning yet?
"The only winning move is not to play." Joshua
Mrs. "the Knife"
Speaking of protection scams, anyone else struggling with McAfee's "free" antivirus scanner on Windows?
My wife bought a new HP laptop last year that came with it, and I've had to manually remove it twice now.
What a scam - the antivirus software is itself a virus-like entity. Reminds me of a mafia protection racket.
Yep. McAfee is absolutely a scam... while it DOES genuinely do antivirus work, it's completely unnecessary on Windows because Microsoft has "windows defender" build into windows, and it will run automatically when no other A/V is present unless you go into the settings and turn it off. And it's free, and a lot less of a pain than any of the commercial A/Vs (though it can occasionally cause trouble in specific circumstances).
Yes, yes and yes… Whatever happened to McAfee? I haven’t heard anything about that recently.
I guess he’s still dead....
Last I heard he suicided himself.
Allegedly.
I love the way your mind works. My spider senses went up when I saw the company was located in Coral Springs as it is on the radar for some as the next fire attack.
Let's play War Games....
Same old song
All my information popped up on the dark web a few months ago. And I mean all of it. Someone has impersonated me to get more information. Someone filed taxes in my name which has been resolved. It's a pain because it takes a lot of time. I left a separate comment outlining what I've done to protect my identify from being used. No problems after setting it up. I'm going to put on my tin foil hat and say I believe all these breaches are intentional.
My husband had taxes filed in his name 7 years ago. We are given a special pin to submit our taxes since then. It has helped.
Yes, I also setup an IRS IP Pin. They got almost 10k from using my information. After I provided all the documentation, they said don't worry about it and corrected everything. No one could have had all these different financial statements from different financial institutions except me and the IRS. Based on all the tax information I had that year; I can't help but think it was an inside job. It's just a pain to deal with. I think this breach along with the Equifax, T-Mobile, and AT&T breaches, it would be a good idea to setup a pin. Equifax was a big breach back in 2017 and they lost everything on I believe 147 million Americans. You can check here to see you were affected https://www.equifaxbreachsettlement.com/. They will provide restoration services for free if your information was taken. I believe this may be happening because they have talked about rolling out an ID that will secure your identity and it will even have to be used to get online. This is happening in Australia now and they're fighting it. The old problem, reaction, and solution trick.
Social security money was supposed to be in a lockbox, too, wasn't it?
LBJ took it out. He was part of the assassination team of John F. Kennedy.
Al? Al Gore? Is that you?
Not AL... hahahaha
I still hear that word in Darrell Hammond's Al Gore inflection from the SNL debate skit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgRRVpemLo
Me too!
LOL
In the spirit of entrepreneurialism, I’m going to set up a chain of stores called Social Security Cards R Us. The initial stores will be established throughout the Rio Grande Valley. For no special reason. During our grande opening we will be offering a free drivers license and voter ID with the purchase of each social security card.
USDoD, our data supplier, no relation to the U.S. Department of Defense (wink, wink), gave us the full database for free so we could verify it before we give them the $3.5 million dollar price, because they are trusting consumer friendly folks and definitely not because they are more interested in widely disseminating the information before the election for some reason, as opposed to bourgeois profit motivated hackers.
Even on paperwork in Dr offices… I leave it blank…if, when they question., I reply, u do NOT need it… it has nothing to do with my medical info!
So, is the criminal gang a division of the DoD?
The hacking group's name is USDoD.
I think so!
Yes.
Citizenry ID and tax harvesting was always the aim...why not just turn our Federally mandated Real ID into our tracking data, maybe implant a chip or two or some nanoparticles, oh wait it should be a Global Real ID, that's the only way to make it effective
I don't have a Real ID. In MO it is optional. At some point I may not be able to get on a plane or other restricted areas but oh well. Refused to comply.
What do you mean by realID? I live in MO and may have missed that.
My facts may not be 100% but Real ID is something that came from the feds in 2005 under the auspices of 'identity protection' - DL data typically stored within states and when people move they may get a DL in their new state but also still listed in their old state, etc. Idea that a Real ID proves you are who your DL says you are and is more secure than just a regular DL. MO refused to participate for years - we had some warrior legislatrors, including my state senator at the time, Will Kraus, who fought a bill bringing MO into compliance every year saying it was fed over-reach. But a few years ago the legislature caved but made it optional. So you can get a 'regular' DL that is just in the state database, or a Real ID that puts you in the national database. The 'deadline' for Real ID to be required to get on a plane, or visit certain federal facilities has been pushed out over and over, mainly due to states having problems with updating systems and such for compliance. I think right now it's sometime in 2025 where it will be 'required'. But you can use a passport in lieu of a Real ID card, so I will just renew my passport if I need to.
Oklahoma - last I checked anyway - keeps pushing the Real ID out too.
The day they finally impose it is the day I'll start driving unlicensed.
Become ungovernable.
yep. at whatever cost. because the cost of not doing it is forever
Dang!! Somehow I think we went along with that…not sure how we were tricked into thinking it was a good thing or required. 😡
If you want to fly you have to pay for the upgraded drivers license. Or you can use your passport along with your old license. Some states are putting a ‘do this by’ date. In Oregon it’s later this year I think.
But if you’re here illegally you’re good to fly no questions asked.
The illegals are getting on the planes with no ID and they have their own special TSA line.
then dont fly. all people do what is most important to them - no matter what they say.
Yes that’s what I recall
Me too, (SC) don't have one, don't plan on flying. Driver's licenses still in date are legal for cars, trains, etc. Mine's good for 10 more yrs.
yep. refuse to comply. choose freedom over 'convenience' people who say they had to do something are not willing to stand up for themselves - and take the consequences.
I don't have a real ID either here in PA.
Figure I will just use my passport if I need to get into the federal bldg.
We are in PA. I have avoided realID, but now I am trying to remember why. I guess it is finally coming to pass here in PA, and my family is asking advice on whether to opt out. It actually cost you $ to opt out! We already travel with our passports, but that may not be so easy for everyone.
I opted out of a smart meter and get to pay the elec co $20/mo extra.
Nancy, good health choice.
good grief, I hate these people!
But we don't need an ID to vote in PA.
And safe.
They even stopped using military service numbers and switched to SSN's. They are used for everything now.
Same with college student I.D.s. Used to be 4 or 5 digit numbers unattached to anything. Now colleges use SS# exclusively.
That's interesting because back in the early 90's, they used our full names and SSN on all our TDY/deployment orders. I still have all mine to prove it. I never threw away any service-related records. They did away with the SSN before I got out. Based on what you're saying, they brought it back.
I remember cashing a check at the Navy exchange and I had to put my SSN on the check.
Try opening a bank account w/out ss#
I can if I sneak across the border as an illegal criminal invader. I can get anything and for free.
Ugh… 😣
Yes, the “slippery slope” of legal mistakes.
Many doctors offices still use SSN’s as identifiers. Ridiculous!!
I leave it blank.
they have not been secret for a long time. While living in Arizona, my drivers licence had the same number as my SS. Talking about secret LOL. And how would all these bots have our names, and all our other info, if they were kept safe?
You must have lived there pre-2004? That's when I moved there the first time. And they had implemented a different numbering system by then.
I performed background checks for the non-profit where I worked and the only SSN I saw on driver's licenses were on older ones.
Yeah Camel's nose entered the tent along time ago with this farce.
Decades
Doc offices
I remember Rush saying he wouldn’t comply nor give his drivers license #
He was self insured; said it was less expensive