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Richard C. Cook's avatar

True, we don't know exactly where the Covid weaponized virus was made or where it was first released. But we do know that the much more dangerous "jab" was being prepared before the first contagion. And we have enough circumstantial evidence to indicate that the whole operation was a military-directed genocide against the world's population. The pieces keep falling into place, don't they?

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Fauci needs to be indicted and interrogated without end. Then executed

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Politico Phil's avatar

Fauci was just a public goat/mouthpiece. The actual traitors that designed and executed the plandemic and created the kill weapon are the ones that should be hunted down and executed with prejudice. They are hidden away in the military which has unlimited/untraceable funding and is totally compartmentalized for secrecy.

The whole China connection was and is an elaborate smokescreen to divert any real investigation for the actual origins.

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Lori's avatar

Don't care if he was just a mouthpiece. He is bad news from way back when he was doing AIDS reasearch and testing on AIDS patients. He has got to go.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Agree! He should be immediately put on trial and pressured to divulge everything he knows and then found guilty of treason with the maximum sentence. If threatened with execution, he may squeal like a rate and lead to the real actors behind the scene.

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Lori's avatar

damn right but execution would be just considering his putrid deeds.

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taxpayer's avatar

Fauci has already been pardoned. Any trial would have to be by a state.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Trump can change that. Arbitrary pardons for any future charges are null and void. Pardons are only for existing criminal convictions - not hypothetical future crimes.

Laws and procedures made by men can be changed by men.

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Juju's avatar

Not to mention “auto-pens”

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RunningLogic's avatar

Especially with the recent push by the MO AG to have Joe Biden’s mental capacity at that time verified, which could render all of those pardons and possibly also EOs null and void.

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Maybe his entire presidency

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OnTheJump's avatar

Hoping like hell that this comes to fruition.

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Politico Phil's avatar

More good points!

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Jay Horton's avatar

Hi RL,

Don't you think that if that were so, the Trump team would be exploiting that, just saying? They "seem" to be no holds barred short of good manners and decorum.

Best to you.

Later Jay

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Juju's avatar

They probably ARE Jay, but it takes time to draft up the motions they will have to file in court and be solid on strategies as well as remain steps ahead. They seem to do nothing until they are absolutely ready to win when challenged. That takes planning.

Not letting the left know what they are doing ahead of time is what has served this administration so well. How much of what they did in the first month was announced in the preceding months after winning the election? Hardly any of it. They had been working a long time on everything they did AND prepared responses to legal motions that they knew would be filed against them and/or prepared traps and strategies. They never showed their hand until they were ready, and that’s why the transition team stayed at Mar A Lago, to the aggravation of Dems and RINOs alike. A lot of what Joe did and signed happened right before he left office so now they need time to create an action plan that doesn’t fail. I’m confident Biden’s autopen wild ride is being looked at closely and actions are being planned.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well they’d need to prove it first. They can’t just declare it and then nullify everything Biden did (as appealing as that might sound in a way).

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right?!!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

And RENDITIONS can always be reinstated... in this case and many others.. they SHOULD be.

Fauci being waterboarded is a nice thought... all the TRUTH that he would cough up... Dasak and Hotez too... Bancel... the Fort Detrick crew...

On deck... Nuland, Brennan, Elias, Monaco, Sullivan, Cheney (both), Milley, Eisen, Comey, Wray, Mayorkas, Hunter... Chutkan, Bragg, Fani, Merchan... GARLAND... many many more...

Yes, time to take the gloves off... and the waves of truth would do much to wash away the swamp...

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly! When it comes to mass murder by your own Gov't, there should be NO gloves for the bad actors.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Oh, so many…and they are just too criminally evil not to be dealt with by a just government.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yes. And with so many corrupt politicians and judges... hampering a just government... some rules need to be broken for a while...

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OnTheJump's avatar

Not sure WHAT to make of this........seems a PAST crime falls under the ' pardon Umbrella ", but not a FUTURE crime. I do hope you are right, because this preemptive pardon BS is just that - BS.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/verify/government-verify/can-president-pardon-someone-crime-they-have-not-been-charged-with-fact-check/536-8cf9810d-1b64-40fe-add9-32a2d2a6786e#:~:text=GE%20Profile%20Smart,conviction%20and%20judgment.%E2%80%9D

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yep, can you imagine going to Vegas with that sort of "preemptive pardon" -cha ching!

Later Jay

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liz's avatar

there are now big questions about those pardons. since an AUTOPEN SIGNED MOST OF BIDEN"S ORDERS AND PARDONS. this may not be open and shut anymore

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CMCM's avatar

We need to know who operated the autopen.

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Lori's avatar

do it any way we can to get him to trial. he was pardoned bc he is a dirtbag henious subhuman and biden knew it. fauci must pay and pay dearly.

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Linda Studer's avatar

Hunt them down like they did the Nazi war criminals.

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liz's avatar

HA! likeminded.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The legality of that pardon may be questioned

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

The real actors aren’t behind the scenes. They are Pelosi and Jarret. Right out in front. Help from Obama.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think Obama knows he is marked by Trump... it is only a matter of time.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

I think he would have pulled his security clearance if that were true.

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STH's avatar

Don’t forget dog torture!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Ralph Baric, Debra Birx, and Peter Daszak come to mind, along with yet unnamed people in the Pentagon, the Intel community, and the heads of Big Pharma.

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Politico Phil's avatar

They should all be arrested for treason and put under pressure until they divulge everything they know.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Forgot to include people like Paul Offit, Peter Hotez, and Bill Gates.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The list is long... Lots of potential rats who will start pointing fingers to save their skin.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I love the idea of rats ratting each other out.

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Lori's avatar

pls do not insult the rats, they have more integrity.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They just have instinct, they don’t deliberately do harm unlike those human vermin who knew they were doing evil things and freely chose to do them.

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Lori's avatar

Damn right plus I have 2 pet rats and they are more intelligent than I am any day of the week!

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... my son's had pet rats. Amazingly intelligent and affectionate creatures... in such a little package. Mice, OTOH, are dumb as a sack of rocks.

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kittynana's avatar

@Phil- LOL

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79SmithW60's avatar

Just do the 1984 room 101 treatment to Fraudci and the above list of A*#clowns... they'll talk, and scream...

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Lori's avatar

Add a dash of Dexter as well!

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79SmithW60's avatar

Absolutely!!

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Emumundo's avatar

Don’t forget Francis Colin’s.

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Lori's avatar

Oh yes, believe me, that POS is NEVER forgotten.

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liz's avatar

DONT FORGET ACADEMIA> DUKE and HARVARD AND MIT if memory serves me.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Two more to add to your list are UNC Chapel Hill, and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Complex.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

MSM as well. John Hopkins Bloomberg school

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liz's avatar

OF COURSE! Hopkins is in this UP TO THEIR NECKS. and TRANSING KIDS TOO

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Bill Gates

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Billy (from the) Gates (of hell) can’t swing quickly

enough for me.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Definitely some of the most guilty.

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Lisa Runquist's avatar

He was more than a mouthpiece. He was the overseer of many awful "medical" experiments and should ne subjected to the same experiments.

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Politico Phil's avatar

It would be so easy to publicly display all his past sadistic experiments on puppies and orphan children and raise public cry for his execution in order to pressure him. Simply seize all his ill-gotten gains by freezing his accounts and then arrest him for treason. No mercy!

Fauci should be arrested under military law for treason. No civil rights.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Now that I like!

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Melissa S's avatar

The "blame China" narrative makes me angry. Was China complicit? Absolutely! But since the scamdemic was bought and paid for by the US, those involved in our government that ordered and funded the operation are the guiltier party. As well as the WHO and whatever other international entities that were involved with the scamdemic orchestration and ensuing cover-up.

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Dr Linda's avatar

There were USA. Companies invoked, as well as our tax dollars. We essentially paid for this despicable disaster

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Angus McPherson's avatar

The blame China thing is a way of burying the true perpetrators. Watch, as the Overton window slides up the sash and people realize that they have been duped, the useful greediots like Fauci and his gang of labcoat wearing street thugs will have to push China under the bus and stand back and say a la Bart Simpson "I didn't do it!"

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liz's avatar

I agree. WHO IS FUNDING ANY CONTINUIING RESEARCH IN CHINA? WHO ARE THE ACTORS? is it CHINA or US interests. this matters. Lets not feed the war hunger.

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micciot's avatar

Didn’t Epstein finance some Harvard big boys who were ultimately arrested for connections with China???

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Summer 2019, Fort Detrick, Maryland...

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liz's avatar

Look to them for the Origins of AIDS too. Fauci and this group in "intelligence" have been at this A LOOOOOONG time.

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Dr Linda's avatar

This is not fauci’s first rodeo. He has done this before. He knew exactly what he was doing. He believes he is above the rules. It worked before

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liz's avatar

Fauci is crying out for PUNISHMENT. but I agree. the actual puppeteers are who we need to be focusing on rt now. Sure they made MEGABUCKS from killing us all w the V. but Meanwhile. WHO IN THE DOD IS SUGNING OFF ON THIS SHIT?? WHO STARTED IT! and how many in DOD KNEW AND COVERED IT UP?? AND ACADEMIA... all of them! this is like the Nazi hunt on steroids. And wishing for no ALLEN DULLES to hide them and spirit them off to some country w no extradition agreement.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Liz, you are on a roll today, ma'am! You go!

Later Jay

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MarshaLouise's avatar

She is, she understands.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Political Phil, you got that right. This sinister plot has layers of obfuscation. We have to peel back the layers of the onion, and as we do we find what we though was true was just a deflection: it wasn't a bat virus in a wet lab. Oh no, it was a virus that was leaked from a Chinese lab doing research. The US had noyhing to do with it. Oh, wait. A U.S lab in Chapel Hill N.C. was doing gain of function research and when Obama put a moritorium on gain of function, we sent our research to Wuhan and helped fund their reaearch. Wait a minute, evidence points to the fact that our U.S. goverment has been doing gain of function for a long time (like the Government lab on Plum island since the 1940's, (which accidemtaly released the experimentat tics that are responsible for the lyme disease out break). And then there is evidence in the U.S. Patent office that a patent was issued to the government for the Covid 19 VIRUS BEFORE 2010 ( between 2007 and 2009), oh and a second patent was issued A YEAR LATER, for the COVID 19 VACCINE.. Wow, that explains alot. The vaccine was likely a bioweapon years in the making. But wait there is more!. Not only does the vaccine have the ferrin cleavage section, AIDS sequence, and the SP40 monkey virus sequence that promotes tumor growth, and the contamination with LARGE amounts of plamid DNA that can contaminate our native DNA, the latest finding from Karen Kingston and Dr Anna Maria Mehalcea that the lipid nano particles, which are suppose to be an innert protective delivery system, are in actuality very toxic disease causing entities and may be reponsible for much of the damage and harm. OMG! What are they going to find next. This Covid 19 genetic manipulating therapeutic is a dangerous time bomb, the seriousness of which we are just beginning to figure out. God help us!

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MarshaLouise's avatar

I believe that you accurately covered the salient points, but the part about the USA DOD ordering the mass production of the vax implicates our own military and that is no small matter.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

Yes, he was *just* a mouthpiece, but that doesn't minimize the harm he perpetrated, which makes him 100% guilty for all the evil of the "covid" scam. Of course we must investigate and bring to justice and accountability those who pulled his strings, but his willingness to be so used is enough guilt for him to be prosecuted, and intense interrogation could help reveal even more than we already know about the traitors in our country who run this psyop and for whom they are working.

Puppets and mouthpieces should *never* be given a pass, but must provide an example for the ultimate consequences of selling out.

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

Disagree. He should be the first to be executed. The fact that Fauci KNEW what went on in the Wuhan Lab and he kept quiet. He never did anything to bring the truth to light... and in fact, he promoted the lies and the disastrous results. But just to make sure HIS FINANCIAL GAINS didn't dry up, he kept up the charade for years.

Millions died around the world and are dying still.

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Deanna Chambers's avatar

It was fauci who okayed US funding to go towards the research. He’s in it neck deep.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

It’s not publicly known whether the bioweapon vax, not virus, was made in the Ukraine or Wuhan lab. I keep thinking that Wuhan is a screen to keep us from real knowledge about the Ukraine bioweapons labs.

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On an island's avatar

I always used to think torture tactics and public executions were so medieval, something only more primitive and brutish people would participate in. The Covid Games have made me kind of understand the appeal. All of the gamemakers need to suffer for what they’ve done to us.

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liz's avatar
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with a PUBLIC TRIAL AND ALL EVIDENCE PRESENTED> we cant risk losing public support by becoming the French Revolution, right?

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On an island's avatar

Yes of course. I don’t know how much more evidence is needed but you’re right that the (largely ignorant) public needs to hear it. Although I doubt many of the brainwashed masses will believe even objective truth these days.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Yep, many will believe a rug is really a chair because you can sit on it. The brainwashed are often horribly ignorant.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Darn right.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

I loathe Fauci so it is not based on any compassion for him that I would oppose actual torture, but mainly because there is scant indication that it works. There are far more effective interrogation techniques to get to the truth. That doesn't mean he should be made comfortable in the process, however.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Psychological torture is more effective then mere physical pain.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Torture may not "work" to produce evidence, but it can make for good PPV.

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Mitch's avatar

not executed. sandflies

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Abiding Dude's avatar

LOL!! Testicle crushers? Fingernail pullers? Red hot pokers up the keister?

Good man, Mitch!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I want to see him in a puppy cage.

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chuck kutchera's avatar

Then let some beagles pee on him for good measure.

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Beth Golden's avatar

Along with scarf lady!

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Marilee Cannia's avatar

YES! Please God!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

And Bill Gates

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Marilee Cannia's avatar

Yep, him too.

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Deanna Chambers's avatar

Absolutely. It will never happen though. That cold blooded narcissist has earned it though.

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Fortified City's avatar

I say water board him he knows everything; where’s Mission Impossible when you need them.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Fauci needs some lawfare to come his way. Would love to see this rich man (from our taxpayer dollars) go broke during his “retirement” due to a decade of legal bills

It’d be Karma at its finest

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chuck kutchera's avatar

In public !

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Lone Star exile's avatar

Absolutely interrogated...who was/is his boss?

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Satan

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Rosie Langridge's avatar

Well I hope I'm allowed a different opinion.

I think the virus was artificial twice over. I mean, it was easy to 'manipulate' and no tricky technology was required. Because it was created on a computer. As such any segments can be included, it's still a string of computer coding.

Not until the vaccines were made did this string of computer coding start to take on a physical reality.

My evidence: that death rates did not go up (except in institutions) until the vaccine rollout. There's much evidence for that statement I'll describe some if anyone wants it.

To be sure, before the vaccines people got sick, but in my observation this was because (a) people do get sick every year (b) the relentless propaganda and fearporn made people sick in body and mind (c) the authorities deliberately made people sick in various ways.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly right Rosie! All demonstrated by Dr. David Martin from the beginning. It was NOT a virus. It was a man-made construct from a computer simulation of a coronavirus. AND it was replication defective. It had to be MANUALLY deployed in order to simulate a pandemic. What friggin' con!

And to your point, all-cause mortality did not go up UNTIL after the shot was deployed - the real kill weapon. The pandemic was instilled in the public mind by reclassifying all colds and flu's as "covid". It was all bullshit. And we're still falling for it.

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rolandttg's avatar

the real pandemic was Fear, not a virus.

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Beth M's avatar

I agree. People are still "getting sick with covid" and at this point that's literally impossible.

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Kiara Sands's avatar

I see all of the ideals behind this thought process and do respect them however, I was very, very sick with Covid. My feet were on fire and my stomach was burning. I could not keep anything down or inside of my body. My sense of taste completely disappeared. It took a year for it to come back. I have overall been a very healthy holistic person all of my life, (Westen Price, raw milk, organic foods no antibiotics use glass not plastic breast-feed for three years, homeschool, etc. )but I have never experienced something like that, I believe it was man-made, but I do believe it existed even prior to the vaccine.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Bad flu!

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Rosie Langridge's avatar

I remember David Martin's address to the Corona Ausschuss quite early on. I remember him describing the lengthy list of patents.

Can you help me out, either I misunderstood him, or you did!

I thought he was telling us about 'gain of function' on actual physical viruses. But I think you are saying that he showed that it was never physical, nothing more than a list of letters. If so I wish I'd grasped that point more quickly.

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Tom Wiedemeier's avatar

I’ve read for 5 years that the “virus” has never been isolated. That it is non existent. If that’s the case then WHAT was it that millions of people contracted? I was VERY sick during Thanksgiving 2020 with the symptoms everyone else had. I don’t believe it was the simple flu. What flu ever took the sense of smell and taste from millions? BEFORE the kill shot. Never before from my knowledge. This is the 1 thing that validates the existence of something.

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Rosie Langridge's avatar

Well in my opinion, and I have some supportive observations as well, that 'something' was a toxic chemical. Glyphosate is a possibility.

It doesn't need to be a single toxin. Recalling that toxins can interact, including radiation.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Most of the wide awake people here are not falling for it, Phil, and you are right so many still are wearing masks, etc., but along with the man-made construct virus was the real-killer “cure” bioweapon “vaccine”. We all pretty much have the picture. But stupid people don’t know they are stupid!

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Juju's avatar

“Like” for supporting you in being allowed to have a difference of opinion and to be allowed to share it.

One thing I love about C&C is that we embrace free speech wholly. We like to debate all sides. Shaming someone for their sharing of an unpopular opinion that triggers you and then telling them to “stay on topic” and keep their prejudices to themselves is just wrong and a form of bullying to silence someone. It actually happened elsewhere in this community chat today. I know for certain I am not the only one noticing.

Even if I disagreed with that original poster’s opinion, I don’t feel a need to silence them or their views. Anyone that does that has something deeply disturbing and wrong inside of them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree. As long as people express their opinion civilly, I am glad to have the opportunity to read different points of view. It enriches the discussion. We don’t all have to agree on every single thing.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Fine. Just so long as your definition of civility doesn’t go so far as to attempt to silence those of us with strong opinions, who having lived many decades, are done with stupidity and eager to move it on down the road.

Case in point; President Trump and his ‘mean tweets’ and shorthand descriptive nicknames.

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kittynana's avatar

@Willing- I'm with you on the name calling. It's one reason we stopped watching Hannity.

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God Bless America's avatar

Watching Hannity “shill” for the death shot stopped me from ever watching him again… 🔥

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kittynana's avatar

@GBA- He did? Yikes.

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kittynana's avatar

@Anja- have you read Chadwick Moore's book on Tucker? Again....yikes. It's an honest, well written book but....yikes...

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kittynana's avatar

@Anja- despite his boyish looks, Tucker's not an angel.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I have never attempted to silence anyone with strong opinions, whether or not I share them. I am kind of surprised you would make that remark to me, for as long as we’ve both been on here commenting. It’s kind of a moot point, because I wouldn’t have the power to silence anyone here anyway, even if I wanted to, which I don’t. But I have certainly been subject to sone rather rude and juvenile name-calling and in a few discussions. I just don’t engage with those people anymore. If a person can’t have a disagreement or difference of opinion without being foul mouthed and making ad hominem attacks, I’m not interested in any discussion with them. That’s all I meant to say with my comment about being civil.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I really wasn’t intending to call anyone out specifically. If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t wear it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well you responded to *me* specifically, and didn’t say that you were speaking in more general terms. So it seems kind of natural that I might think the comment was meant for me, and you also used the wording “*your* definition of civility” in your response 🤷‍♀️ It was at the very least ambiguous. So that’s why I misunderstood, I guess. But thank you for the clarification.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

My sincere apologies. My language skills should have led me to say, “…one’s definition of civility.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

No worries! 🙂 That’s the hard part about commenting online, not having tone of voice or seeing a person’s facial expressions to help with nuances of meaning 🙂 It’s easier to misconstrue a comment.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Thank you Juju. Civility reigns.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Integrity reigns. Hitler enjoyed classical music and was quite ‘civil’ by some definitions.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Good point. Reminds me of the charming, articulate, well groomed gentleman named Ted Bundy.

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kittynana's avatar

@Willing-he knew the arts quite well.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

A new phrase that I really dislike "stay in your lane". Am I missing something? Under what circumstances would saying that be a helpful comment?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Came out of the same culture as ‘b*tches and ho’s’.

I also dislike.

Saw it in the workplace to try and shut down any criticism of incompetent work.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Jessica Hockett has done a deep dive into what went on in New York, and she keeps getting railroaded on her FOI requests on hospital bed occupancy and death certificates in the "ground zero" of the COVID disaster.

There was an increase in death rates, and most of it was hospital and nursing home deaths. Nursing homes, because perhaps they were not sent to hospitals during lockdown and in hospitals due to "hospital protocols" rather than a "dangerous novel virus" doing the job itself.

And it can't be underrated the constant fear and panic narratives hammered into the public for years.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly. The CDC mandated protocols were lethal.

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Porge's avatar

Their protocols nearly killed me, my doctor refused to treat my double pneumonia because it was " viral " then I was coughing so hard I blew a hole in my lung and collapsed it. 12 days in the hospital with a chest tube!😡

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

So glad you made it out!

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Porge's avatar

Thanks Katherine, I'm glad too!!😊

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rolandttg's avatar

Former son in law was a Navy nurse on the Mercy docked in NYC, and he said they were never busy, at most ~100 patients, and most not with covid. Meanwhile, crew was billeted in NYC hotels when not on duty, and not even allowed to leave their rooms.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Just more oddness and weirdness.

We should be able to find a ton of anecdotal reports on EMT's first responders, doctors, and nurses, all harried and over-worked due to COVID in NYC.

There are some stories to this effect. but most of what I remember early on the nurse in NYC who struggled with the protocols employed during Covid, not the disease itself. A lot of times, intubation was attractive because the workers felt afraid they would catch Covid.

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Deanna Chambers's avatar

Yes my mother died completely alone in a hospital room. It enrages me how many people made millions and didn’t give a rat’s patootie about all the people they basically killed.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I did get to experience that loneliness during my four-month stay at the hospital in 2021-2022. At one point around Christmas, there was an uptake in Covid patients and they restricted visitation for about two weeks. I could contact others during that time and did, but I see now far more on the patient end the value of those who came to visit me.

I was not hospitalized for Covid but for recovery from an amputation due to Long Diabetes, which I was diagnosed with back in 2016, but suspected much longer.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

There have been many whistleblowers who have witnessed outright euthanasia! Zip tied to beds, unfed for weeks, administered death drugs like morphine and remdesivir. Taking very ill to nursing homes to spread the “love”. It was a very dark and horrible time in our history! How staff could turn into such beasts, I cannot imagine.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

A read of The Gulag Archipelago will give you the answer.

I have seen a lot of the videos of nurses who witnessed these events and families who endured them. The most heart-breaking were the ones where the parents were separated from special needs children or elderly who were senile, or had other areas of incapacity.

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CHop's avatar

I agree with you on the death rates, but there was something more than the flu going on. In January/February, people were getting weirdly ill. I personally know an adult whose oxygen levels were so low, it baffled doctors that she was still conscious. And a few kids around 10 years old who were temporarily paralyzed with confusingly low iron levels. And others with what we now know is covid toe. This is all not normal flu.

They all were connected to private schools, one which had a Chinese exchange student who came back from China after break and was out sick in January 2020.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I had the same experience. Weirdly ill though I got over it in a matter of days as I was taking ivermectin and hydroxychlorine. But what no one wants to talk about is that no natural pathogen, altered or not, would produce such a WIDE range of different effects. These symptoms are OBVIOUSLY induced by an artificial toxin... a synthetic man-made vector.

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Hannah's avatar

5G roll out and activation?

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Quiltlady's avatar

Thank you Hannah! I was about to comment the same. The symptoms of Covid 19 are exactly the same as the symptoms of EMF Radiation poisoning.

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Hannah's avatar

Thank you, Quiltlady! To run a study accurately, you want to keep your subjects physically separated and away from as many healthy factors as possible that would counteract the negative effects being tested, like sunlight, negative ions from nature/bodies of water, social interaction, etc. This might be the reason, in part, why the lockdowns were enforced to such an extreme degree.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good point. The plandemic attack was a mosaic attack on us.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Que chemtrails

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God Bless America's avatar

Same with my hubby and I… Nasty, nasty, flu… No taste or smell… 101° to 103° fever for 8 to 11 days. My four youngest boys got over it pretty quickly… No issues… 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 we took horse paste. Obviously not a good enough dose. 🤨

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Tracy's avatar

I have said the whole time whatever it's called it's like nothing I've ever had before. No taste or smell for weeks. Fatigue and fever for weeks. Developed a nasty sinus infection with days of 104 temp. Had to get antibiotics. I've never had an infection in my life. No Vax. I am just getting over the flu and it's the devil also. Others horror stories about this flu abound. Some people are sick for weeks. I'm assuming most are maxed but some people I know personally have not been jabbed but still are having a hard time recovering.

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kittynana's avatar

@Phil- besides heart damage, my husband has had a range of weird things. I've taken it upon my self to get ahold of an immunologist for him. He goes later this month. I wanna see what the bloodwork shows. Yes, he had the shots. I didn't.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Check out what Dr. Mihalcea has found to be effective against the shot's effects.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The problem is that "weirdly ill" in a time of "weirdness" could just be subjective in nature. I got sick in February of that year and remember idly thinking that it could be Covid. We were already talking about people who went to the hospital in their seventies and tested negative for the flu.

But, if you talk to people who are old, do they ever claim that getting ill always remains the same as you get older?

Throughout my life, I have gotten weirdly ill on a number of occasions. If I had been told at the time there was a "novel deadly virus" going around I would immediately go...this must be it then. But is it?

I do not discount the toxin theory though. I mean, they coerced everyone to take an experimental injection, so would they also induce it by releasing a toxin?

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Narratives. Gotta love narratives.

The problem with these "something more than the flu going around" is how much of it were actual problems vs. perceived problems? Some people did get ill, but was it a toxin? Was it something they ate or drank?

I don't know. The problem is it wasn't universal, ubiquitous, and deadly, was it? It could also very well could have been some sort of malnutrition. And there were a lot of negative narratives going around at the time. Can the cumulative effect of negativity have physiological ramifications?

The Chinese exchange student..is a product of our Hollywood contagion theory of disease. The problem is diseases don't work like that. RNA cannot pandemic. It mutates far too quickly. The guys from the Cochrane review will also tell you that only a very small percentage of what we attribute to "cold and flu" respiratory-like illness comes from "known sources." So we all could very well constantly be inundated by "novel sources" of these symptoms.

I also point at human nature. How many child abduction stories does it take before we all start keeping our children on a tighter leash? Highway sniper stories and there is a perception that at each exit ramp there lies a lone shooter. How many pit bull attacks before the kennels are full of rescue "bulls"?

I posted a Facebook post five years ago yesterday that featured the character from "Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy..but as a coronavirus with the caption "Don't Panic and Take All The Toilet Paper." It was already far too late.

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liz's avatar

the Virus was created to serve the "vax " and vax mandates. yes. Depopulation was the goal.

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kittynana's avatar

@Liz- I've been saying that since the beginning. Think of all the Silent Generation and the older Boomers who could have been wiped out, saving SS billions.

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CHop's avatar

And Medicaid and Pensions that they already spent

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Roger Beal's avatar

Centralized control was the real goal. Depop was a bonus feature they aimed for.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Agree 100% and pelosi and obeyme went to china, just before. To Wuhan’s, actually. Right to that lab. Do you think they were there for a friendly visit? They needed a way to keep trump out of office, and killing him would martyr him. So mail in ballots! Yay. Get china to take the blame. “ what can we offer china?” 85 billion in weapons, and poppy fields. “Ok we take blame”. For a virus that doesn’t exist, so they can test humanity, roll out a kill shot, steal an election. Three birds.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Read Clancy's Rainbow Six published in the late 90's

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Donna in MO's avatar

FWIW, this article from July 2020 is still the best I've found regarding the origin. 6 miners cleaning up bat guano in Mojiang in 2012 got sick, and 3 died. The virus was then brought to WIV - where the author does not think it was juiced up, but this was also early on, and I DO think it was. https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/

Anyway, interesting reading, including the Master's Thesis that was translated. It's been too long now, but read other articles around that time comparing covid to RATG13.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That is the cover story. Go listen to Dr. David Martin for the real story.

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Lori's avatar

Worked on with Wuhan and Univ of NC at Chapel Hill with Ralph Baric. On our own soil.

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Levans's avatar

So when the world becomes angry enough with U.S. for this fiasco ... WW3 on our soil ?

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Already occurring. Our Southern border is in more peril than most think.

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Beth M's avatar

Yes

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Jeff had the wrong question "was it a naturally occurring virus that spilled out due to sloppy lab safety? Or was it deliberately engineered?". The real question is was the engineered bioweapon intentionally or accidentally released? Event 201 conducted on October 18, 2019 is a very large caliber smoking gun that tells us the answer to this question, along with the discarded shells of that event scripts around the worlds response to the bioweapon. Then all that remains for questioning is, what was the intent behind launching the massive bioweapon terrorist attack? Event 201 and WEF once again give obvious clues, and when you consider 2 things - China has been at a not-so-stealth but ignored war with the west and US for a long time, and the absolute hatred and panic over Trump by all leftists and globalists which are really professional level thieves and grifters, it paints the picture well. From this view you can see why things happened - the plandemic obviously, stolen 2020 election, massive spending to import illegals to vote for and keep demoncrats in power, the exposed grand theft treasury in USAID and government agencies to NGOs enemies, and super-money laundrymats back to the same demoncrats and thieves, ad nauseum. (note the thieves and whores are not all demoncrats, as those professions know no political boundaries with plenty of republicans as well... cough Mitch cough, but it is the key feature of demoncrats).

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Jeff's avatar

I remember wondering in late 2019 what kind of October surprise the Democrats would come up with for the 2020 election. The economy was booming and Presidents are almost always reelected if the economy is doing well in an election year. When the news of the coronavirus began to saturate the news cycle and all of the hysteria about shutting everything down began it dawned on me that *this* was the October surprise, though I guess in this case it was more of a “January” surprise. It seemed so far fetched I kept doubting myself, but turns out I was right. These are some evil people we’re dealing with

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I was the same.

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Deanna Chambers's avatar

Evil is putting it mildly.

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Cheryl Milroy's avatar

If "they" wanted to circumvent the 2020 Election and steal it, it would make sense that "they" would intentionally release to bring about the steal with mail in votes.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Jeff understands more than he states because he has to phrase his missives in a manner that will not get him attacked, de-banked and de-platformed. This is clear if you read carefully, ie, "deliberately engineered". He completely understands the evidence brought forth by Dr. David Martin.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Yeah I know he understands, I just pointed out it is the wrong question that was stated.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good one.

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Susie & Security's avatar

The plandemic plays right into China's "2049 plan" with its goal of becoming the #1 world power. China's efforts to achieve their goal will not be done peacefully.

https://www.thestrategicperspective.org/articles/chinas-2049-plan-a-big-challenge-before-the-world/

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Part and parcel of Mao's plan for China's future.

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Not Me's avatar

China will implement its plan using subterfuge. This is how they operate.

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AM Schimberg's avatar

I really don't think it was ABOUT the 2020 election. That was a fortuitous side effect for "them." It was really about the "vaccine" and raking in as much as they possibly could while they could from the "cure." Follow the money. That's why they had to kill people with the hospital "treatments" and disallow any of the treatments that actually worked. That's why they had to downplay and outright sensor any reporting of adverse events or deaths from the vax.

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rolandttg's avatar

This was beyond money. This was the tool the globalists chose to usher in their one world government where you owned nothing and would be happy. 15 minute cities, social credit scores, carbon credit scores., chipped tracked and traced, And never, ever having to have any elections again, or any challenge to their rule. Cabal end game wet dream.

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Sandy's avatar

I just posted that gaining Canada and Greeland is not a random idea. Look up the Club of Rome and the 10 Kingdoms. We are Region 1.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yet they needed time and many thought that Trump’s reelection would halt the fear mongering and the drive towards mandates.

My doctor said as much. She said she believed it would all go away after the election in November 2020. Neither of us could have imagined what was to come.

And I believe there was a totalitarian group that would have gleefully locked us all down indefinitely and taken all our freedoms.

So I do think that stealing the election was a goal.

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Kathy's avatar

I think it was about vaccine passports and digital ID. That would be the end of all freedom to move, think and transact.

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Jay Horton's avatar

"note the thieves and whores are not all demoncrats, as those professions know no political boundaries with plenty of republicans as well..." Boom there it is!!! So true.

Later Jay

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Roger Beal's avatar

They truly earned the name "Uniparty".

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Beth M's avatar

What if the pandemic WAS event 201? What if they control the world that deep that they literally put us through their simulation in real time? With a real vector of infection via air, food or water? Sometimes I believe it is that sinister and we truly have that little control over our own lands and lives.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

That's not the real question either, it is "was it dangerous to begin with?"

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Maureen ODH's avatar

It’s insane we are still questioning the origin of Covid five years after the fact… go back to December and January 2019 arrest of one Charles Lieber funded by NIH Fauci under the DOD — Criminal Complaint charging Dr. Charles Lieber ("LIEBER") with making materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statements in a matter within the jurisdiction o f the Executive Branch o f the United States, in violation o f Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001(a)(2). Specifically, based upon the evidence gathered thus far in this ongoing investigation, I have probable cause to believe and do, in fact, believe that LIEBER made materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statements regarding his participation in China's Thousand Talents Plan to the U.S. Department of Defense ("DoD") on or about April 24, 2018. I also have probable cause to believe and do, in fact, believe that, on or about January 10, 2019, LIEBER made and caused to be made a series of materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statements to the National Institutes of Health ("NIH") about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and.his affiliation with Wuhan University of Technology ("WUT") in China. · Lieber was caught handing two Chinese nationals headed for China, “vials” of allegedly experimental material… then connect the dots of Gates and John Hopkins Event 201 October 17, 2019 pandemic preparedness… then connect the dots that Fauci announced in the media in 2017 that Trump would experience a pandemic…. I’m not buying they still don’t know… the whole manufactured thing is a coverup the powers that be don’t want exposed. Period.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/press-release/file/1239796/dl?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1qS6iA10-qrSvymFqnTw8Tj62wN6jekrKxUNOGY_Nc1Hp9RMJOgGXDO0E_aem_DM-uZSyLP6nX4tES8MdhSw

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you! And that, folks, is the real truth.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Thank you Politico Phil 🙏

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Alice Ball's avatar

I followed Covid very closely starting in March 2020 and by December 20, I knew they were lying. It was obvious they were lying about the origin right from the get/go, but the lockdowns and mandated shots really revealed who they truly are. My understanding of it is that Bush started the bio weapon program after 911 because that was what they feared was next. He appointed Fauci. One of the world’s leading coronavirus researchers is Ralph Baric at the university of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Supposedly he created it, but I don’t think he is a nefarious actor. I agree that this was a military DOD program and that they had actually already developed the vaccine. Warp speed was taking an already made vaccine and giving it to Pharma for money making. No safety studies done. Fauci and Francis Collins & Birx are responsible for all of the “disinformation”—-also known as lies—-told to the public in 2020. We were all saved by the Dems cheating to steal the 2020 election bc Trump would never have been able to accomplish then what he is doing now. I think in the end, Trump will publish all of it re covid. Thank God for Elon Musk buying Twitter and then handing it off to Taibbi and Shellenberger and Weiss to discover the Twitter files and the vampire squid that is government censorship of citizens free speech. Without the censorship arm, they could never have gotten away with it. You can thank Obama and all of his totalitarians for that. They are getting their just desserts now.

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Scott S.'s avatar

Exactly. Evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, points to a “leak” just as deliberate as any press leak. The rationale that “no one is that evil” has long been disproven.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I believe the evil person(s) viewed the entire Vid process, jabs included, as a lab experiment. The test subjects were human. Morals, ethics, common decency were not oart of the variables.

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shayne's avatar

Right over the target, Richard.

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David Z Joseph's avatar

Yes yes yes

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JSR's avatar

Probably North Carolina

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Yes… Fort Detrick, Chapel Hill NC…

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jewel's avatar

or Ukraine Metabiota?

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liz's avatar

YES DOD CONNECTED from all Ive read. OUR MILITARY AT THE TOP CONSPIRING TO MASS MURDER US?? sorry to get all excited about this... but.....

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Kathy Sincere's avatar

Covid origins by Dr. David Martin. He has been speaking on this from day one of Covid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSz209wV8g

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Sasha Latypova knows all about how the DOD ordered big pharma to produce the killer vax.

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NeoBob's avatar

Not an endorsement, but I just was made aware of this group is stood up against GoF - or maybe just to control it better, not sure. https://biosafetynow.substack.com/ and https://biosafetynow.org/who-we-are/. Does anyone know who's behind this group? They claim they're not Rutgers and not Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Check out the theories of John Cullen, which are starting to make inroads among knowledgeable members of the scientific community.

https://mobile.twitter.com/I_Am_JohnCullen

He has a provocative theory that Covid was really the H7N9 virus that had been developed during the Obama administration, when the rogue Fauci faction decided to defy the order to shut down our bioweapons research and development.

His theory seems to be that Trump had been notified that this H7N9 virus was out there, that our scientists had been developing a vaccine for several years to counter this H7N9, and had convinced Trump that he really had no choice other than allow the vaccine to be available and administered. If not, there would have been deaths of unimaginable proportions on Trump’s watch.

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