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Freedom in FL's avatar

I love a Sunday bonus Coffee and Covid! Thank you

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Maureen ODH's avatar

What an unexpected Sunday morning surprise, thank you Jeff… enjoyed the well written comedy šŸ˜‚ among what feels like vindication for our team is finally breaking news…. šŸ’—

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Julie Ann B's avatar

It was a wonderful surprise! Thank you Jeff!

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Kim's avatar

Yes, thanks Jeff!

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nancy knox-bierman's avatar

ditto!! Enjoy the vacay, Childers Family!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right?? It’s always such a delightful surprise!! šŸ˜

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GG's avatar

I woke up around 5 this morning and ā€œhad a feelingā€ today would be a bonus day! Sunday C&C is such a treat!

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AngelaK's avatar

Never underestimate our women's intuition! šŸ˜‰šŸ˜Ž

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Gram's avatar

But reading promotion of bird flu? Jeff, there is no such thing!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's really the new Big Thing.

Covidians will be excited to add bird flu to their list of vaxxinations.

More shots = more safer!

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Ditto!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The best timing!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Maybe the main difference between Trump’s case and biden’s case is there is actual evidence in biden’s case. That must be confusing to MSM

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Ann-Marie Krul's avatar

As well as an actual crime

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Tio Nico's avatar

Well, yes, a thing erroneously LABELLED a crime.

The tick boxes on the 4473 Form are merely bait to either incriminate ones self or confirm compliance with a "law" that should not BE a law....

I really hope Hunter beats this ridiculous case. MJ should NOT be a Sched 1 drug, it does not meet the requirements to be included in that category at all. And for FedGov to determine that possession and/or use of that substance on Friday renders one a lawbreaker if he possesses one bolt action twenty two rifle on the following Wednesday.

If the standards established in Bruen are applied, which I am quite certain Hunter's defense WILL do, and ably, that part of the case will fold up like a cheap polyester suit. And then BATF will be forced to remove that question from the 4473.

Now, does this mean I support Hunter as a person? Nope. Don't be silly, He is one sick puppy and should surrender for treatment.

Does this mean I approve of the use of merryhootchie? Again, nope. Don't be silly again.

but FedGov have criminalised far too many things, all because they are on a wild tear to render as many folks as possible "unlawful possessors" of firearms. EVERY person they render "unlawful possessors of" is just one less Americal able to defend himself against crime.. and them.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

The only job more demanding than waking up to find out your POTUS every morning, is waking up to deny that POTUS didn't know he was POTUS when he woke up....every day.

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ItsMeAgain's avatar

Another difference is HB will be found not guilty.

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Fabes55's avatar

McCullough is one of my anti-COVID heroes…along with you, Jeff, of course!

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DrDoug's avatar

Beware, Jeff, and followers. This "discovery" plays right in to the hands of the fear mongers who are trying to convince you that there is indeed another pandemic on the way. There are already a lot of dead chickens out there whose only crime was having a positive pcr test from the coop's poop!

Not only is the virus manufactured, but so is the story of its scary lethality and transmissability that we will be hearing .

COVID was never a pandemic. Please read the work off Sasha Latypova and Denis Rancourt to understand that fully. It is critical that we all understand this, and not fall for the next scamdemic!

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banjocat's avatar

Thank you for saying this - so very important. To continue promoting "pandemic" and fake tests is supporting our own demise. People that understand they've been scammed by the long conVid but continue feeding the madness by taking these tests (includes all viral testing) makes no sense to me.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That's because you are actually logical.

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Gram's avatar

Yes! And read info from 4 Substack authors from prior post here today.

Jason Christoff has an educational YouTube channel and many podcasts: https://soundcloud.com/user-50904611/podcast-196-jason-christoff-how-to-sidestep-the-cabals-most-powerful-spell

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Politico Phil's avatar

This is exactly right as I explained here in regards to Dr. Bossche and Dr. Martin. COVID was never a pandemic - full stop.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Did you mean climademic?!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good one. Another psy-ops being perpetrated on us by our own military.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah replete with pretty chemtrails

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Tio Nico's avatar

and a goodly number of OTHER FedGov agencies, and bought/paid for "popular" PoohBah's Grandes sich as billy the Gates,

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Chris Kanon's avatar

It's simple:

how do we diagnose COVID? not by symptoms as there are no unique symptoms for COVID, we do it with a PCR test. So then how do we diagnose bird flu? same, with a PCR test.

Again?

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Gaye's avatar

Exactly! And reinforces that RNA can pandemic, it has already and will do it again. RNA cannot pandemic. Even GVB is wrong in his predictions. McCullough has recently proposed fighting mRNA problems with MORE mRNA! šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

mRNowAy!!!!

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JSR's avatar

He claimed they found ā€œbird fluā€ in a dolphin.. ..selling his ā€œcontagion emergency kit ā€œā€¦

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Nancy's avatar

The main red flags on him are that he sells these spreading virus stories as truth, and then profits from the fear. I believe Dr. Mike Yeadon is a true hero, who, by the way, never gets invited to testify before congress. So much theater for our consumption.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes, Yeadon is an honest man.

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Dean B's avatar

I see Yeadon's videos on "X" from time to time and always find him to be spot on with what he speaks of. Is there a way to follow him or is it just a few privy to his information that shares it?

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Fred Jewett's avatar

He now has a substack. You can find him at drmikeyeadon@substack.com. He posts infrequently. He is well worth reading.

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Jamison's avatar

Also, I think you can find some of his stuff on the substack, Exposing the Darkness.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I believe he has a Substack. I get posts from him from time to time. I'm not on TwiX anymore.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yeadon gets a 100% on my credibility meter. Everyone else gets a degree of skepticism, especially Dr. Bossche who I have been tempted to post about.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Geert triggers my spidey sense.

Yeadon is a rock star in my book.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly my reaction. I just haven't devoted the time to get into Geert's stuff to be able to post a critical comment. But I do get that "wolf in sheep's clothing" sense about him.

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Nancy Tait's avatar

I'm curious about why it is you feel this way about Geert Vanden Bossche. I haven't heard anything either from or about him since the time when the shots were first introduced. At that time he'd said that he felt that it was a very bad plan to vaccinate everyone at the height of the pandemic. He believed it would make things worse. Quite frankly I don't remember what his argument against the vaccines were, just that he was opposed to them. I think maybe he wasn't a fan of the MRNA design, possibly? I also recall that he was recognized as a world famous vaccine developer. I guess that would mean he's a "virologist", but in particular, a virologist specializing in developing vaccines. So, I'm wondering if it's his line of work that makes you uneasy? If it is, I can truly understand that. I myself saw Bossche's negative position on the COVID shots as just another good reason not to get any. After the "pandemic" I will never ever get any type of vaccination ever. All the best!

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Fla Mom's avatar

He has continued to provide *highly* technical explanations for why he fears that his theory of immune escape will come to pass, resulting in high rates of disease and death among the injected. I'd be interested to hear if P. Phil can understand half of what GVB says; I have a hard time, and I'm a retired physician.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Like Nancy, I saw Bossche's post way back at the beginning warning that vaccinating in the middle of a pandemic was a VERY bad idea. I instantly recognized that he was correct. Vaccines are to prevent a pandemic, not cure one. I'm neither a doctor nor a scientist yet even I knew you don't vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic (assuming it was a pandemic). I also knew enough history to recognize that the CDC had thrown out their LONG established procedures for dealing with a pandemic which is to isolate the infected and treat them for the infection while the rest of the population develops "herd immunity". They literally threw their own procedures out the window and adopted the CCP's policy of locking down the entire population. It was all patently ridiculous and incredulous! We had been sold out.

In his early posts, Bossche explained that if you vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic, you will force the wild virus to mutate into a much more lethal strain with dire consequences. What he called "immune escape". I shared this info with my son who has a doctorate in pharmacology and he agreed that this was very alarming. Based on this scenario, the eventual death rate would be horrendous.

Now understand, this was back in the day when we all thought we were dealing with an actual natural virus (even if GOF enhanced) and were in the middle of an actual pandemic. My son and I were very alarmed and I appreciated Dr. Bossche's expertise and warning. A few others like Dr. Yeadon were also issuing warnings. But the medical/scientific community as a whole was deaf and dumb and malevolent politics reigned.

Thanks to the work of people like Dr. David Martin, we subsequently learned that we were not dealing with a naturally occurring virus but rather a man-made, synthetic, chimeric "pathogen" based on a computer simulation of the corona virus that was REPLICATION DEFECTIVE and that the so-called pandemic was a military psy-ops that created the mass illusion of a pandemic. The pandemic did not exist. The infectious virus did not exist as the synthetic pathogen had to be manually deployed and could not spread on it's own. It was all psy-ops to drive the "herd" to accept their bio-weapon solution for "over population". IE, an extermination to drive humanity into trans-humanism. I could go on but I'll stop there.

Since then Bossche has continued to treat the subject as a naturally evolving virus that is producing an actual pandemic. Why? Is this because he is so vested in his prognosis or is he operating as "controlled opposition" to continue the illusion of a pandemic as cover for the actual program of democide? I can't read his mind so I can't say. But clearly, he should be smart enough to realize what is going on. So....

I have not devoted much time to delve into his posts yet but I have not seen any info where he is opposed to mRNA shots as such. I did read one of his posts a couple of weeks ago where he was still harping about immune escape and predicting a catastrophic outcome. I felt inclined to dig into his position, pick it apart and post a lengthy comment on it but I got distracted and never got to it. I may yet. But for now, this is my ill-informed understanding.

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Tio Nico's avatar

When I read that"they" were developing a new "vaccine" using mRNA tehnology, I had never heared of mRNA. So I did some searching and concluded "it can't work" because th mechanism they set up can NOT provude IMMUNITY to anything. Further, to reprogamme the human body to endlessly produce within that body the very part of the virus that is TOXIC seemed madness. Toss into the hopper the fact that there is NO OFF SWITCH for the re-programming. WHaaaaatttt?!?! My fifth grade biology lessons were enough to tell me "dat ain't a gonna work, boiz". Then I also considered the work of Watsno and Crick, well afer my fifth grade, and go furtner condemnation on the WooFlew SHots as bad stuff. Don't take it. no how no way never.

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Gaye's avatar

If you haven’t, see JJ Couey. https://stream.gigaohm.bio/w/58yEBpi9fBPFRVrMKHVY3x

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Tio Nico's avatar

link goes to some grumpy dood caterwauling about "Where is Grace's Dad"?

Outta there.

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Gaye's avatar

You have no idea because you have no patience.

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Politico Phil's avatar

See my following reply to Fla Mom.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Mike Yeadon was fortunate in making a lot of money from Pfizer before retiring. He can say whatever he wants, as he's not trying to make a living and he's well off.

Dr. McCullough's career has been cut off in his prime, for saying doctors should practice medicine, as he did to the Texas legislature very early on in Covid. He still has bills, as do all the physicians whose licenses and board certifications have been threatened and yanked, and now they all have legal bills as well, which are not small. Note that Jeff's rationale for the $500 annual support is to pay for *one hour* of legal work. Everyone who comments here makes money one way or another. I don't understand why people criticize people whose livelihoods have been cut off for wanting to, I dunno, keep their houses and buy groceries.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I agree. McCullough did come out early and continued to fight for the truth. We have to understand there is a level of ignorance here to recognize even with McCullough. We all know only so much. And someone as highly trained as McCullough has the additional challenge of overcoming everything he has been trained to accept, ie, to overcome the paradigms his training has conditioned him to accept as unassailable. The virus model is one such paradigm. Challenges to such well-established paradigms always come from outside the subject area of expertise because those that operate within the established paradigm cannot see the contradictions to those paradigms that are right in front of them. Call it confirmation bias. This is well explained in the academic work of Thomas Kuhn, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".

My guess is that McCullough is still operating under the assumption that the natural covid virus is real and that there really is/was a pandemic. But I have not seen anything to question his ethics or motivation.

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Jeff C's avatar

Two of my favorite commenters on here having a respectful and intelligent contrary discussion, without impugning each others motive, stating opinion as fact, or otherwise using bad faith tactics. You guys are great.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Excellent reference JSR! Thank you. This adds to my contention that McCullough is operating under false premises - intentionally or otherwise. This information is not a good look for McCullough....

"...The current rabbit hole down which I currently find myself began a week or so ago, with Peter McCullough’s rather shocking endorsement of siRNA to combat the mRNA injections that have been deployed around the world.

I found it stunning that a doctor so outspoken about the harms of mRNA, would nonchalantly suggest injecting some siRNA to negate the previously injected mRNA.

Considering how outspoken Dr. McCullough has been about the toxic nature of the lipid nanoparticles delivering mRNA, it is surprising that he didn’t mention on substack that this silent interfering RNA (siRNA) also gets delivered in a lipid nanoparticle (LNP)..."

"...Dr PM is a clinician, not a basic science researcher. His subspecialty is non-interventional cardiology with a master’s degree in public health. He appears to have no actual working knowledge of molecular biology, drug or biological product design/development or in the laboratory setting. The payments documented here would therefore appear to be for the purpose of marketing potential or new products in his capacity as a well-recognized public medical spokesperson.

...If pathological viruses don’t exist (which seems increasingly likely), there can’t be any bird flu. In the unlikely circumstance that bird flu actually exists but can’t be diagnosed with PCR tests (PCR was proven to be an unreliable diagnostic test for CV19), bird flu can’t be diagnosed reliably. If that’s true, there is no medical indication for SiRNA’s or an mRNA ā€œvaccineā€ for this alleged disease. The fundamental underlying assumptions upon which this new treatment is based, are either extremely doubtful or false. Anyone making such claims is at the least, highly suspect.

Moreover, when you see words/phrases like ā€œseem effective", realize you are being subjected to propaganda since they are not valid medical or scientific terms..."

https://open.substack.com/pub/conspiracysarah/p/deep-dive-lipid-nanoparticle-sirna

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Gram's avatar

Dawn Lester, co-author of What Really Makes You Ill has a worthwhile Substack.

https://substack.com/@dawnlester

As does Dr Toby Rogers, Utobian. https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/piping-hot-truth-biscuits-june-3

And Christine Massey, activist extraordinaire sending FOIAs for proof of viruses : https://substack.com/home/post/p-144956539

Dr Sam Bailey is a gem - https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/is-immunity-a-scientific-concept

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Politico Phil's avatar

I would LOVE to see any proof of viruses. This scam is deep.

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JSR's avatar

I am still completely confused about why my family keeps getting ā€œcoldsā€ and even now in freaking June! We are not jabbed, we live mostly outdoors, in the sun and ocean on an island. Seriously WTF is happening… 5g, the vaxxed, the chem trails.. I get it but I’m so exhausted by it and it’s so disturbing and disheartening

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banjocat's avatar

Yeadon is authentic. McCullough, perhaps unintentionally, leads people down the wrong path. Consumption indeed - "A progressive wasting away of the body". The job of congress seems to be only to consume the body/people until nothing is left.

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I don’t know that it’s a wrong path. In deference to Mike Yeadon, I am not šŸ’Æ % convinced that there was no COVID 19 virus, if that is what he is saying. I think that there was/is a poorly weaponized COVID Virus (remember we have known about both human and animal COVID Viruses for decades) developed illegally in NC by Drs Barik/Dazick whomever(can’t keep the criminal players straight w/o a scorecard) & share (again illegally) with ourā€˜friends’, or should I say Fauci’s friends (and our enemies (proving again, if any more proof was needed, that HE is our enemy— and if Obama can drone a US citizen w/o legal preliminaries, surely lil’ Anthony is a prime candidate for an encore performance). COVID was so poorly weaponized that it required nuclear grade medical and ethical & public health & coding/billing malpractice and MSM psyOps to create the appearance of a Plandemic with a case fatality rate no different than a bad flu year (which is what Mike Yeadon, PhD is really saying).*

All that to say that there is good evidence that a cocktail of cheap, safe repurposed medicines and vitamins are effective and safe for early treatment and prevention of COVID and other single stranded RNA viruses, including influenza; and since half or more of the population have been pre-bunked into being terrified of the next wave of viral infections, I don’t think that it is unethical (& actually justifiable) to develop & market a basket of said medicines. After all, we have been doing this as a culture for decades with useless OTC cold and flu meds without anyone batting an eye.

If you think w/ Mike Yeadon that this COVID was all a mass formation psychosis, then you can keep your money and just stay sick a little longer, if MY was wrong. Either way, life goes on as normally as possible after the Plandemic operation.

*And all that world wide destruction mortality, suffering and dislocation just to block the re-election of Orange Man — that is some weapons grade anti-orange racism!

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... isn't it though. Well put. As you can see from my other comments in this string, we are pretty much on the same page. My only difference is that I think they developed exactly what they wanted in a synthetic pathogen that they could use to cover their culpability for their plandemic democide.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I didn’t touch on that (too many rabbit trails in the post already),though I wouldn’t put it past them .

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Al X G's avatar

Bird flu going through gain of (flight) function?

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Gram's avatar

You can't gain function on a non-existent virus.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It wouldn't matter if there was a virus or not.

They could've accomplished the same thing either way.

You're better off making that argument imo.

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Ellen's avatar

They've found it in other mammals too, because they're trying to. But I agree selling those kits gives me pause.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

šŸŽÆ

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Gram's avatar

But he is still promoting germ theory. Viruses do not exist. Period.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Confirmation bias.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

I have asked this question for years now and no one can answer it: what is the difference between ā€œgain of function researchā€ and ā€œweaponizationā€? GOF is just a way to hide what scientists are really doing. No, you don’t ā€œneedā€ to make viruses more transmissible and virulent to study them. Leave well enough alone you psychopaths.

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Truthseeker's avatar

There’s data suggesting Lyme Disease was a lab leak too… so it’s not the first time … and Fort Detrick also had problems, that’s why it was closed down.

This has been going for a long time. Covid was just the largest scale.

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LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

Most of us in the Lyme community fully believe it is a bio weapon. The more factual data you review on it, thr more obvious it becomes. It's a nefarious disease.

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Ellen's avatar

I've posted this before but Kris Newby's book Bitten: The Secret History of Lyme Disease and Bioweapons is worth reading even if you're NOT affected by lyme. Just to fully comprehend the evil of our military / government.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

🧐

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Fred Jewett's avatar

One lady who lives close to Fort Detrick posted that a lot of locals developed diseases in her community a few years ago. She suspects the biolab as the source.

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Nicole Rivas weaver's avatar

I've heard that too

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Patrish's avatar

From Lyme CT! The lab there leaked it!

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Fla Mom's avatar

No, from Plum Island, not far away.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

Two research scientists at the U. of Alberta in Canada, received grants to see if they could develop smallpox in their lab. They were successful, so now a Canadian pHarmaceutical company is developing a vaccine for it. Gee, what could go wrong!

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Politico Phil's avatar

So why would they devote the investment required to develop a "vaccine" for something that does not exist except as a lab experiment? Answer: Because they planned to release their creation to begin with! This is an ADMISSION of guilt to conspire to attack the Canadian people.

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OnTheJump's avatar

The story is all too familiar - create the cure, fine-tune a wonderfully infectious (and frightening) disease, let 'r loose ..... and make your fortune/devastate the world.

Whatever. It's a "pick 'em".

Money or power, power AND money....any which way you look at it - we, da people, lose.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

The Canadian government even funded the research.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

This is a prime example of SCIENCE GONE ROGUE!! It is NO LONGER 'science'--it is TERRORISM via "government".

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

šŸ’Æ

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Gram's avatar

Mind Control Expert on Weaponized Psychology & Propaganda in Covid Operations in Canada -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qaLn1Zhg5c

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Ro Dann's avatar

What is GOF if viruses don’t exist

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Bioweapons created by GOF do exist.

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Gram's avatar

Agree bioweapons exist, but not from GOF. From poisons, toxins, fear, stress, vaccines.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The effort seems to be pointing toward the creation of synthetic (artifical) life forms that are controllable and programmable.

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Gram's avatar

Humans aren't controllable and programmable enough???

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Gram's avatar

You cannot 'gain' something from nothing! Viruses DO NOT exist! It's all a psyop to continue the virus lie.

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Hoffmeister's avatar

A quick directed note of inquiry to your fed reps with response required checked - that let's them know we are aware - even if it's only a lowly staff member who reads it and provides a canned response - numbers count! Enuf inquiries makes them react!

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JT's avatar

"Senator X appreciates your input and will take your comments and concerns into consideration."

Got a bunch of those lining my circular file!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

But...since your inquiry did not contain a five figure ( or more) contribution...we will look into your inquiry soon.

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WP William's avatar

Benevolent Bioweapon production...you never know the benign outcomes that may come out of it too

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

They are the same.

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Sam's avatar

The difference between the 2 phrasings is a way for America to break the biological weapons treaty.

Sasha recently covered this topic.

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Gram's avatar

You can't "gain" anything from nothing! There is no such thing as a virus! It is all a giant mind-f***! We are being poisoned -- by just about everything.

J Christoff - One Nation Under Mind Control - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhJlEIoZP_4

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Gabriella's avatar

This is great! Along with the link within the description of video to Jason Christoff’s testimony in the European Parliament June 2023.

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Kim's avatar

šŸ‘

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JT's avatar

Are we talking about Prometheus...or Pandora?

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I read somewhere, might have been in C&C that the Government of our country (USA) is now nothing more than terrorists running amuck. Every day, this gets clearer and clearer. It is so mind blowing. You would think by now, I would have no mind at all, it's been blown to hell and back.

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Therefore, beloved, since you are looking for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, and consider the patience of our Lord as salvation[.]

— 2 Peter 3:14-15a LSB

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CStone's avatar

His Word, pouring anointing oil on my head. Every day. Cleansing my palette.

Thank you.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Only Christ in us can cleanse. The rest is just using a dirty mop.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Mzlizzi….ā˜•ļøšŸ˜‚šŸ˜œā€¦ hair sniffing got me too

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

If people want to know who Micheal Anderson is, maybe they should assign the crack team of investigators who looked into the person(s) who left cocaine in the White House.....

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Free Florida Female's avatar

Or the team searching for the individual who leaked the Supreme Court Dobbs decision.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That, too!

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Lisa's avatar

Did they ever pin down who blew up the Nordstream pipeline?

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Mr Putin suggests it was Tucker CarlsonšŸ˜‰

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S.P.H.'s avatar

USN, P-8

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Janet's avatar

šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ˜€šŸ˜€

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Fla Mom's avatar

The pipe bombs on J6.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yeah, that’s the ticket!

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Good morning šŸŒž ā˜•ļø . Please read Kevin McKernan et al … double stranded mRNA … even more evil in those genetic jabs . AND the ACOG still recommends them to pregnant women. God help us .šŸ™

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And the VA is still offering the covid DeathVax to veterans with an "additional dose" for veterans 65 years and older.

It would be wonderful if the both of us could stop posting these comments.

If...only...sanity could rule again.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Never stop KJ . They have maimed and killed .

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I will continue to tag team you 😢

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thank you!

I will not let those murderers hide.

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BBS's avatar

All those studies. All those conclusions. And yet no one accountable for the millions of deaths and life altering injuries . Those people deserve your well-placed and well-worded comments. Never stop, KJ.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I was even more horrified about the active duty being forced to take the covid DeathVax. More than 8,000 active duty were forced out because of their refusal. Those folks were not malcontents or malingerers. They were clear thinking individuals who had concerns about an experimental mRNA gene therapy full of lipid nanonparticles, spike proteins, polyethylene glycol, and other toxic substances.

To further demoralize the military, religious exemptions were denied.

The military is probably the healthiest population around.

Covid was never a threat to them.

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Peregrine's avatar

Those forced out, while disheartening, were saved from a shortened lifespan and possibly an early death.

Or a life of sickness.

So, an upside.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, especially since the VA is denying all disability claims to those hurt by the covid DeathVax.

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L  Young's avatar

Anybody in the military that didn’t take the vax (Imagine the pressure to conform) is definately not a sheep. Apparently the military wants to encourage ā€˜Sheep Think’.

It’s also being systematically emasculated.

Consider the impact on all the services of having a man in a dress with heels and lipstick and an admiral’s uniform be the figure head of the Navy.

It would be interesting to look at what recruitment numbers did after his apointment.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The US military has gone to shit with those traitors in the Pentagon.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

So did medicine KJ

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, it has...I will never trust the medical community again.

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L  Young's avatar

Are they traitors or are they mentally ill narcissist?

For a man to show up to work each day, pretending to be a woman with women’s clothing and accessories while supposedly running an organization that was created for the express purpose of shredding the bodies and equipment of our enemies using explosives is a grotesque farce.

I’m not saying a woman can’t run the Navy, not at all.

Remember when Roosevelt wouldn’t allow himself to be photographed in a wheelchair because it might make the Axis nations think that America was weak? What do we gain as a nation by parading our mental patients, our deviants and our Cuckoo birds in front of the entire world?

Do we do it so that the above mentioned can get a participation trophy?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Excellent comment.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think the plan is to fill our military with illegal aliens.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I agree, this way, they will pick off Americans, without guilt.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Matt Bracken (who wrote about that very thing, years ago) and Michael Yon agree with you.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

L.Y. you hit it right on the mark. The insanity about "am I male or female" is INSANITY. If they can emasculate the military, easier to conquer the people.

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Truth 101's avatar

College students - also a very healthy group and not at risk - were coerced into getting the covid shots. As much as a college education is many times maligned these days we do need engineers, healthcare workers (the critical thinking kind,) scientists etc.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Follow the $$$ on how much those colleges and universities received from the Biden regime to push the covid DeathVax.

Even Newsmax, a supposedly conservative news outlet, received $$$ and forced their employees to get the covid DeathVax.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

And hospitals and clinics with employed physicians.

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Peace's avatar

Some colleges are still coercing into getting the jabs.

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😔😢🤬

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Fred's avatar

Did I hear that the military wanted to reinstate them, but our Congress refused to allow? IDK, but read that somewhere (probably C&C, since it’s my go-to news source! 😁) If so, shameful!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I remember seeing a letter from the Army posted on X asking the troops to come back.

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Fred's avatar

Or purposeful? Can’t allow thinking…

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Especially from the patriots.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

They are patriots 😘

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Dawn B's avatar

The enlistment is way down so now they want them back maybe... They were calling me last year for my 18 year old to enlist and I gave them an earful in a nice way.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No way would I encourage anyone to join today's woke and weak military.

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šŸŽÆ

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Dawn B's avatar

They have been using them as guinea pigs for over 100 years.

Remember the Spanish Flu that wasn't a flu or Spanish?

It is common knowledge now but they haven't changed the history books to correct it.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/QTen5IN5dsy7/

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

KJ, this was also about getting rid of our military, so that the deranged/confused people could become even more powerful. If you kick out sanity, delusion grows.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, nothing like having a bunch of gender confused people in the US military today.

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RU's avatar

Give it time. Someone will be held accountable. We can all bet it won't be those ultimately responsible. Not sure that has ever happened in human history. But, some folks like Fauci will be tossed under the bus. I did notice his beagle story is back in the mainstream, this time proven true.

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I hope you are right. I admit I am losing hope especially given big pharma is still getting away with pushing a new Covid jab.

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RU's avatar

I think it comes down to expectations. I don't expect anyone to pay any full price, but I do suspect there will be some useful idiots tossed into the legal system. Rx is now MiC, so I don't expect it will hurt them too much, TBH. Re-orgs will take place, new CEOs will be instated with a "mandate to improve quality" or something like that, and it will go on until the empire crashes.

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Fauci spearheaded the AIDS killer treatments and experimented on NY orphans years ago torturing and killing them too. He got promoted, not procecuted.

If anyone is held accountable for gov/military crimes, they are a scapegoat to protect the heads of snakes.

God will judge and punish them.

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Peter GL's avatar

Yeah, maybe when find out what really happened to JFK they will hold Fauci et al accountable. I won't be holding my breath

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Dr Linda's avatar

And will continue to do so

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Peregrine's avatar

Well, the motivation of the VA might be culling the oldsters to make their budget go further.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"giving veterans one more chance to die for their country"

If they couldn't kill us with Agent Orange, toxic anthrax vaccines, Gulf War Syndrome, toxic water at Camp Lejeune, exposure to burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan...they will finally finish off the job with the covid DeathVax.

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The Culling....of the old, the young, the infirm, the disabled, the abled, basically the majority of the useless eaters that breathe air is their plan. See Georgia Guidestones for more details.

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It's their version of doctor assisted suicide. Cheaper than medical care. The newest way to balance the books.

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Highly sus that they are pushing additional doses on the older ones.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"giving veterans one more chance to die for their country"

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Where is Gov DeSantis? Why is not on the forefront protecting our vets by banning the bio-weapon in FL?????????????????????????

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

His inaction tells me all I need to know about him.

He is a coward.

Probably enlisting a focus group to give him a feel on how to proceed.

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I'm a Florida resident. I voted for DeSantis. He does some admirable things and he does some things that I don't consider admirable. He did get Lapado as Surgeon General, so that was good. But early in the pandemic, before Lapado, I emailed DeSantis and requested that he look into supporting ivermectin. I got no response whatsoever, other than a generic one. The gist of the response was something to the effect of, "The governor is very busy and he'll get back to you on this sometime." That was it. DeSantis is a politician. I find politicians hard to admire. Politics is a game I could never wrap my head around.

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If the pandemic has done anything for me, it has elevated my suspicions and skepticism to appropriate levels about anyone who DESIRES public office, much less achieves it.

Government must shrink, and I don't see it happening any time soon, because how do we shrink it? Government must do it to itself. Thats like trying to fix a broken hammer using the only tool you have, which is the broken hammer.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I figure all those lazy federal government workers who are still working from home because of covid or such nonsense...well, guess what, we don't need them.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"he could have been a contender"

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sweettooth's avatar

Do they just offer it, or is it mandated for them to get treatment. Because I actually thought they offered it still to most of the population, regardless of them being veterans.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The veterans are offered the shot. It was not mandated to get treatment.

However, many veterans were under the impression they could lose their benefits if they refused.

The VA employees were mandated to get the death shot...also, the contractors that work for the VA were also forced.

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My hairdresser, 33yrs old, is a Navy vet. She got one Pfizer, (required to return to work). Her husband is also a Navy vet, neither of them received ANY money from the govt during Covid. One vax nearly killed her. They were trying for another baby at the time. Yes, her VA Ob-Gyn said the vax was safe.... She was with her husband when she passed out backing out of a parking space. He started CPR and the paramedics in the ambulance took over. She was out cold... came to in the ICU at the VA hospital. She was told, "no one has ever survived that kind of event." It has been 10 months since the initial episode... She had a defibrillator installed back in September and now a pacemaker installed in November. She's been given 5 different diagnosis' since her initial event. Just saw her a month ago after her fourth procedure. She's back at work and no longer has a "diagnosis." They told her, "we don't know what is wrong with your heart, all we know is, it's something..." She's waiting on a referral to see a heart specialist outside the VA... she's hoping for someone over 60.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Oh my goodness...what a horror story.

Any doctor who tells a woman the covid shot is safe learned nothing from Thalidomide and DES.

A doctor will tell a pregnant woman not to drink, smoke, or eat certain foods, but taking an experimental mRNA shot full of toxins into the body is OK.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I know a mother in her 30s with heart failure and an implanted defibrillator. They got the injections to take the kids on a cruise. She regrets it, needless to say.

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sweettooth's avatar

So damaging.

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šŸ™šŸ„ŗ

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, I still see and hear veterans asking for the covid shot and the RSV shot.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

… and healthcare professionals beg for it too

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Well...they might be long for this earth.

I read Dr. Makis and Mark Crispen Miller's Substack...and the illnesses and deaths are horrifying.

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A good friend is waiting to hear results from a PET scan after cancer markers showed in her blood. After her second shot in 2021 she was hit with autoimmune hepatitis— one of the 1200+side effects list given to FDA by Pfizer. šŸ™šŸ»šŸ™šŸ»

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Prayers for her.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

It is the disgraceful disgusting gift that keeps giving .

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

One of the cancer surgeons, just finished fellowship,jabbed , is blind now.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Oh geez...I was seeing reports of loss of vision caused by the covid shots...blood clots in the retina.

Warning from May 1, 2021. (Everybody, look at that date again - 3 years ago!)

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/19916-eye-disorders-including-blindness-following-covid-vaccine-reported-in-europe/

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Every 4 months they want to jab you . I sat on the phone for a pharmacist to come to the phone and the message was for a Covid shot every 4 months . WTF . 🤬

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Asking?!??

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I suspect that some veterans were afraid of losing their benefits if they did not comply. The pressure on us was huge. And maybe he encountered some mini-Mengele VA employee who implied/inferred a loss of health benefits for refusal to take the covid DeathVax.

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Some veterans have no choice but to go to the VA. They might have lost their job along with any health care benefits. And many of the injuries and illnesses we have were incurred while on active duty. At least the VA has some clue about treatment options, as opposed to a medical provider who has no clue about Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, and exposure to burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I prefer to stay and fight. It would be easy to walk away, but that would not fix any of the problems that exist. I have a big mouth and do not hesitate to complain. Always make sure there is a paper trail by the way of emails or secure messaging which will end up in my electronic medical record - which a a good thing.

One thing we do like about being at the VA is the camaraderie we feel by seeing other veterans. There is an almost instant connection because we were all in the same boat while in the military. Some very good days, lots of bad days, and some really miserable days. So we each have a common denominator of misery - boot camp, deployments, and many have combat experience.

The mitigation efforts the VA had during covid killed all conversations. Masking, Plexiglas up between the chairs, and not being allowed to sit next to each other to have a simple conversation was intentional to further demoralize Americans.

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Thank you for your service, Kathleen. Thank you for your sacrifices also. šŸ’“

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for the kind words.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Waiting for the Deep State to cut my internet to keep me quiet.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I pray not KJ , you opened my eyes to Vets , thank u. šŸ™

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, at least we are allowed to sit next to each other again.

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Susan Seas's avatar

My retired hubby does not go to the VA, by choice. Fortunately we did have that choice and that was before the C . Considering the VA was the first place to raise concerns about the vaxx it is an absolute disgrace they still push it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Let me elaborate on my comment. There was a VA employee, Fran Cunningham, who emailed the CDC because VA safety signals were triggered 6 months after the shot roll out for myocarditis after the 1st Pfizer shot.

The VA remained silent.

Never warned veterans or VA employees.

The only way we know this is because The Epoch Times did FOIAs to the CDC.

So...murderous behavior by remaining silent.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I don't remember hearing/reading that the VA raised concerns about the covid DeathVax.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Yes, that what I was referring too. The noticed safety signals that was ignored by the VA and CDC. But originated at the VA. One person at VA not the VA, I should have said. It’s literally disgusting, going after the elderly and the Vets 😔

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If it wasn't for The Epoch Times and their FOIAs we would have never known. The original article in The Epoch Times even had a screen shot of VA employee Fran Cunningham's original email to the CDC. The subsequent emails between CDC employees were all redacted.

But, it was only the alternative media that reported the safety signals being triggered. I mentioned it to one of my VA providers and her eyes started to glaze over. Did not want to listen at all.

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Curtis's avatar

From the first day at boot camp recruits are conditioned to unquestionably obey every order. I got out in 2004, but would've probably lined up for the jamb without question. 🫤

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Jpeach's avatar

I’m just a small business guy but, it seems like the IG4 conversion, from multiple mRNA injections, is the predicate for VAIDS and all the diseases that cause mortality.

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RunningLogic's avatar

American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ahh, thank you.

My

First thought was ā€œadvanced combat optical gunsightā€

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RunningLogic's avatar

I figured šŸ˜› And you’re welcome. Makes more sense in this context doesn’t it 😁

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I can’t believe the acog (snicker) wouldn’t realize ā€œhey, these shots are messing up women we are supposed to help..maybe we should stop..ā€

SCHWACK

give the shots out at all times!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m guessing you’re being facetious but I can totally believe they don’t realize or don’t care that the shots are harmful. There are plenty of other interventions they promote as safe and act as if those interventions are problem free, when that is far from true (epidurals, c sections, pitocin, etc.).

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

At some point they have to look at what’s going on and think hey, something’s not right.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It may take them a decade or two šŸ˜‘ When research showed episiotomies do more harm than good, many doctors continued doing them routinely for years after that, regardless.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

By then it will be too late for a lot of women, unfortunately.

That's the saddest part.

The truth always comes out in the end..but dangit it doesn't need to take 10-20 years. A lot of people will be irreparably hurt.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well yeah. That’s why some of us are so angry. These supposed ā€œexpertsā€ are perpetuating the lies and the consequences of those lies šŸ˜•

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ā€œThrough the Lord’s mercies we are not consumed, Because His compassions fail not. They are new every morning; Great is Your faithfulness. ā€œThe Lord is my portion,ā€ says my soul, ā€œTherefore I hope in Him!ā€ The Lord is good to those who wait for Him, To the soul who seeks Him.ā€

‭‭Lamentations‬ ‭3‬:‭22‬-‭25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/lam.3.22-25.NKJV

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CStone's avatar

This Scripture always brings tears to my eyes. I do not even begin to understand His mercy.

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Cabogirl's avatar

What the Russians should do is send thousands of eligible Russian men into Ukraine with flowers and chocolates for the Ukrainian women who now are massively single from the meat grinder military that Zelenskyy has reigned on the country. That’ll win the war peacefully and the war will end like a good love story book.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Sounds like a Hallmark movie...

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🌱NardšŸ™'s avatar

I will happily donate to that cause. And take pictures.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

šŸ’ƒšŸ’šŸ’šŸ’

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The Bible should be taught at home, not in public schools, unless of course we want atheists, Muslims and other people hostile to the Lord Jesus teaching the Bible. And why not teach the Koran?

Pathetic politicians are at it again.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

It's a plank in their platform, not a policy. It would never pass constitutional muster if they attempted to make it law, and they know it. It is included as, primarily, messaging; it helps get out the vote.

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RU's avatar

It's pushing the Overton window to the right. That's the goal. And it's a good strategy. As we can see from comments here, conservatives are not used to this sort of actual fighting and standing for something.

I actually don't remember it ever happening. Usually, our side starts with the status quo somewhere in the middle-left ("we want to keep it as it is!") and then "negotiates" their way to a far-left "compromise" that results in banning individuals from praying or displaying an American flag in a public school, and 9 month and beyond "abortions."

They are learning from Trump. Take a currently "extreme" position and work from there. If they even engage you in the negotiation, you've already gained ground from the status quo.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Here is a simple example of Republican bipartisan negotiating:

Dems: give me $10.

Republicans: no.

Dems: ok, make it $7

Republicans: deal!

And Republicans think they made $3 on this deal...

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RU's avatar

LOL. True. It's triggered a lot of people on the conservative side, but all Trump - and those who followed his lead, like Rufo - are doing is reversing this situation. Though in a way, I guess it makes sense. Conservatives are about conserving. Therefore a change to the status quo is "bad," even when that change is actually helping.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

What does "conserving" mean? In political terms, it means minimizing power in the hands of federal government officials and "conserving" it for the people and the states. In economic terms it means exercising fiduciary responsibility and prudence: conserving resources. In social terms, it means, to use a cliche, "live and let live": conserving relationships between people.

In a handful of words it means: no more government than absolutely necessary.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ Deal! Hahahaha

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Angus McPherson's avatar

I actually don't think it is a good strategy, but I do understand your point. I hate starting with a compromised position. My problem is that it is deeply unserious. "Congress shall make no law" is sufficiently proscriptive to know this would be overturned 9-0 by the current SCOTUS if it ever made it that far. Put that in the platform, and I believe that you are equally unserious about other planks in the platform.

I don't care what the left makes of it. They will hate if we said "Allow all humans to exchange oxygen for carbon dioxide" and denounce those who propose it as racists, or "plant phobic" or something. We need adults in the room. We live in a pluralistic society. We always have done. And the framers understood that state run religious ANYTHING leads to tyranny.

Here's a better plank that doesn't start in the center. Privatize schools and provide vouchers. Each student attending their selected school is a free market vote for that school, its quality, etc. Don't worry about standards, that will self level after an initial period of it being the wild west. That would accomplish what the TX GOP platform plank is aiming for, but in a broadly positive and culture changing way.

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Politico Phil's avatar

First... The State will never give up control of the youth. Short of a collapse of the USG, they will never give up control of education.

Second... Vouchers are just another form of control. Funding is control. Rather, eliminate all individual property taxes. That would be a big relief to all families and would defund state education. Privatize all education. Further incentivize families to have children by eliminating 20% of their income from income taxes for each child they have. Sounds fair to me but of course that will never happen.

As for the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." simply prohibits the Federal Gov't from "establishing" a State sanctioned church. American churches are to be free from Fed Gov't regulation: no law respecting any establishment of religion. This was something the founders were very familiar with in Britain where only one church was allowed to exist. In fact, the early Congress budgeted money for the printing and distribution of Bibles for the American people.

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IMO, it's all about narrative and what is deemed "acceptable" discourse. So, I think any way we push the window open is a good thing, and ultimately a good strategy. No, this is not going to be approved by SCOTUS. That doesn't matter. That same issue has certainly not stopped the left's "long march." It's considered a minor obstacle b/c they know it's a battle for narrative control and what society deems "acceptable" beliefs, which then leads to policy. Time to go on offense.

Our question should be: what's the furthest "right" position we can seed into society, to set the right boundary of the window as far right as possible? (But also, because we live in a pluralist society, the "extreme" voices on the right also need to be heard and considered. They've been silenced my entire life.) We certainly hear enough from those on the left, which is why our window currently extends from center-left (big gov't and high taxes) to far-left (institutionalized anti-white racism and calls for "socialized" everything).

As for serious or not - that is within the minds of those putting it forward. I suspect they are serious. (As it turned out the leftists chanting "defund the police" were actually serious.) I know us attacking them from our own side doesn't help move society's mental model rightward.

School choice is a good example of what I'm trying (poorly) to say: we've been trying for decades to get choice and vouchers, but it hasn't worked. Why? IMO, because there was nothing to the right of it being offered. So, it has been taken as the "right-most" starting point - the view of the "right wingers" - which means any society-wide negotiation by definition moves to the left from that position. That is why it's gained little-to-no traction despite 60+ years of costly, abject failure of the public school system.

The way I see it, societal level arguments aren't won with reason and logic and seriousness. People are emotional and moral animals, not rational animals. So, we have to make bold, sometimes ridiculous claims - or at least support the right to be heard for those who do - in order to shake up the status quo. We need the people furthest to the right to have a voice or we will always be arguing from the center, at best. Then, negotiate to the solution we actually want.

Final example: 8 years ago Trump said "close the border and build a wall," and people gasped in horror. The avg person said things like: we're not China or Berlin! That's racist! We should have an open border and offer asylum! And so on. He opened the window to an "extreme" view. His opposition overreacted to that. Now, 8 years later, 73% of the country wants the border closed.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I love your comments, RU, and I agree with virtually everything you say, but thanks to the nutty leftists and their trans ideology, and also to Grandma Garland and his Stasi calling angry parents attending school board meetings domestic terrorists, the school choice movement is doing much better these days. Imho far too few families take advantage of the possibilities provided by laws such as Florida's and other states', but I do think Covid helped open people's minds to the notion of other modes of schooling; one of its many silver linings, for those not killed or maimed in the interim.

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RU's avatar

It's a good point, and you know I always appreciate your views! I guess that I would read that as some parents voicing an "extreme" and "unacceptable" view, the Establishment PTB overreacting and freaking out, resulting in a societal move to the "right." (Similar to the dynamic with Trump and the border.)

So, in a way, it was those emotional and sort of Quixotic actions that led to some traction finally being gained, not rational policy / economics arguments that defined past efforts to push choice. They forced the window open with an emotional appeal. I think having someone to the right of them can only help them, even if only as the new "unacceptable" position.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Yes; it was "it's gained little-to-no traction despite 60+ years of costly, abject failure of the public school system" to which I was responding. It hadn't, I agree; but now it has. I have often thought that MLK Jr's, positions were more acceptable to people because there was a Malcolm X (though his views changed not long before his untimely death).

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Fred's avatar

But promoting unconstitutional stances will also backfire, much like the zero provisions for abortions (and I acknowledge, not a fair comparison).

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Neil Kellen's avatar

time will tell...

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Oh Susanna's avatar

I'm a Christian, and I agree with you. Although I think the Bible can and should be taught as an important religious text and foundation of Western civilization, nothing more than that unless it's a private Christian school. The provision for trying to make it impossible for Democrats to be elected seems pretty sus too. I guess election fixing is only bad if the other side does it.

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Fla Mom's avatar

The 'majority of counties' idea is simply an extension of our Electoral College at the national level, ensuring that the big city in a state doesn't so dominate elections that the rest of the state isn't actually represented, as the Electoral College does for big states vs. smaller ones.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Then that implies teaching other religious books and history...which would be great only...they are... But without Bible, so they aren't.

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Politico Phil's avatar

There is no answer for this. EVERY society/culture is based on a commonly-held faith, a set of presuppositions that cannot be proven that inform all of life. In other words, a religion. A belief that disavows all religions is itself a religion. Humanism is the most prominent example. It disavows a "God" yet it is still a religion based on a set of presuppositions. Instead of a "God", humanism sets up "Man" as the arbiter of all "Truth", ie, Man is "God".

America was founded as a Christian culture whose faith was informed by the Bible and was explicitly the presuppositional basis for the Declaration of Independence. Early Congressional actions budgeted money for the printing and dissemination of the Bible.

America became a base of support for Christian missions to the rest of the world. A society that does not have a common faith in a "religion" descends into chaos and conflict. Today, the Marxists who have taken control of the USG have openly declared Christianity to be the enemy and have openly characterized Christians as terrorists.

The belief system that informed the creation of early American society and sustained the development of our culture has now been marginalized in society as an abhorrent and subversive faith. Christianity is now being explicitly and violently purged from American society and replaced with a hedonistic and relativistic humanism that has no absolute standard of morality and justice. The embodiment of this faith is the State. For them, the Ten Laws do not exist. Chaos is ensuing with the mass importation of tens of millions of immigrants who have no connection to the Christian morality that informed the building of American society. Conflict will be the inevitable result and indeed, it is at our door.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

They war against a God they say cannot exist. They run when no one is chasing them. šŸ¤£šŸ˜‘ They fight against a non existing enemy... but they KNOW.

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Nancy Tait's avatar

This is a well-stated, logical, thought-provoking comment. Thank you! ā£

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Oh Susanna's avatar

Sorry but I don't understand this comment? Wondering if maybe there's a typo or two in there.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I think RJ is saying then they would have to tech other ā€œreligiousā€ books also if they taught the Bible. Better to be none than adding all the others.

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RU's avatar

Except that the other books have no historical relevance to the history of the US and its development. Only the Bible does.

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AngelaK's avatar

It should be taught in that context, absolutely.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Knowing truth is essential to recognizing a lie.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I'm sorry you can't read my mind. I realize my swype often doesn't match my thoughts, or does it? 😜 Hence my name "Rambler"

Tried to fix. Thanks for your interest. 😁

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Politico Phil's avatar

That's not the problem. The problem is public education, State funded and controlled education, should not exist. State education is simply the means for the State to indoctrinate young minds with the Statist philosophy the State wants. That is the problem. By it's very nature, "education" is presuppositionally religious.

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RU's avatar

And it's become a fund-raising and vote-buying mechanism for the political party in the US (D) that wants to make the state larger and more powerful. It's become that at the expense of the kids it's supposed to be educating. Abolish public education.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen.

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Nancy Tait's avatar

Wow! You are very good at creating a strong, logical argument. Maybe you should be writing a regular news letter, or maybe you already do. Anyway, thank you again! 😊

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Politico Phil's avatar

What a thought. I don't know how Jeff does what he does in the limited amount of time he has. Truly amazing.

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Nancy Tait's avatar

Yes, but you are exceptionally articulate and as I said, logical! If you had a Substack page I'd be reading it. 😊

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Angus McPherson's avatar

Right. Time to privatize education.

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Free Florida Female's avatar

It doesn’t need to be ā€œtaught.ā€ It needs to be read. In elementary school in the 50’s, we started each day with the Pledge of Allegiance and a Bible verse.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

And those ppl sent their children even after liberals sued against it.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah I find the unconstitutional aspect of that pretty appalling. What part of no state religion did these pukes not get. Morals, you can teach, without bringing in your savior. At least in public schools. I’m not anti Christian mind you, but whose god is best comes to mind. How many wars fought and humans dead over that shit.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

True enough. But also don't forget that enormous amount of good that has been done and lives that have been saved because of "that shit".

On balance, Christianity has been a massive benefit for humanity.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m not denigrating Christianity. I’m a born Christian, non practicing. My point being there was reason that our founders,who were Christian, and based out government on Christianity, also made sure to mention the whole no state approved religion. Meaning to me, y’all can pray to a head of lettuce. But in public schools, because we have those now,unfortunately, if the state mandates curriculum, then religion better not be part of it. At least not mandated. I took bible lit in high school, public, it was an elective. But it wasn’t required. Because the muzzies will be right there, in two seconds, saying you better teach the Quran too. And those two religions are only 180 polar opposites. But morality? Yeah, you might bring back civics, morality, citizenship in schools.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Not to make too fine but nevertheless important point, the Constitution does not say "no state approved religion". As I commented above: 'As for the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." simply prohibits the Federal Gov't from "establishing" a State sanctioned church. American churches are to be free from Fed Gov't regulation: no law respecting any establishment of religion. This was something the founders were very familiar with in Britain where only one church was allowed to exist. In fact, the early Congress budgeted money for the printing and distribution of Bibles for the American people.'

Congress did in fact promote Christianity in civil society. Now we are in the unfortunate position where our own Gov't is promoting Marxism and hedonism in civil society, which is in itself a religion.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

That’s a rather fine point. As in needle sharp, Phil.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Yours is a good argument for getting rid of government schools, to toss that failed experiment, and go back to the way we were in our first many decades of national life.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

One way to help bring morality back is to teach about all the good that Christianity has done.

I fully agree - no state religion.

And when anyone brings up the evils done in the name of God, I will always counter that because others seem to be afraid to do so. We CANNOT let exceptions define the rule.

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RU's avatar

I will usually counter claims about the evils done in the name of God, with...almost always done by a government pretending to speak for God.

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Politico Phil's avatar

šŸ‘

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AngelaK's avatar

The greatest phosophy of love was taught by Jesus.

If only one thing should be taught which could be life changing for society today, it is:

(quoted from internet encyclopedia of philosophy)

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.ā€ Moral philosophy has barely taken notice of the golden rule in its own terms despite the rule's prominence in commonsense ethics.

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Politico Phil's avatar

To put it mildly, that is definitely not part of our Foreign Policy.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Quite frankly, it's not unConstitutional. You can't find it in there. It is not a question of keeping religion out of education. That's an impossibility. It's only a question of whose religion will be taught to your child. By definition, all education is religious. All education assumes a starting point, a set of presuppositions or beliefs that inform our interpretation of reality and human behavior. In other words, a worldview. So the only question is, whose worldview will be taught to these young minds?

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RU's avatar

This is an interesting viewpoint. What's being tacitly taught really is a simplistic scientistic religion, isn't it? It has a set of doctrines, rituals, and sacraments. It has a one-size-fits-all solution for every problem. It has its priests and hierarchy. It cannot be challenged w/o one being considered a heretic.

No wonder the central planners, statists, socialists, commies, etc. always come after legitimate, historical religions. They're a challenger to their own pseudo-religious cult. Hmmm...thanks for sharing this.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This is exactly on point and needs no caveats. And now the Marxists/humanists are coming for us. American culture has long had a "civil religion" that is an abhorrent combination of humanist philosophy under a veneer of pious, self-justifying pseudo-Christianity that relies on the label "Judeo-Christian" society... an oxy-moron if there ever was one. Jesus made it clear in the Gospels that His Biblical religion has no truck with Judaism. Now that veneer has been shed and the evil of Marxism is fully revealing itself in control of the USG.

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Janet's avatar

Christians and churches should be able to have political discussions and plead their case as a whole in our country too. I went to 2 large Iraq anti war marches and people asked why no churches were there visibly. Why? Because the government effectively silenced them because of taxes. Making overt politics a no no affecting tax status but it’s spread to other no nos as well. That should be no excuse to not step up, however IMHO. Politics has gotten us almost solely into this TOTAL disaster. But not talking about it has infected every level down to local Bible studies of most mainstream churches. The current situation has destroyed any reasonable talk. Why I don’t attend one since 2020.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Funny how most ngos helping the illegal invasion are churches!

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Janet's avatar

Noticed. Disgusting reality. I guess they hide behind NGO status. But change often happens on the ground in the corners where good people can exchange thoughts on what they see and want to make a difference. These ngos are corrupt and often simply money launderers. I don’t give to any of those, including the Red Cross. The bending to politics during Covid drove me out. I believe in a congregational togetherness to further love and grace. It doesn’t even have to be a church or Christian if it does because love is an action. Grace is an action. Forgiveness is an action. Best, Janet

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Fla Mom's avatar

The tax exemption thing turned many pastors and flocks into cowards and slaves.

The understanding of the critical role of pastors and churches in politics was well understood at our founding and has been almost lost.

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Politico Phil's avatar

šŸ‘

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Politico Phil's avatar

So true.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

A good study of religions and history is very important. You might try looking at important difference in little lesser known Christian groups and who they say they are rather than the propaganda against them. Catholicism is just like Pharisees gone off the map. Hugganots Puritans and others are those who took proven Spiritual Biblical texts at its Word. Contradictions are ignored on one side and misunderstood historically on the other. Twists and turns by 'authorities' are for the purpose of enslaving. Truth sets one FREE. You'll know the difference when you've found it.

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cat's avatar

I agree. It taints some of the other things they want.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"...unless of course we want atheists, Muslims and other people hostile to the Lord Jesus teaching the Bible..."

Right?! How does that even make sense? It doesn't. But someone's religion is the basis for all education. The actual, obscured problem here is that the State should NOT be involved in education AT ALL.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Don’t forget Satanists. They’re already pushing for after school clubs.

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AngelaK's avatar

😔😢😔

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Carolyn's avatar

They do teach it as well as their customs

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Peter GL's avatar

when I was in school we had a weekly class about religion. Non christians were excused from attendance, and one of the teacher's name was fittingly "Theologian"

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Sam's avatar

In Utah the Mormons have seminary classes, but the buildings for kids to go to it are built off campus.

If parents want their kids reading the Bible then send them to Bible classes or teach at home.

Exactly right. If the Bible is acceptable then so should the Torah, koran and whatever Jehovah witnesses use.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Compulsory public education is the actual problem here from which everything else stems.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Lefties will bray about Hunter's conviction - See! No bias! All fair!

Hunter will likely be given a slap on the wrist and maybe some probation after being found guilty of what will deceitfully be called "paperwork violation", while very serious felonies will be ignored.

Trump will likely be given more years than an illegal alien gang member who gruesomely murders a family for, MAYBE, a paperwork violation that has been torturously twisted from misdemeanor to multiple felonies.

I still don't know what felony Trump committed. What he was convicted of are misdemeanors. Those misdemeanors become felonies when committed to enable another felonious crime. Ok, I get that logic. But what is that other felonious crime? Or is this a case of "Well, he could have!"?

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My Favorite Things's avatar

One huge difference is there was absolutely no need for Stormy to testify at Trump’s trial. Her testimony was only used to put Trump in a bad light to the jurors. The judge required that prosecutors prove Hunter was addicted to drugs so testimony was required.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Their claim was he did all 34 misdemeanors to cover up the fact he was extorted by some pig, and that would affect the election if it came out. It’s rather sick if you think about too much.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

um...being extorted is not a crime, neither is covering up being extorted (assuming that your premise is true, which it probably isn't). Extorting is a crime. So why wasn't the pig charged? Why wasn't the "lawyer" who facilitated it, and stole in the process, charged?

And, affecting the outcome of elections is exactly what politicians are supposed to do.

And, there is LONG list of politicians who have done the same, and much worse.

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I’m just telling you their claim. He was escorted by her,she admitted multiple times they never had sex, and it was just a way to get some coin. So she threatened. He paid. End of story. But the federal govt has a lot of power over NYS, and they flexed it. The whole thing was a complete sham, and on her deathbed, the pig will admit she was by the Feds to create the whole fucking thing.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Yes it was a complete sham.

Cohen paid, that is correct. I'm not sure if Trump knew about the nature of the payments. Which also are not illegal.

I know I am trying to make sense of something that is non-sensical. And whether stated or not via facebook posts, the verdict was pre-ordained.

All of the crazy legal crap occurring in NY will drive people and businesses away.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Drove me away.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Extorted. Sure would be nice to be able to edit.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I liked the "escorted" version, lol. But yes, on my laptop I can edit, and often have to.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah after seeing what I wrote the second time I was like yeah,kinda.

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CeeMcG's avatar

You can edit, on your computer. It’s an option if you click the three dots … by your post (not available on phone version).

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MaryAnn's avatar

I can edit from the three dots on my iphone.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Not available on tablet either. Laptop is too big to work with unless I gotta

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Nancy Tait's avatar

It's available on my tablet. I have an Android, so maybe not on Apple?

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AngelaK's avatar

I usually write on my Android Phone, thus the many typos and punctuation errors I see when I go back to my posts, making me cringe! I then edit.

Sadly it is usually after the post has been read by some. I am sure they roll their eyes !! I would! For some reason my 'of' always comes out 'if'..(fat fingers, I think)! )

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AngelaK's avatar

I read that she is now being rewarded in our perverse culture with an Australian comedy tour. šŸ™„

In decades gone by such a woman in such a profession would have been scorned and ostracized from polite society. How spiritually, morally. and mentally sick we have become.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Paid by the Feds

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AngelaK's avatar

And what about witch Hillary and her 'campaign expenses' for the despicably unethical and depraved commission of the bogus Russian dossier'?

Oh that's right. she just got a fine.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Did she even get that?

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MaryAnn's avatar

This YT video, Yale law prof explaining the Trump verdict, is excellent. No political bias, no legalese, not long.

https://youtu.be/u23t__ysVjU

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Maureen ODH's avatar

šŸŽÆšŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»

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Fred Jewett's avatar

I look upon the decision to send F-16s to Ukraine as another way to funnel money to the military industrial complex (MIC) and further the bankrupting of America. To send complex weapons to an unskilled foreign government who immediately trashes them is not productive. Those in the MIC knew this would happen.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

šŸŽÆ

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MaryAnn's avatar

Ukraine is now our offshore rustyard for useless MIC inventory.

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Tuco's Child's avatar

A new classic is born:

"Needless to say, flying F-16s isn’t like driving a golf cart. It’s hard even if you’re sober"

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Fred Jewett's avatar

God Bless Dr. Peter McCullough for taking the proactive step of researching bird flu origins early before the pandemic is unleashed.

In another great substack article yesterday A Midwestern Doctor unleashed a scathing uncovering of Fauci's medical abuses while in government employ and the government medical overseers in general.

What will it take to make the government work for the people again? Will Trump accomplish it or is he on the deep state payroll? Will western people rise up and demand government overhaul? Is civil war required?

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Karl's avatar

Regarding Michael Anderson: we must keep in mind that it took the FBI, the CIA and the MSN five years to find TRUTH in Hunterā€˜s laptop.

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nancylee's avatar

to even find the laptop which they had in their possession.

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carily myers's avatar

lol

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AngelaK's avatar

Meanwhile, I clearly recall (from the somewhat unbiased Daily Mail), that in an interview right after the discovery of the laptop, Hunter was asked if it was his. He responded "Probably"!!!

It wasn't what they wanted to hear, so it disappeared from public knowledge and the brainwashing mantra of "Russian disinformation" became the propaganda.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Re Biden’s laptop: I have followed Garrett Ziegler/MarcoPolo (he was an aide in the Trump WH) on Telegram for a couple of years. That young man explored every bit and pixel on that computer and documented with links all the corruption proudly displayed by ā€œthe smartest manā€ Joepedo ever knew. Ziegler published a soft cover book of his research which is now headed for a second printing. He is being sued by Hunter and was verbally accosted by Hunter’s current ā€˜companion’. He has clearly touched a nerve.

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Fred's avatar

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Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

ā€œGiven the stakes, it’s weird that nobody can track this guy down.ā€

not at all similar to the guy who left something at dnc hq on j6. šŸ™„

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