So, let's say the SG doesn't have any real power. Why nominate someone who invokes such negative feelings? Trumpy can't find a neutral, plain vanilla place holder for the position? I'll do it. What's it pay? On second thought, would I have to move to D.C.? If yes, then I'm out.
I doubt Lapado will ever have a chance at a Trump appointment because of his anti Covid shot stance. Lapado warned people of the dangers of the jab to save lives and prevent permanent injuries. Lapado could be an embarrassment to Trump.
Trump still tells people his vaxx saved hundreds of millions of lives 😂🤣😂 That’s probably why he chose Nesheiwat because she was pro-jab, but anti mandate. She’s loyal to Trump in the way he needs people to be loyal to him.
Well... start writing and posting on X. I think it was the Daily Wire...?... some email I got a few days ago said there is a group amassing to protest it... not sure how. Write your Senator -- mine is Pelosi --she'd be happy to go against Trump.. lol
I think we have to allow for the possibility that there is a lot of horse-trading and strategizing that has to go into his picks that need approval. He is still fighting the entrenched NeoCons who essentially control both parties. I'm in a wait and see mode since the election is over anyway.
That’s what is supposed to happen. Getting out of the my side/your side = 0. Plus dictators don’t act like President Trump is acting. This is a good thing IMO.
She is supposedly sister in law to National security adviser: Mike Waltz. Maybe she was not allowed to speak her mind, since she was working as TV doctor. I think that we can trust Mike to speak out if she was on the other side.
Just like the Senate giving the rino Susan Collins a plumb committee leadership position. Maybe a deal was made with her for her vote to put through Trump’s pics?
As I wrote below: Does the Surgeon General actually have any real power? I just remember the guy with the beard and fancy name under Reagan and the idiot black woman Clinton had who talked about masturbation... Beyond that, do these people do anything other than PR stuff???
Maybe that's the point. Just to shit on all the people who voted for him, making it perfectly clear that what the people want is utterly unimportant compared to however much Pfizer is paying Trump this time around.
Yet through some twisted logic, the "signal" of nominating RFK Jr. for HHS, Marty Makary for the FDA, and Dave Weldon for the CDC (all stellar picks) don't matter.
Strange how with you the "signal" only ever matters when it can be used to criticize Trump.
Point completely missed. And non-sensical too since the Surgeon General is figurehead position with no real power. Those other roles actually have authority as the executive leadership positions of massive government agencies. They will be in place to make real changes in government policy unlike the dopey Surgeon General.
Trump is owned by another entity that hates us too. He speaks a good game and is not what we think. That story he told about the snake resonates with me but who/what is the snake?
A certain attorney we all know and love mayyyy have put a bug in the ear of the attorney(s) who won the case against mask mandates in our fave plump, lying liar, Fani Willis’ county.
No, there is no possible "change" sufficient short of openly calling for a ban on the mRNA because of the massive numbers of deaths and injuries it has obviously caused.
She has a sister named Julia. I copied this from Grok on X because I asked the question about it.
“Julia, is Michael Waltz's wife Julia Nesheiwat. She is a combat veteran who has served in various national security roles across multiple presidential administrations, including those of Bush, Obama, and Trump. She was most recently Trump's Homeland Security Advisor.”
No, we need to give things a chance to evolve! He is fighting incredible odds to get anything done, and some “horse-trading” is inevitable. We cannot possibly expect him to succeed in every area, and it would be a huge mistake, IMO to turn on everything we don’t (think) we like.
I don't care about every area. I care about stopping the death jabs and bringing justice to the people who committed the worst crime in human history, people like Pfauci.
That should be the top priority of everyone on earth, so that we cannot get massacred again at the whim of Pfauci, Bourla, et al.
You sound like “big honey” also known as Michael Yon. The only thing you need to know is that Rachel Levine is the current surgeon, Gen. How much influence did he have on public health??? If you think this guy who believes in sex changes for children and dresses like some very ugly lady had a lot of influence with people and maybe we got a problem but otherwise we should be fine. Let RFK Junior take care of it.
I am too. The question is do you think he had any major impact on public health???
I don’t. He is not a good person. He’s evil. I saw somebody say something about maybe this female doctor as a pediatrician. No, it’s Levine. That is the pediatrician. Could you imagine taking your child to that creep? I can’t I’m a retired nurse who once worked in public health among other fields and there is no way that man would have ever had any impact on public health then.
I met him when he was still married, with one child at the time. He was married to our academic dean's daughter and they were visiting her. He was a big nothing, nothing special or interesting about him. Yes, he is a pediatrician from either State College or Hershey if I remember correctly. Now has two children. How awful for them.
You can't possibly believe that Trump got to this place with his 5-D chess and is unaware of the repercussions of this sell out for SG? We need to let Trump DO what he's qualified to do and see what plays out. Covid was a PUBLIC attack. To fully undo it with the "not paying attention" crowd (and there are many of those on both sides), Trump has to fully discredit it PUBLICALLY. I, for one, think it's going to be amazing to watch!
NO! Trump is proving right now that he will never criticize his beloved poison injections. He even lied about their efficacy yet again in the Nesheiwat announcement itself, which he would not have done if he had the slightest intention of telling the truth, ever.
Trump has obviously screwed over his base with this. He did it after getting our votes, maybe just to say "Suckers!"
And I'm pretty sure he's about to do the same thing to RFK, who was either a sucker to trust Trump, or is proving himself to have no integrity about the death jabs. Either way it's very bad news.
And I'm worried about the RINO's in the Senate. It looks like they are setting the stage to oppose everything MAGA. That's going to infuriate conservatives. And why hasn't Mitch McConnell retired?! He looks worse than Biden at this point.
Heard on the radio last night that Pelosi, 84, has filed to run again. Their question was 'Why don't they just back off and give younger candidates room?'
The hubris. No kidding 84?and running again? CA or not. Maybe shes banking on few people left in San Fran that actually give a sh*t. I'm glad I can still be shocked by this stuff.
Funny…Pelosi and sh*t in the same sentence. San Francisco has to clean the 8 blocks from her house to the Opera so she does not have to see the sh*t and the homeless and the druggies that her policies have caused and continue to perpetuate. Talk about a clueless, dishonest politician. Go California. Your continual support for the Pelosi Mob Family tells the rest of the country everything we need to know about California, Pelosi, and her nephew, Gavin Newsome.
Pelosi won't go until she is removed in a coffin. Remember how Sen. Dianne Feinstein "stayed in office" throughout at least a couple of years of dementia.
Now that they have a notch in their belts from the Gaetz controversy (over which I think Trump folded like a bad suit), they just might be feeling their oats and go for Gabbard, RFK, and particularly Hegseth. I don't like the trajectory here.
Oh I don't think Trump folded at all! I think it was a fake from the beginning. Trump ended up with the rights to appoint FOUR Federal judges that the Dems would have appointed. And Gaetz is holding out for a different position in the admin. I saw it mentioned the other day but can't remember the position. This is why he's not returning to the 119th Congress.
+1. You would think by now ppl would give a little, uh, grace. Especially on a conservative, religious Stack. They've been right about so much and the naysayers proven wrong so many times, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson.
Possibly DeSantis will appoint him to the senate to fill Marco Rubio's spot and then Trump can appoint Gaetz to the Senate. I still think he would have been more effective as the AG. He knows where the bodies are buried; I'm not sure that Bondi has that skill set.
I agree...Gaetz was a piece of red meat he threw out there so they could go hysterical and think they had a victory in denying one of Trump's people....and perhaps lay off of other of his appointments.
Perhaps we all need to take a deeeeep breath and slowly exhale...does this merit a 24-48 hour hover & hold period or should we just give it 7 days? Patience is warranted.
I didn't vote for any of these clowns, and am just sitting back and watching the fallout. It's pretty fascinating. I kept reminding folks during election season that Trump is still proud of Operation Warp Speed. They couldn't/wouldn't hear it. Now they are aghast (baffled?) when Trump gets back in bed with the vaxxers? I suppose they will justify it by claiming "Trump has to get along with everyone" - lol. That's what they used to say when Obama filled his cabinet with neocons, Citibanksters, and Goldman Sachs.
Remember when I remarked how weird it was that all of us C&C-ers were brought together by our opposition to the Deathvax but most of us absolutely*worshipped* the man who bragged about Operation Warp Speed being his "greatest accomplishment"?
Everyone here assured me that he had learned his lesson.
Agreed. The RINOS will not go quietly into that good night. They are going to go kicking and screaming. I despise Collins, Murkowski and O'Connell (I'm sure there are others).
If Mattis, McMaster and the other high-ranking goofballs make their return we'll know. I want to give Trump and his advisors the benefit of the doubt at this point. His election victory shows that he understands the game. My hope is that there's a strategy involved with these nominations given that the nomination process with appointments like Kennedy and Gabbard is going to be difficult. There are too many RINOs and DNC allies in congress whose only interest is self-preservation and blocking Trump's efforts.
I agree 100%. I am trying to stay positive and not get all worked up at this point. As Jeff likes to say Trump is playing 4D chess. Let’s see what happens. He’s not stupid. He knows how people feel and o don’t think he’s going to appoint a bunch of pharma shills. Bobby has his ear and the transition team all has input into who might get nominated.
Clearly a paid troll of some sort. No one posts the same comment that much unless they are being paid by the comment. More importantly, have people not figured out that Trump argued to remove the mrna vaccines from the market? The vaccines were only allowed to be on the market due to emergency use authorization, which meant no other effective pre-existing treatments could exist. So, when Trump argued for alternative, existing therapies (like hydroxychloroquine and others) he was, in effect, arguing to pull the vaccines.
No, just normal chess. Pretty typical approach in corporate America, where you can't directly make many claims w/o setting off fire alarms with the various gov't agents (aka HR) and whiny always "offended" crowd. So, you have to make your case in a more circuitous way. Leaders in large corporations do this all the time.
Either way, he made arguments for other existing treatments, which has the same effect as arguing to remove the vaccines. He also paid a heavy price for it, many times over.
LOL. Way to take my words out of context and quote only the part you wanted. As I said, when he argued for alternative therapies - which he did, repeatedly - it was in effect an argument to take the vaccines off the market. If there were any other existing effective drugs, the mrna shots could legally not be on the market. Simply the facts. Move along.
👍🏼 I agree LuAnne. When a person posts the same message this many times it becomes noise (and seemingly an agenda they are promoting ) and I ignore and skip over them.
I like to think I put principles (like the right to choose what goes into your own bloodstream) above people.
I'm for Trump the degree that he aligns with good principles and opposed to the degree that he does not. Right now, he looks like he sold out to Pfizer.
Apparently she has a connection to Michael Waltz. She's supposedly his sister in law. Trump should've made Ladapo head of HHS and the RFK jr at CDC or FDA. She was all for censorship and masking when it counted while Ladapo was busting narratives.
And yet Tulsi was a WEF young leader and nobody seems concerned about her. I’m much more concerned about that then the SG. Though I agree with the naysayers here. RFK gives me hope. Death jab dealers in positions of power chill my blood.
As am I. All I know is what I saw on tv when she pushed the clot shots. Has she had a change of heart? If so, why do we not see her aligned and speaking with the medical dissidents like McCullough, Kory, Malone, etc.? What's almost worse is that Trump's announcement of her appointment praises Operation Warp Speed "saved hundreds of thousands of lives." Wow. What is going on here?
I wrote this in another Substack Author’s comment section, edited today: Dr. Janette Neishewat, recently stated the following which President Trump then Truthed out on his platform on November 17th: "We're coming up on the five year anniversary of Covid, and if you recall, under President Trump's leadership, we had incredible public health policies. President Trump's unparalleled creation of Operation Warp Speed was one like we've never seen before!"
The Doc stated it, Trump amplified it, and a week later she was nominated for Surgeon General. Yes, he advocated for some OTC remedies, but still promoting OWS? Yikes. 😬
Surgeon General has always been a hood ornament position, imo.
Dr. Janette Nesheiwat is the sister inlaw to Mike Waltz from FL and Trump’s nat'l security advisor nominee. His wife is her sister. I also read Nesheiwat owns several urgent care facilities in NYC so maybe there's some other connection.
Surgeon Generals don't have policy powers so it makes me wonder if Trump threw a bone to somebody. Who knows.
It will be people like RFK Jr over HHS (CDC, FDA, etc) that will have the policy making powers. I have no clue why Trump would pick such a covid misinformation freak for SG but considering how low this position is on the power structure, I'm not wasting time worrying about it.
IDK. I think she's just a shill who will say whatever her bosses tell her to say. Her bosses told her to say vaccines were great and masks worked, so she she said it. She doesn't seem like an intelligent sort of person who has well-thought-out views of her own. And...RFK Jr. is about to be one of her bosses, and was likely consulted on her nomination.
At this point, I've doubted DJT so many times and have been proven wrong over and over, that I'm just going to give him and his team the benefit of the doubt. Whoever is advising him now is WAY ahead of whoever was advising him after the 2016 election. Maybe there is a method to this.
E.g., could it be that she is the key to breaking through to the vaccine-addicted crowd? She's one of them (in their eyes), so would have more credibility than, say, Ladapo, in changing their minds. Hotez' approval of her could come back to bite all of them in the behind. That's just one example of how this might be a good pick. But, IDK. Just giving DJT and RFK the benefit of the doubt here.
With the nomination of Nesheiwat and continued praise for the death jab, Trump is telling you to your face that he really doesn't give a shit what you or any of his voters think.
Harpy, cranky, bilious, even bloviating today. Let him stay? Non-virulent case of TDS, grudging Trump voter, big-league Trump fan, whatever works if they make me laugh or think.
So, when you say, “telling you to your face,” you don’t mean he literally said, “[I don’t] give a shit what you or any of [my] voters think.” Is that correct?
Trump doesn’t have a good track record of selecting level-headed medical consultants. Remember that he brought in Birx for covid. She had ties to Fauci and HIV vaccine development failures.
I wonder if she represents a political version of the grocery store strategy of "Loss leader". Mr. Trump may plan to provide her with little real power.
Johnny-O, Juju, and patrick, I love you, but that’s ridiculous. You’re all smarter than that. Even if we dismiss what he’s proven as a father, developer, and entertainer, becoming one of only 40 elected presidents in 235 years is a massive accomplishment. Count shutting down ISIS, starting no wars, putting three conservatives on the Supreme Court, and growing a booming economy in the face of four years of warfare and two impeachments. Add dodging two assassination attempts and hanging in to win a second election—a third if we count right. Then add nominating a full cabinet of pretty impressive people six weeks ahead of taking office. If the complaint is he hasn’t confessed getting duped by the deep state that duped the world, we’re not even talking about proving accomplishments.
There are a lot of positive things to point out as you note. However, these threads are not short of people praising and nearly idolizing Trump. I come to lay relevant and valid criticisms. Even if I truly like a politician (which is extremely rare) I still end up largely criticizing them. That is our job as citizens as they are supposed to work for us. If we just fall in line, we continue to get shat on by our politicians.
And, I don't see Trump's OWS as being duped. I would be shocked if he didn't know what was going on, and if he didn't only a moron would trust big pharma swamp creatures. Sorry that sounds harsh, but that is where I am at when rubber hits the road. Not mincing words.
Yes, and THIS is the time to prove himself by finally admitting what everyone on earth who did even a little bit of research or watched people die from the jab knows:
The death jabs are horribly dangerous and worse than ineffective, making everyone who takes them and manages to survive _more_ likely to get seriously ill, not less.
And why? Just exactly how much power does the Surgeon General wield? Let Mr. Trump do his work. He is playing a level of chess that most of us cannot begin to fathom. Just chill and let it play out.
Hold your horses: Does the Surgeon General actually have any real power? I just remember the guy with the beard and fancy name under Reagan and the idiot black woman Clinton had who talked about masturbation... Beyond that, do these people do anything other than PR stuff???
Well, the Indian fellow seemed to be a mouthpiece that sent recommendations out to state entities for their lockdowns, their mandatory jobs, etc. But they mostly relied on the CDC and FDA for ongoing (and printed) guidelines.
Any soft-spoken, warm-hearted, upright human being would work.
I wonder why Trump didn't nominate Ben Carson in 2017. If he's still on his hind legs, he'd be the easiest confirmation ever and the first black, male, authentically intelligent SG in a long time.
Me too!!! And Trumps letter, releasing that news! Wth?!? He’s still bragging about Operation Warp Speed! 🤬 As if the DOD didn’t already have those generic therapies ready.. Somebody needs to straighten him out!!
I think he learned quick to not tout OWS at rallies. Maybe showing it off draws some ever-vaxxer loyalty. Sounds like an unlikely slice of the electorate, but we're living in strange days. Regardless, I don’t see any upside at this point for him to say he was wrong. Plenty of people already blame him for the vaxxed dead and medically compromised. Must be quite the politically ticklish pinch. I think he should just shut up about it and pour all he can into remedies.
Jeff, it was your Letter to Pastors during COVID that brought me to you. I hope you’ll connect that letter to what TD Jakes did in pushing the DeathVax. Please write us a “compare and contrast” post.
BTW, your George Washington smallpox rebuttal was brilliant. You’re a national treasure.
Do you have a link to the letter? The silence by our faith leaders in the face of Covid tyranny really turned me off to our church. I’d like to forward it to our rector even if it’s dated. Thank you!
My priest didn't get vaxxed, would not push it at all on the parishioners, refused to mandate it on the staff and went to genuinely amazingly lengths to work around restrictions on our parish imposed from above. All priests and all pastors are not the same.
You're lucky. Some in our diocese said it was a moral imperative and further would not assist parishioners in obtaining religious exemptions. Covid is not the only area of compromise. How many homilies do you hear on immigration and "welcoming the stranger" yet none on protecting the unborn? How many times have you heard about "accompanying the LGBTQ community" after shaming you to "remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from your neighbor's eye?" Social justice, or "woke" ideology is infiltrating Christian churches on every level and in the Catholic church it is particularly evident in the views of "lay pastoral associates" who lead discussion groups and organize education and outreach sessions. And, yes, as Maxstirner says, the "popeness" did support COVID shots saying to receive one was an "act of love" while the papal COVID advisory board went further and said it was a "moral obligation" to get vaccinated.
If you go to the bottom of the article below where you would click to go into the comment section it’s right there along with a couple other posts of his. It’s called:
I WAS VERY VOCAL about the Covid vaxx when it became a “thing”. Many friends and neighbors turned their backs on me because I felt it was too new to jump on-board. Some of my neighbors still flaunt that they just got their 5th vaxx, waiting for me to say something, but I no longer say anything. If I did say something, it would be “Are you nuts?!” One neighbor told me I was right because her doctor told her NOT to get another Covid vaccine. Each time she did, she wound up in the hospital and almost died of a heart attack twice! Another neighbor told me she was getting the flu shot and her Covid booster, and then said to me “Oh, you don’t believe in anything like that…” So glad I have a reputation! One neighbor is no longer here because she passed away from a sudden heart attack recently, and yes, she was one who actually had hatred for me because she knew where I stood. I take no pleasure in being right. But I am happy I saw through all the bs. Instincts are a wonderful thing! Pay attention to that inner voice, even if the world is against you. It saves lives.
I was very vocal too. I don’t regret it either. My kids were in college and didn’t want to take it but they were going into graduate school and the push was on all around them. I am grateful that so far they have not had any problems. I did give them the jab protocol stuff.
Btw I find it interesting that when I search Substack’s main search box for the exact title of this post, it does not appear in results. (But if I search the C&C page it does.) It feels like SS’ algorithm suppresses some dissident articles. I also notice I get unsubscribed from C&C from time to time for no reason (unrelated to posting any comments). Strange.
Same. I get automatically cancelled from my subscription to A Midwestern Doctor too. It’s annoying. I only realize it when suddenly I can’t read an entire article and then I go look and it states I’m a free subscriber only. I’ve never once canceled on my end. 😂 AMD has a powerful reach too so I often wonder if SS does it on purpose.
Yes isn’t that odd? It’s especially strange given you have a paid subscription. I have many free subscriptions so I don’t always notice I’ve been unsubscribed from an author until I see a post appear in Notes and realize I didn’t receive the post in my inbox. Either the technology is faulty or there is some type of suppression, either reason is disappointing. Btw I too find AMD to be a very enlightening Substack, one of the best. Well good luck and happy reading (hopefully)!
Star Parker has a similar approach relating abortion to slavery via the Dred Scott case in her congressional testimony. Watch until the end (its less than 6 min in total): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbU9P60YW4E
Friend went to urgent care for a knee injury a few days ago. She wore a mask…🙄 The nurse who saw my friend told her how useless the mask was, we never should have been locked down, stupid churches should not have closed, on and on. Finally a healthcare professional saying what we all know. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Guaranteed we all tried. Still trying actually. I lost 4 friendships of over 25 years and the one who is still associating with me absolutely 💯 believes the shot is fabulous and will keep taking it. Refuses to even look at a single study. 🤷♀️ we still get together occasionally but she is convinced that I’m delusional. And darn if we didn’t feel all alone until we found C&C!
I have to allow others to be responsible for their own actions. So vaxxed folks… we tried we are still trying. We only had info that was available to everyone. No secret manifest.
Perhaps my aunt calling me a “selfish baby killer” and telling my sister that she was “unclean” and therefore had to sit outside at thanksgiving silenced me a bit but I did keep trying and I didn’t cut her out of my life and I still love her. What more could we do? Sorry so long! 🙁 thx for the comment Tonya.. I think being able to reply to you was a smidge therapeutic for me 😊
I have continued to try--albeit very delicately. But cousin, who has (proudly?) taken 5 "of the shots" responds to me "In what universe have you been living?"[I think I had dared to refer to the "scamdemic"]. Would you be surprised to learn that she is a dedicated reader of/listener to NYT, WaPo, NPR?
All of this makes me think, though—why is it that it’s always *someone else’s* fault or responsibility with these people?? Never their own?? They couldn’t just do what we did, and inform *themselves*?? Why do they always think it’s up to someone else to inform them or tell them what to do? They NEVER seem to want to take responsibility for anything! 🙄
My husband and I got the very first shots that April 2021. I had just been through several tragedies in the prior 3-4 years and then needed a life saving surgery later that year, so I had not been following the news at all and didn’t have much contact with anyone outside our home. Luckily after my surgery I started to take charge of my health and that’s when I started to learned what I needed to. We never got any boosters. I didn’t learn enough in time to stop my youngest from getting one booster required by his university early in 2022 but I did learn soon enough to prevent him from getting any more. I never blamed anyone for our not knowing. I followed what I heard from my doctors without question. I “could” blame them if I wanted to, and I suppose they are somewhat to blame, but ultimately it was both my husband and my own fault for not finding the time to think/question/research. I have valid excuses for why I couldn’t, but he really doesn’t. Still, neither of us blame the other or anyone else. We blame ourselves and our own stupid, trusting, naivety at the time. It feels awful sometimes to look back at that, but I can feel better knowing I’m not that same person today and never will be again.
Or it could be that they are deliberately poking the bear to provoke these responses from us. I suspect they are playing games because how can anyone be SO stupid, but then again the victim mentality can be debilitating. Maybe their brains are fried. I literally laughed out loud at the audacity of the article.
I lost at least half of my 1000 fb friends over speaking out. I stood freezing my butt off for hours in 20 degree weather holding signs on overpasses to stop the mandates. I disagreed with anyone who would listen. These people truly are insane.
I was reading an interview with Naomi Wolf and Dr. McCoullough. He said at a medical conference recently he and a colleague were at to present their clot shot death paper, a doctor came up to his colleague afterwards and said he had five shots in his arm and could no longer raise it, but said if a booster came out he'd just get it in his other arm. Mind boggling.
I too stood on the corners with my American flag with others. We were cheered and flipped off but we stood! We showed up with hundreds of others with our stacks of $20’s for our trucker rally’s. I have zero regrets! Well done STH! 👍
Not to mention all the "news" people saying the unjabbed should be banned from all public/social life, that the unjabbed should not be allowed to go anywhere in public including the grocery store, the doctor's office, or the hospital!
Here in Covidistan (WA state), we were not allowed to go to any restaurant, library, museum, theater, ball game, concert, etc. because a vax card was required for entrance. The Mr. missed out on attending Seahawks & Mariners games with his brothers because of those illegal & unConstitutional mandates. 😡😠
I missed out on my 50th College Reunion--the more poignant because 2 generations before me-- 5 women (not so many women took an A.B. in 1906 and 1914), and 2 in generation under me were alumnae--because only the vaxxed could attend. My daughter represented four generations of MHC women.
I am so sorry you missed out on your reunion. What a wonderful legacy for the women in your family! It is just so infuriating!
Early on, I tended to focus on people unable to be with family members while they were dying in hospitals and then unable to have/attend funerals. One of my grandmas passed away 3 weeks shy of her 100th birthday. No funeral, just some family members gathered in a living room. The weddings, new babies, bridal and baby showers. The graduations missed. Birthdays, celebrations of all kinds (other grandma turned 100 and we were "allowed" to drive past the care facility while she sat in her wheelchair on the sidewalk). And now, high school and college reunions.
We must never forget and must keep reminding others of what actually happened.
She was amazing - most people at our church considered her their "grandma"! The sanctuary would have been packed to the rafters, but of course the church was closed due to "King" Inslee's mandates. I am still having trouble forgiving church leaders for not standing up for the congregation's right to assemble, like Pastor Artur Pawlowski (sp?) in Canada. Pretty sure there aren't any Bonhoeffers in WA state.
When I read the AFRU.com article, my first thoughts were it was tongue in cheek. Then read in the ABOUT section of AFRU, it said, "Science is true". And for kickers it said [AFRU] is "Karen Controlled. Absolutely"
No dates on anything is a turn off which makes go down its all fake.
Regarding Trump, plenty of character flaws I can look past, but the one that troubles me the most is he never apologizes, never admits a mistake. Has anyone ever heard him admit a mistake in judgement? He will never admit that the jabs were horrific. It is beyond his capacity to admit this fact. On the other hand, who would?
I wonder if part of it is about being sued. It seems like people others at the drop of a hat. If I was his lawyer, I expect would tell him to move forward and not say anything because it will not change the past. However, he is given an opportunity to right some wrongs and let’s see if he goes after Fauci and the rest of them.
Your welcome. Unfortunately Covid wasn’t one of the mistakes he admitted making. That would have been nice. LOL But his admission to trusting the wrong people sort of spoke to how he realized he was misguided in many decisions he made. As well as the mistakes he made in his appointments. It’s a really good interview.
I was struck by the number of times Jesus says (in the first 3 gospel accounts--haven't yet come upon it in John) "Let those who have ears, hear". Which implies that he knew/knows perfectly well that there are some who will never listen. My husband yesterday in response quipped, " Didn't Jesus say 'The clueless you will have with you always.' ?"
That was probably the craziest crazy take on anything i've seen or read over the last 5 years. The vaccinated are now (once again) the victims of the unvaccinated...this time b/c we didn't warn them enough last time?!? What happened to the "pandemic of the unvaccinated?" The "grandma killers" are now the bad people only b/c they didn't advocate strongly enough for what was being called "grandma killing" at the time? I guess no was literally thrown in jail, as we saw across the West? No one was de-platformed, de-monetized, or experienced any lawfare for saying what so many of us knew to be true? We just didn't try hard enough? L.O.L.
Oh, and the "flipped a coin" nonsense: we didn't "flip a coin" and we didn't "guess" the right answer. We knew it. Which is why we had the resolve we did to survive the attacks we survived. No one has ever - in a century of trying - developed an effective vaccine for a coronavirus. (No, the flu "vaccines" do not work by any normal person's definition of "work.") We knew this. We also knew there was no way these things were adequately tested in a few months, since such testing requires years. An untested, novel technology never used at this scale? It wasn't hard to "guess" the right answer. Oh, and it matters that we also knew covid was 0% deadly for the vast majority of the population.
So, really, if they're gonna complain at this point, I have no pity for their situation at all. If they can't admit they brought this on themselves - and everyone else - then may they live in the hell of their own making.
But it’s so typical of them. It’s always someone else’s job to tel them what to do and make decisions for them. That way, they can always blame someone else and have zero responsibility for their choices 🙄
they had the same information but chose to ignore that the death jabs were - experimental - and that some of us would rather wait for confirmation (which we now know will never come) than become a lab rat for Pharma
I told my doc of 20+ years that I did not want to be a guinea pig. She ghosted me as she flew out of the exam room. I guess I should have warned her harder?
It's not our responsibility. You're right. In this case it was my way of saying that I was not going to get it. I was shocked by her response. Maybe if I had been keeping up with the MSM fear porn I wouldn't have been so shocked. This was March of 2021. I haven't been back to see her.
Yep. I went many rounds with friends and others about the dangers of the clot shot. I was censored on FB all the time for putting up the Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, Zinc combo. So, color me, "I don't give a shit about Jakes. And I don't give a shit about the whiny AFRU."
Exactly. We weren’t silent. We were silenced. We were ridiculed, hated and loathed. We were threatened with a ‘dark winter of death’ and possibly being sent to camps. Anyone blaming the ‘silence’ of the unvaxxed just wasn’t listening because they were too busy screaming at us.
I just had a good laugh at the woke crowd blaming the unvaccinated. These people never learn, they are perpetual victims, always blaming others and never taking personal responsibility for themselves. So I suppose they are victims - of their own stupidity. And as the comedian said, “you can’t fix stupid”.
And we can’t forget the smarmy Hollywood shills: only people who are vaxxed may come to my house, said by Jennifer what’s-her-name, married for awhile to Brad Pitt. 🙃😜
We went to a vaccination center to hand out literature and talk to people if they were willing to listen - same as you, when they started pushing them on kids because how could we not?
Looks like there are a lot of limited hangout attempts. I think the New York Times article that Jeff cites also tries to avoid mentioning who was really responsible for all those repressive policies. They say it’s “Activists, academics and experts”— and ignore those who made so much money on the lockdown economy. (The people they blame were just the useless idiot helpers.)
“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”
Agreed. At the very least, WW III might be short and regional. If Trump can't get it stopped, then maybe thanksgiving might be the sucker's take. But for now, it seems much better than the whacko's of the past 4 yrs.
Majestic in holiness and offering help to the weary.
“Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light."
Here’s hoping C&C readers abandoned any ships that were working for the government during the biggest scam of our lifetimes, and found a honest house of worship to call home. Those that resisted the temptation of the almighty dollar earned your trust. Those that didn’t torched it.
Covid opened many religious eyes. I saw, for the first time, how my Catholic Church had been infiltrated. I now attend the Traditional Latin Mass and worship among devout believers in Our Lord Jesus Christ. The ‘woke’ won’t force me out of my own Church as we stand up for traditional faith.
I’m not catholic but I would like to attend a Latin one. I think with the rest of the liturgy it would be a very spiritual experience. God can still speak to someone through any outward seeking of Him. No matter the language.
There is a group, Floriani, that sings Traditional Latin chants. Their latest album is called "Chants of Deliverance" (available on iTunes) and the "Dies Ires" is truly a spiritual experience. If you can't find a Latin Mass, listen to some of their music.
From my perspective ( as a student of a few languages) I find that He speaks to me more clearly when I am "working" in a language not native to me. When I read the scriptures in English I miss so many points!
I attend the FSSP Church in Rapid City, SD. I’ve been to the one in Littleton, CO and it was excellent. Sadly, when I visit NC the TLM is very hard to find. The FSSP, SSPX and the ICKSP have numerous churches in the US but I pray many more will become available. Slowly, the Vatican is removing the TLM from each Novus Ordo parish …
My Catholic Church was awesome and never once pushed the jab. I wonder if some of it came down from the diocese. My Catholic Church was a religious order so they don’t fall under the diocese for matters like that.
Prayers up for Pastor Jakes, no one wants to see another person suffer the way he did. Hope he recovers soon.
Though he is ill and we pray for him, that doesn't shield him from criticism. TJ Jakes has a *long* history of teaching non-biblical doctrine, most notably the prosperity gospel ("name it and claim it"). This teaching really is cancerous as it completely twists the gospel turning God into a genie that grants "believers" wishes provided they play the game correctly. This is so at odds with the whole counsel of God that it cannot be condemned strongly enough.
It's so surprise people that don't know the Bible (or perhaps do know it but teach it falsely) got sucked completely into the whole Covid narrative. Even worse, they promoted it. There needs to be a serious reckoning in the church along with the public health and medical establishment.
During the mask freak period, I sat through a sermon where the priest articulated quite strongly the sinfulness of living in fear. After Mass I commented to him the irony of saying such to a congregation full of people wearing masks. To which he replied: "some things are worth being afraid of." Okay padre, I'm off to another parish.
Terrible answer, as I don't recall seeing the mask exception to "trust God and do not fear" in the Bible.
One though can exercise caution and good judgment without being fearful. I don't recklessly speed through red lights to show I'm trusting God. Solid scientific evidence that shows the benefits of masking outweighs the risks, along with a reasoned decision to wear a mask based on that evidence, would qualify. But of course that evidence doesn't exist and it wasn't why people were wearing masks. It was usually out of fear or virtue signaling.
Another valid reason was to comply with the orders of the civil authority put in place by God as we are told to do in Romans 13. However, many Christians continued to wear masks longs after those orders were rescinded.
If the government issues a dictate that requires me to non-verbally signal that I disbelieve the Gospel and do not trust God, I will not comply, and with a clear conscience.
Romans 13 is not a blanket statement to always obey every rule issued by civil authorities, as is evidenced by numerous godly people in the Bible disobeying rules set forth by man, like "bow down and worship this statue of me," for instance. Since masks were ineffective, wearing them just to comply with civil authorities was lending support to a lie, or several lies.
Romans 13 clearly states that "rulers are not a terror to good works. but to evil." It says that in order to be unafraid of authority, we should do what is good and we will be commended by said authority. Paul goes on to say that the ruler is God's messenger, avenging wrath on the evildoer. SO . . . what if the rulers actually ARE a terror to good works? What if we do good and are PERSECUTED by authorities? What if our authorities are avenging wrath on the doers of GOOD? Seems to me there is room for resistance even in scripture, particularly when the authorities jailed Christians, even put them to death, just for being followers of The Way. Otherwise they wouldn't have lowered Paul down in a basket through an opening in the wall (Acts 9:24) to subvert plans to have him executed--he would have just let himself be arrested. (Use the senses you have that have been honed to discern good from evil.)
Yes, completely agree. We must not obey civil authorities when they command us to violate God's word. This would mean either commanding us to do something the Bible prohibits, or forbidding us to do something the Bible requires.
My point was that would have been a *biblical* response JohnS's question to his pastor. They then could have dug into if either of the two conditions above apply. Instead his pastor told him "trust God and do not fear" is just a platitude, free to be ignored if one is so inclined.
This is the point that is always missed. Our subservience and obedience MUST always be in terms of the standard of God's Law. That is the standard of righteousness. But the church today ignores and discounts the law of God. "God is love!" No... God is righteousness and He brings judgement and blessings in terms of His Law Word. American Christianity is wandering in the wilderness of ignorance concerning His Law. We don't believe in it anymore - except for insincere lip service. "The people perish for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6
Ah.. I don’t see much these days that qualifies as orders from Godly leaders. That is I see very few Godly leaders. So I don’t obey if things seem “off”. Going through red lights could harm others absolutely. That’s an easy one, Jeff. It was a little harder to discern what we just went through with only an attitude of obedience to power. Unless I’m reading “valid reason” wrong. Masks were wrong and plenty of evidence (like over 150 studies prove it) what about the developmental delay in children now being studied? I could go on and on but won’t. . Blessings and happy thanksgiving.
There was a scientist who spoke out about how bad the mask were and that we will see the side effects for years to come. One side effect which bothered me a lot was the onset of dementia would happen even younger in people the other was delay in learning for children.
You said, "There needs to be a serious reckoning in the church along with the public health and medical establishment."
I agree, but I would add that "there needs to be a serious reckoning in the church *regarding its deference to* the public health and medical establishment.
Too many Christians think there is a divide between God and science, and specifically medical science. They think it is morally wrong not to listen to the experts, and say things like "God gave us modern medicine, vaccines, medical technology, etc. as means by which He can heal us." But they use no discernment whatsoever in deciding whether or not to follow the advice of their physicians. And so many people in each congregation work in the field of medicine, and are seen as caring and altruistic, and I don't doubt that many of them truly want to help people. It's just that they themselves have been led astray by the system, and no one wants to criticize medicine because they don't want to be seen as ignorant or uncaring.
I've concluded that most people only believe in God up to the point where believing in God becomes scary, unsettling, life course altering, and so on. Most people little understand what 'the purpose of Man is to glorify God' really means ... nor how to abide in that. And it seems that locking up churches, wearing masks, social distancing, wearing the abjectly stupid plastic face shields and bowing down to the god-state took first row seat precedence over Man's prime duty which again ... is to Glorify God in all things. During the C19 Terror Campaign all Christian sourced and based reason was chucked out the window (actually most astonishingly, it apparently was not even there in the first place!).
C-19 really opened my eyes, clarified to a large extent as to what people were really about with 'actions speaking louder than words' as the highest tier of good instruction.
You know, that reminds me of the Israelites who, even after being delivered from Egypt through the water, still had no idea what the purpose of man was and that generation had to die in the wilderness.
If doctors want to "help people" for the sake of generating good feelings in their flesh, then they have their reward. If, by disregarding epistemic responsibility, they harm people in the same vein, they will answer for it to a Holy God.
You are NOT referring to Energy Density Frequency Medicine that is ALTERNATIVE medicine with NO side-effects that God did give us so we don't have to worry about sickness or big pharma or expensive doctors, etc. It works in about 10 minutes and costs 2 cents per treatment. See for more info: https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/c20e94f3-e60c-4e6d-83d8-8ef854f2fcac
Thanks Jeff. So many claim Christianity yet do not have a spiritual awakening. They toot religion which is the same thing the Pharisees and Sadducees did. Jesus said it, "You have to be born again by the Holy Spirit!" Many Christians do not get this and still only live in the flesh.
Not specific to religious leaders, but Open The Books published an article a couple days ago on government spending to “combat covid misinformation”, this one of the items they uncovered:
“$1,293,614, Department of Health and Human Services, University of Iowa. To leverage trusted community members to address “disparities in COVID testing and vaccine uptake.”
No details on how many people they paid off with that sum, but this likely applies across the whole country. If they were pushing the shots, the were getting $$$.
The attack on Christians in many cases was right under our very noses. Killing them off via "vaccine" injection was purposeful. And they will be judged accordingly by the God that they deny. Or rather, they will judge themselves pretty badly when they are unable to lie to Him. If I'm to understand many NDE stories (Near Death Experiences), your THOUGHTS are communicated instantly to people. They will seek to hide from Him.
I found a fantastic Christian church. The dynamic pastor in a nearby town refused to shut down during covid. They kicked him out. He opened a new church in my town about a year ago and I am back in the fold after decades of giving up on organized religion. It’s a breath of fresh air after all the Catholic guilt.
I'm SURE our church would not have taken any financial bribes as they do not in all other areas. However, I have heard through the grapevine (well, a relative who knows one of the top leaders) that our church leadership were arm twisted pretty hard. I don't know how, but another top leader said later in the context of the lockdowns and inability to worship (being unconstitutional), "Never again!"
But it was to be expected from political figures like Hochul, or Jha, who claimed God gave us 2 arms: one for the flu shot, and one for the covid shot.
What really hurt was hearing from authors and pastors I previously respected that masking and getting vaccinated was the morally correct action to take. Their spiritual discernment was exposed to be lacking right from the beginning when they participated in the state's orders to stay away from each other and from those with physical and spiritual needs.
Agreed on that last point - and the "Shepherds for Sale" book went into some interesting details about far too many cases where those big name leaders compromised themselves for various purposes. The whole "Collins / BigE" summit notwithstanding, there are far too many who bought into the experts and then pushed it on their flocks. :(
Local church leaders need to do a very difficult thing: sit down with the members of their congregations who work in health care and present to them the possibility that they are in a cult. Some of them realize that their industry is corrupt, and they are just working within it to provide balance and prevent harm. Some believe in it too strongly, and don't question anything, setting aside all critical thinking and deferring to the "experts". It really is idol worship, and they need to be rebuked for it.
Present the health care professionals with the concept of epistemic responsibility.
It's not science to believe at his word a man in a white coat. The abandonment of science was readily apparent to the most casual observer. These people had a responsibility to know this.
I listened to two interviews with the author of that book. Difficult medicine to swallow—but life saving benefits on the other side. It is in my Cyber Monday shopping cart!
I think you are right. And the result is a lot of insane mumble-jumbo comes out of the mouths of the alleged pastorate ... and because of this the people are not shepherded other than over the cliff. And by this failure in pastorate duty the leaders of nations are not thereby held to any account. And few are those who say it as it is.
Nice to see this comment! Because it is truth spoken.
—“Nothing has changed! Nothing about Democrats has changed except, for a long time, the Democrats were able to fool minorities and working-class whites into thinking they’d abandoned their elitist, slave-owning roots. They tricked the same groups that, down south, the Democrats had consistently fooled before the Civil War.”
This. So much this!!! They have only pretended to be the champions of the working classes, the poor, the downtrodden, in order to gain power. They’ve always thought of themselves as our “betters” and entitled to tell the rest of the population how to live. Talk to most die-hard Democrats nowadays and really listen to what they say—you’ll find beneath the veneer of “caring” is an assumption that they know better and should be able to dictate to others what life choices to make. Their condescending comments about the “uneducated” betray that, as does their credentialism.
Also Jeff, I absolutely LOVE your argument about the mandates, brilliant! So glad the judge has enough sense to agree with your very logical assertion!
Sharp insights, RL. Apparently, too many Boomers still believe in peace at any price, but our legacy—Gen X in particular—sees through the Dem smoke screens of big brother and bold lies. Now, if all who recognize the obvious will turn out for midterms . . .
Agreed. I read somewhere that the election of 2024 was akin to a slave revolt, only this time it was the tax slaves. I think this is an insightful comment.
Now we need a full-scale revolution of the people in the inner cities of New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Los Angeles etc, etc, etc, to look around and realize how badly they’ve been lied to and used by the perpetual democrat machine. Looks like it started this cycle… has a lot more room to grow!
I'll always disagree with this take. The "elitist slave-owning roots" are Jefferson, Madison, Washington, etc. They were our founding fathers. You can reject them, but I won't. And "down south" for generations, the Democrats were the party of small government, where as the Republicans were the big government party. That was the case until communists infiltrated the Democratic party, and longtime conservatives, even Reagan, defected and converted the GOP to the small government party. The Democrats didn't fool minorities and working class - they adopted policies which actively harm them (Communism).
I don't hold the slavery issue against the Founders at all. I get fatigued with the left's slavery obsession/cudgel. As with most everything, they are lying about it and have the story backwards.
Slavery was the dominant economic arrangement for most of the world for most of human history. It was likely invented by "black and brown" people, as those pyramids weren't going to build themselves. It was entirely common for ruling classes to have slaves of one sort or another, especially "black and brown" ruling classes.
So, the only thing unique about the US when it comes to slavery is that we ended it - pretty much for the world. We should feel proud about our role regarding slavery, not ashamed of it. In fact, I count at least 3 things that America gave the world that were truly progressive and genuinely humanitarian: 1A, 2A, and the end of slavery.
And IMO, that is why so many elites still hate America: we limited their power and ended their preferred way of doing business. (And Marxism/communism/etc. is just an intellectualized form of slavery.)
Yes, exactly. The ONLY reason people bring up slavery is to use it as a cudgel. It's one thing for the left to do it - I expect that. The modern day Democrats are so terrible as it is, I don't need Jeff or anyone else to bring up slavery as proof of how terrible the Democratic Party is. His piece is worthy of the NYTimes 1619 project.
The Democrats only were the party of the little guy and as much as they could control the little guy particularly through powerful unions. Which were just a different form of big government for the little guy in his workplace.
Also, the reason why the communist/socialist so easily fit into the Democrat party is because they’re so similar in terms of wanting to control the little guy.
Are there any of the big political bosses from the 1800s and early 1900s that were Republican? I’m asking, because I don’t know. But there were sure an awful lot of powerful Democrats that operated their cities like their own personal kingdom.
I would argue that the Democrats only wanted “small government” so no one would interfere with their abuses of people’s rights. The government has an obligation to enforce the bill of rights and ensure those freedoms are not infringed on. I don’t think “big government” in the 19th century was quite the same thing as “big government” in the 20th. Kind of like the Chamber of Commerce style defenses made of businesses with mask and jab mandates being sold as “businesses should be free to be run as the owner sees fit, without interference. Just shop/work somewhere else.”
Southern conservatives were adamantly opposed to what we refer to today as Corporate Welfare. The term "lobbyist" was coined by U.S. Grant. Yes, conservatives lost that war. They were afraid a strong central government would infringe on the rights of States to remain sovereign in their governance. They lost that war, too.
And yet, those particular slave owners put into place a system where the average person, the non elites, without titles or riches, had unheard of freedoms and rights.
Actually, both parties were infiltrated. NeoCon worship, afterall, springs from the Trotskyites who seeing that they were not getting anywhere fast decided to change their spots with an optical remake. Too much to go into now, but it was both of the two main political parties which have pushed America over the cliff and into the pit. Trump has shaken things up a great deal, but!
The but is that everything is political doings is a mirage, a grand illusion. And it still remains to be seen what comes out of this new swirling of 'change'.
The NeoCons were originally Democrats. I think they moved into the Republican party because they didn't like the Dems 'hippie' culture at the time, but I'm not sure.
Most of the left/Dem policy failures come down to their own misplaced or deranged version of "caring." It's become a pseudo-religion to them. Their decades-long failures in the fields of medicine, healthcare, criminal justice, and finance are obvious examples. Their failure in mental health (incl. "transgenderism") is maybe the most glaring. It's obvious to most of us regular people that enabling selfishness, laziness, stupidity, criminality, addiction, delusion, or insanity is never good...but enablement is a well they go to often in the name of "caring."
In their minds, they just "know better" b/c the "studies say" - which is the same as saying b/c their god says so. (Funny that their god always seems to demand more government and more spending, in the name of "caring.") Despite all the evidence from actual outcomes and the mountains of pushback from regular non "chosen" people, they just keep going with a failed ideology. Hubris. Is it a coincidence they named their signature "achievement" Pride? Is it a coincidence that's also a deadly sin?
"I explained to the judge that, like George Washington, the city considered its employees to be property. Municipal employees were just a cattle-like herd to be immunized solely because the paternalistic city thought best." Holy COW!!! That is brilliant, and I am betting that YOU are the only person who ever thought of that argument. I think EVERY attorney should have that argument at the forefront of their lawsuits!!!!
I also think there was a component of Washington being their military leader and soldiers are expected to obey their leaders. A very different situation from ordinary employees and citizens being mandated.
He’s also a prosperity preacher and no doubt was launching into another one of those type of sales pitch based on Jeff’s description of what he was saying before he collapsed. So I wouldn’t use the word Christian in association with him and probably not many of his followers either although I’m sure they think they are.
On the other hand I used to attend the charismatic type church that many of the hood people followed folks like Jakes and Hinn and Copeland etc. I was new in the faith and I thought that was legitimate because people I respected did also. But as I read the Bible and learned more I moved away from all of that.
I've seen a few writings recently by higher profile people who say that deaths will continue to increase over the 5 years after the shots. Cancer will be the big one. Heart problems being the other.
Yes. I was sort of addicted to Spaces for a while there, and listened to a long one about censorship and KDC got into it with a few ppl about covid. Texas Lindsay was hosting. It knocked my opinion of him down several notches.
I made the mistake of clicking on that Toke Two website. I read about sixty words and closed it. These people are vile beyond my wildest comprehension.
Here in El Paso, Texas, someone running for public office said that a lot of Hispanics just don't know that they aren't blue - meaning that historically they have voted Democrat, but their values align more closely with Republicans.
Yes, I’ve been soooo busy in the mornings for the past few weeks, that I haven’t been able to open C&C until one (or two or four 😆) hundred people have already left comments!
And here I am at 11:00 pm finally getting to it. 🤣 Normally I’m one of the first here, but I’ve been really busy lately trying to work through house clutter/piles of paperwork from the past 10 years. If I opened up C&C first I’d never get to any of it. I knew I had to consciously choose NOT to open Substack. Lolol
I hear you! It’s been kind of the same for me, trying to get through my to-do list and finally finish some projects that have been on the back burner for a while. Also I have had more work than usual, so just haven’t had the time to read and comment much here lately.
The massive illegal immigration supported by Democrats also worked against them. They got increased population in blue cities leading to more seats in Congress and Electoral College votes, and the possibility of harvesting ballots. But they alienated their base, because much of the movement towards Republicans was from groups directly impacted by the immigrants, and the grotesque unfairness of all the money given to immigrants.
I am concerned about Dr Janette Nesheiwat.
People are gagging on this pick so bad that he may have to pull her.
Otherwise we'll have to organize a protest to force a replacement.
I mean, she's for the masking of small children. Horrid.
So, let's say the SG doesn't have any real power. Why nominate someone who invokes such negative feelings? Trumpy can't find a neutral, plain vanilla place holder for the position? I'll do it. What's it pay? On second thought, would I have to move to D.C.? If yes, then I'm out.
Everyone wants dr. Joe Ladapo👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉🎉
I doubt Lapado will ever have a chance at a Trump appointment because of his anti Covid shot stance. Lapado warned people of the dangers of the jab to save lives and prevent permanent injuries. Lapado could be an embarrassment to Trump.
Trump still tells people his vaxx saved hundreds of millions of lives 😂🤣😂 That’s probably why he chose Nesheiwat because she was pro-jab, but anti mandate. She’s loyal to Trump in the way he needs people to be loyal to him.
He does love to exagerate! Saving hundreds of millions of lives!? POS.
He may be on standby, if Bobby doesn’t get confirmed!
I dunno, I'm losing hope now that Trump has betrayed us all so badly with the nomination of Nesheiwat.
His picks that support the mass-murdering Zionist psychos are also appalling.
Col Macgregor would have brought sanity to this administration.
Wow, not even taken the oath of office and already losing hope... relax, let the man work... you will probably be amazed.
Well... start writing and posting on X. I think it was the Daily Wire...?... some email I got a few days ago said there is a group amassing to protest it... not sure how. Write your Senator -- mine is Pelosi --she'd be happy to go against Trump.. lol
Whoa. Dude.
If Bobby doesn't get confirmed then it's all a sham.
Agreed.
Not just confirmed, either. Kennedy has to be free to speak out against Trump's beloved death jabs, and actually get them banned.
Yes. Dr. Joe for Surgeon General. Though we would hate to lose him in Florida.
YES!
HHS Secretary RFK, Jr. would have authority over SG.
Trump intends to betray RFK Jr. now that he's used RFK to get elected.
The Hotez-approved nomination of a horrible pharma shill is proof.
🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Hogwash.
You are just full of vinegar today.
And why aren't you? You have been betrayed.
Negative, negative, negative. Really Patrick.net. More probably Patrick the bot.
Maybe Collins was RFK, Jr.'s pick? Who knows at this point, all this is a wait-and-see situation.
No idea what you mean here. Francis Collins, Pfauci's fellow human cockroach?
Susan Collings (R ME)
I nominate Dr. Linda!
Second
Even that worthless slut would be better than the evil Janette Nesheiwat!
Another one full of vinegar today.
Mebbe so... I hope you agree that she is a really BAD choice.
Yesterday you were Janice.....🙄
I don't understand what Jane the bot hopes to gain
Just my thought on your post "let's say the SG doesn't have any real power..."
Maybe Trump is using this supposed position of "no-power" as a means to placate the democrats and/or the COVID-19 shot happy people.
Certainly could be, but why placate them? It's not like they will change their mind about Trump.
I think we have to allow for the possibility that there is a lot of horse-trading and strategizing that has to go into his picks that need approval. He is still fighting the entrenched NeoCons who essentially control both parties. I'm in a wait and see mode since the election is over anyway.
He did bargain with them for 4 federal judges so … I am with you about waiting and seeing.
I hope you are right.
Agreed.
That’s what is supposed to happen. Getting out of the my side/your side = 0. Plus dictators don’t act like President Trump is acting. This is a good thing IMO.
Me, too.
Right, so the only logical conclusion is that Trump sold us all out to Pfizer, Pfauci, and Gates.
My take is Trump is trying to better calm the emotions that have been evident since his election.
This is just a hypothesis, if true it may help to calm things down.
Stick a jab-happy person in the mix and it immensely buffers the situation.
Plus it adds diversity, in a certain way, to the mix.
Every comment is hate… tell me you are a liberal without telling me.
She is supposedly sister in law to National security adviser: Mike Waltz. Maybe she was not allowed to speak her mind, since she was working as TV doctor. I think that we can trust Mike to speak out if she was on the other side.
Just like the Senate giving the rino Susan Collins a plumb committee leadership position. Maybe a deal was made with her for her vote to put through Trump’s pics?
The number of people still getting them is way less 20%. What would be the point?? Especially now.
Suggesting Israel was behind 9-11 is bleating personified. You're just a little dicked dimwitted antisemitic bigot. GFY
Are you implying that I would be the perfect candidate for "phoning it in"? Have you been talking with my wife? ...:P
As I wrote below: Does the Surgeon General actually have any real power? I just remember the guy with the beard and fancy name under Reagan and the idiot black woman Clinton had who talked about masturbation... Beyond that, do these people do anything other than PR stuff???
I think the SG has enormous influence. That's why a doctor so ignorant to believe that vaccines "treat" diseases should never be the SG.
But to put these clowns in any office is demoralizing to his base.
Maybe that's the point. Just to shit on all the people who voted for him, making it perfectly clear that what the people want is utterly unimportant compared to however much Pfizer is paying Trump this time around.
Oh please. Your negativity is exhausting.
I think the PR stuff is probably the most important part 😕 Influencing public opinion, say, on vaccines 😕😕😕
well tobacco products have a surgeon generals warning....
FL’s SG does seem to influence policy there. I cannot recall if US SG really has any policy over site. If it’s just for show, I say DOGE it.
Jocelyn Elders. I think I remember her name because I was taking AP Government in High School at the time.
Rush was always making fun of her or playing clips of her
I miss rush
Great questions...that's what I remember. The beard. Yuk.
C Everett Coop
The coopmaster wants to coop up all the chickens, and us, eh?
The narrative has power!
Yet through some twisted logic, the "signal" of nominating RFK Jr. for HHS, Marty Makary for the FDA, and Dave Weldon for the CDC (all stellar picks) don't matter.
Strange how with you the "signal" only ever matters when it can be used to criticize Trump.
I made you a cake and used all the best ingredients. Except I put in cyanide in place of sugar.
Why don't you complement me on all the other ingredients?
Point completely missed. And non-sensical too since the Surgeon General is figurehead position with no real power. Those other roles actually have authority as the executive leadership positions of massive government agencies. They will be in place to make real changes in government policy unlike the dopey Surgeon General.
...sounds like the ingredients compLEMENT each other - except one - and, thus please accept our qualified compLIMENTS on the cake.
MAKARY is also horrible for many reasons.
Right. Although the SG may not have any real authority, he/she has a big microphone and is a spokesperson.
Where is RFK on this pick? Why wasn’t Joseph Ladapo chosen???
I’m glad Ladapo wan’t picked. FL and the states need him.
I think the publishing that photo of Kennedy being forced to eat McDonald's food on a private plane with Trump is intended to:
1. Humiliate Kennedy
2. Signal that Kennedy will either never take office or that he has effectively been neutered and told not to object to the death jabs.
Dream on.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂
What happened to everything moderation?
Lapado would have been a great pick. Maybe Trump is showing DeSantis a little mercy.
Agreed. Ladapo is the best possible pick. Wake up DJT. Listen to those who put you in the WH again.
hmm--semiotics?
Nice. Hadn’t heard that since grad school. We can’t outgrow the deconstructed generation fast enough.
And, it's a signal to the pro-Fauci, pro-vaccine, pro-Pharma types.
Yes, it's a VERY clear signal that Trump is 100% owned by Pfizer and the criminals behind the mandates. So disappointing.
Trump is owned by another entity that hates us too. He speaks a good game and is not what we think. That story he told about the snake resonates with me but who/what is the snake?
President Trump reads the "Snake Poem" at his rally in North Carolina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgUBu1lkOMs
A certain attorney we all know and love mayyyy have put a bug in the ear of the attorney(s) who won the case against mask mandates in our fave plump, lying liar, Fani Willis’ county.
Perhaps he can put another bug…
Was for all that. Tucker interviewed her. Haven’t watched it yet, but she has changed per those who have watched it.
No, there is no possible "change" sufficient short of openly calling for a ban on the mRNA because of the massive numbers of deaths and injuries it has obviously caused.
Sounds like you may need to rescind your vote for Trump.
Well, I still think Kamala is worse.
Perhaps you should have run for President. You seem to have all the answers!
Ha! Good one sempervirens!
She has a sister named Julia. I copied this from Grok on X because I asked the question about it.
“Julia, is Michael Waltz's wife Julia Nesheiwat. She is a combat veteran who has served in various national security roles across multiple presidential administrations, including those of Bush, Obama, and Trump. She was most recently Trump's Homeland Security Advisor.”
Exactly. Trump disgusts me now. He is immediately proving himself to be an agent of Pfizer and forced medical experiments on the public.
We should all be organizing massive protests right now.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL
No, we need to give things a chance to evolve! He is fighting incredible odds to get anything done, and some “horse-trading” is inevitable. We cannot possibly expect him to succeed in every area, and it would be a huge mistake, IMO to turn on everything we don’t (think) we like.
I don't care about every area. I care about stopping the death jabs and bringing justice to the people who committed the worst crime in human history, people like Pfauci.
That should be the top priority of everyone on earth, so that we cannot get massacred again at the whim of Pfauci, Bourla, et al.
You sound like “big honey” also known as Michael Yon. The only thing you need to know is that Rachel Levine is the current surgeon, Gen. How much influence did he have on public health??? If you think this guy who believes in sex changes for children and dresses like some very ugly lady had a lot of influence with people and maybe we got a problem but otherwise we should be fine. Let RFK Junior take care of it.
What? Dick "Rachel" Levine is a horror show. I am embarrassed that he is in the US government at all, in a dress.
I am too. The question is do you think he had any major impact on public health???
I don’t. He is not a good person. He’s evil. I saw somebody say something about maybe this female doctor as a pediatrician. No, it’s Levine. That is the pediatrician. Could you imagine taking your child to that creep? I can’t I’m a retired nurse who once worked in public health among other fields and there is no way that man would have ever had any impact on public health then.
I met him when he was still married, with one child at the time. He was married to our academic dean's daughter and they were visiting her. He was a big nothing, nothing special or interesting about him. Yes, he is a pediatrician from either State College or Hershey if I remember correctly. Now has two children. How awful for them.
Right on, sempervirens!
it is not Surgeon General. It is assistant secretary for health. A perfect example of health, no?
Patrick, the bot.
Not a bot, not even a bit of a bot!
Agree
Do men really say 'horrid'? Asking for a friend.
You can't possibly believe that Trump got to this place with his 5-D chess and is unaware of the repercussions of this sell out for SG? We need to let Trump DO what he's qualified to do and see what plays out. Covid was a PUBLIC attack. To fully undo it with the "not paying attention" crowd (and there are many of those on both sides), Trump has to fully discredit it PUBLICALLY. I, for one, think it's going to be amazing to watch!
NO! Trump is proving right now that he will never criticize his beloved poison injections. He even lied about their efficacy yet again in the Nesheiwat announcement itself, which he would not have done if he had the slightest intention of telling the truth, ever.
Trump has obviously screwed over his base with this. He did it after getting our votes, maybe just to say "Suckers!"
And I'm pretty sure he's about to do the same thing to RFK, who was either a sucker to trust Trump, or is proving himself to have no integrity about the death jabs. Either way it's very bad news.
Patrick, the bot. Give it a rest. We get it. You have bloviated enough.
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And I'm worried about the RINO's in the Senate. It looks like they are setting the stage to oppose everything MAGA. That's going to infuriate conservatives. And why hasn't Mitch McConnell retired?! He looks worse than Biden at this point.
Heard on the radio last night that Pelosi, 84, has filed to run again. Their question was 'Why don't they just back off and give younger candidates room?'
She has been elected twenty times.... As I see it, 20 times TOO MANY!
Why don’t voters vote for a younger, fresher more intelligent candidate? Oh I forgot, it is California.
Exactly. It's a one-party state. No choice.
The voting is rigged in CA.
The hubris. No kidding 84?and running again? CA or not. Maybe shes banking on few people left in San Fran that actually give a sh*t. I'm glad I can still be shocked by this stuff.
Funny…Pelosi and sh*t in the same sentence. San Francisco has to clean the 8 blocks from her house to the Opera so she does not have to see the sh*t and the homeless and the druggies that her policies have caused and continue to perpetuate. Talk about a clueless, dishonest politician. Go California. Your continual support for the Pelosi Mob Family tells the rest of the country everything we need to know about California, Pelosi, and her nephew, Gavin Newsome.
They love the money and power too much 😡
Pelosi won't go until she is removed in a coffin. Remember how Sen. Dianne Feinstein "stayed in office" throughout at least a couple of years of dementia.
Exactly.
Term limits… hope they put them in place quickly!
They can't let go of the reigns for some reason. They have a plan and they have to see it through to the bitter end.
Supported by George Soros. Can I get an Amen?!?!?
Nancy Pelosi…one of these days she is going to break her leg trotting around in those 4” stilettos!
Now that they have a notch in their belts from the Gaetz controversy (over which I think Trump folded like a bad suit), they just might be feeling their oats and go for Gabbard, RFK, and particularly Hegseth. I don't like the trajectory here.
Oh I don't think Trump folded at all! I think it was a fake from the beginning. Trump ended up with the rights to appoint FOUR Federal judges that the Dems would have appointed. And Gaetz is holding out for a different position in the admin. I saw it mentioned the other day but can't remember the position. This is why he's not returning to the 119th Congress.
Again, think Susie Wiles, what is she strategizing? She is a
master strategist
+1. You would think by now ppl would give a little, uh, grace. Especially on a conservative, religious Stack. They've been right about so much and the naysayers proven wrong so many times, you'd think they'd have learned their lesson.
Absolutely. Give it a chance.
Susy Wiles is a piece of shit. That is how you thst SG pick and AG Barbie.
If you have opinions about her why not state facts instead of calling names or cussing. ?
Wow smh
Wake the F Up
Or he could change his “intention” letter & just go back into congress! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Yep, ANYTHING is possible at this point in history! LOL!
Special Council perhaps? Let the investigations begin🥳
Special Counsel
Possibly DeSantis will appoint him to the senate to fill Marco Rubio's spot and then Trump can appoint Gaetz to the Senate. I still think he would have been more effective as the AG. He knows where the bodies are buried; I'm not sure that Bondi has that skill set.
I agree...Gaetz was a piece of red meat he threw out there so they could go hysterical and think they had a victory in denying one of Trump's people....and perhaps lay off of other of his appointments.
Trump is a strategist. Watch and see!
Perhaps we all need to take a deeeeep breath and slowly exhale...does this merit a 24-48 hour hover & hold period or should we just give it 7 days? Patience is warranted.
Agree. Too many impulsive hot takes right now.
Trump is already infuriating his base by praising the injectable poison yet again and nominating an obvious pharma shill for SG.
I didn't vote for any of these clowns, and am just sitting back and watching the fallout. It's pretty fascinating. I kept reminding folks during election season that Trump is still proud of Operation Warp Speed. They couldn't/wouldn't hear it. Now they are aghast (baffled?) when Trump gets back in bed with the vaxxers? I suppose they will justify it by claiming "Trump has to get along with everyone" - lol. That's what they used to say when Obama filled his cabinet with neocons, Citibanksters, and Goldman Sachs.
Me too, Mary.
Remember when I remarked how weird it was that all of us C&C-ers were brought together by our opposition to the Deathvax but most of us absolutely*worshipped* the man who bragged about Operation Warp Speed being his "greatest accomplishment"?
Everyone here assured me that he had learned his lesson.
Well maybe he learned a *different* lesson.
I'm so happy you feel smug and vindicated. Will you still feel that way when the Deep State finally succeeds in blowing us all up?
You don't sound happy.
LOL.
But then, vote for Kackala?
What about my statement led you to think that? Knee-jerk tribalism? That would be my guess.
Im pretty sure that was always the plan. Led down the garden path again.
Sadly, I think you're right.
Agreed. The RINOS will not go quietly into that good night. They are going to go kicking and screaming. I despise Collins, Murkowski and O'Connell (I'm sure there are others).
Ditch Mitch ….
He will
That’s true, they are.
I thought McConnell had announced he was leaving in January.
An awful pick and very difficult to comprehend.
I really really REALLY hate to say it, but it reminds of Trump's hiring of the Swamp in his first term.
Yeah, ouch. I so want to put my fingers in my ears and say, "LALALALALA." But I do like your apostrophe.
Yes, possessive with a gerund, for any other grammar geeks.
Thanks, Reasonable! That's mighty ... Uh, ... Er, I mean uh ...
Nevermind.
Punctual?
If Mattis, McMaster and the other high-ranking goofballs make their return we'll know. I want to give Trump and his advisors the benefit of the doubt at this point. His election victory shows that he understands the game. My hope is that there's a strategy involved with these nominations given that the nomination process with appointments like Kennedy and Gabbard is going to be difficult. There are too many RINOs and DNC allies in congress whose only interest is self-preservation and blocking Trump's efforts.
I agree 100%. I am trying to stay positive and not get all worked up at this point. As Jeff likes to say Trump is playing 4D chess. Let’s see what happens. He’s not stupid. He knows how people feel and o don’t think he’s going to appoint a bunch of pharma shills. Bobby has his ear and the transition team all has input into who might get nominated.
"He’s not stupid."
Then he must be evil. Or maybe little of both.
I'm shocked at how tone deaf the man is when it comes to ideology.
Trump has a lot of talents but on a lot of things he is not the sharpest tool in the shed. He really has no ideology of his own, just pragmatism.
I hope she's another sacrificial lamb for the advise and consent process. Problem is, she just might get confirmed.
Sacrifice!
I wish the Senate would remember that the language is "advise and consent;" not "advise and reject."
Someone so dedicated to the profits of Pfizer will not have the slightest difficulty in getting confirmed. And Trump knows it.
Agree 😕
Exactly.
To comprehend it, I find myself forced to conclude that Trump is betraying us all to Pfizer.
🤣 C&C readers, we have ourselves a major Trump hater & divider among us.
Bot, paid dnc 🤡, or an IA goon?
Scram commie!
Clearly a paid troll of some sort. No one posts the same comment that much unless they are being paid by the comment. More importantly, have people not figured out that Trump argued to remove the mrna vaccines from the market? The vaccines were only allowed to be on the market due to emergency use authorization, which meant no other effective pre-existing treatments could exist. So, when Trump argued for alternative, existing therapies (like hydroxychloroquine and others) he was, in effect, arguing to pull the vaccines.
More 57-D chess, right?
No, just normal chess. Pretty typical approach in corporate America, where you can't directly make many claims w/o setting off fire alarms with the various gov't agents (aka HR) and whiny always "offended" crowd. So, you have to make your case in a more circuitous way. Leaders in large corporations do this all the time.
Either way, he made arguments for other existing treatments, which has the same effect as arguing to remove the vaccines. He also paid a heavy price for it, many times over.
"Trump argued to remove the mrna vaccines from the market"
WOW are you delusional. This is Trump just four days ago:
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, she worked on the front lines in New York City
treating thousands of Americans and helped patients in the aftermath of President
Donald Trump's Historic Operation Warp Speed that saved hundreds of millions
of lives."
Does that sounds like he's about to remove them from the market?
LOL. Way to take my words out of context and quote only the part you wanted. As I said, when he argued for alternative therapies - which he did, repeatedly - it was in effect an argument to take the vaccines off the market. If there were any other existing effective drugs, the mrna shots could legally not be on the market. Simply the facts. Move along.
I wish he would get a life and start his own substack. He weighs in on every post.
Your wish has been granted:
https://patrickdotnet.substack.com/
Actually l've had it for a few yeas now.
Nope, I'm a real person with a very long history and my own website, patrick.net
It's Trump himself is dividing us by appointing a Pfizer shill.
Well, whatever you're selling, I'm not buying it. Constant negativity is a sign of a chronic complainer who has nothing good to offer.
👍🏼 I agree LuAnne. When a person posts the same message this many times it becomes noise (and seemingly an agenda they are promoting ) and I ignore and skip over them.
A little "question everything" is in order when objecting to mass murder by injection (OWS).
I'm selling truth and justice. I make no money from my site, not even ads. Just proving I have a long history as a real human.
A little negativity is in order when objecting to mass murder by injection.
Just look at what Trump is openly telling you. He _still_ praises the death jab to the heavens.
Nope, nope, nope. You've been exposed as a HERETIC who doubts Dear Leader!
How dare you!
Off to the Orange Gulag with you. (And no second helping of pumpkin pie, either.)
Doesn't it seem that way?
I like to think I put principles (like the right to choose what goes into your own bloodstream) above people.
I'm for Trump the degree that he aligns with good principles and opposed to the degree that he does not. Right now, he looks like he sold out to Pfizer.
I like your memes
Thank you!
Check out John Leake's Substack today about Pfizer. Yikes. If it's possible, they really are worse than we thought.
Thank you Mary Ann.
There’s no other explanation except the usual “it’s 5D chess!” bullshit.
Trump is still proud of Operation Warp Speed.
Why is everyone surprised?
Yeah. Many of us spoke out and tried to warn everyone that Trump is a big swamp member himself. But most people here found that theory blasphemous.
Guess we should have voted for Obama’s pick, Kamala, ha? News flash…they are all in the swamp.
Apparently she has a connection to Michael Waltz. She's supposedly his sister in law. Trump should've made Ladapo head of HHS and the RFK jr at CDC or FDA. She was all for censorship and masking when it counted while Ladapo was busting narratives.
She also has a sister who is "top brass at NSA, Member of WEF, CRF & Atlantic Counsel" according to a Tweet by @Thomas1774Paine.
And yet Tulsi was a WEF young leader and nobody seems concerned about her. I’m much more concerned about that then the SG. Though I agree with the naysayers here. RFK gives me hope. Death jab dealers in positions of power chill my blood.
No. Bueno.
Yikes
I had thought that Ladapo's name was up for this position weeks ago--do I mis-remember?
No, Desantis said something about him and a position with Trump a few weeks ago.
I vote for Lapado!
Me too, especially since Peter Hotez likes her. *shudders*
Right, Hotez exudes even more slime per second than Pfauci does.
Right?? 🤮
Ugh! Worm tongue, that’s who Hotez reminds me of.
Huge clue!
As am I. All I know is what I saw on tv when she pushed the clot shots. Has she had a change of heart? If so, why do we not see her aligned and speaking with the medical dissidents like McCullough, Kory, Malone, etc.? What's almost worse is that Trump's announcement of her appointment praises Operation Warp Speed "saved hundreds of thousands of lives." Wow. What is going on here?
I believe she changed her position on the vax in 2022.
She was just against mandates & stood up for the military, which is good. She wanted religious & medical exemptions honored.
That’s something at least. And far more than the majority of doctors did. Informed consent is a huge deal.
Have you seen or read any evidence of that?
The other day I did.
Fox News clips
Trump lied much more bigly than that. He claims hundred of _millions_ of lives were saved by the death jabs. Makes me want to puke.
Is Trump trying his best to never have to say, "I'm sorry"?
There’s no change of heart. That’s just wishful thinking.
I wrote this in another Substack Author’s comment section, edited today: Dr. Janette Neishewat, recently stated the following which President Trump then Truthed out on his platform on November 17th: "We're coming up on the five year anniversary of Covid, and if you recall, under President Trump's leadership, we had incredible public health policies. President Trump's unparalleled creation of Operation Warp Speed was one like we've never seen before!"
The Doc stated it, Trump amplified it, and a week later she was nominated for Surgeon General. Yes, he advocated for some OTC remedies, but still promoting OWS? Yikes. 😬
I’m smelling the pharmaceutical industry influence here. Undeniable, I’m afraid.
That, or Trump is just a doof. But he's got lots of research info on these candidates, so he can't be so ignorant of her connections.
Remember that Pfizer alone shoveled in $100 BILLION from mass murder by injection.
That much money generates its own gravitational field like a black hole, from which neither light nor truth can emanate.
Surgeon General has always been a hood ornament position, imo.
Dr. Janette Nesheiwat is the sister inlaw to Mike Waltz from FL and Trump’s nat'l security advisor nominee. His wife is her sister. I also read Nesheiwat owns several urgent care facilities in NYC so maybe there's some other connection.
Surgeon Generals don't have policy powers so it makes me wonder if Trump threw a bone to somebody. Who knows.
It will be people like RFK Jr over HHS (CDC, FDA, etc) that will have the policy making powers. I have no clue why Trump would pick such a covid misinformation freak for SG but considering how low this position is on the power structure, I'm not wasting time worrying about it.
She's also a health and wellness CEO: "Shop Now!"
https://bcboost.com/
Let's send her a message
https://bcboost.com/contact/
We can all send her an email demand she doesn't accept.
I think we should all worry about it. It's a proof that Trump will betray the public to please Pfizer.
Sometimes he pushes someone into the limelight to end there careers. Let’s see what happens.
IDK. I think she's just a shill who will say whatever her bosses tell her to say. Her bosses told her to say vaccines were great and masks worked, so she she said it. She doesn't seem like an intelligent sort of person who has well-thought-out views of her own. And...RFK Jr. is about to be one of her bosses, and was likely consulted on her nomination.
At this point, I've doubted DJT so many times and have been proven wrong over and over, that I'm just going to give him and his team the benefit of the doubt. Whoever is advising him now is WAY ahead of whoever was advising him after the 2016 election. Maybe there is a method to this.
E.g., could it be that she is the key to breaking through to the vaccine-addicted crowd? She's one of them (in their eyes), so would have more credibility than, say, Ladapo, in changing their minds. Hotez' approval of her could come back to bite all of them in the behind. That's just one example of how this might be a good pick. But, IDK. Just giving DJT and RFK the benefit of the doubt here.
With the nomination of Nesheiwat and continued praise for the death jab, Trump is telling you to your face that he really doesn't give a shit what you or any of his voters think.
Sometimes he's straightforward like that.
Patrick.net, go back to your website and bloviate there.
(Bloviate..intransitive verb
: to speak or write verbosely and windily pundits bloviating on the radio…or C&C!!)
Harpy, cranky, bilious, even bloviating today. Let him stay? Non-virulent case of TDS, grudging Trump voter, big-league Trump fan, whatever works if they make me laugh or think.
So, when you say, “telling you to your face,” you don’t mean he literally said, “[I don’t] give a shit what you or any of [my] voters think.” Is that correct?
Trump doesn’t have a good track record of selecting level-headed medical consultants. Remember that he brought in Birx for covid. She had ties to Fauci and HIV vaccine development failures.
I wonder if she represents a political version of the grocery store strategy of "Loss leader". Mr. Trump may plan to provide her with little real power.
That’s no excuse, IMO.
I dunno. I hesitate to underestimate President Artful Dealer.
Why? He got rolled by the permanent state the first time around. I don't know why people have so much faith in him until he actually proves himself.
Johnny-O, Juju, and patrick, I love you, but that’s ridiculous. You’re all smarter than that. Even if we dismiss what he’s proven as a father, developer, and entertainer, becoming one of only 40 elected presidents in 235 years is a massive accomplishment. Count shutting down ISIS, starting no wars, putting three conservatives on the Supreme Court, and growing a booming economy in the face of four years of warfare and two impeachments. Add dodging two assassination attempts and hanging in to win a second election—a third if we count right. Then add nominating a full cabinet of pretty impressive people six weeks ahead of taking office. If the complaint is he hasn’t confessed getting duped by the deep state that duped the world, we’re not even talking about proving accomplishments.
There are a lot of positive things to point out as you note. However, these threads are not short of people praising and nearly idolizing Trump. I come to lay relevant and valid criticisms. Even if I truly like a politician (which is extremely rare) I still end up largely criticizing them. That is our job as citizens as they are supposed to work for us. If we just fall in line, we continue to get shat on by our politicians.
And, I don't see Trump's OWS as being duped. I would be shocked if he didn't know what was going on, and if he didn't only a moron would trust big pharma swamp creatures. Sorry that sounds harsh, but that is where I am at when rubber hits the road. Not mincing words.
Likewise, I don't know why people have so little faith in him until he actually proves himself.
Yes, and THIS is the time to prove himself by finally admitting what everyone on earth who did even a little bit of research or watched people die from the jab knows:
The death jabs are horribly dangerous and worse than ineffective, making everyone who takes them and manages to survive _more_ likely to get seriously ill, not less.
Patrick.net, go back to your website and bloviate there.
(Bloviate..intransitive verb
: to speak or write verbosely and windily pundits bloviating on the radio…or C&C!!)
And why? Just exactly how much power does the Surgeon General wield? Let Mr. Trump do his work. He is playing a level of chess that most of us cannot begin to fathom. Just chill and let it play out.
No, betrayal to our faces is not something we should put up with for even a moment.
Patrick.net, go back to your website and bloviate there.
(Bloviate..intransitive verb
: to speak or write verbosely and windily pundits bloviating on the radio…or C&C!!)
Hold your horses: Does the Surgeon General actually have any real power? I just remember the guy with the beard and fancy name under Reagan and the idiot black woman Clinton had who talked about masturbation... Beyond that, do these people do anything other than PR stuff???
Well, the Indian fellow seemed to be a mouthpiece that sent recommendations out to state entities for their lockdowns, their mandatory jobs, etc. But they mostly relied on the CDC and FDA for ongoing (and printed) guidelines.
True. If that was Trump's appointee, I'll wager he was a deep-state plant. If he was Biden's, he was a potted plant.
C Everett Koop right?
Yes. And Jocelyn Elders.
Any soft-spoken, warm-hearted, upright human being would work.
I wonder why Trump didn't nominate Ben Carson in 2017. If he's still on his hind legs, he'd be the easiest confirmation ever and the first black, male, authentically intelligent SG in a long time.
Me too!!! And Trumps letter, releasing that news! Wth?!? He’s still bragging about Operation Warp Speed! 🤬 As if the DOD didn’t already have those generic therapies ready.. Somebody needs to straighten him out!!
Maybe those who have Truth Social and X accounts need to go inundate him with comments.
I thought he might have learned about the toxicity of OWS when he got booed at one of his early rallies after mentioning the clot shot. I guess not??
I think he learned quick to not tout OWS at rallies. Maybe showing it off draws some ever-vaxxer loyalty. Sounds like an unlikely slice of the electorate, but we're living in strange days. Regardless, I don’t see any upside at this point for him to say he was wrong. Plenty of people already blame him for the vaxxed dead and medically compromised. Must be quite the politically ticklish pinch. I think he should just shut up about it and pour all he can into remedies.
From a very good source:
“I believe that the SG has the final call on federal deployment of quarantines etc.”
Jeff, it was your Letter to Pastors during COVID that brought me to you. I hope you’ll connect that letter to what TD Jakes did in pushing the DeathVax. Please write us a “compare and contrast” post.
BTW, your George Washington smallpox rebuttal was brilliant. You’re a national treasure.
Do you have a link to the letter? The silence by our faith leaders in the face of Covid tyranny really turned me off to our church. I’d like to forward it to our rector even if it’s dated. Thank you!
You all need to read “Shepherds for Sale” by Meg Basham. It will Open your eyes.
Seconded. Excellent book (and applies to Catholics too).
In what way? My Priests didn’t push the jab at all.
My priest didn't get vaxxed, would not push it at all on the parishioners, refused to mandate it on the staff and went to genuinely amazingly lengths to work around restrictions on our parish imposed from above. All priests and all pastors are not the same.
You're lucky. Some in our diocese said it was a moral imperative and further would not assist parishioners in obtaining religious exemptions. Covid is not the only area of compromise. How many homilies do you hear on immigration and "welcoming the stranger" yet none on protecting the unborn? How many times have you heard about "accompanying the LGBTQ community" after shaming you to "remove the plank from your own eye before removing the speck from your neighbor's eye?" Social justice, or "woke" ideology is infiltrating Christian churches on every level and in the Catholic church it is particularly evident in the views of "lay pastoral associates" who lead discussion groups and organize education and outreach sessions. And, yes, as Maxstirner says, the "popeness" did support COVID shots saying to receive one was an "act of love" while the papal COVID advisory board went further and said it was a "moral obligation" to get vaccinated.
his popeness did..
If you go to the bottom of the article below where you would click to go into the comment section it’s right there along with a couple other posts of his. It’s called:
What the Church Needs to Know about Covid-19
I WAS VERY VOCAL about the Covid vaxx when it became a “thing”. Many friends and neighbors turned their backs on me because I felt it was too new to jump on-board. Some of my neighbors still flaunt that they just got their 5th vaxx, waiting for me to say something, but I no longer say anything. If I did say something, it would be “Are you nuts?!” One neighbor told me I was right because her doctor told her NOT to get another Covid vaccine. Each time she did, she wound up in the hospital and almost died of a heart attack twice! Another neighbor told me she was getting the flu shot and her Covid booster, and then said to me “Oh, you don’t believe in anything like that…” So glad I have a reputation! One neighbor is no longer here because she passed away from a sudden heart attack recently, and yes, she was one who actually had hatred for me because she knew where I stood. I take no pleasure in being right. But I am happy I saw through all the bs. Instincts are a wonderful thing! Pay attention to that inner voice, even if the world is against you. It saves lives.
I was very vocal too. I don’t regret it either. My kids were in college and didn’t want to take it but they were going into graduate school and the push was on all around them. I am grateful that so far they have not had any problems. I did give them the jab protocol stuff.
Thank you!
Thank you! Below is the link for others interested.
https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/what-the-church-needs-to-know-about-covid-19-2307dc2a111c?r=zfn2a&utm_medium=ios
Btw I find it interesting that when I search Substack’s main search box for the exact title of this post, it does not appear in results. (But if I search the C&C page it does.) It feels like SS’ algorithm suppresses some dissident articles. I also notice I get unsubscribed from C&C from time to time for no reason (unrelated to posting any comments). Strange.
Same. I get automatically cancelled from my subscription to A Midwestern Doctor too. It’s annoying. I only realize it when suddenly I can’t read an entire article and then I go look and it states I’m a free subscriber only. I’ve never once canceled on my end. 😂 AMD has a powerful reach too so I often wonder if SS does it on purpose.
Yes isn’t that odd? It’s especially strange given you have a paid subscription. I have many free subscriptions so I don’t always notice I’ve been unsubscribed from an author until I see a post appear in Notes and realize I didn’t receive the post in my inbox. Either the technology is faulty or there is some type of suppression, either reason is disappointing. Btw I too find AMD to be a very enlightening Substack, one of the best. Well good luck and happy reading (hopefully)!
Yes, brilliant judo rebuttal. Fighting fire with fire.
In all fairness to the vaxx, Jakes had heart attack written all over him before covid. But maybe he's what CDC means by “boosted.”
Star Parker has a similar approach relating abortion to slavery via the Dred Scott case in her congressional testimony. Watch until the end (its less than 6 min in total): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbU9P60YW4E
Excellent testimony.
Yes my introduction to ☕️ and covid was the letter to Pastors too
Friend went to urgent care for a knee injury a few days ago. She wore a mask…🙄 The nurse who saw my friend told her how useless the mask was, we never should have been locked down, stupid churches should not have closed, on and on. Finally a healthcare professional saying what we all know. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I too admire your smallpox/covid injection rebuttal. I may use that angle in the near future, if I may councilor.
Have a truly meaningful Thanksgiving, my best to you father.
Me too!
Same here!!!
Re: Vaccinated castigating the unvaccinated
We weren't silent. You were mocking us, or plugging your ears, or just too busy thinking about how you were "the good people."
Guaranteed we all tried. Still trying actually. I lost 4 friendships of over 25 years and the one who is still associating with me absolutely 💯 believes the shot is fabulous and will keep taking it. Refuses to even look at a single study. 🤷♀️ we still get together occasionally but she is convinced that I’m delusional. And darn if we didn’t feel all alone until we found C&C!
I have to allow others to be responsible for their own actions. So vaxxed folks… we tried we are still trying. We only had info that was available to everyone. No secret manifest.
Perhaps my aunt calling me a “selfish baby killer” and telling my sister that she was “unclean” and therefore had to sit outside at thanksgiving silenced me a bit but I did keep trying and I didn’t cut her out of my life and I still love her. What more could we do? Sorry so long! 🙁 thx for the comment Tonya.. I think being able to reply to you was a smidge therapeutic for me 😊
I have continued to try--albeit very delicately. But cousin, who has (proudly?) taken 5 "of the shots" responds to me "In what universe have you been living?"[I think I had dared to refer to the "scamdemic"]. Would you be surprised to learn that she is a dedicated reader of/listener to NYT, WaPo, NPR?
Lefty echo chambers. I have lots of friends like this.
I’m sorry you had to deal with all that 😕
All of this makes me think, though—why is it that it’s always *someone else’s* fault or responsibility with these people?? Never their own?? They couldn’t just do what we did, and inform *themselves*?? Why do they always think it’s up to someone else to inform them or tell them what to do? They NEVER seem to want to take responsibility for anything! 🙄
This. ⬆️
My husband and I got the very first shots that April 2021. I had just been through several tragedies in the prior 3-4 years and then needed a life saving surgery later that year, so I had not been following the news at all and didn’t have much contact with anyone outside our home. Luckily after my surgery I started to take charge of my health and that’s when I started to learned what I needed to. We never got any boosters. I didn’t learn enough in time to stop my youngest from getting one booster required by his university early in 2022 but I did learn soon enough to prevent him from getting any more. I never blamed anyone for our not knowing. I followed what I heard from my doctors without question. I “could” blame them if I wanted to, and I suppose they are somewhat to blame, but ultimately it was both my husband and my own fault for not finding the time to think/question/research. I have valid excuses for why I couldn’t, but he really doesn’t. Still, neither of us blame the other or anyone else. We blame ourselves and our own stupid, trusting, naivety at the time. It feels awful sometimes to look back at that, but I can feel better knowing I’m not that same person today and never will be again.
Or it could be that they are deliberately poking the bear to provoke these responses from us. I suspect they are playing games because how can anyone be SO stupid, but then again the victim mentality can be debilitating. Maybe their brains are fried. I literally laughed out loud at the audacity of the article.
Gma, I'm also still trying to warn people as well. And you're right in that everyone had access to the same info as we had.
I personally know 10 people who have died or were injured after being jabbed. So sad.
I lost at least half of my 1000 fb friends over speaking out. I stood freezing my butt off for hours in 20 degree weather holding signs on overpasses to stop the mandates. I disagreed with anyone who would listen. These people truly are insane.
I was reading an interview with Naomi Wolf and Dr. McCoullough. He said at a medical conference recently he and a colleague were at to present their clot shot death paper, a doctor came up to his colleague afterwards and said he had five shots in his arm and could no longer raise it, but said if a booster came out he'd just get it in his other arm. Mind boggling.
It reminds me of the quote (Mark Twain?): It’s easier to fool someone than convince them they’ve been fooled.
Spot on
This☝️
Just the type of intelligence you’d want in your doctor! 🙄
Yikes!
I too stood on the corners with my American flag with others. We were cheered and flipped off but we stood! We showed up with hundreds of others with our stacks of $20’s for our trucker rally’s. I have zero regrets! Well done STH! 👍
Me too. Attended many rallies.
#HoldTheLine
#AccountabilityNotAmnesty
#HonkHonk
#TurdeauMustGoNOW
Never underestimate the power of indoctrination and brainwashing.
Yeah I bet most of us could find a slew of Facebook or Twitter comments by these people where they say exactly that.
Not to mention all the "news" people saying the unjabbed should be banned from all public/social life, that the unjabbed should not be allowed to go anywhere in public including the grocery store, the doctor's office, or the hospital!
Here in Covidistan (WA state), we were not allowed to go to any restaurant, library, museum, theater, ball game, concert, etc. because a vax card was required for entrance. The Mr. missed out on attending Seahawks & Mariners games with his brothers because of those illegal & unConstitutional mandates. 😡😠
Mrs. "the Knife"
I missed out on my 50th College Reunion--the more poignant because 2 generations before me-- 5 women (not so many women took an A.B. in 1906 and 1914), and 2 in generation under me were alumnae--because only the vaxxed could attend. My daughter represented four generations of MHC women.
I am so sorry you missed out on your reunion. What a wonderful legacy for the women in your family! It is just so infuriating!
Early on, I tended to focus on people unable to be with family members while they were dying in hospitals and then unable to have/attend funerals. One of my grandmas passed away 3 weeks shy of her 100th birthday. No funeral, just some family members gathered in a living room. The weddings, new babies, bridal and baby showers. The graduations missed. Birthdays, celebrations of all kinds (other grandma turned 100 and we were "allowed" to drive past the care facility while she sat in her wheelchair on the sidewalk). And now, high school and college reunions.
We must never forget and must keep reminding others of what actually happened.
Mrs. "the Knife"
A grandma reaching 100—but for 3 weeks, and then no real gathering of those who loved her.
She was amazing - most people at our church considered her their "grandma"! The sanctuary would have been packed to the rafters, but of course the church was closed due to "King" Inslee's mandates. I am still having trouble forgiving church leaders for not standing up for the congregation's right to assemble, like Pastor Artur Pawlowski (sp?) in Canada. Pretty sure there aren't any Bonhoeffers in WA state.
Mrs. "the Knife"
This just disgusts me to no end!! 😡🤬
My niece in the army national guard was forced to use a separate locker room because she refused to vax.
While that is discrimination and wrong, perhaps she was spared from being shed on by all her vaxxed colleagues? Might be a blessing in disguise.
Mrs. "the Knife"
Couldn't go to Husky football games because of the stupid mandates
What kind of a team player are you? <sarc> My ex sister-in-law got the vaxx so she could go to a Buffalo Bill's game.
When I read the AFRU.com article, my first thoughts were it was tongue in cheek. Then read in the ABOUT section of AFRU, it said, "Science is true". And for kickers it said [AFRU] is "Karen Controlled. Absolutely"
No dates on anything is a turn off which makes go down its all fake.
Regarding Trump, plenty of character flaws I can look past, but the one that troubles me the most is he never apologizes, never admits a mistake. Has anyone ever heard him admit a mistake in judgement? He will never admit that the jabs were horrific. It is beyond his capacity to admit this fact. On the other hand, who would?
I wonder if part of it is about being sued. It seems like people others at the drop of a hat. If I was his lawyer, I expect would tell him to move forward and not say anything because it will not change the past. However, he is given an opportunity to right some wrongs and let’s see if he goes after Fauci and the rest of them.
Good point MayBella82! Lets see where this adventure is taking us.
He admitted mistakes during the Joe Rogan interview. So he is definitely capable.
Thank you Juju. I did not have the time to listen to the Rogan/Trump interview and only caught parts of it.
Your welcome. Unfortunately Covid wasn’t one of the mistakes he admitted making. That would have been nice. LOL But his admission to trusting the wrong people sort of spoke to how he realized he was misguided in many decisions he made. As well as the mistakes he made in his appointments. It’s a really good interview.
Yes, I am reading excerpts now. For now, we are where we are; what comes next--stay tuned and have pop corn on standby.
Hard to tell to those who won't listen.
I was struck by the number of times Jesus says (in the first 3 gospel accounts--haven't yet come upon it in John) "Let those who have ears, hear". Which implies that he knew/knows perfectly well that there are some who will never listen. My husband yesterday in response quipped, " Didn't Jesus say 'The clueless you will have with you always.' ?"
Perfect picture
Maybe Living Bible translation? 😉😄
Mrs. "the Knife"
Very "Living" Bible indeed!
That was probably the craziest crazy take on anything i've seen or read over the last 5 years. The vaccinated are now (once again) the victims of the unvaccinated...this time b/c we didn't warn them enough last time?!? What happened to the "pandemic of the unvaccinated?" The "grandma killers" are now the bad people only b/c they didn't advocate strongly enough for what was being called "grandma killing" at the time? I guess no was literally thrown in jail, as we saw across the West? No one was de-platformed, de-monetized, or experienced any lawfare for saying what so many of us knew to be true? We just didn't try hard enough? L.O.L.
Oh, and the "flipped a coin" nonsense: we didn't "flip a coin" and we didn't "guess" the right answer. We knew it. Which is why we had the resolve we did to survive the attacks we survived. No one has ever - in a century of trying - developed an effective vaccine for a coronavirus. (No, the flu "vaccines" do not work by any normal person's definition of "work.") We knew this. We also knew there was no way these things were adequately tested in a few months, since such testing requires years. An untested, novel technology never used at this scale? It wasn't hard to "guess" the right answer. Oh, and it matters that we also knew covid was 0% deadly for the vast majority of the population.
So, really, if they're gonna complain at this point, I have no pity for their situation at all. If they can't admit they brought this on themselves - and everyone else - then may they live in the hell of their own making.
5 billion % spot on.
But it’s so typical of them. It’s always someone else’s job to tel them what to do and make decisions for them. That way, they can always blame someone else and have zero responsibility for their choices 🙄
they had the same information but chose to ignore that the death jabs were - experimental - and that some of us would rather wait for confirmation (which we now know will never come) than become a lab rat for Pharma
I told my doc of 20+ years that I did not want to be a guinea pig. She ghosted me as she flew out of the exam room. I guess I should have warned her harder?
Why is it even OUR responsibility to warn THEM???
It's not our responsibility. You're right. In this case it was my way of saying that I was not going to get it. I was shocked by her response. Maybe if I had been keeping up with the MSM fear porn I wouldn't have been so shocked. This was March of 2021. I haven't been back to see her.
The way people responded to those who refused the shots was truly eye opening 😕
LOL!
Yep. I went many rounds with friends and others about the dangers of the clot shot. I was censored on FB all the time for putting up the Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, Zinc combo. So, color me, "I don't give a shit about Jakes. And I don't give a shit about the whiny AFRU."
Exactly. We weren’t silent. We were silenced. We were ridiculed, hated and loathed. We were threatened with a ‘dark winter of death’ and possibly being sent to camps. Anyone blaming the ‘silence’ of the unvaxxed just wasn’t listening because they were too busy screaming at us.
I just had a good laugh at the woke crowd blaming the unvaccinated. These people never learn, they are perpetual victims, always blaming others and never taking personal responsibility for themselves. So I suppose they are victims - of their own stupidity. And as the comedian said, “you can’t fix stupid”.
And we can’t forget the smarmy Hollywood shills: only people who are vaxxed may come to my house, said by Jennifer what’s-her-name, married for awhile to Brad Pitt. 🙃😜
I went so far as to hold up a sign at intersections once the "vaccines" started to be pushed on little kids.
We went to a vaccination center to hand out literature and talk to people if they were willing to listen - same as you, when they started pushing them on kids because how could we not?
Just trying to get people to slow down and wait to take it was impossible. They were lining up as soon as they could.
Looks like there are a lot of limited hangout attempts. I think the New York Times article that Jeff cites also tries to avoid mentioning who was really responsible for all those repressive policies. They say it’s “Activists, academics and experts”— and ignore those who made so much money on the lockdown economy. (The people they blame were just the useless idiot helpers.)
I choose thanksgiving.
“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”
Philippians 4:6-7 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/php.4.6-7.NKJV
Psalm 86:12 I will praise you, Lord my God, with all my heart;
I will glorify your name forever.
Amen
Agreed. At the very least, WW III might be short and regional. If Trump can't get it stopped, then maybe thanksgiving might be the sucker's take. But for now, it seems much better than the whacko's of the past 4 yrs.
For sure!
Who is like You among the gods, O Yahweh?
Who is like You, majestic in holiness,
Fearsome in praises, working wonders?
You stretched out Your right hand,
The earth swallowed them.
In Your lovingkindness You have guided the people whom You have redeemed;
In Your strength You have led them to Your holy habitation.
— Exodus 15:11-13 LSB
Majestic in holiness and offering help to the weary.
“Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light."
— Matthew 11:28-30
Jeff, more information on those churches that were being purchased to push the plandemic narrative and killshots:
https://tritorch.com/degradation/USGovBribedChurchLeadersToPushCOVIDInjectionVaccineOnTheirMembersRootOfAllEvil.pdf [pdf]
Here’s hoping C&C readers abandoned any ships that were working for the government during the biggest scam of our lifetimes, and found a honest house of worship to call home. Those that resisted the temptation of the almighty dollar earned your trust. Those that didn’t torched it.
Covid opened many religious eyes. I saw, for the first time, how my Catholic Church had been infiltrated. I now attend the Traditional Latin Mass and worship among devout believers in Our Lord Jesus Christ. The ‘woke’ won’t force me out of my own Church as we stand up for traditional faith.
We too are searching for the Latin mass!
https://www.latinmass.com/
Thanks for the link! I look at the locations, and Florida is surprisingly not well covered. Only a few on the whole east coast.
I wonder if you could do something about that?
https://fssp.com/locations/
These are on the western part of Florida.
I’m not catholic but I would like to attend a Latin one. I think with the rest of the liturgy it would be a very spiritual experience. God can still speak to someone through any outward seeking of Him. No matter the language.
There is a group, Floriani, that sings Traditional Latin chants. Their latest album is called "Chants of Deliverance" (available on iTunes) and the "Dies Ires" is truly a spiritual experience. If you can't find a Latin Mass, listen to some of their music.
From my perspective ( as a student of a few languages) I find that He speaks to me more clearly when I am "working" in a language not native to me. When I read the scriptures in English I miss so many points!
I attend the FSSP Church in Rapid City, SD. I’ve been to the one in Littleton, CO and it was excellent. Sadly, when I visit NC the TLM is very hard to find. The FSSP, SSPX and the ICKSP have numerous churches in the US but I pray many more will become available. Slowly, the Vatican is removing the TLM from each Novus Ordo parish …
My Catholic Church was awesome and never once pushed the jab. I wonder if some of it came down from the diocese. My Catholic Church was a religious order so they don’t fall under the diocese for matters like that.
Eastern Orthodox is looking better and better BUT you have to be careful about which denomination and who ultimately controls it....
Prayers up for Pastor Jakes, no one wants to see another person suffer the way he did. Hope he recovers soon.
Though he is ill and we pray for him, that doesn't shield him from criticism. TJ Jakes has a *long* history of teaching non-biblical doctrine, most notably the prosperity gospel ("name it and claim it"). This teaching really is cancerous as it completely twists the gospel turning God into a genie that grants "believers" wishes provided they play the game correctly. This is so at odds with the whole counsel of God that it cannot be condemned strongly enough.
It's so surprise people that don't know the Bible (or perhaps do know it but teach it falsely) got sucked completely into the whole Covid narrative. Even worse, they promoted it. There needs to be a serious reckoning in the church along with the public health and medical establishment.
During the mask freak period, I sat through a sermon where the priest articulated quite strongly the sinfulness of living in fear. After Mass I commented to him the irony of saying such to a congregation full of people wearing masks. To which he replied: "some things are worth being afraid of." Okay padre, I'm off to another parish.
Terrible answer, as I don't recall seeing the mask exception to "trust God and do not fear" in the Bible.
One though can exercise caution and good judgment without being fearful. I don't recklessly speed through red lights to show I'm trusting God. Solid scientific evidence that shows the benefits of masking outweighs the risks, along with a reasoned decision to wear a mask based on that evidence, would qualify. But of course that evidence doesn't exist and it wasn't why people were wearing masks. It was usually out of fear or virtue signaling.
Another valid reason was to comply with the orders of the civil authority put in place by God as we are told to do in Romans 13. However, many Christians continued to wear masks longs after those orders were rescinded.
If the government issues a dictate that requires me to non-verbally signal that I disbelieve the Gospel and do not trust God, I will not comply, and with a clear conscience.
Romans 13 is not a blanket statement to always obey every rule issued by civil authorities, as is evidenced by numerous godly people in the Bible disobeying rules set forth by man, like "bow down and worship this statue of me," for instance. Since masks were ineffective, wearing them just to comply with civil authorities was lending support to a lie, or several lies.
Romans 13 clearly states that "rulers are not a terror to good works. but to evil." It says that in order to be unafraid of authority, we should do what is good and we will be commended by said authority. Paul goes on to say that the ruler is God's messenger, avenging wrath on the evildoer. SO . . . what if the rulers actually ARE a terror to good works? What if we do good and are PERSECUTED by authorities? What if our authorities are avenging wrath on the doers of GOOD? Seems to me there is room for resistance even in scripture, particularly when the authorities jailed Christians, even put them to death, just for being followers of The Way. Otherwise they wouldn't have lowered Paul down in a basket through an opening in the wall (Acts 9:24) to subvert plans to have him executed--he would have just let himself be arrested. (Use the senses you have that have been honed to discern good from evil.)
Yes, completely agree. We must not obey civil authorities when they command us to violate God's word. This would mean either commanding us to do something the Bible prohibits, or forbidding us to do something the Bible requires.
My point was that would have been a *biblical* response JohnS's question to his pastor. They then could have dug into if either of the two conditions above apply. Instead his pastor told him "trust God and do not fear" is just a platitude, free to be ignored if one is so inclined.
This is the point that is always missed. Our subservience and obedience MUST always be in terms of the standard of God's Law. That is the standard of righteousness. But the church today ignores and discounts the law of God. "God is love!" No... God is righteousness and He brings judgement and blessings in terms of His Law Word. American Christianity is wandering in the wilderness of ignorance concerning His Law. We don't believe in it anymore - except for insincere lip service. "The people perish for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6
Ah.. I don’t see much these days that qualifies as orders from Godly leaders. That is I see very few Godly leaders. So I don’t obey if things seem “off”. Going through red lights could harm others absolutely. That’s an easy one, Jeff. It was a little harder to discern what we just went through with only an attitude of obedience to power. Unless I’m reading “valid reason” wrong. Masks were wrong and plenty of evidence (like over 150 studies prove it) what about the developmental delay in children now being studied? I could go on and on but won’t. . Blessings and happy thanksgiving.
Don't forget we were commanded to stand in our 6 foot circle of life.
There was a scientist who spoke out about how bad the mask were and that we will see the side effects for years to come. One side effect which bothered me a lot was the onset of dementia would happen even younger in people the other was delay in learning for children.
"They" successly propagandized people that the masks were about saving others people's lives instead of your own.
Guilt might be second only to fear as a means for government's manipulation of the masses.
More for some
Holy cow!
Wow 😡
You said, "There needs to be a serious reckoning in the church along with the public health and medical establishment."
I agree, but I would add that "there needs to be a serious reckoning in the church *regarding its deference to* the public health and medical establishment.
Too many Christians think there is a divide between God and science, and specifically medical science. They think it is morally wrong not to listen to the experts, and say things like "God gave us modern medicine, vaccines, medical technology, etc. as means by which He can heal us." But they use no discernment whatsoever in deciding whether or not to follow the advice of their physicians. And so many people in each congregation work in the field of medicine, and are seen as caring and altruistic, and I don't doubt that many of them truly want to help people. It's just that they themselves have been led astray by the system, and no one wants to criticize medicine because they don't want to be seen as ignorant or uncaring.
I've concluded that most people only believe in God up to the point where believing in God becomes scary, unsettling, life course altering, and so on. Most people little understand what 'the purpose of Man is to glorify God' really means ... nor how to abide in that. And it seems that locking up churches, wearing masks, social distancing, wearing the abjectly stupid plastic face shields and bowing down to the god-state took first row seat precedence over Man's prime duty which again ... is to Glorify God in all things. During the C19 Terror Campaign all Christian sourced and based reason was chucked out the window (actually most astonishingly, it apparently was not even there in the first place!).
C-19 really opened my eyes, clarified to a large extent as to what people were really about with 'actions speaking louder than words' as the highest tier of good instruction.
You know, that reminds me of the Israelites who, even after being delivered from Egypt through the water, still had no idea what the purpose of man was and that generation had to die in the wilderness.
True.
If doctors want to "help people" for the sake of generating good feelings in their flesh, then they have their reward. If, by disregarding epistemic responsibility, they harm people in the same vein, they will answer for it to a Holy God.
You are NOT referring to Energy Density Frequency Medicine that is ALTERNATIVE medicine with NO side-effects that God did give us so we don't have to worry about sickness or big pharma or expensive doctors, etc. It works in about 10 minutes and costs 2 cents per treatment. See for more info: https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/c20e94f3-e60c-4e6d-83d8-8ef854f2fcac
Exactly Tonya.
Everyone needs to read the book by Megan Basham, Shepherds for Sale. Very revealing!
Thank you, Deb! I was about to post the same thing. A must read!
You are so welcome! It is sure eye-opening!!!
Excellent book!
Thanks Jeff. So many claim Christianity yet do not have a spiritual awakening. They toot religion which is the same thing the Pharisees and Sadducees did. Jesus said it, "You have to be born again by the Holy Spirit!" Many Christians do not get this and still only live in the flesh.
Not only Prosperity Gospel but he’s non-Trinitarian. Just another religious huckster.
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Not specific to religious leaders, but Open The Books published an article a couple days ago on government spending to “combat covid misinformation”, this one of the items they uncovered:
“$1,293,614, Department of Health and Human Services, University of Iowa. To leverage trusted community members to address “disparities in COVID testing and vaccine uptake.”
No details on how many people they paid off with that sum, but this likely applies across the whole country. If they were pushing the shots, the were getting $$$.
https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/taxpayer-funded-censorship-how-government?
Watch session 4 of Event 201 and you'll see their game plan... which included influencing church leaders.
The attack on Christians in many cases was right under our very noses. Killing them off via "vaccine" injection was purposeful. And they will be judged accordingly by the God that they deny. Or rather, they will judge themselves pretty badly when they are unable to lie to Him. If I'm to understand many NDE stories (Near Death Experiences), your THOUGHTS are communicated instantly to people. They will seek to hide from Him.
Also Meghan Basham's book "Shepherds for Sale."
I am on my 2nd reading of this book! Excellent read... and very eye opening!
I found a fantastic Christian church. The dynamic pastor in a nearby town refused to shut down during covid. They kicked him out. He opened a new church in my town about a year ago and I am back in the fold after decades of giving up on organized religion. It’s a breath of fresh air after all the Catholic guilt.
The PCUSA went for the narrative, pushed it on their website. That finished it for me, though a member for 26 years.
I'm SURE our church would not have taken any financial bribes as they do not in all other areas. However, I have heard through the grapevine (well, a relative who knows one of the top leaders) that our church leadership were arm twisted pretty hard. I don't know how, but another top leader said later in the context of the lockdowns and inability to worship (being unconstitutional), "Never again!"
Read “Shepherds for Sale” by Meg Basham.
Member when New York Governor Kathy Hochul gave a sermon at a church that the vaccine was from god and she needed everyone to be apostles on getting more people jabbed? While wearing a necklace that said VAXXED? I member! https://nypost.com/2021/10/05/gov-kathy-hochul-defends-calling-nyc-churchgoers-my-apostles/
But it was to be expected from political figures like Hochul, or Jha, who claimed God gave us 2 arms: one for the flu shot, and one for the covid shot.
What really hurt was hearing from authors and pastors I previously respected that masking and getting vaccinated was the morally correct action to take. Their spiritual discernment was exposed to be lacking right from the beginning when they participated in the state's orders to stay away from each other and from those with physical and spiritual needs.
Agreed on that last point - and the "Shepherds for Sale" book went into some interesting details about far too many cases where those big name leaders compromised themselves for various purposes. The whole "Collins / BigE" summit notwithstanding, there are far too many who bought into the experts and then pushed it on their flocks. :(
Local church leaders need to do a very difficult thing: sit down with the members of their congregations who work in health care and present to them the possibility that they are in a cult. Some of them realize that their industry is corrupt, and they are just working within it to provide balance and prevent harm. Some believe in it too strongly, and don't question anything, setting aside all critical thinking and deferring to the "experts". It really is idol worship, and they need to be rebuked for it.
Present the health care professionals with the concept of epistemic responsibility.
It's not science to believe at his word a man in a white coat. The abandonment of science was readily apparent to the most casual observer. These people had a responsibility to know this.
I listened to two interviews with the author of that book. Difficult medicine to swallow—but life saving benefits on the other side. It is in my Cyber Monday shopping cart!
Reading “Shepards for Sale” now. It’s an eye opener!
Exactly.
It's my suspicion that a great many "pastors" could not write a single sermon without cribbing extensively from commentaries.
I think you are right. And the result is a lot of insane mumble-jumbo comes out of the mouths of the alleged pastorate ... and because of this the people are not shepherded other than over the cliff. And by this failure in pastorate duty the leaders of nations are not thereby held to any account. And few are those who say it as it is.
Nice to see this comment! Because it is truth spoken.
One could just as easily claim that God gave us two knees for bowing down to Ba'al.
The depravity of the "sound bite."
"Jesus wants you to vaxx."
Jesus actually says, right in the Good Book, NOT to touch dead things— unless
you’re
cooking and eating them. I am 110% certain He doesn’t want the DNA of aborted babies injected into ANY of us, yet here we are. JusttheInserts.org
Sure he does... :)
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She’s a ghoul 😡
So sickening.
—“Nothing has changed! Nothing about Democrats has changed except, for a long time, the Democrats were able to fool minorities and working-class whites into thinking they’d abandoned their elitist, slave-owning roots. They tricked the same groups that, down south, the Democrats had consistently fooled before the Civil War.”
This. So much this!!! They have only pretended to be the champions of the working classes, the poor, the downtrodden, in order to gain power. They’ve always thought of themselves as our “betters” and entitled to tell the rest of the population how to live. Talk to most die-hard Democrats nowadays and really listen to what they say—you’ll find beneath the veneer of “caring” is an assumption that they know better and should be able to dictate to others what life choices to make. Their condescending comments about the “uneducated” betray that, as does their credentialism.
Also Jeff, I absolutely LOVE your argument about the mandates, brilliant! So glad the judge has enough sense to agree with your very logical assertion!
Sharp insights, RL. Apparently, too many Boomers still believe in peace at any price, but our legacy—Gen X in particular—sees through the Dem smoke screens of big brother and bold lies. Now, if all who recognize the obvious will turn out for midterms . . .
Agreed. I read somewhere that the election of 2024 was akin to a slave revolt, only this time it was the tax slaves. I think this is an insightful comment.
Tax slaves is a great way of putting it!
I’ve been using that phrase for a few years now. The govt absolutely keeps us in our place with taxes and tax policy, I think it applies.
The IRS definitely is used as a whip to keep the tax slaves in line 😕
Now we need a full-scale revolution of the people in the inner cities of New York, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Los Angeles etc, etc, etc, to look around and realize how badly they’ve been lied to and used by the perpetual democrat machine. Looks like it started this cycle… has a lot more room to grow!
I'll always disagree with this take. The "elitist slave-owning roots" are Jefferson, Madison, Washington, etc. They were our founding fathers. You can reject them, but I won't. And "down south" for generations, the Democrats were the party of small government, where as the Republicans were the big government party. That was the case until communists infiltrated the Democratic party, and longtime conservatives, even Reagan, defected and converted the GOP to the small government party. The Democrats didn't fool minorities and working class - they adopted policies which actively harm them (Communism).
I don't hold the slavery issue against the Founders at all. I get fatigued with the left's slavery obsession/cudgel. As with most everything, they are lying about it and have the story backwards.
Slavery was the dominant economic arrangement for most of the world for most of human history. It was likely invented by "black and brown" people, as those pyramids weren't going to build themselves. It was entirely common for ruling classes to have slaves of one sort or another, especially "black and brown" ruling classes.
So, the only thing unique about the US when it comes to slavery is that we ended it - pretty much for the world. We should feel proud about our role regarding slavery, not ashamed of it. In fact, I count at least 3 things that America gave the world that were truly progressive and genuinely humanitarian: 1A, 2A, and the end of slavery.
And IMO, that is why so many elites still hate America: we limited their power and ended their preferred way of doing business. (And Marxism/communism/etc. is just an intellectualized form of slavery.)
Well said!!
Very insightful! Thanks!
Yes, exactly. The ONLY reason people bring up slavery is to use it as a cudgel. It's one thing for the left to do it - I expect that. The modern day Democrats are so terrible as it is, I don't need Jeff or anyone else to bring up slavery as proof of how terrible the Democratic Party is. His piece is worthy of the NYTimes 1619 project.
The Democrats only were the party of the little guy and as much as they could control the little guy particularly through powerful unions. Which were just a different form of big government for the little guy in his workplace.
Also, the reason why the communist/socialist so easily fit into the Democrat party is because they’re so similar in terms of wanting to control the little guy.
Are there any of the big political bosses from the 1800s and early 1900s that were Republican? I’m asking, because I don’t know. But there were sure an awful lot of powerful Democrats that operated their cities like their own personal kingdom.
Exactly.
Imho, back then the Republicans were the party of cities and big business. Communist infiltration was never going to work out in that party.
The GOP political bosses of that era were the Rockefellers, thus the term "Rockefeller Republican".
I would argue that the Democrats only wanted “small government” so no one would interfere with their abuses of people’s rights. The government has an obligation to enforce the bill of rights and ensure those freedoms are not infringed on. I don’t think “big government” in the 19th century was quite the same thing as “big government” in the 20th. Kind of like the Chamber of Commerce style defenses made of businesses with mask and jab mandates being sold as “businesses should be free to be run as the owner sees fit, without interference. Just shop/work somewhere else.”
Southern conservatives were adamantly opposed to what we refer to today as Corporate Welfare. The term "lobbyist" was coined by U.S. Grant. Yes, conservatives lost that war. They were afraid a strong central government would infringe on the rights of States to remain sovereign in their governance. They lost that war, too.
That has very little to do with my comment. Not sure what you’re trying to argue here.
And yet, those particular slave owners put into place a system where the average person, the non elites, without titles or riches, had unheard of freedoms and rights.
Actually, both parties were infiltrated. NeoCon worship, afterall, springs from the Trotskyites who seeing that they were not getting anywhere fast decided to change their spots with an optical remake. Too much to go into now, but it was both of the two main political parties which have pushed America over the cliff and into the pit. Trump has shaken things up a great deal, but!
The but is that everything is political doings is a mirage, a grand illusion. And it still remains to be seen what comes out of this new swirling of 'change'.
The NeoCons were originally Democrats. I think they moved into the Republican party because they didn't like the Dems 'hippie' culture at the time, but I'm not sure.
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Most of the left/Dem policy failures come down to their own misplaced or deranged version of "caring." It's become a pseudo-religion to them. Their decades-long failures in the fields of medicine, healthcare, criminal justice, and finance are obvious examples. Their failure in mental health (incl. "transgenderism") is maybe the most glaring. It's obvious to most of us regular people that enabling selfishness, laziness, stupidity, criminality, addiction, delusion, or insanity is never good...but enablement is a well they go to often in the name of "caring."
In their minds, they just "know better" b/c the "studies say" - which is the same as saying b/c their god says so. (Funny that their god always seems to demand more government and more spending, in the name of "caring.") Despite all the evidence from actual outcomes and the mountains of pushback from regular non "chosen" people, they just keep going with a failed ideology. Hubris. Is it a coincidence they named their signature "achievement" Pride? Is it a coincidence that's also a deadly sin?
Agree. And there is definitely a pride component to it imo (and not just the rainbow kind).
Wow, worried, and Coffee cooling off.
Praise GOD for you.
Praying for our country!
Praying for President Trump and his Team!
Be Well & Be Blessed, Phillip
I truly do get concerned whenever C&C doesn’t happen until after 9:15ish. I usually start praying for Jeff’s
dad. 😜
"I explained to the judge that, like George Washington, the city considered its employees to be property. Municipal employees were just a cattle-like herd to be immunized solely because the paternalistic city thought best." Holy COW!!! That is brilliant, and I am betting that YOU are the only person who ever thought of that argument. I think EVERY attorney should have that argument at the forefront of their lawsuits!!!!
I also think there was a component of Washington being their military leader and soldiers are expected to obey their leaders. A very different situation from ordinary employees and citizens being mandated.
TD Jake’s is a modalist and therefore a heretic. No I don’t wish evil on him, but we should be praying for his salvation, not just his health.
He’s also a prosperity preacher and no doubt was launching into another one of those type of sales pitch based on Jeff’s description of what he was saying before he collapsed. So I wouldn’t use the word Christian in association with him and probably not many of his followers either although I’m sure they think they are.
On the other hand I used to attend the charismatic type church that many of the hood people followed folks like Jakes and Hinn and Copeland etc. I was new in the faith and I thought that was legitimate because people I respected did also. But as I read the Bible and learned more I moved away from all of that.
Nothing like knowing what the Bible actually says to help you decide what is true.
He was also videotaped at a Diddy birthday party. Not good at all.
Kim Dotcom has had a stroke. Note that the rotund genius took The Jab after 'research'.
https://twitter.com/DecentraliseP/status/1860949059336556871
Here's his research.
https://twitter.com/RealLifeDoomer/status/1861028042933452877
(edited to fix first link to his tweets about getting the jabs and having the stroke)
I've been hearing about lots of strokes lately and cancer and heart attacks.
One highly vaxxed county in Washington state is suddenly having an explosion of heart attacks.
And you will likely
continue hearing abt them. OpenVAERS.com
JusttheInserts.org
#DiedSuddenly will all flip your
lid. Pulling back the curtain is imperative, though chilling.
Yes. I follow him on X
I've seen a few writings recently by higher profile people who say that deaths will continue to increase over the 5 years after the shots. Cancer will be the big one. Heart problems being the other.
Yep. "I see dead people" since early EARLY 2021.
And dying.
And permanently injured.
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And I warned and I pleaded to no avail. My son is a victim of Turdeau's insidious mandates.
#AccountabilityNotAmnesty
#NeverForget
So sorry about the injuries to your son. So many victims. Too many to count.
If he was in NZ at the time he took it, he's in good company. NZer's were forced to take it by the then PM, Ardern.
Yes. I was sort of addicted to Spaces for a while there, and listened to a long one about censorship and KDC got into it with a few ppl about covid. Texas Lindsay was hosting. It knocked my opinion of him down several notches.
But he’s an independent thinker who would have defied the order if he didn’t want to take it.
I work at a nonprofit and the lady who volunteers on Mondays is suffering afib and planning a pacemaker. Her brother just got one.
She said today that there is no heart history in her family, but all three siblings, in their 70s, are having heart issues.
She said she thinks it must have been the shots.
Same with my FIL
Wow!! This is big news. Hope he recovers and lives to know the truth.
I made the mistake of clicking on that Toke Two website. I read about sixty words and closed it. These people are vile beyond my wildest comprehension.
It was like staring into the abyss.
Like staring into the Harris and Newscum base.
Growing up in Newark NJ among many blacks, I can tell you that more are aligned with republican values than the mainstream wants everyone to think.
Similar experience. Unfortunately, many have no faith in the system and refuse to vote. Maybe this election will re-define black power.
Here in El Paso, Texas, someone running for public office said that a lot of Hispanics just don't know that they aren't blue - meaning that historically they have voted Democrat, but their values align more closely with Republicans.
I agree
Happy Monday!!
Wow finally got in the first comment for once! 😁
Congratulations. :)
It’s ridiculous how much joy I get out of that happening 😆😁
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Same!
I’ve done that before but it never lasts. Not sure how it works, but if I’m in the first 100 I feel like I accomplished something. lol
Right?? Same 😆
Woohoooo!
LOL!!!
Fun !
You’re early!!
Yes, I’ve been soooo busy in the mornings for the past few weeks, that I haven’t been able to open C&C until one (or two or four 😆) hundred people have already left comments!
And here I am at 11:00 pm finally getting to it. 🤣 Normally I’m one of the first here, but I’ve been really busy lately trying to work through house clutter/piles of paperwork from the past 10 years. If I opened up C&C first I’d never get to any of it. I knew I had to consciously choose NOT to open Substack. Lolol
I hear you! It’s been kind of the same for me, trying to get through my to-do list and finally finish some projects that have been on the back burner for a while. Also I have had more work than usual, so just haven’t had the time to read and comment much here lately.
The massive illegal immigration supported by Democrats also worked against them. They got increased population in blue cities leading to more seats in Congress and Electoral College votes, and the possibility of harvesting ballots. But they alienated their base, because much of the movement towards Republicans was from groups directly impacted by the immigrants, and the grotesque unfairness of all the money given to immigrants.