Or no bullet even came close to him. Have you ever seen the movies where people get shot? You don’t think that’s really their blood do you?
No one wants to even consider how powerful the forces behind our govt are. No one even gets a seat at the table without permission. Trump is an actor in all of this just playing his role. That’s why h…
Or no bullet even came close to him. Have you ever seen the movies where people get shot? You don’t think that’s really their blood do you?
No one wants to even consider how powerful the forces behind our govt are. No one even gets a seat at the table without permission. Trump is an actor in all of this just playing his role. That’s why he can’t go against vaccines ever. He belongs to them just like the rest of them.
I’m blown away at the lack of logic applied here. Both can be true. It can be staged/planned and innocent lives can be lost. I said the same thing. Hello 9/11. Inside job. Tons of innocent people were killed. Oh geez. We have a long ass way to go. The one thing I know for sure after the last four years is clinging to any one ideology too tightly will get your ass killed. We have to remain open to all possibilities. We have to entertain all possibilities. Nothing is what it seems. But very few can do that it seems. Our conditioning runs so deep that minds remain fixed and triggered. Exactly the way they want us.
It's cognitive dissonance. Just like with the vaccines. They know they are deadly and even believe they were planned to hurt us. But they ignore that Trump was the catalyst for it with his OWS and his CURRENT stances that those vaccines are "miracles" and "saved millions of lives." They make excuses for him, or ignore that problem.
Cognitive dissonance is definitely our biggest problem. Personally, I do not believe Trump was a willing, self-conscious participant in the planned democide. IF...he was fooled and innocently used to facilitate the bio-weapon deployment, then he himself is in a catch-22. Clearly, they did not need his willing participation to carry out their plandemic that had been in the works for decades. The real catalyst was the CIA and the MSM. The DoD was the originator and deployment agent for the bio-weapon deployment. Whatever politician was in office, Trump or Clinton, was simply the expedient means of making it legal. It really didn't matter who was in office.
But Phil, to this day, he touts the vaccines as "miracles" etc. How do you reconcile this? He is not the bumbling fool who was tricked and remains in the dark 4 years later. Of course he knows, so why would he keep saying this? He was deliberately in office when the plandemic started to make sure the right would inject themselves ---because they wouldn't under Biden--and that's why they needed a Dem next, to ensure the left got injected. What I am saying is that both are part of a grander scheme, where this for example, was meticulously timed to poison both parties. The vax came out literally when Trump was in two more months, and Biden was inaugurated in Jan. 2021.
They got both sides and Biden is the patsy to do the dirty work of importing illegals and our economy etc... Trump comes back as the hero! Yay superman!
Protocols of Zion...My Behold A Pale Horse book (early printing before removed in latter copies) has them. Very disturbing, I cling to Jesus because this world is run by satanists and always has been. We just didn't know.
There is a logic to your reasoning. The way the EO was signed months before the first covid case gave him plausible deniability. But if he continues to support the bio-weapon shots after he is elected then your position is confirmed. I think the logic is undeniable. (Of course, it could simply be a case of being forced to go along with the narrative, now that he knows he was used, by the threat of having his entire family killed if he doesn't.)
This is a dirty war and the lines are blurred. It is intimidating to think of the power the Western top tier elites have over us. However, they attempted to take over the whole planet and failed and the BRICS+ rose in reaction to the Western apex elite attempt. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Post-Communist Russia, Communist China and democratic India - what an unlikely alliance! "Enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Even if Trump routs the Dem Marxists from the USG that doesn't change the broader war. As long as the USG Empire exists, the American people will still be enslaved to the Apex money elite banking system. Having lost their bid to take over the whole planet, they must now consolidate their hold on the West, most especially the US. If they lose the US, they will lose the entire West. What that means is that their immediate threat is the American people.
This is the war I'm really worried about. They must completely subjugate the American people. When you watch the broader issues and ignore the dramatic distractions such as today's news, you can see them systematically fencing us into a kill box where they can cut off all life support or just outright kill us.
So what I worry about is the threat to my family and how we are going to defend ourselves. As Malone says in today's post, "I cannot predict what is about to happen. But it is not going to be a gentlemanly disagreement."
Agreed--and so the question for today is simply, "is he on the right side or not?" I do not know the answer to that question, but I keep seeing evidence of his complicity. I am not a fan of Malone's either--he has been caught in many lies and has very strong ties to DARPA and intelligence.
^^like... After all that we have experienced since JFK assassination; so began the coup that captured our country by a certain group hell bent on consolidating nations and ruling the world from one seat of power. This group has been running our country ever since. Optics are everything and they control both sides of the story. That's why they are always so successful in using people's emotions as camouflage to keep the truth hidden whilst we feed upon the information that dulls our intuition and drives us straight into the arms of self deception. We have been trained to follow others instead of following our God given wisdom to right the wrongs around us. Everything you mention above should be considered based on prior knowledge as "both can be true".
Thank you. Bottom line, I'm THANKFUL Trump was not killed. If nothing else, I want him to rout the Marxists out of power. But that will not end the broader war. This war against the American people will not be ended with the rout of the Dem Marxists. As long as the USG Empire exists, they will be the enemy of the American people. This is but one dramatic skirmish in a broader war for our liberty.
So those were real bullets within a few inches of his head,but he used a Hollywood splatter to fake it. Those people that died on stage behind him or were seriously injured, they in on it too? I agree, we have the deep state in every corner. I just don’t believe pdt is part of it.
Like the Vegas shooting, they could have been shot close up and no one would know. That's why autopsies are important. I am guessing though that these results won't be shown to the public.
Exactly. Nor will we see the results of any ballistic analysis that would prove or disprove where those bullets came from. If they were all from that one shooter, their trajectory is easily confirmed and one could easily see who would have been hit or not hit behind Trump. So the people that were hit, were they directly behind Trump on THAT trajectory?
Yes. Gateway Pundit has the picture taken by a photographer named Doug Mills. You can see the bullet streak. One bullet went THROUGH the top of Trump's ear.
Well, I'm not going to say you are wrong. I don't have enough facts yet one way or the other but your take is easily in the realm of possible. "The powerful forces" are definitely involved one way or the other. I'm just not sure what their agenda is yet.
And there is more than one "powerful force" at work here. For example, the Apex money elite needs to walk back the excesses of their Marxists children in the USG because their actions are threatening to destroy the international dollar banking system. So the money elite may be working against the very forces in the USG that want Trump dead. All we are seeing is the public kinetic intersection.
No, it isn't. There are a couple trolls blowing this comment section up with unfounded idiocy. Drowning out and shouting down everyone else. Does no good to feed that. Especially when they have no access to any facts beyond what the rest of us know. It isn't discussion - it's two people shouting down everyone else.
Well, I'm not shouting at anyone. I'm clearly saying we don't have much to go on and I don't think this is the time for a hard position or a strident "first take."
I realize that, Phil. I always respect and enjoy your posts. I was just asking not to feed the trolls who seem to have shown up today with an agenda of their own...and are going to jam it down our throats whether we like it or not.
Everyone has opinions at this point and nothing more. But, some seem to think their opinions are hard, proven fact. And, frankly, their lack of basic logic shows they just aren't that bright.
Who's jamming anything down your throat, RU? What's wrong with you. Don't you mean you don't LIKE other's opinions? They are rattling your TDS and that makes you angry! Maybe you should be a little more open-minded.
Gee, now you're following me around replying to every post I've made. Proves my point about trying to jam your ideas down others' throats. Thanks for that. I have no TDS. I am a pretty vocal Trump supporter. Also not angry. That would be you, the one posting a couple hundred times today, replying to every comment you don't like. So, no clue what you're talking about.
You responded to me calling me a "troll" and telling me to "STFU" lol. Nice try though. Denying what you are does not make it so. You are all of those things.
Hello WS. Rough day. Re: Phil - Really? That's sad. I've always enjoyed (if not agreed with) his posts and he always has a respectful tone. Some of the other BS going on around here today...not so enjoyable or respectful.
Like, did you know: apparently the guy with the bullet hole through his ear did it to himself? And took the chance of being shot through the head in order to stage an event? And the people who started screaming and taking cover were actors? And the people who were shocked were actors? And the other people who were confused and didn't do anything were actors? And the USSS agents - who dove on top of and covered the President - were also acting? And they didn't even act out the "right" thing b/c they should have...carried him off or something...while there was still an active shooter?
I'm sorry, I just can't take these people today. Some folks are way too far down the rabbit hole and some folks just can't stand Trump to the degree they'll make up anything to justify their hatred of him. I shouldn't have clicked into this comment section today, lol.
Thanks RU, as is so often the case, you’ve expressed my own thoughts perfectly. I adhere to Occam’s Razor—these incredibly convoluted theories just don’t hold water for me.
Thanks, RL. Tough day. I think I was perhaps too harsh in a couple comments today. :-( I just don't have the mental space today for the theories that are a little too far down the rabbit hole. They seemed designed only to undermine Trump or conservatives more generally; either to make him the perpetrator instead of the victim and/or to make us look like drooling imbeciles. Occam's Razor, as you said.
It's too early to say much of substance, but I haven't seen anything so far that can't be explained by: too little secret service assigned to him; incompetence on the part of those assigned to him (as if it should surprise us that they'd assign the low performers or inexperienced agents to him); and 9+ years of totally unhinged propaganda aimed at Trump, pretty much designed to incite one of the crazies to violence. Seems to me that's the way the deep state operates: make people nuts with psychotropic meds and then incite them to violence via the media. Not sure anything we saw yesterday requires any more "layers" to explain it. But, I guess we'll see what we learn as this unfolds and we find out more about the shooter.
Yes, agree with all of that. It’s just funny to me how some people seem sure of the “truth” without actual evidence. I’ve seen a lot of speculation based on beliefs and conjecture today, rather than any actual facts. And some think *any* supposed facts are not to believed. We’re accused of not being critical thinkers but to me, critical thinking doesn’t just mean automatically disbelieving everything, it’s analyzing the situation and deciding what makes sense based on the information you have and also based on past events or actions.
Well, you're correct in that. Rejecting everything that is offered as fact is the definition of uncritical reactivity. It's the opposite of critical thinking. It's based on logical fallacies.
Thanks for sharing. It makes sense that the Dem brain trust would seed that narrative into the dialogue. I imagine the same happened with all the incidents that led to BLM riots.
Townhall has a good article on the shooter. Based off the comments from his classmates, neighbors, and instructor he was a smart but weird kid that had tendencies that his shooting instructor found disturbing. They didn't invite him back to the shooting class b/c of that and b/c he was a terrible shot. The more I think it through, the more it seems he panicked after he saw that cop look at him and just quickly fired a bunch of shots in the direction of Trump. Trump is very lucky. (Still doesn't explain why USSS didn't take him out before he shot, but basic incompetence could explain that. Or being gun shy about killing a possibly innocent person and having to deal with the anti-police MSM afterward. That alone would have tanked Trump's campaign. Police in general have been walking on eggshells post-George Floyd.)
Or truthtellers--the same truthtellers you believed about the vaccine. But you just can't have your hero questioned or you'll have a nervous breakdown. Because you've pinned all your hopes on him and have nowhere else to turn. Put your big boy pants on.
Or no bullet even came close to him. Have you ever seen the movies where people get shot? You don’t think that’s really their blood do you?
No one wants to even consider how powerful the forces behind our govt are. No one even gets a seat at the table without permission. Trump is an actor in all of this just playing his role. That’s why he can’t go against vaccines ever. He belongs to them just like the rest of them.
So the firefighter who was shot simply dropped dead of his own accord, and the other two people who are seriously injured shot themselves?
Ever hear of the Vegas shooting? How about 9/11? The people in charge have no problem sacrificing innocents to achieve their ends.
I’m blown away at the lack of logic applied here. Both can be true. It can be staged/planned and innocent lives can be lost. I said the same thing. Hello 9/11. Inside job. Tons of innocent people were killed. Oh geez. We have a long ass way to go. The one thing I know for sure after the last four years is clinging to any one ideology too tightly will get your ass killed. We have to remain open to all possibilities. We have to entertain all possibilities. Nothing is what it seems. But very few can do that it seems. Our conditioning runs so deep that minds remain fixed and triggered. Exactly the way they want us.
It's cognitive dissonance. Just like with the vaccines. They know they are deadly and even believe they were planned to hurt us. But they ignore that Trump was the catalyst for it with his OWS and his CURRENT stances that those vaccines are "miracles" and "saved millions of lives." They make excuses for him, or ignore that problem.
Cognitive dissonance is definitely our biggest problem. Personally, I do not believe Trump was a willing, self-conscious participant in the planned democide. IF...he was fooled and innocently used to facilitate the bio-weapon deployment, then he himself is in a catch-22. Clearly, they did not need his willing participation to carry out their plandemic that had been in the works for decades. The real catalyst was the CIA and the MSM. The DoD was the originator and deployment agent for the bio-weapon deployment. Whatever politician was in office, Trump or Clinton, was simply the expedient means of making it legal. It really didn't matter who was in office.
But Phil, to this day, he touts the vaccines as "miracles" etc. How do you reconcile this? He is not the bumbling fool who was tricked and remains in the dark 4 years later. Of course he knows, so why would he keep saying this? He was deliberately in office when the plandemic started to make sure the right would inject themselves ---because they wouldn't under Biden--and that's why they needed a Dem next, to ensure the left got injected. What I am saying is that both are part of a grander scheme, where this for example, was meticulously timed to poison both parties. The vax came out literally when Trump was in two more months, and Biden was inaugurated in Jan. 2021.
They got both sides and Biden is the patsy to do the dirty work of importing illegals and our economy etc... Trump comes back as the hero! Yay superman!
Yup--its the pendulum required to batten down the masses. And the way to keep the corruption going through confusion.
Protocols of Zion...My Behold A Pale Horse book (early printing before removed in latter copies) has them. Very disturbing, I cling to Jesus because this world is run by satanists and always has been. We just didn't know.
Fortunately, I don't think we have to wait much longer to find out.
There is a logic to your reasoning. The way the EO was signed months before the first covid case gave him plausible deniability. But if he continues to support the bio-weapon shots after he is elected then your position is confirmed. I think the logic is undeniable. (Of course, it could simply be a case of being forced to go along with the narrative, now that he knows he was used, by the threat of having his entire family killed if he doesn't.)
This is a dirty war and the lines are blurred. It is intimidating to think of the power the Western top tier elites have over us. However, they attempted to take over the whole planet and failed and the BRICS+ rose in reaction to the Western apex elite attempt. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Post-Communist Russia, Communist China and democratic India - what an unlikely alliance! "Enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Even if Trump routs the Dem Marxists from the USG that doesn't change the broader war. As long as the USG Empire exists, the American people will still be enslaved to the Apex money elite banking system. Having lost their bid to take over the whole planet, they must now consolidate their hold on the West, most especially the US. If they lose the US, they will lose the entire West. What that means is that their immediate threat is the American people.
This is the war I'm really worried about. They must completely subjugate the American people. When you watch the broader issues and ignore the dramatic distractions such as today's news, you can see them systematically fencing us into a kill box where they can cut off all life support or just outright kill us.
So what I worry about is the threat to my family and how we are going to defend ourselves. As Malone says in today's post, "I cannot predict what is about to happen. But it is not going to be a gentlemanly disagreement."
https://www.malone.news/cp/146608495
Agreed--and so the question for today is simply, "is he on the right side or not?" I do not know the answer to that question, but I keep seeing evidence of his complicity. I am not a fan of Malone's either--he has been caught in many lies and has very strong ties to DARPA and intelligence.
Yup... I hear that.
Thank you for the clarification. Well said.
^^like... After all that we have experienced since JFK assassination; so began the coup that captured our country by a certain group hell bent on consolidating nations and ruling the world from one seat of power. This group has been running our country ever since. Optics are everything and they control both sides of the story. That's why they are always so successful in using people's emotions as camouflage to keep the truth hidden whilst we feed upon the information that dulls our intuition and drives us straight into the arms of self deception. We have been trained to follow others instead of following our God given wisdom to right the wrongs around us. Everything you mention above should be considered based on prior knowledge as "both can be true".
Well said.
Thank you. Bottom line, I'm THANKFUL Trump was not killed. If nothing else, I want him to rout the Marxists out of power. But that will not end the broader war. This war against the American people will not be ended with the rout of the Dem Marxists. As long as the USG Empire exists, they will be the enemy of the American people. This is but one dramatic skirmish in a broader war for our liberty.
So those were real bullets within a few inches of his head,but he used a Hollywood splatter to fake it. Those people that died on stage behind him or were seriously injured, they in on it too? I agree, we have the deep state in every corner. I just don’t believe pdt is part of it.
Like the Vegas shooting, they could have been shot close up and no one would know. That's why autopsies are important. I am guessing though that these results won't be shown to the public.
Exactly. Nor will we see the results of any ballistic analysis that would prove or disprove where those bullets came from. If they were all from that one shooter, their trajectory is easily confirmed and one could easily see who would have been hit or not hit behind Trump. So the people that were hit, were they directly behind Trump on THAT trajectory?
So are you saying there were bullets whizzing past Trump?
Yes. Gateway Pundit has the picture taken by a photographer named Doug Mills. You can see the bullet streak. One bullet went THROUGH the top of Trump's ear.
OK, I'm not a photography expert but if that is the bullet, why is Trump's ear still intact?
Honestly, that to me looks like a chemtrail in sky behind Trump. Anyone else???????
HAHAHA omg--you cannot see a bullet from an AR whizz past--please STOP!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/caught-camera-moment-bullet-hits-trump-whizzes-past/
OK, I'm not a photography expert but if that is the bullet, why is Trump's ear still intact?
Honestly, that to me looks like a chemtrail in sky behind Trump. Anyone else???????
Well, I'm not going to say you are wrong. I don't have enough facts yet one way or the other but your take is easily in the realm of possible. "The powerful forces" are definitely involved one way or the other. I'm just not sure what their agenda is yet.
And there is more than one "powerful force" at work here. For example, the Apex money elite needs to walk back the excesses of their Marxists children in the USG because their actions are threatening to destroy the international dollar banking system. So the money elite may be working against the very forces in the USG that want Trump dead. All we are seeing is the public kinetic intersection.
Phil - please stop feeding the troll.
It’s a valid discussion.
No, it isn't. There are a couple trolls blowing this comment section up with unfounded idiocy. Drowning out and shouting down everyone else. Does no good to feed that. Especially when they have no access to any facts beyond what the rest of us know. It isn't discussion - it's two people shouting down everyone else.
Well, I'm not shouting at anyone. I'm clearly saying we don't have much to go on and I don't think this is the time for a hard position or a strident "first take."
I do like Jon Rappoport's first take...
https://jonrappoport.substack.com/p/the-trump-assassination-attempt
I realize that, Phil. I always respect and enjoy your posts. I was just asking not to feed the trolls who seem to have shown up today with an agenda of their own...and are going to jam it down our throats whether we like it or not.
Everyone has opinions at this point and nothing more. But, some seem to think their opinions are hard, proven fact. And, frankly, their lack of basic logic shows they just aren't that bright.
Who's jamming anything down your throat, RU? What's wrong with you. Don't you mean you don't LIKE other's opinions? They are rattling your TDS and that makes you angry! Maybe you should be a little more open-minded.
Gee, now you're following me around replying to every post I've made. Proves my point about trying to jam your ideas down others' throats. Thanks for that. I have no TDS. I am a pretty vocal Trump supporter. Also not angry. That would be you, the one posting a couple hundred times today, replying to every comment you don't like. So, no clue what you're talking about.
You responded to me calling me a "troll" and telling me to "STFU" lol. Nice try though. Denying what you are does not make it so. You are all of those things.
Thanks for proving my point again. LOL.
Phil is a troll.
Hello WS. Rough day. Re: Phil - Really? That's sad. I've always enjoyed (if not agreed with) his posts and he always has a respectful tone. Some of the other BS going on around here today...not so enjoyable or respectful.
Like, did you know: apparently the guy with the bullet hole through his ear did it to himself? And took the chance of being shot through the head in order to stage an event? And the people who started screaming and taking cover were actors? And the people who were shocked were actors? And the other people who were confused and didn't do anything were actors? And the USSS agents - who dove on top of and covered the President - were also acting? And they didn't even act out the "right" thing b/c they should have...carried him off or something...while there was still an active shooter?
I'm sorry, I just can't take these people today. Some folks are way too far down the rabbit hole and some folks just can't stand Trump to the degree they'll make up anything to justify their hatred of him. I shouldn't have clicked into this comment section today, lol.
Thanks RU, as is so often the case, you’ve expressed my own thoughts perfectly. I adhere to Occam’s Razor—these incredibly convoluted theories just don’t hold water for me.
Thanks, RL. Tough day. I think I was perhaps too harsh in a couple comments today. :-( I just don't have the mental space today for the theories that are a little too far down the rabbit hole. They seemed designed only to undermine Trump or conservatives more generally; either to make him the perpetrator instead of the victim and/or to make us look like drooling imbeciles. Occam's Razor, as you said.
It's too early to say much of substance, but I haven't seen anything so far that can't be explained by: too little secret service assigned to him; incompetence on the part of those assigned to him (as if it should surprise us that they'd assign the low performers or inexperienced agents to him); and 9+ years of totally unhinged propaganda aimed at Trump, pretty much designed to incite one of the crazies to violence. Seems to me that's the way the deep state operates: make people nuts with psychotropic meds and then incite them to violence via the media. Not sure anything we saw yesterday requires any more "layers" to explain it. But, I guess we'll see what we learn as this unfolds and we find out more about the shooter.
Good take on that.
Yes, agree with all of that. It’s just funny to me how some people seem sure of the “truth” without actual evidence. I’ve seen a lot of speculation based on beliefs and conjecture today, rather than any actual facts. And some think *any* supposed facts are not to believed. We’re accused of not being critical thinkers but to me, critical thinking doesn’t just mean automatically disbelieving everything, it’s analyzing the situation and deciding what makes sense based on the information you have and also based on past events or actions.
Well, you're correct in that. Rejecting everything that is offered as fact is the definition of uncritical reactivity. It's the opposite of critical thinking. It's based on logical fallacies.
Interesting, I just read this and for me it has shed new light on the entire discussion thread.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/07/15/dem-donor-to-journalists-write-that-the-trump-assassination-attempt-could-be-fake-n3791820?utm_source=twdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=ff122adc120777892b0ed7cb36c780a2414bf5035e9b18c4873055cc97b2027b&lctg=23670187
Thanks for sharing. It makes sense that the Dem brain trust would seed that narrative into the dialogue. I imagine the same happened with all the incidents that led to BLM riots.
Townhall has a good article on the shooter. Based off the comments from his classmates, neighbors, and instructor he was a smart but weird kid that had tendencies that his shooting instructor found disturbing. They didn't invite him back to the shooting class b/c of that and b/c he was a terrible shot. The more I think it through, the more it seems he panicked after he saw that cop look at him and just quickly fired a bunch of shots in the direction of Trump. Trump is very lucky. (Still doesn't explain why USSS didn't take him out before he shot, but basic incompetence could explain that. Or being gun shy about killing a possibly innocent person and having to deal with the anti-police MSM afterward. That alone would have tanked Trump's campaign. Police in general have been walking on eggshells post-George Floyd.)
Anyway, here is the article:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2024/07/15/trump-shooter-background-n2641869
Right? The simplest explanation that fits the facts is usually more right than wrong.
Thanks, RU, for your concern. Yes, it is a rough day; yet filled with a heart full of gratitude. How awesome is our God!
You’re spot on and I’m getting off now. Some of these people are flat out crazed with hatred.
OK...I'm not saying anything..........................
Or truthtellers--the same truthtellers you believed about the vaccine. But you just can't have your hero questioned or you'll have a nervous breakdown. Because you've pinned all your hopes on him and have nowhere else to turn. Put your big boy pants on.