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Alison Smith's avatar

How do we know that there will not be huge election fraud once again Nov 2024? That’s what I am worried about. The Resident Moron did not “win” his way into the WH.

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Donna in MO's avatar

We don't know, but hope people don't use that as an excuse to stay home. All this 'Trump beating Biden' headline news is a back alley way of motivating the D base to turn out.

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Aloha50's avatar

MSM: Make sure Trump gets the nomination ('look how he's beating Biden!'). Once nomination is secure, then coincidentally the polls flip to Biden (or Newsome) and Trump is unfit, too old, convicted felon...whatever. Add, rinse, repeat.....

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Peter GL's avatar

I'm actually afraid of that: after Trump secures the nomination then they will all of sudden dump Brandon - Harris and give us a younger more rabid version, and then God help America

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MaryAnn's avatar

Agree. Newsome is in the pipeline.

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PermieGeek's avatar

I received 3 fundraising emails from Newsom this week and have never before.

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WP William's avatar

and ColorapeyO's Pole-Lisp after him

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Kim D's avatar

Hearing lots of chatter about putting up Michelle O.........................

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Pluto’s aura's avatar

No way. They’re rich and she’s not into it. Look out at California is and the Joker who are out while everyone else needed to heat up canned soup alone and at home.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Probably also wise to steer clear due to the very mysterious chef drowning....don't need to draw attention to that.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

I'm guessing...the Dem nomination will be: Mike Obama and Gruesome as VP

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

I think it should be Dean Philips (already running) as he’s Jewish (served on board of Temple Israel in MN) and the Dems would be put in an awkward position lol.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Except Trump gives proof to the lie by his very being. Check out his vigorous activities on RSBN.com or the RSBN streaming channel.

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John Bugni's avatar

Link doesn't work

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Willing Spirit's avatar

https://www.rsbnetwork.com

My apologies, I was hasty. The streaming channel is great.

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CStone's avatar

So glad to see you back.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Thank you! Been busy with good family stuff. My 14th grandchild is expected in June. Pray for the tiny one’s safety, please!

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CStone's avatar

I will indeed be praying. And baby news is so exciting! We love babies❤️. The toes always get me, lol.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I know!❤️💕❤️

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Prayers indeed! Congratulations 🎇

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Thank you! My son married last November at 42 years of age. His bride was 36. First marriage for both. They are so eager to have children.

From my other three children; the oldest grandchild is 22 and the last born is now 9. So we’re all excited to get back in the baby business!

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

Remember the polls have been wrong every election. I don’t trust them now.

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Annie's avatar

Hopefully the D base is taking all their boosters and shots.

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Peter GL's avatar

They will get an absentee ballot and vote from the grave

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Janet's avatar

Won’t there be another round of them right before the election? 🤔

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Certainly a new “variant” that requires lockdowns and mail-ins to flatten the election curve.

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Annie's avatar

Probably

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Janet's avatar

Yup. “Rattle the base”. You’ll see a lot of it now. Scarifying reports and polls. It worked on me once but when i realized polls mean nothing these days, i got back to independent thinking and analysis. I’m not always right (by a long shot) but I’m better at it.

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Roger Beal's avatar

El Rushbo often said that all polls published earlier than about four months before an election are designed to shape the electorate's thinking, and rarely have any truth within their predictions. It's only when we get close to the election that the polling firms start telling the truth, so as to preserve their credibility.

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Christy's avatar

What would the democrats do without their biggest boogey man???

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Annie's avatar

Same as now which is nothing useful and more likely damaging to society as a whole.

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RU's avatar

IMO, it serves two purposes. 1) is to scapegoat "Joe Biden" for the last 3 years of Uniparty scam, incompetence, and crimes, and set up a narrative shift using some other puppet (we all know which one - he looks like Trudeau's brother and resides in CA). 2) is to do as you said. Whip up fear among D voters so they embrace this narrative shift and the new "face" of the D party. "Orange Man Bad is hiding under the bed waiting to pounce and steal the election! Forget everything that happened these last 3 years and vote for Gavin!"

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AL's avatar

Or...even worse--they are also promoting Trump in this, which makes me worried that they are building a case for his victory--if all of his legal troubles vanish as they have so far, and he wins the election, I would have to consider the idea that he is one of them after all, just doing an amazing job of keeping us properly divided and angry on both sides.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

I hate the thought of that, but it's been in the back of my mind for a while now. I just hope I'm wrong.

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AL's avatar

I know exactly how you feel. I am inclined to believe it, albeit reluctantly, based on even just the basics I know to be true--that no one even gets a seat at the table (much less possibly the most press a president/candidate has EVER gotten in the press) if they are not part of the plan. The mainstream leftist media is putting him front and center, even on CNN. My gut tells me it has to be on purpose. If they wanted him gone, they kill him, disable him or simply ignore him on every platform.

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PermieGeek's avatar

There’s the weird fact that Gavin’s ex wife is now engaged to Don Jr. Don’t know if it means anything but is odd. And Ivanka becoming a Young Global leader for WEF in 2015.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

WHAT?!?! I did not know that!! Well, well, well. Kind of like Hitlary's spawn being married to one of Soros's nephews...🤔

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RU's avatar

Seems to me the #1 thing they don't want is for people to see their multi-generational grift for what it is. Hiding that grift is the whole purpose of the Uniparty. And that's been Trump's non-stop message for the past 8 years. The Uniparty is also resolutely pro-war b/c that's where their money and power come from. Trump is resolutely anti-war. He exposed their grift and warmongering to more people than anyone else, ever. All of that just doesn't track with a grand scheme to put him in power.

IMO, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...they have a model and it has worked w/o fail for 30+ years. Think of all the wars they've started, then lost and left in disgrace, with all the profits going to a tiny handful of connected individuals. He (that is, we) threw a wrench in that by seeing that people like the Bushes and McConnells of the world are actually aligned with the Clintons and Pelosis, not us. We used Trump to take the (R) party over.

If anything, I could buy that they've realized none of their efforts to remove him have worked. The American system is more resilient than they realized. The people are smarter than they thought. States rights and Constitutional rights have more power than they thought. So, they have resigned themselves to seeing he's very possibly going to win and they will need to find a way control him again. My question is whether he learned from his first term how they work and will surround himself with better people if there is a 2nd term.

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CH's avatar

Everything you say is true except that I think Trump knew many of them were backstabbers. The f'ers are still coming out of the woodwork and stabbing him in the back. It just proves how corrupt our government really is. A Trump second term will be catastrophic for them and they know it. It is why they did not care how obvious the fraud was in 2020. Just like HRC said "If that bas***d wins we all hang" or something like that. They just wanted to get rid of Trump no matter what and they are still trying to do that. I really think things are going to get crazier once Trump wins the Republican nomination and we get closer to Nov 2024. They are liked cornered animals and will burn everything down if it means they lose.

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RU's avatar

I would agree that he knew many would backstab him him. People like us vote for political outsiders b/c the insiders are all corrupt. But, it's a double-edged sword in a way. The fact they're outsiders means they don't have a bench of talent to go to, and they don't have people who understand how the blob works / how things get done. I'm hoping now that he's seen it from the inside, he'll have a plan to deal with it.

Totally agree that things are going to get weirder if/when he wins the (R) nomination. They've been trying to get him off the ballot / out of office for 8 years: first by calling him ugly, fat, stupid, lazy, a racist, a womanizer, a misogynist, and saying his family hated him and his wife had secretly left him. When that didn't work, they tried saying he was mentally ill, saying he had too many financial entanglements, deemed him an agent of a foreign country, indicted him on RICO charges (lol), said he stole national security documents and is a national security threat, etc. None of those tactics have worked. In fact, they seem to have made him even more popular. And he was already the most popular political figure, probably in the world.

IDK how they will react though. The Obama team I think will run for the hills and try to escape accountability. The Clinton team will fight to the death. The useful idiots like Fauci will flee the country or flip. Hard to say. Probably comes down to individual characters. My hope is someone sees an opportunity to personally gain and turns on the cabal, exposing the rot.

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CH's avatar

I think they have and continue to underestimate him. I saw in interview he did many years ago and he always seeks revenge on his enemies. I hope he gets it in this case. It would be a beautiful thing to see! I agree with your analysis of what they will do. Many of them are evil but I think many are cowards and will turn on each other, also.

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WP William's avatar

Julius Caesar and DJ Trump brutally handled by the establishment insider stalwarts elitists, super wealthy, who truly pull the strings, own and attach the strings and who cash in on conspiring with Barbarians, Parthians, whomever helps despoil the Empire and keeps the masses in their rightful place.

WE MUST get a populist Spartacus uprising against the rot at the top and they must join or.....flee

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AL's avatar

I keep an open mind. I know for a fact if they felt Trump were a true threat to their agenda, they would have already killed, maimed or de-platformed him long ago. But they've done the opposite of that. He has a very recent history of borrowing (as did his son) hundreds of millions of dollars from Soros and hanging out with the DNC crowd. Calling out the uniparty--or other obvious facts--is just angry rhetoric that riles up his base. Not hard to figure out what to say.

When he addresses the fact that covid and the injections--both bioweapons created by our gov't were a DOD operation from the start and that agenda was to disable/kill us all, then I might believe in him. But I think negative talk of vaccines is a deal breaker for the mafia, because that cull has been going on for almost 100 years--uncover that entire rat's nest and it's the beginning of game-over. If he's part of it, electing him next November will be Part 3, where Trump calms the majority revolt, ushers in the digital currency (it's a good thing!) and there is NO break in the vaccine agenda.

Do they think he is a threat? Not if he's on board with the bigger agenda, or if the elections are pre-determined, or if somehow they have bigger plans for him. Who really knows.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

How did this guy get away with saying this in 2015?

https://x.com/RealSaavedra/status/983054891345039360?s=20

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AL's avatar

Good question, but it sure riled the party, didn't it?

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WP William's avatar

Newsome-Harris?? Newsome-Poli(o)s?, Newsome-Booker? or maybe its LATINX time for the Divideocrats' V.P.

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Solzhenitsyn’s Ghost's avatar

Here's the full Deep State/Media psychological operation (PsyOps):

- The deep state and media now fear DeSantis far more than Trump. This is why they are now promoting Trump. They think they have the mortal legal wounds to finish him off after he out-primaries DeSantis (they WANT) Trump to win the R nomination mortally wounded, politically and legally). And yes, just in case, whip up their base that the bogeyman is near.

- Now that they figured out that RFK may take more votes from Trump and DeSantis than FJB or any Dem, they will start having more interviews like the Ackman one. Subtle promotion of RFK as spoiler to Republicans as "big time Republicans" support RFK.

- FJB will not be the nominee. It will be the Leninist creep Cali-destroyer Gavin Newsom who is in China currently performing fellatio on top officials there, impressing Dems and "independents" tired of "controversy".

The PsyOps rolls on.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

There's no one the Deep State and the MSM (but I repeat myself) want to be the GOP nominee more than Donald Trump.

They will probably get their hearts' desire, after which Newsom will roll in the biggest presidential landslide in history.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

We all need to be on our knees in daily prayer for His grace and mercy upon our country for the next 365 days. Gruesome Newsome is a soulless evil human totally on board with doing deeds for his master satan.

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Faith Adams's avatar

Amen!

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Politico Phil's avatar

I dunno Fred. That doesn't make sense to me. Furthermore, I think the American people of all political and ethnic persuasions are sick of the Democratic party. I even hear of life-time democrats saying they are not just going to vote Rep but are going to specifically vote for Trump. I think the "never Trump" crowd is at this point made up mostly of Republicans who for some reason always bought into the Never Trump emotional bait.

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WP William's avatar

Our State GOP (ColoBlueO) is FULL of Never Trump establishment purists who despise religion, tradition, notions of family, populism, they are given platforms to rail against both the Dem Stranglehold and Conservatism of the voter base GOP/Trump/Boebert, while touting what exactly??? Libertarian Utopia, an Activist Progressive Governor to act as the E-Brake on a runaway Commie Legislature with a smirk on his fat face. Like Prussian semi-royalty not deigning to take a side in the struggle for Germany while murderous thug Nazi-Commies vied to steal it ALL from Democratic Liberals. They will gladly bend the knee, curtsey, and kiss the ring of JaRed Pol-lisp for acclaim, $$$, sense of superiority. Rush L. always said the Dems USE their base and laugh behind their backs, the Reps DESPISE their base and stab their backs.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Shit libs fall into the "never trump" category too. Not sure how much of the electorate they occupy, but they don't change the vote anyways

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LH01's avatar

OMG, even the suggestion turns my stomach.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

The biggest fraudulent election in history, even more so than 2020.

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Johnny-O's avatar

And ain't that the truth:

Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: “It May Not Be Good for America, but It’s Damn Good for CBS”

Shareholders' primary and number one responsibility is to make money.

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Tom's avatar

Perhaps China is guaranteeing Gavin Newsom a seat at the table after the "unpleasantness" to come.

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WP William's avatar

we still have several Colorado Dem Congress/theys who need to carry Articles of Impeachment against Trump...Nguese and Crow wear it with PRIDE, maybe we can get another 2 or more in the que for it with a Trump 24 electoral win--still NOT the popular vote of course.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Ackman is a Democratic donor.

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WP William's avatar

yes, he has now been "given permission" to speak out an alternate narrative, how very brave and honorable of him, avantgarde and a trailblazing maverick.

Let's see him sacrifice for his stance...it won't be forthcoming like it has been and continues to be for many others

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CStone's avatar

It’ll be ‘Big Mike’ running with either Gavin Newsome or even hubby Barry Soetoro (soretoes) as vp. Evil twins.

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CMCM's avatar

The Democrats and their Media arm are setting in motion a means to dump Biden from the ticket. Newsom is waiting in the wings, and he's the one they will push. Clueless Dem women will help elect the pretty boy. And they will probably still utilize cheating to push him into winning.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well's he's better looking than Biden, but that smile CREEPS me out!!

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Lord, have Mercy on us all!

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WP William's avatar

the idiot, emotional, unfulfilled (White educated) women's vote? Lord they could put castration of men over 40 on the ballot, and get sex toys to be untaxed as medical devices, paid time off for menstrual cycles and menopause reparations.....

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WP William's avatar

expecting a DOMINION squeaker win tomorrow for CommuRado's Prop HH and II destroying our assaulted taxpayer bill of rights, and giving excessively collected tobacco taxes to Gov Polis' state-sponsored Gender-Affirming Preschools and other pet projects. SLEAZIER and SLICKER and softer more loveable Liberaltarian Progressive Commie than Newsome....watch out for this pervert embryo slayer.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Congrats on the win. Looks like they are still plotting to screw over the taxpayers though. https://www.denverpost.com/2023/11/10/proposition-hh-property-taxes-education-colorado-election/

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WP William's avatar

its only a speedbump to Gov Polis and the Marxist Party; they DID WIN on Prop II which makes voters complicit in excess taxation of tobacco being stolen and then used for Gender-Affirming State Sponsored Preschool or whatever else they want to spend $24 million on. Won by similar margin as HH lost by---was that the result of FAR LEFT Misinformation and voter confusion?? Well No, but YES as a matter of fact.

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Sherry 1's avatar

Yes. Like they did in the mid-terms. Red Tsunami. All hype to get the Dems out. They are lemmings.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

SPOT ON, DONNA!

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Emily M's avatar

IMO, the wide open borders are going to be the way that they declare marshal law. It would surprise me if 2024 elections take place. If they do, they will create chaos so that they can cheat again. Does anyone think they would allow Trump to have another go at it? I am not sure that we will have a country left by 2024.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Agree 💯 BUT. God is in control. I stand on his promises. It may (and probably will) get worse before it gets better, but our job is to keep turning to him. Or said another way: acknowledge God, take the next right step, and be a sign of hope to others. May it be so! 🙏🏻

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Emily M's avatar

I believe in God but that doesn't change the suffering that is headed towards us. I think that is partially our fault, we were complacent for too long, living the good life. Life is getting harder each day.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Yes, I know I certainly was complacent for too long, busy raising kids and trying to be a productive citizen. And I just kept naively thinking, “well, they won’t do THAT.” And every time, “they” did whatever that was, and worse. Hard to comprehend the evil humans are capable of.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

We never thought that our own government would turn on us.

The biomedical security state military industrial complex.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Yes they did, but it's still shocking, isn't it?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

They did a long time ago, Kathleen.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I’ve watched that coming for more than 50 years now. Governments ALWAYS turn tyrannical. Our Nation”s Founders certainly understood that. And a court just declared that AR 15’s aren’t “protected” by the 2nd Amendment.

You are watching in real time as the tyrants strengthen their grasp around YOUR throat.

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Jen's avatar

It's time for us to stop being surprised by any of the horrors mankind is capable of. Remember the Milgram experiments? The powers that be now know that 2/3 of us are capable of shocking someone to the point of death simply driven by Expert prodding. Thinking about that is powerful. We must have faith in God, not man. I'm sure most of us on here are already at that realization, but it bears repeating as we all forget sometimes, I'm sure.

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WP William's avatar

the first killing or 3 are repugnant yet once one is used to it one can actually be exhilarated and tantalized by it, these sick Fks have studied how torturing and slaughtering and cannibalizing can be mainstreamed into the ordinary average person with the proper techniques.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Truth. And remembering that as the Israelites were being carted off to Babylon. The faithful along with the unfaithful were carted off. BUT, many of those remained faithful and hopeful for God's promises.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The ten tribes of the Northern Kingdom of Israel that were carried off into captivity never came back to the land when the Southern Kingdom of Judah invited them. They subsequently disappeared off the pages of recorded history, thus the name the 10 Lost Tribes. Only the people of the Southern Kingdom of Judah and those Levites who lived there with them were the majority of residents when the Messiah came in the flesh. Of those, you can read in the NT how many were faithful and accepted the Lord when He came to them. Jesus Himself warned them to escape the judgement and tribulation to come and Jesus warned them again through the vision He gave John in Revelation. Thus the faithful were saved. The rest who didn't accept the coming of the Messiah faced the great tribulation when God laid Jerusalem desolate and destroyed the Temple and the genealogies ending forever the prior sacrificial system now that The Sacrifice had come in the Person of God's Son.

We, the church, seem to be in the same condition today as few in the church seem to understand the above anymore.

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Politico Phil's avatar

But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies,

then know that her desolation is at hand. Then let those

who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who

are in the midst of the city depart, and let not those who are

in the country enter the city; because these are the Days of

Vengeance, IN ORDER THAT ALL THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN MAY BE FULFILLED.

Luke 21:20-22

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Raphael's avatar

You know they considered cyrus the great the messiah.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I have never seen that in scripture. But faithful and unfaithful Jews were waiting for a Messiah to come as promised. So, I can see that as a possibility for some. Even as the scriptures are God's word, they are still a bit 2 dimensional. Meaning in between those sentences there was life and time going on. Things we don't get to see as words on paper.

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Raphael's avatar

It's in their writings in the old testament Cyrus the great The messiah.

Also the Talmud

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Many thought Nero was the antichrist.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"I believe in God but that doesn't change the suffering that is headed towards us."

Was talking with a lady after Mass yesterday. Her husband has a good job with a power company, but she was bemoaning the effects of inflation and how they were struggling to keep food on the table.

(Fortunately for them, the husband got two deer last week, so at least they'll have meat.)

But you're correct: it's going to get much worse.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Very good!

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Butterfly2510's avatar

I said on this substack three years ago, at the beginning of Joes term, we will be most fortunate if we are a sovereign nation at the end of his term. I absolutely don’t understand why he’s not behind bars and why no political leader can do anything about him or our border. It’s very scary to me but I’m not afraid. I’m cautious however.

I think “they” (the Network as some people refer to it. The ones who are running the world), have dirt on almost every Congressman/woman and that’s why very few can do anything.

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Emily M's avatar

I agree with you, I think every person in Congress has been compromised in some way. But I don't think Biden is the leader of anything, except maybe the line to the bathroom. There are others that are calling the shots. Many say it is Obama, I don't buy into that either. Obama was installed just like Biden was. They are just the people out in front of the cameras. WEF, Soros, etc. are ruining this country, and many others, on purpose.

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CStone's avatar

And over those are ‘demonic rulers in high places’. Even Soros is a puppet.

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AL's avatar

Agree 100%. We will never see the faces of our bankster mafia ruling class. And they come in at all angles, pour in trillions into the psy-ops and keep us too busy and poor to notice. What these liberal rags are doing in the media is part of all of that--preparing us mentally for the next chapter in their game, whether that be an RFK or Newson victory (we knew Biden would be out) or even if it is a Trump victory, which would mean Trump is very much a part of that secret agenda.

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CStone's avatar

How is Trump winning proving that he’s ‘in on it’?

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AL's avatar

I am not saying there is "proof" of anything, just evidence. I am keeping an open mind, as I do not know, obviously--but what I do know flies in the face of his candidacy as being a legitimate one. But we all come to this point from different places with different sets of knowledge, gut feelings, analyses, etc.

We were told to believe that people hated Trump so much that just 4 years ago, Biden won by 11 million votes without even campaigning. Now, the world is told that Trump is a criminal, whether he is convicted or not, and yet, nothing has come of YEARS of allegations, even after raiding his home. But he is winning in the polls by quite a margin.

Years and years of theatre. We will see.

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J Boss's avatar

Not everyone is compromised. Only those with power.

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Peter GL's avatar

Who will dare go against Brandon? Anybody that has is being marginalized or driven out of the party, and the governmental tit is too addicting to give up

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Emily M's avatar

I don't think it is Brandon, he is just the person they are using at the moment. See how they are turning on him now? It will get worse because they know they would never be able to cheat him in again.

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AL's avatar

Nothing to do with him. Or anyone in particular, or even the party itself. If they wanted to now vilify the democrats and elevate the republicans to gain more ground, they will do that. All of this requires thinking far outside the normie box.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Living in a matrix with the Great Oz pulling the strings.

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WP William's avatar

the Enrichocrats DID run much of the Rep Party for many decades, both parties had their Progressive Industrialist Financiers; they culturally shifted (Rockefeller and others) evolved to erode them and elevate Dems as they gain more power and make big $$$$ off of both processes at the same time...If Populists and Patriots win back ground and Commie-globalists fade some you can bet the big bucks will not lose out in the new equation/dynamic, rather they will simply play the game again by a slightly different rulebook

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Alan Davis's avatar

They will start a world war before they let Trump back in. He will be in jail and they still wont think it is enough to stop him

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Willing Spirit's avatar

His horrid contenders for the nomination are apparently counting on great evil to befall President Trump. How despicable are they, not to speak out against the Weaponization of the legal system? As if it would never be used against them. Or the rest of Americans. As if we would vote for any of them after seeing this behavior. Only Vivek Ramaswamy has spoken out in defense of true justice. For this I respect him.

The next Republican debate should be a hoot with DeSantis and Nikki scrabbling for first loser slot. What DeSantis has done to himself is incomprehensible. He could have had a bright future in the MAGA wing. Now he needs to cut his losses and get serious about governing Florida. That’s what he’s being paid to do. And then he can fade into the sunset of obscurity. Hopefully he’s been well paid.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Agree. I think Trump is going to jail. They don’t care whether it’s lawful or not.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

None of the fabricated cases against him will stand up in court.

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Peter GL's avatar

unless the judges rule against him, which is why they are taking Trump to leftie courts and judges

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Agreed. Exactly right, Peter.

However, the Supreme Court will have to respect the separation of powers -- AND the LAW itself. I can't see how the Highest Court in the Nation can possibly take seriously a prosecution with the nonsensical legal theories of the likes of Fani Willis, Letitia James, and Alvin Bragg.

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Peter GL's avatar

I suspect they are hoping that by the time the whole process plays out with appeals etc it will be too late. What is happening now us not right, and the judges are playing games. The Supreme Court should get it right once it gets there… but recall the abortion issue and the leak last election cycle. That shouldn’t have happened, yet here we are.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Yes. Looks like the various cases won't make it to the SCOTUS until after the election. By design, no doubt. But I would vote for Trump even if he were falsely imprisoned. And it appears most Trump supporters aren't fazed by the lawfare. What has happened to our judicial system is a travesty.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

The delusion continues ....

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

I'd like to think you meant that kindly, Fred.

P.S. I'm also someone who loves the traditional Latin Mass. The Second Vatican Council led the Catholic Church astray.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

And THAT was very kind of you, Kathleen. Thank you.

(I try to imagine that everyone I encounter is speaking with a smile in his or her face, but I often fail.)

My point, uncharitably expressed - pls forgive me - was that there is almost no chance that Trump prevails. The Supreme Court *should* hear his appeals, but I lack your faith that they will. (They don't have to, of course.)

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AL's avatar

Either that, or he will emerge triumphant as he has in the past. Which would mean that all of this has been theatre, and any win for him would be the ultimate tell that he is just as much a part of the elitist cartel/ruling class mafia as the others (such as Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden to name a few). That what we think and feel about trump has been nothing but a state-sponsored illusion to keep us very much fighting and in the dark where it matters.

I can't get over the fact that this "virus" was created and released for the sole purpose of injecting bioweapons into all of us--a military operation from start to finish which is practically mainstream known at t his point, and yet Trump won't speak of it--in fact, he is still promoting the "vaccines" and stating they have "saved millions of lives." He absolutely knows that is not true. That's the "tell" IMO.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Oh Al!! Very astute observation!! Never looked at it that way!! Time will tell!!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Good grief!

Trump did the following:

1) stopped ISIS cold


2) EO stopping the drug companies from charging medicare more than what they charged foreign countries


3) EO forcing hospitals to disclose their prices


4) Move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem


5) ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the first time in my lifetime of 70 years, and record low energy prices


6) Started no new wars
 6A) Abraham Accords, bringing peace to the middle east instead of war


7) Elimination of regulations, required to eliminate 8 to add a new one


8) Cut Taxes across the board


9) Increased the individual tax credit eliminating the need to file more complicated returns


10) Started the space force, sorely needed today


11) Replaced NAFTA with an agreement better for American workers


12) Put tariffs on china, starting the process of moving American production out of the enemy’s land


13) Brought back massive amounts of money saved in foreign countries


14) Withdrew from the farce know as the Paris Climate Accords


15) Withdrew from the Iran deal


16) Increased the $$$ of the average family by over 5K


17) Started the process of fixing the VA


18) Increased the spending by other NATO countries


19) Killed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)


20) Created several million jobs, actual creation not bafflegab bullshit


21) Economic growth rates were going up, somewhere around 4% before the marxist killed the economy with the scam chinaVirus


22) Lowest rate of unemployment ever, across the board for blacks, hispanics, asians, veterans, etc.


23) Opened ANWAR and had the Keystone pipeline being constructed

There is much more of course. Makes your pathetic attempt to paint Trump poorly look just like it is.

I listen to practically every speech President Trump makes on the RSBN streaming channel. Also available on rsbnetwork.com. Listen to him and you will know you are being untruthful about what he is saying. I assume you’re parroting some secondhand source.

Dear God, if only the vaccines were the only, or even the most pressing danger we face today!

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AL's avatar

Also, though Trump ran on the "draining the swamp" and telling the media to EFF off that never happened. Trump also once pondered bringing RFK, Jr. in and revamping vaccine policies because he had learned more than the average person about vaccines from him and others prior to his presidency. But then he rushed through some dangerous experimental drugs and enacted some "overlord overreach policies." No way he was "hoodwinked" by others on this topic. Even if he were, he wouldn't be now. But he LOVES the covid vaccines! If you are going to get stuck on the list of "what he did" you also need to fully explain what he didn't do and justify his then and current stance on the culling injections.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

What is your plan?

I don’t accept what you say about President Trump. I get that you hate him with a stone cold hatred. And there seems to be some agenda here.

What are you hoping to accomplish?

Given your worldview, what do you recommend that people do?

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AL's avatar

Are you mentally ill? You continue to twist the facts to suit your discomfort. I’m not here to tell anyone what to do. Nor do I “hate” anyone, much less "stone cold." You are pure drama.

If today was voting day I’d vote for Trump because…. Who else is there? What real choice would I have?

The only point to my entire post is that things may not be as they seem even with Trump. Plenty of evidence if that. Do I know for sure? No. Do I think it’s very plausible that he’s no different than Obama, Bush, Biden or anyone else who sold the US under? Yes, I do. Because that’s how it works. Get your head out of the clouds.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Am I mentally ill? Wow, no one has ever asked me that before. I’m still running around free, so I guess I’m not certifiable anyway. Though I think that bar has been raised way to high these days.

I’m happy. I trust God with every day I’m given. I’m not afraid. And I have hopeful expectation of an ecstatic existence throughout eternity.

We just have different worldviews. Yours seems rather sad and stressful to me and I’m putting you on my prayer list.

Peace out!

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AL's avatar

Oh thanks! Just throw it all in Jesus' lap and wash your hands of any accountability.

You have no idea what's going on--If I am stressed, it's because I live in the real world. You seem to live in Lalaland and are using God as an excuse to be irresponsible and naive. We aren't talking about "worldviews"--we never have been. Our conversation has been limited to facts about Trump. Trump is not a "worldview" thought it sounds like he is yours. God and Trump are not interchangeable, though I can tell you don't see that. As they sayin the South, God Bless you. I say God help you. I'll say a prayer for you too. Don't worry--everyone else will do the heavy lifting.

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AL's avatar

I'm not "being untruthful." It is my opinion and I don't suggest it as fact, rather as evidence over which to THINK. You are getting enraged from TDS and it is clouding your ability to think outside the matrix.

I think it is imperative to keep an open mind and consider all possibilities. This long-term psyop is not simpleminded nonsense that is easily identified. It's layers upon layers upon years and years of psyop events and messaging. A ruling class mafia operative is not going to look like a ruling class operative. He is going to look like the hero who did a lot of good things but, much of what he did do was either smoke and mirrors (ISIS is a deep state construct to begin with so he can look like a hero by "stopping ISIS cold" lol) or irrelevant to the things that really matter. Also, much of what he did was reversed by Biden on day one, so really, what good was it in the sense of the big picture? $5,000 for everyone? What are we? Whores that sell our souls for $5k?

It's not about vaccines "being the most pressing danger we face today" but vaccines remain the catalyst/lynchpin to body sovereignty and sovereignty in general which IS the pressing issue. It was also the clear issue where our own government forced a bioweapon into our arms. I think that's a pressing issue--a huge one. One that Trump has completely sidestepped and ignored. But he gave people $5k. Our hero.

Every single detail and media messaging is planned well in advance. Take a pause and ponder the enormity of this power and control.

You're just not getting it because you are relying desperately on one man to save the world. That IMHO is utterly ridiculous. You're buying into the movie matrix we've all been sold.

Thinking bigger--outside of the old construct, is hard to do.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Body sovereignty and sovereignty in general will certainly be impacted by a demolished economy that makes the Great Depression look like a Sunday picnic. Or by hordes of terrorists, who have swarmed over the southern border and are waiting for the signal to test your manhood.

Man can plan and scheme and you can devote your all to an attempt to decipher the tea leaves and escape the traps. But in the end it is Almighty God who will determine the outcome.

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AL's avatar

Yeah, apples and oranges. And body sovereignty is not "impacted by a demolished economy" the same way as forcing a deadly injection into your arm. Stop trying to negotiate with the truth. You are bargaining--not yet at the stage of acceptance. Your problem, not mine.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Well, getting beheaded by a terrorist would certainly affect your ‘body sovereignty’. We’ve been warned by our own government that terrorists are among us and their locations are not known. There are reports of camps of them in abandoned military and other type facilities. There’s a big one apparently in Texas that’s being watched by concerned citizens, who can’t get any answers from their useless Governor.

You might meet one, or several, face to face at some point.

And of course very dire economic conditions could lead to dying from lack of shelter, safe surroundings or malnutrition. My ‘bodily sovereignty’ lies with God and God alone.

Everyone who was jabbed did it by choice. It may have been a very difficult choice, but it was a

choice. Many people lost their jobs and positions rather than do it. And The pressure was all under Biden.

I had bodily sovereignty and I refused because my spiritual discernment said stay far away.

I suppose you likewise were able to refuse?

So then, what is your game plan? If there is no one who can be trusted to care about America, if we’re all living some delusion; what then do you intend to do?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

So then, what is your game plan? If no one can be trusted, if we’re living a delusion, what do you recommend we all do?

Or maybe there are some you trust. If so, please enlighten us poor deluded ones.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And besides your attempt to bring down President Trump and generally demoralize everyone, what is your grand scheme for defeating the dark forces you fear?

If you claim President Trump wanted ventilators and vaccines and didn’t try to calm all the hysteria before it got to that point; or that he would ever have mandated taking a vaccine, you are less than honest and there is video evidence to prove it.

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AL's avatar

I’m 100% honest. You just don’t like my perspective. Everything I’ve said is accurate but it drastically distorts what you want to believe so you attack me. He still loves the vaccines- loves them. Thinks they’re fantastic and have saved millions of lives instead of killing millions. He has never mentioned this was a military operation. Today I read about a five year old boy who had a heart attack while running. Are you so blind with TDS that you can’t even CONSIDER this might just be one more trap?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Please, please provide me with links to evidence of President Trump saying how much he loves the vaccines.

Maybe watch his speeches, he probably averages at least two, maybe three a week. And they’re all close to 2 hours in length. They’re easy to find; all archived on the RSBN streaming channel. Or if you don’t stream, they’re also at rsbnetwork.com. Like Jesus said of himself, what President Trump says, he says very publicly.

Make note of the topics he talks about. See how seldom anything is said about vaccines.

I think you’d have to go way back to find anything at all.

President Trump is surrounded by information on a number of very serious threats. We exist in a bubble on C&C. Many, many conservatives are still believers that vaccines are a good thing. Education takes time.

Of course I can consider that this could be one more trap. But my spiritual discernment says it’s not. I don’t feel that I’m groping in the dark. I feel the guidance of the Holy Spirit and in 50 years he hasn’t let me down.

And again, since you believe this is a trap, what do you want to see happen?

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WP William's avatar

when has he ever been wrong or admitted he f-d up? It's always everyone else which is great for the first 4 years or so but it is tiresome and one reason a woman files for divorce

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Willing Spirit's avatar

President Trump was right about everything.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Haters will hatefully hate forever and ever, unless they meet Jesus and learn to love.

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AngelaK's avatar

Today I read how bank algorithms are causing banks to close accounts of perfectly legal, normal people and their personal and small business accounts. I am not talking about for millions either! Because of amounts less than 10k! And the bankers cannot help them! The computers trump human reasoning and logic.

This country is getting scarier and scarier by the day.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Well my back went out last week and it gave me a lot of time to reflect on things. I decided as much of a pain as it will be to do it, I’m moving my money from Chase to Frost Bank, in Dallas. Hopefully, the first of many such resolutions to accomplish like buying a handgun, stocking up on water, peanut butter etc!! They’re coming after us after they put Trump in jail and I want to be ready for whatever they have up their sleeve. Whitney Webb is on Dr Mercola. I highly encourage everyone to listen to it.

I mean our USG thinks MAGA people are more of a threat than Hamas!! Are any of us comprehending that? Totally insane.

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Mark St's avatar

All of this and more is important. What is vital is getting to know your neighbors. It's easy to not invest enough time for that part.

Tons of variables depending on where you live, but even a small group of people who have a plan in case of whatever comes down the pike can make all the difference.

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

Why Frost Bank? I'm looking to move savings, too.

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Pluto’s aura's avatar

Small banks are the best. Use two different ones.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

We got a home loan from them to remodel and we had a great experience. When we walked in for the loan closing, they were so kind and so personable, and I’ve never had that from Chase before. Also, I think I mentioned I wanted to bank with a state bank.

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Mrs. Mantle's avatar

Frost Bank based in San Antonio, an excellent local bank that has grown but wisely and not too big. The founder, who passed a couple of years ago, went to my church, the family, too. Great service and responsiveness. You don’t wait on hold forever and the customer service people are native English speakers in the USA.

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CaplT's avatar

Wow! Link?

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AngelaK's avatar

https://nytlicensing.com/stories/LoTWqoLy

'Why banks are suddenly closing down customer accounts '

I read it on Yahoo. Put it into Google. It was originally a New York Times article and as you see, their licensing won't allow access through the link.

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J Boss's avatar

Move your accounts and money to local or regional banks that are not huge. Use cash as much as possible to eliminate record of activity. Back to basics!

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PHILLIP P PETSCHOW's avatar

Don't be surprised if our country is not turned into a all out guerilla fight with Hezbollah like fighters entered via our intentionally opened boarders?

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Butterfly2510's avatar

I totally expect that. I think Whitney Webb or Alex Jones who have both been on Mercola lately said they will burn it all down. Wouldn’t be surprised by that either. DEWS LAHAINA, anyone?

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WP William's avatar

Should our vaunted FBLie, CLieA, and HateLand Security allow, enable, or dismiss such an event as inevitable and unpreventable then they are worthless and need to be defunded and leadership immediately incarcerated and their facilities ransacked for evidence and all employees and contractors detained, harshly and lengthily interrogated for whistleblowing statements. THEY would be AS GUILTY as any criminal killer.

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CStone's avatar

Martial Law, I believe will happen. I really expect some type of Hamas attack on Thanksgiving celebrations in private homes. I pray that I am wrong.

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Fla Mom's avatar

They'll try, but some state laws have been changed back. However, the biggest factor, imho, is whether those of us on the other side will *work* to make sure every conservative is registered to vote (volunteer with your local Republican Party to do this), turns out to vote (volunteer locally if your elections are close, or apply through your local Republican Party to help turn out the vote in close swing states), and that their local elections are run fairly (become a poll worker by applying at your local Supervisor of Elections or, failing that, a poll watcher by applying with your local political party). It wasn't just fraud and cheating that caused the 2020 result, it was that Democrats out-think and out-organize Republicans. Start now.

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Jen's avatar

we're doing it! we flipped our school board conservative by doing all of these things. Let me tell you, it's been hell on earth ever since then though. The Dem's have made life a living hell for us, they chase us into meetings (shouting), they shout down everyone at meetings, they've gotten the media to trash us, they even got state representatives involved. Many of us wrote to them to tell them what was really going on down here. But it's been brutal. Anyway, we're still working on it! We have town council elections tomorrow and me and a girlfriend went around and passed out door knocker flyers this weekend. We're doing it! Not sure how much of an impact we're having, but we're out there!

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Jenn's avatar

Good for you!! You are making change happen, despite how hard it is personally on you. I dearly and deeply commend you!

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Fla Mom's avatar

God bless you all! No matter the outcome, you will have done your part.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

That’s awesome Jen!! 👏👏👏💥💥💥

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Faith Adams's avatar

Don't give up! Keep on fighting. The libs are used to conservatives being unwilling to fight. We can't be that way any longer. May God give you the courage and strength you need to continue the fight.

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Peter GL's avatar

so much for the fair play they want and that the Republicans are insurrectionists

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WP William's avatar

Bullies against Bullying should be their club (and they can bring clubs too). They don't like sharing the stage and limelight, respectful debate and discourse are repugnant to Revolutionaries. They are Marxists and Cultists, they are not open to any other viewpoint or version of truth, we are a threat to the CULT and must be stopped and put into our place out of power and with no say or influence.

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ILoveherbs's avatar

Jen, thank you for taking a stand. Change comes slowly sometimes. You are making a difference!

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

All those things can not combat the weighted computer algorithms.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Yes, the weighted algo’s and the injected phantom ballots, explained in great detail by Jay Valentine in his many pieces at American Thinker or his own site, Omega4America dot com. He was instrumental in creating eBay’s fraud detection program, so he’s no stranger to fraud. Paper ballots, voter ID, one-day voting, count the votes on premises, enforce strict chain of custody. Electronics have no place anywhere near elections!

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

I'm wondering if there is any group devoting themselves *specifically* to that end: "NO ELECTRONICS IN ELECTIONS!"

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@Alice in Wonderland Good question!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

With God all things are possible. We must hope, fast and pray.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

If you haven't noticed, we're kinda under God's judgement right now. Until the COUNTRY turns back to God, I don't expect Him to step in.

2 Chron 7:14

‭2 Chronicles‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭KJV‬

[14] if my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

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CStone's avatar

Mercy rides alongside judgement.

Judgement is discipline, in hopes of turning us to repentance. And TRUE repentance isn’t just saying “I’m sorry, forgive me, I was wrong.”

No.

True repentance is doing all that PLUS turning 180° and walking/doing/obeying HIM. Judgement never rides alone.

Mercy is Judgement’s companion.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’ve noticed. But God is merciful and hears his people even in times of judgment.

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Fla Mom's avatar

In *every* precinct? In *every* county? In *every* swing state? How do you know that, *exactly,* Grammy? And how can I tell the difference between your comment and that of a Democrat plant whose intent is to depress Republican/conservative turnout?

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

It doesn't take "every county" or "every precinct" to throw a federal election. I work our elections, local and national. I KNOW WE follow the rules because none of us want to end up in jail. But, do I know for a fact, after our results were uploaded,, that the counts weren't manipulated? For the county level, yes, I do. But after that, no, I don't and there is no was to double-check. I'm sorry you interpret my comment as from some sort of Democratic plant (Ive followed Jeff for ages), as I'm just stating the FACTS as they've been laid out after the 2020 federal and 2022 midterm elections. The Dominion (or ESS) software shouldn't do anything but COUNT, that's it, yet, their "algorithms" are protected propriety information. If it's just a simple computer program that COUNTS votes for each candidate, what's the NEED for "proprietary algorithms"? Why weren't the voting machines checked after 2020? Why were some machines connected to the internet? Why did "computer techs" come in during the elections in swing states and "do maintenance"? These voting machines have been used in other countries to throw elections, not just the US. Venezuela was. Electronics have NO place in elections.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Exactly!!!!

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WP William's avatar

AT&T Building Nashville, Christmas morning 2020; presto FBI Operation Cleansweep. What evidence???

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

That's right! I had forgotten about that "explosion"! Did they ever say what the "cause" was?

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Alice in Wonderland's avatar

I'm wondering if there is any group devoting themselves *specifically* to bringing that about: "NO ELECTRONICS IN ELECTIONS!"

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Fla Mom's avatar

I'm not calling you a plant. I'm pointing out that there is zero difference between what you say and what a Dem plant would say in order to reduce Republican/conservative turnout. I studied warfare as part of my career, and you are making a dangerous tactical error. If you can fix something about an election system before a few months from now, when voting starts, go for it. If you can't, what good is telling your own side that their vote doesn't count, when it might indeed count very much in a particular location, which you admit you have zero visibility on? Don't hamstring your own side; probably the first rule of warfare. The time to work on election laws and changes in machinery or procedures has ended for this cycle. Start on that work on the day after Election Day 2024. Our task right now is to engage the citizenry to be as smart as the Democrats, who routinely out-think and out-organize us.

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John Bugni's avatar

That's why I don't think we will have an election in 2024. The White Hats won't allow it. The coming trial of Trump in Georgia will allow "discovery" and public testimony under oath which will expose the corruption for all to see. Then we will see martial law by the White Hats in the military, who are currently running the government, and thus will begin the Reformation of our Republic back to Constitutional rule rather than the illigitimate corporation of 1878, which was dissolved by President Trump in 2018. This will cause social upheaval and financial distress and it will be a bumpy ride, the "gets worse before it gets better", but we will be on the road to recovery. And God will be in charge using God-fearing men and women.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

"martial law by the White Hats in the military, who are currently running the government," ...Well, they're doing a bang-up job 👍...and they also have the blood of millions of people on their hands. I know, I know...Trust the Plan and all that. Have you heard of the Bolsheviks use of Opertation Trust during the 1920's Russian Revolution?

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John Bugni's avatar

No, I'll check it out. I've done alot of resesrch on the current "trust the plan" and I've seen enough to believe it's highly likely.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Let’s keep an eye on this one.

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Peter GL's avatar

Somebody had said the winners are not chosen by the voters but by those who count the votes

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Fla Mom's avatar

We can either give up - hey, why not just commit suicide, if everything's that bad - or freaking fight back! Use the tools the Founders left to us, which they had *none of,* yet won. Did Trump win in 2016, or was that my imagination?

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Peter GL's avatar

Of course he won in the ballot box but lost at the count. Whatever the situation suicide is NEVER the solution

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Fla Mom's avatar

2016, I said, not 2020. So it's not impossible. Of course suicide is not a solution, but some of the commenters here and elsewhere might as well check out now, for all the fight they show - "woe is me, algorithms, machines, cheating!" They claim all is lost, instead of working to show that it isn't. It wasn't in 2016; it isn't now.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Question Fla mom. Because you are involved in election matters. My daughter is special needs. Cognitive disabled. The courts in Florida when we got guardianship only requirement was that she retain her right to vote. 🙄 Seriously. We were taking all her rights away but that is the one that concerned them. Whatever. She is not cognitively able to make a decision or understand anything about any of this. We can legally go stand in the booth and tell her how to vote and probably help her fill in the circles. But it seems very wrong. So we haven’t had her vote. We know people who do it for their special needs kid/adult. Then we think about all the braindead sheep who don’t know their butt from a hole in the ground and yet they vote. Is it really okay for us to basically cast a vote for her when she doesn’t understand it since the court said she can vote? We struggle with this ethically. Just wondering your thoughts.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I think you know the answer already. If you were facing Jesus himself, and he asked you that exact question, "Is it okay for you to cast a vote for her," what would you say? And on worldly grounds, I don't think Florida statutes, at least, allow the person who accompanies a voter to do the actual voting (even if the 'voter' is the one bubbling in the circles).

I've looked now, and the statute doesn't seem to say that, exactly, but it does use language that presupposes that the voter is the one who wants to vote, who requests the assistance, and that the assistance is largely physical, not anything to do with the content of the vote. It's hard enough for me to figure out how to vote the judicial elections or the constitutional amendments; I can't imagine figuring it out without being fully compos mentis.

What you say is concerning about the many others who are similarly cognitively impaired. One might wonder if they are a target population for election cheaters, similar to the way it was done in Racine County, Wisconsin, in 2020.

https://dos.fl.gov/elections/for-voters/voting/accessible-voting-for-persons-with-disabilities/

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks for that, and for the link too! That was interesting. We’ve never even looked it up because we’ve never seriously considered her voting.

It seemed so ridiculous that the lawyer representing her in the guardianship proceedings was adamant that she retain her right as a citizen to vote. The judge and our lawyer had no qualms about it. They KNEW she is cognitively incapable of casting a vote on her own. So it left us wondering - how do they expect her to go into the booth alone and vote when they are taking away her right to handle her finances and medical decisions, she can’t legally enter into a contract of any kind, or make her own housing choices….. BUT she can cast votes! 🤦🏼‍♀️

And based on the link you sent we cannot go help her in the very way she would need help. But the courts seem perfectly fine with that.

Which is why we wondered if there was someway they were able to cheat using this information too.

It’s so crazy. We are still floored by all this.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I wonder what your Supervisor of Elections would say to your question. I know mine on a first-name basis, because I live in a rural community centered on a small town. Yours may be more difficult to contact, but you could call the office and just ask the person who answers the phone. Take notes, and then if it seems reasonable you could contact your state Representative and Senator (via their staff by phone, or by letter) to see if you could get anyone interested in changing the law.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That’s a great idea. I would love to go ask about this. Thanks! If I find anything out I’ll let you know.

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WP William's avatar

Far too MANY Conservatives and Republicans are quitters, uninvolved and deniers, detached and calloused, waiting for someone to come for their guns so they can fire off a round or 20, who the hell would want to try to inspire defeatists and loners who don't do anything but complain and have zero vision except doomsday?? It's exhausting to push a broke down car uphill but i will keep trying. There's $$$ and stroke and glam to be had in the Dem ranks--selling their souls for the success of dismantling decency and ripping the robes off of Justice while the world burns and people are enslaved

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Lew's avatar

Most of those poll results are probably within the margin of error and if you add Biden and Trump totals, there are enough probable independents to determine the winner. Anyway, polls one year before election don't mean much.

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Alison Smith's avatar

The polls are all fake numbers too.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Used to manipulate us further. I refuse to look at the numbers on any “poll” from either side. It’s all lies and made up. The sooner the population gets that the better off we’ll be.

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Carrie's avatar

Also remember presidential elections are 50 separate state elections, so nationwide polling also does not reveal the entire truth.

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!

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Politico Phil's avatar

There is no question, the Democrat Bolsheviks WILL cheat again in an attempt to retain power over the will of the people. If they dump Biden, they will bring someone like Newsome on board to replace him with. Theirs is not a personality cult. They are a fascist cult and they WILL do everything they can to retain power and finish their takeover of America. They will cheat and they will cheat even more effectively as they have done in each national election cycle of 2018, 2020 and 2022. If Trump miraculously gets elected, it will only be because there was such a massive revolt among all strata of American society against everything the fascists have done to this country. The 2024 election fraud will go down in the history books. The only question is whether or not the American people let them get away with it.

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Alison Smith's avatar

I think Republican state legislatures have been changing voting laws to make sure people use photo ID and to abolish ballot boxes. Some states did it in 2021 and Ohio is finally getting around to it now. That should cut down on the rampant fraud. Plus I think the military can intercept and stop the WiFi voting flips by blocking WiFi signals. I think thats how trump won to being with in 2016. The military put a kabosh on the digital vote flips. Because all of the media knew ahead of time Hillary would win. Then they were in utter shock. The military is sworn to protect our constitution.

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CStone's avatar

And yet the va/xsheen was a DOD operation. It could be the old guard military was for the American people, but sister General Milley has pretty much cured the military of its patriotism and culled almost men of integrity out.

Milley is retiring this December, but who will the puppets appoint to that position? Biden will still be falsely labeled as ‘p-Resident’

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@Alison Smith please please please let that be true 🙏🏻

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

It should be obvious that these stories in politico and nyt are still planted to shape a narrative - propaganda. The only question is what. Could they be pushing for a 2nd DJT presidency in order to have a “conservative” take the fall when they finally collapse the financial system and all of western civilization with it?

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Pluto’s aura's avatar

Nah. The system has been serving this group of leeches too well.

There is a need to stoke fear in every Dem that orange man bad is the real bogeyman and he’ll be back. Trying to motivate people to get out and mobilize.

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

I think they've sucked about as much out of the current system as they can.

No western government is financially solvent and so cannot provide the retirement benefits long promised. This is the reason for the C19 deathvax, to get rid of us retired useless eaters.

The system is on the verge of collapse. In their hubris, the psychopaths in charge think they can control the destructive outcome.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Exactly.

The Democrats/CIA know that they can just cheat again.

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JJ Chester's avatar

If we have learned anything about election fraud, it is that the damage is done and irreparable even before it can be proven, and there is no viable remedy. So, expect the usual players to be plying their trade during the 2024 election month.

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GG's avatar

I keep asking myself why any of this matters. It's not like they're going to hold honest elections. They know we all know. What's the point of the charade?

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Alison Smith's avatar

And that is why they are so smug. They know that we know and they know they will do it again.

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John Bugni's avatar

See my post above

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NofloChick's avatar

My personal opinion is that the left is going to throw Biden under the bus because they don’t need him anymore and Gavin Newsom is going to run instead.

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DianeKay88's avatar

I completely understand your apprehension.

I too am very concerned that the 2024 election will be nothing more than déjà vu relevant to the 2020 election.

Proof of ID via a DL, with a current address, that also matches what the county records show, or SS Card and paper-ballot voting in tandem with voting in person is a robust methodology for preventing the fraud that occurs with mail-in and absentee ballots.

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Lisa Liberty's avatar

We expect the cheating, we are looking for it. Big difference! Mail in ballots are highly questionable and some states have eliminated them. It’s going to take a whole lot of cheating this time around. Stopping the count and having a two week long election probably won’t fly this time!

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PHILLIP P PETSCHOW's avatar

China is courting Newsome, the mainstream media will make Newsome look like a saint, overall I think Trump's record normally would prevail, but think will have to many politicians we cant trust to do the moral thing! We also have no rule of law and the FBI And DOJ are so corrupt!

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John Bugni's avatar

Allison, I believe there is a plan to prevent that. The corruption in the 2020 election is being exposed. The trial in Georgia on President Trump's supposed election interference will provide for "discovery" and there will be testimony of the real election interference. It will be a blockbuster show.

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Alison Smith's avatar

I hope you are right. Do you know “Follow the Data with Dr. Frank?” He is a mathematician who has been touring the country about how the election vote results in 2020 were mathematically impossible. We just need discovery in one court case to show the country what really happened.

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SB's avatar

Driving this morning heard radio news guy mention the local races in elections today but bring your ID to vote. Hallelujah! Finally! Now we need to stop ballot harvesting…

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Fla Mom's avatar

If ballot harvesting is legal in your state, then you need to ballot-harvest until you can make it illegal again. Don't give your enemy a weapon you refuse to use. Would it be better if it were illegal? Yes! But if it's legal, use it to win.

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RG Short's avatar

100% 🎯

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