I needed a definition of "cis" and why it is used. What the heck does it mean to be "on this side of" heterosexual? I get the AWFL acronym as these women are awful but this "cis" makes no sense to me. I'm too old for this crap.
I'm over sixty, a sixties generational woman, I'm old enough to hate being called names like "guys", "honey", "Sweetie", etc by most ppl with a few exceptions. Intimates are exceptions. Waitresses/waiters and cashiers are NOT MY INTIMATES. As a mature married woman I also don't like being called Miss. Now you know.
Maybe they are just trying to be nice and make a connection? You sound very bitter. I tend to call younger people "honey", or "sweetie", so I'm surprised at YOUR age, ANYONE is calling you that. Perhaps you should be grateful that another human being would even consider you sweet or honeylike. Because, clearly from your words, you are anything but.
Actually, imho, calling people you do not know but who are customers "sweetie" or "honey" is condescending and a way to put people in their place....or bringing them down to the status level they see themselves being.
There's a difference between a man calling us "sweetie" or "honey" and a woman doing it. In the South, it's just a kindness. When men do it, it is most likely condescension.
I'm so old that my Bless your heart is old too. They've also changed that definition. 😞 School culture makes the last generation out of step me and more. Another reason to homeschool.
I agree with this. I don’t like it done to me and I don’t do it to others. I find it more respectful to ask for their name. Use their name. I remember feeling this way as a small child. I noticed it in healthcare nurses calling patients honey, sweetie, sweetheart! Yuck! No. Use their name.
True, I don't know you. But I read your words, pondered them, and made an assumption on an aspect of your personality based on your statements. Perhaps I could have made my point and ended my comment at "Maybe they are just trying to be nice and make a connection?" But, I couldn't help myself, because aren't you doing the same thing when you assume that someone is being condescending and/or patronizing if they call you sweetie or honey? You are ascribing negative personality traits onto those people. I'm just doing the same thing to you.
I disagree. I think it absolutely says something about her. As I replied to her, SHE makes negative assumptions about people who might call her sweetie or honey - she thinks they are rude and disrespectful. So, if she can make assumptions about people based on THEIR words, why can't I?
I live in the south and most people sincerely say things like that without any thought to it like “thank you sweetie” or like hey honey will you grab me that napkin over there? I think it says more about you being offended by such trivialities than them.
I appreciate waitresses and nursing techs, etc calling me honey and sweetie. These are personal terms without needing to remember your name among hundreds! I’m trying to employ it myself since remembering a name is taking me longer these days! It was an aha moment. Alas, I wasn’t raised in the south where’d it be natural, but I surely appreciate the sentiment.
But they call us guys too. If we’re out to dinner and the waiter calls us guys my husband belligerently says ‘she’s not a guy’ or asks ‘does she look like a guy?’ The kid cringes in befuddlement, and I cringe but not so much anymore. I almost said it the other night when out with a girlfriend. That’s progress!
The plural noun "guys" is well established as a gender-neutral term. I wouldn't necessarily have the nerve to say it to his face, but I think your husband should lighten up about that.
I'm in my late 30s and (maybe this is a PNW thing) have definitely called any group of people that I'm a part of "guys," regardless of their gender makeup since my teens. Heck, I called my group of girlfriends or sisters "guys!" It's definitely not a modern thing.
Yea, I get that but just because it’s become part of our lexicon doesn’t mean it’s always appropriate. Picture the 20 something calling the 60+ ladies out to lunch ‘guys’. I think it’s kinda disrespectful. Ironic that those kids also criticize us for not using the correct pronouns.
The other day I walked up to two people, one a trans pretending to be a women, and the other a straight man. I started my sentence with “hey guys”. The trans wasn’t offended. It’s just a conversational greeting, not literal. Your husband got a cringe because he humiliated the kid, training him that he can’t speak like a normal person in public.
No need to make a personal attack. That’s the cheap shot. Of course you can make assumptions.. never implied you couldn’t. You are making a judgement on her that’s is unsupported. That’s all. Free speech rocks! So do you…
Well..... seems like a lot of "men" were affected by the onslaught of feminism. Which is kinda mainstream nowadays, NOT just a democrat thing.
Commercials on TV overwhelmingly feature "soft" men , fuzzy beards and weak, funny excuse me looks. As the strong female leader looks on disapprovingly .
And who runs the media (commercials), the DNC propaganda tool, the Dem Party agenda and paid for by big Pharma. Today’s commercials get worse by the day along with all the shows filled with the same agenda. It’s as if 75% of the population is gay.
If you want men to “come back”, maybe stop calling them “cis heterosexual males” and just call them MEN. That might work.
That insane CIS moniker makes me sick to my stomach every time I see it. What the heck???
I needed a definition of "cis" and why it is used. What the heck does it mean to be "on this side of" heterosexual? I get the AWFL acronym as these women are awful but this "cis" makes no sense to me. I'm too old for this crap.
It’s a term used in organic chemistry for the structure of a molecule. Cis is the same side; trans is opposite sides. Whatever.
I’m not sure trans has any sides. They seem to be all over the place like a spinning top.
I like the word normal!
LOL, I had to look it up bc I had no idea what it meant!
I still don't get "They/Them"... but it sounds like some very serious mental disorder...
It’s so stupid 🙄
“Cis” was adopted by trans activists because they needed a term for “not trans” and didn’t like “normal,” “natural,” etc.
CIS: yet another example of the silly, made-up terminology the deceived are trying to force the rest of the world into adopting.
Activism is essentially persuasion, so they put a lot of effort into terminology: “gender-affirming care,” “transphobia,” etc.
Yes, and a stupid word. I refuse to use it in any context.
They like the term "normy". Lol.
Yeah, just call them "guys."
I'm over sixty, a sixties generational woman, I'm old enough to hate being called names like "guys", "honey", "Sweetie", etc by most ppl with a few exceptions. Intimates are exceptions. Waitresses/waiters and cashiers are NOT MY INTIMATES. As a mature married woman I also don't like being called Miss. Now you know.
Maybe they are just trying to be nice and make a connection? You sound very bitter. I tend to call younger people "honey", or "sweetie", so I'm surprised at YOUR age, ANYONE is calling you that. Perhaps you should be grateful that another human being would even consider you sweet or honeylike. Because, clearly from your words, you are anything but.
Actually, imho, calling people you do not know but who are customers "sweetie" or "honey" is condescending and a way to put people in their place....or bringing them down to the status level they see themselves being.
There's a difference between a man calling us "sweetie" or "honey" and a woman doing it. In the South, it's just a kindness. When men do it, it is most likely condescension.
I was about to say, being called "sweetie" by a waitress at a Waffle House in Georgia is pretty par for the course.
Yeh, I don't think it's a good idea to piss off anyone who is bringing you food. Even if they called me granny!
Well this is true!
It is when they say Bless Your Heart… they are putting you down. Calling sweetie or honey is just an endearment or they forgot your name.
I'm so old that my Bless your heart is old too. They've also changed that definition. 😞 School culture makes the last generation out of step me and more. Another reason to homeschool.
Nowadays......... best to call the waitress DUDE
unless its a gayguy. Then i use Sweetie
Nah. Chill
I agree with this. I don’t like it done to me and I don’t do it to others. I find it more respectful to ask for their name. Use their name. I remember feeling this way as a small child. I noticed it in healthcare nurses calling patients honey, sweetie, sweetheart! Yuck! No. Use their name.
I disagree.
Clearly you don't know me. Very rude to assume that you do.
True, I don't know you. But I read your words, pondered them, and made an assumption on an aspect of your personality based on your statements. Perhaps I could have made my point and ended my comment at "Maybe they are just trying to be nice and make a connection?" But, I couldn't help myself, because aren't you doing the same thing when you assume that someone is being condescending and/or patronizing if they call you sweetie or honey? You are ascribing negative personality traits onto those people. I'm just doing the same thing to you.
That is a cheap shot that’s not backed up by anything she said.
I disagree. I think it absolutely says something about her. As I replied to her, SHE makes negative assumptions about people who might call her sweetie or honey - she thinks they are rude and disrespectful. So, if she can make assumptions about people based on THEIR words, why can't I?
Calm down, sweetie 😉
Lol!
😂😂
Ok, but what if no one gives a rats ass?
Some don’t. I don’t throw a fit about it some exchange’s are seconds in your life. Move on. It’s like the pronouns 😂
I live in the south and most people sincerely say things like that without any thought to it like “thank you sweetie” or like hey honey will you grab me that napkin over there? I think it says more about you being offended by such trivialities than them.
I agree.
I appreciate waitresses and nursing techs, etc calling me honey and sweetie. These are personal terms without needing to remember your name among hundreds! I’m trying to employ it myself since remembering a name is taking me longer these days! It was an aha moment. Alas, I wasn’t raised in the south where’d it be natural, but I surely appreciate the sentiment.
Thank you for your comment. My father would turn over in his grave if he thought I was using some of the “greetings” and language of today.
I’d love to be called Miss. When I was in my early years of college, I worked at a drugstore. I got Ma’am-ed All.The.Time! Lol!
Your not fifty five yet, are your?
Mentally, no 😁
Biologically, I’m 62, just barely.
But they call us guys too. If we’re out to dinner and the waiter calls us guys my husband belligerently says ‘she’s not a guy’ or asks ‘does she look like a guy?’ The kid cringes in befuddlement, and I cringe but not so much anymore. I almost said it the other night when out with a girlfriend. That’s progress!
The plural noun "guys" is well established as a gender-neutral term. I wouldn't necessarily have the nerve to say it to his face, but I think your husband should lighten up about that.
I'm in my late 30s and (maybe this is a PNW thing) have definitely called any group of people that I'm a part of "guys," regardless of their gender makeup since my teens. Heck, I called my group of girlfriends or sisters "guys!" It's definitely not a modern thing.
Lighten up Francis....
Yea, I get that but just because it’s become part of our lexicon doesn’t mean it’s always appropriate. Picture the 20 something calling the 60+ ladies out to lunch ‘guys’. I think it’s kinda disrespectful. Ironic that those kids also criticize us for not using the correct pronouns.
Not kinda, but definitely disrespectful
Only in course, crude society do you refer to women as “guy” if you take your logic to its end, we will be calling mixed groups “dick heads”
If you’re looking for something to be upset about, chances are good that you’ll find it.
If you’re looking for some reason to accept disrespectful language and actions, you’ll usually find it.
I bet you are fun at parties too.
I’m usually not invited. Wonder why? Lol! Oh, well
True
The other day I walked up to two people, one a trans pretending to be a women, and the other a straight man. I started my sentence with “hey guys”. The trans wasn’t offended. It’s just a conversational greeting, not literal. Your husband got a cringe because he humiliated the kid, training him that he can’t speak like a normal person in public.
Maybe he was secretly offended. So much so, he will be asking you out on a date.
No need to make a personal attack. That’s the cheap shot. Of course you can make assumptions.. never implied you couldn’t. You are making a judgement on her that’s is unsupported. That’s all. Free speech rocks! So do you…
Huh? Was this meant for someone else?
Sorry. Lol Got lost…. Senior moment. My apologies
😆 been there, like every other day or two!
That’s not progress. It’s just yankee rudeness.
"Guy guys." My term for normal men.
Was thinking the same. Offend them, slap them, and then invite them back. Like that's going to work 🙄
Well..... seems like a lot of "men" were affected by the onslaught of feminism. Which is kinda mainstream nowadays, NOT just a democrat thing.
Commercials on TV overwhelmingly feature "soft" men , fuzzy beards and weak, funny excuse me looks. As the strong female leader looks on disapprovingly .
And who runs the media (commercials), the DNC propaganda tool, the Dem Party agenda and paid for by big Pharma. Today’s commercials get worse by the day along with all the shows filled with the same agenda. It’s as if 75% of the population is gay.
It reminds me of a bumper sticker I used to see in South Florida”Come back to Miami- we weren’t shooting at YOU!
Right??
🎯🎯🎯
Nard.... 😂😂😂😂😂 Ya think!???