Maybe she could. I dunno, reflect upon why, exactly, getting people to use her preferred pronouns was "exhausting." Perhaps because to most it's a pointless exercise aside from stroking her narcissism? 🙄
Exhausting for her??? Dear lord, what about her victims, the poor people looking at a woman and being told they must remember to call her "him," or "he," or, "it" or, "they" or whatever?? What gaslighting and mental abuse abuse! It creates cognitive dissonance and disorientation for the victim of these lies and manipulations!
If I was a parent or teacher in all this insanity "hey you!" would become my method to reach all the delusional individuals in my immediate vicinity- indulging this madness is deadly for OUR mental health, imho.
It's another thing when dealing with the truly mentally ill, of course. Patience and understanding, kindness and love are required.
And perhaps even playing along with a delusion, occasionally. I am not however, a skilled psychologist and will leave those situations to the professionals!
But in my home or classroom?
You better buckle-up because I'm going to behave as if you are a sane individual capable of rational thought, which frankly precludes you from swapping your gender at will, and any attempt to make me believe you can do so will immediately be a cause for psychiatric care. We should not have to deal with this madness.
It's the gender-benders that are abusing the rest of us, that's my take. And it's time it ended.
This is what I dislike most about the current state of affairs: the constant gaslighting. It's abusive and makes people feel like they can't trust their own minds. It creates all this noise that makes it impossible to think clearly. It makes them feel crazy. Then they start acting crazy. It's high time we insist that people tell the truth - cut them off when they lie. We know cancel culture works!
It’s extremely confusing when reading an article about a plural pronoun person and trying to figure out who the other person or people are then realizing the plural is referring to a single person 🙄 Makes zero sense but I guess that goes perfectly with these people since THEY make no sense (and have no sense either!).
Lol that’s pretty funny and also a good point 😆 There is a reason for a dedicated and specific plural form! It’s for clarity! Kind of the opposite of all of this woke nonsense.
I haven't watched the "news" for years. I even hate it when a clip is used in something I'm reading or watching. I mute the sound and ff. First, I can't stand the sight of demons and their minions, and second, but actually co-first, I can't stand lies.
I wrote a 'blog post about the trans movement on another medium, but it got convoluted and I'm not proud of it, so I won't repost. (May revisit here and rewrite entirely, but ... The original was crappy.) It's a sticky sticky subject, but one that I have an odd degree of familiarity with, so I can't seem to let it go.
HOWEVER, I did make the point there that I do respect why some folks in this society choose to present as the other sex, and that I respect their wishes within my own parameters. (Which are mine.) I have a friend who was born a dude, but whom I met as a presenting trans female, and I cannot at ALL think of this person as "he." It feels not only disrespectful, but wrong, to me. I met her as a her. She's a STRONG female, but female, to me. Her aura is purple.
But ... She is a trans person who wishes to be a "she." Some folks don't ... I think, TBH, that the "they/thems" are mostly asexual. And there's nothing wrong with that. But they aren't plural!
Yes, gay people can most certainly be cured! My sister who was a lesbian for 25 years or more was cured by the blood of Jesus Christ. She grew up in church so this was not foreign to her. Initially, she was involved with Crossover, a ministry to help gay people, with many hours of counseling. She has given her testimony at churches, prisons, conferences, etc. She has said that many in the homosexual movement are suicidal, feel unloved, and do not want to be that way. She continues to counsel women and has been married (Biblical kind-one man one woman) for almost 9 years.
I just read in RT (an excellent news resource by the way) that 'The Russian President has ordered the creation of a special institute focused on examining homosexuality and gender identity'....
'Amid a lower parliament discussion of a bill that would ban sex change operations in Russia, Murashko was asked by Deputy Anatoly Wasserman to what extent the Health Ministry was paying attention to studies on psychological and, if need be, psychiatric methods of bringing misconceptions about gender back in line with reality.'
Can I ask, how do you reconcile the willingness to deceive you with your friendship? I think I would be really angry to find out that someone who told me they were a woman, with a woman's name and woman's heart, was really a man and that it was a lie. I understand that's how she "feels" but it's not truthful. Anorexics "feel" fat, but we don't tell them they're right and should definitely go on a diet. We tell them they're unhealthily skinny and ruining their wellbeing. We try to get them help. We don't continue to affirm the things they believe that aren't true because it's detrimental to their mental, physical and spiritual health. So how do you square that?
I'm asking this honestly and openly, because I would really like to understand.
Oooh. Great question GG and thank you. I totally understand your point.
There's no deception with this person. She is VERY open about being trans. It's part of her identity. She is trying to deceive no one. She wears who she is on her sleeve -- take it or leave it, which is how I am, so I relate to that.
If anything, she is MORE open with who she is than I am. I have a "professional character" whose role I play very well. My day job requires me to interface with the Borg Itself, and it feels like a little bit of my Soul needs to give itself up in order to play that character to keep money flowing. I *wish* I could just be who I am, but ... My role in life is different in that way.
I would NOT want to be friends with a born biological male who made the claim to be a born biological woman. That, to me, IS deceptive, and such a person would, I imagine, be highly likely to be a pedo creeper BadGuy.
They should opt for the Shakespearean Thee/Thou/Thine/You/Ye. At least it has some historical accuracy behind it and is (technically) grammatically accurate. And people will think they are quirky, rather than insane.
thx Sharon, much love. ❤. Kanye, sorry, Ye takes this approach because he was targeted by a specific group of peeps. He renamed himself to warn others. That is, YE can be interpreted as "Announcement" or "Spoken word". DId you guys see him go ballistic on Alex Jones? was months ago. quick search and you'll see what I mean. Is Illuminati involved?
My! My! Where were all these people long ago before Space Ship Woke blasted off the launch pad? Hum! There must be a crack pipe somewhere in all of this falling all over the place in fits of ecumenical respect!
They were hiding in TabooLand where they belong. As Tucker said. Then we installed a man married to a trans in The White House. And as far as the Man Bites Dog story goes, this is coming out now bc that is the next taboo they want to obliterate. In the end everyone will be a confused pervert ready for Mommy State to own them all.
Just returned from a trip to Vietnam, where the main spiritual foundation is ancestor worship. Before doing anything a person asks themself "what would GrandPa think of me if I did this?". They even have a special kind of portrait of the departed they hang in their houses so the ancestor can take an active part. Grandpa I'm thinking of buying a house, what do you think?
Wikipedia assures me that Vietnam is an "authoritarian socialist" country. I have never seen so much *capitalism* in my life. One woman stopped in a 3 foot space between two buildings and set up a clam noodle shop. NOBODY STOPPED HER. She has been there for 20 years, making a living. I also saw no police or military anywhere, I guess a society with a shared set of traditional cultural values runs pretty much by itself. Be assured that if you do commit a crime punishment is swift and harsh.
In a side street of a side street a tiny grandpa with an army uniform on rushed up to me. He hugged me and showed me the photo of the American war prison he survived, torture, starvation. But his message was *forgiveness*
Thanks for writing. That's all pretty interesting information. And they may be more free in Vietnam, ironies of irony, than we in the US or Australia for that matter. And as I was reading about the noodle shop, I pretty much suspected that people could sell farm produce, meat and vegetables straight to the customer without the Food Police from the Totalitarian State raiding the farm or the market place. I suspect that Vietnam may now have a more viable economy than the US. And God help us when the Funny Money Carousel grinds to a whopping halt.
Sound like you had an enjoyable trip. God bless you.
I will only accept these people after the surgeries. Before that they are born with the equipment they have. I only know of one person who transferred from male to female, and even though he looked very feminine, I can only think of him as HE. There is no changing gender, only sex.
Not sure. I don't get involved in the debates (hence the reason I've found it so difficult to pen a cogent article on the topic).
I will say this ... I've NEVER been a typical female on this planet. So ... I sympathize with those who do not fit in. I believe that the social pressures to be and act a certain way based on gender at birth are still WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY more powerful than ANYBODY, on either side of the aisle (so to speak), would ever dare to admit.
That said, I can also COMPLETELY understand how impossible it would be to think of your acquaintance as a "she" after having known him as a "he" beforehand. As I said, I have only known my friend as a "she," so it seems ridiculous to me to think of her as her former male self. (Also ... I don't ask re: surgery. To me, that's their business. I truly don't even want to know.)
I read an article recently that posited that either Jane Austin, Emily Dickinson or Charlotte Bronte (I can't remember and don't want to google; please forgive me) was really a lesbian, or some such rot, because of the way she wrote about the way her own inner mind worked.
My children would tell you I'm very aggressive and rather masculine. But I am very much a woman. Sometimes I wonder if all this confusion is because we don't give people the space to be people. They must fit into this box that says x, y, z and if they don't it's because they really belong in another box. Maybe each of us is as individual as our fingerprints. Maybe each of us have traits that are more feminine/masculine and less feminine/masculine. But those are our inner beings, not our physical bodies that we present to the world. It doesn't mean our bodies are wrong; it simply means there's no one else like us anywhere else on the planet. That's kind of amazing if you think about it because there are billions of people out there, yet none of them are exactly alike. There was a time when we understood this about each other and embraced it, instead of using it to divide ourselves (or allowing ourselves to be divided.)
As a woman who is highly rational and logical, not maternal, very competitive, but also quite feminine and very much attracted to men only, I don't tick "usual" boxes, either, but I honestly could not care less whether or not "someone gives me the space to be me". Other people do not dictate my space, I do. No one needs to give it to me, the space to be me is inherently mine to occupy or not. If I choose to let someone else define it, then I would be letting them define me and would only exist in relation to them and their expectations.
Dr. Kitt -- are you a vet? OT -- but my dad created the Perineal Urethrostomy surgery to correct urinary blockage in male cats. Always a fun fact to share with other Vets -- I've heard it's still taught in vet school.
Yes, it is still taught -- or was as of the 2010's when I was in school -- and in fact, I strongly debated having the surgery performed on my most beloved tomcat last month.
That's quite an impressive pedigree though -- are you a 2nd generation DVM?
It would bother me a lot less if they just bit the bullet and made up NEW pronouns. Greg Egan wrote a book called "Diaspora" that used pronouns "ze/zis/zim" (as I recall). What's wrong with that, for those who TRULY cannot begin to come to grips with their birth genitalia?
I understand your point but you can’t just invent new parts of speech like that and insert them in the language at will. We already have enough trouble with teaching people how to read and write and about grammar with language evolving organically without making it even harder by introducing these issues.
I agree 1000% and that gets to the REAL heart of the matter:
NOBODY should be FORCED to associate with people who make them feel uncomfortable.
Period.
On *either* side of the aisle.
... And that is why the 'Borg leftists are the enemy this time, and not the fundamentalist Christians. I did recently get into a discussion with a fundamentalist (Bible literalist) and discovered that, in fact, we share a very, VERY different worldview and spiritual track. However ... He only volunteered that information LONG after we were engaged in discussion. He did NOT try to push his views on me. We agreed to disagree, and that left us fine and dandy and well open to being pleasant business partners in future transactions and enjoying casual banter.
... Pretty sure the same could not be said if he had identified himself as a "trans-man" and I had told him that, as a fairly masculine biological woman, I don't believe that such a thing exists. (In reality, I'm open to friendly debate about the topic ... But I don't think that "they" are.)
Doctor Kitt, I see what you did there….nicely done…!
“In reality, I'm open to friendly debate about the topic ... But I don't think that "they" are”
You’re describing WOKE ideology. My biggest pet peeve on planet-earth is hypocrisy. Reality is, the most “hypocritical” humans are indeed the “wokesters.” With that in mind, what is the definition of Woke?
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My friend Scott took a stab at the definition —
Those who impose a viewpoint upon & toward others that:
1. Magnifies (with self righteous overtones) particular concerns focused on the actions of others.
These focal points are singled out as preeminently more important than other concerns of equal validity.
2. The woke person ignores other valid issues/actions they might be guilty of conducting themselves. Even if those activities might be equally harming to to the end goal they claim to support.
As an example-
When Al Gore flies a private jet from a 2nd or 3rd home to a Climate-Change conference to meet w/other Climate Change warriors who also flew private jets to get there, who also have multiple homes.
The ol’- “Do as I say, not as I do” kinda thing…!
Anyone care to take a stab at the definition of WOKE?
Reality is, this whole “pronoun-gender-identification” crap is filled with Hypocrisy (Woke-Ideology).
I know that but it has to fit into the language and also be taken up by the people who use the language (and not just a fringe element). Ms” responded to a linguistic void or need and yet it still took decades for it to be adopted by a majority. Shakespeare also made up words or used linguistic innovations that *didn’t* make it into the lexicon. There have been many attempts to change the language (the French Revolution renaming months comes to mind) that were not a response to a practical need but an attempt to superimpose a political or ideological perspective on a language and because of people’s resistance to change and because they didn’t fit a communication or linguistic need, they didn’t last.
Plus neologisms work much better with things like nouns, adjectives and verbs than with other parts of speech such as prepositions, conjunctions or pronouns. But the new words generally catch on because they fit into the language well in a way that isn’t confusing, and they also meet a need (to name a new technology or concept for example). I’m not sure that these made up and imposed pronouns do that.
Creating new words is pandering (& possibly promoting) this trans phenomena.
Another commenter pointed out using anorexia as a parallel example that as a society or individuals we don’t “play along” with their distorted self-image. And we don’t construct any new words to make their anorexia palatable or more acceptable.
Maybe my analogy is off. But the more we cater to this the more youngsters will latch on. After all Tweens & Teens are followers & easily swayed.
BOOM. Based Florida Man trips up the maroons uwing their own words. Just like the "B" in LGBTQ stands for "bi". Not for dozens, not even several, but BI for the number of actual genders.
We need to take a look at Disney, child sex trafficking, ritual Satanic sexual abuse, and the dark side of Hollywood.
I'm sorry to say these things, but if Jeff's latest doesn't expose what is stalking our world, nothing will. And I've seen and heard too many first person accounts now to dismiss these darkest of allegations. Lara Logan needs a bigger platform and people REALLY need to listen to her, and to those working to expose the underbelly of Hollywood and child sexual abuse in our nation.
On video, at an event, Bill Clinton referred non chalantly, as if it was the most normal thing, that his wife Hillary spoke to dead Eleanor Roosevelt. That is necromancy and probably the most benign thing these two engage in.
A choice to be an attention whore, as most of the Hollywood types seem to be. Picking an odd pronoun moves you up the attention scale in the woke world I guess.
She was always super feminine. She did it for attention and following on social media. I never thought she was anything other than a woman. Super stupid.
Agree with the whim part. The “born that way” lexicon works against the progressive group for their desired changes, I am thinking. Born undeniably either male or female according to their DNA, which cannot be changed. Unless born with XXY or XYY. Those folks are born that way.
Yes exactly, it’s very rare and most of the people who make up the LGBT etc group right now seem to be so more because of it being trendy or searching for an identity than actually born that way.
I am actually quite grateful that carrying around these pronoun identities places responsibility for talking and explaining upon the person who wants the pronouns. Unless they walk around with name tags... For the polite of us, we just use first names and the universally unchallenged I-you pronouns.
Demons use "they, them, we, us" pronouns throughout the bible. Mark 5:9 "Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” Revelations 20:10: "And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
Demi Lovato decided not to be a they/them anymore. Oh, so it's a choice.
That's what we thought.
best of all, its just a SEMANTIC choice. based on nothing, just wind.
Maybe she could. I dunno, reflect upon why, exactly, getting people to use her preferred pronouns was "exhausting." Perhaps because to most it's a pointless exercise aside from stroking her narcissism? 🙄
Exhausting for her??? Dear lord, what about her victims, the poor people looking at a woman and being told they must remember to call her "him," or "he," or, "it" or, "they" or whatever?? What gaslighting and mental abuse abuse! It creates cognitive dissonance and disorientation for the victim of these lies and manipulations!
If I was a parent or teacher in all this insanity "hey you!" would become my method to reach all the delusional individuals in my immediate vicinity- indulging this madness is deadly for OUR mental health, imho.
It's another thing when dealing with the truly mentally ill, of course. Patience and understanding, kindness and love are required.
And perhaps even playing along with a delusion, occasionally. I am not however, a skilled psychologist and will leave those situations to the professionals!
But in my home or classroom?
You better buckle-up because I'm going to behave as if you are a sane individual capable of rational thought, which frankly precludes you from swapping your gender at will, and any attempt to make me believe you can do so will immediately be a cause for psychiatric care. We should not have to deal with this madness.
It's the gender-benders that are abusing the rest of us, that's my take. And it's time it ended.
This is what I dislike most about the current state of affairs: the constant gaslighting. It's abusive and makes people feel like they can't trust their own minds. It creates all this noise that makes it impossible to think clearly. It makes them feel crazy. Then they start acting crazy. It's high time we insist that people tell the truth - cut them off when they lie. We know cancel culture works!
They don’t want us thinking clearly…….. you’re right……..
"hey you!" it's perfect. ty
... An ANNOYING semantic choice.
"They/Them" is a f***ing PLURAL.
Thank you! I don’t care if someone wants to be called they/them, but I won’t do it due to grammatical inaccuracy!
It’s extremely confusing when reading an article about a plural pronoun person and trying to figure out who the other person or people are then realizing the plural is referring to a single person 🙄 Makes zero sense but I guess that goes perfectly with these people since THEY make no sense (and have no sense either!).
It is actually the demons that are being referred to.... Mark 5:9
Bingo, LS Woodruff! The demoniac of Mark 5 had the 'pronoun' legion.
That's the best explanation I have heard. Yes, they are Legion.
A heard a stand up comedian do a skit on this. When you're having a dinner party, just how many people should you cater for when "they" are coming 😄
Lol that’s pretty funny and also a good point 😆 There is a reason for a dedicated and specific plural form! It’s for clarity! Kind of the opposite of all of this woke nonsense.
I've seen the nightly news do it even when they've already acknowledged the (binary) sex of the individual.
One of the many reasons I no longer watch this phony tripe. I gain no actual truthful knowledge by watching mainstream media ‘news’.
I haven't watched the "news" for years. I even hate it when a clip is used in something I'm reading or watching. I mute the sound and ff. First, I can't stand the sight of demons and their minions, and second, but actually co-first, I can't stand lies.
Right, no subject/verb agreement!
Even if they do use the correct plural verb form, I keep trying to figure out who the other person in “they” is!
That is the *least* of the reasons I will not do it.
Bingo. Same.
I wrote a 'blog post about the trans movement on another medium, but it got convoluted and I'm not proud of it, so I won't repost. (May revisit here and rewrite entirely, but ... The original was crappy.) It's a sticky sticky subject, but one that I have an odd degree of familiarity with, so I can't seem to let it go.
HOWEVER, I did make the point there that I do respect why some folks in this society choose to present as the other sex, and that I respect their wishes within my own parameters. (Which are mine.) I have a friend who was born a dude, but whom I met as a presenting trans female, and I cannot at ALL think of this person as "he." It feels not only disrespectful, but wrong, to me. I met her as a her. She's a STRONG female, but female, to me. Her aura is purple.
But ... She is a trans person who wishes to be a "she." Some folks don't ... I think, TBH, that the "they/thems" are mostly asexual. And there's nothing wrong with that. But they aren't plural!
Possibly gay people can be cured, so they can be normal.
I know this sounds offensive in this woke day and age.
Dr. Laura Schlessinger was deep into finding ways to get help for sexual-anormal people.
Yes, gay people can most certainly be cured! My sister who was a lesbian for 25 years or more was cured by the blood of Jesus Christ. She grew up in church so this was not foreign to her. Initially, she was involved with Crossover, a ministry to help gay people, with many hours of counseling. She has given her testimony at churches, prisons, conferences, etc. She has said that many in the homosexual movement are suicidal, feel unloved, and do not want to be that way. She continues to counsel women and has been married (Biblical kind-one man one woman) for almost 9 years.
A big THANK YOU for sharing this shining example of the POWER OF HEALING THROUGH JESUS' SHED BLOOD, Kim!
I just read in RT (an excellent news resource by the way) that 'The Russian President has ordered the creation of a special institute focused on examining homosexuality and gender identity'....
'Amid a lower parliament discussion of a bill that would ban sex change operations in Russia, Murashko was asked by Deputy Anatoly Wasserman to what extent the Health Ministry was paying attention to studies on psychological and, if need be, psychiatric methods of bringing misconceptions about gender back in line with reality.'
BRAVO TO SANITY!
https://www.rt.com/russia/578142-putin-orders-lgbtq-study/
Thanks for the link. RT.com rocks for decent news. And the comments on the threads are usually great.
Can I ask, how do you reconcile the willingness to deceive you with your friendship? I think I would be really angry to find out that someone who told me they were a woman, with a woman's name and woman's heart, was really a man and that it was a lie. I understand that's how she "feels" but it's not truthful. Anorexics "feel" fat, but we don't tell them they're right and should definitely go on a diet. We tell them they're unhealthily skinny and ruining their wellbeing. We try to get them help. We don't continue to affirm the things they believe that aren't true because it's detrimental to their mental, physical and spiritual health. So how do you square that?
I'm asking this honestly and openly, because I would really like to understand.
Oooh. Great question GG and thank you. I totally understand your point.
There's no deception with this person. She is VERY open about being trans. It's part of her identity. She is trying to deceive no one. She wears who she is on her sleeve -- take it or leave it, which is how I am, so I relate to that.
If anything, she is MORE open with who she is than I am. I have a "professional character" whose role I play very well. My day job requires me to interface with the Borg Itself, and it feels like a little bit of my Soul needs to give itself up in order to play that character to keep money flowing. I *wish* I could just be who I am, but ... My role in life is different in that way.
I would NOT want to be friends with a born biological male who made the claim to be a born biological woman. That, to me, IS deceptive, and such a person would, I imagine, be highly likely to be a pedo creeper BadGuy.
They should opt for the Shakespearean Thee/Thou/Thine/You/Ye. At least it has some historical accuracy behind it and is (technically) grammatically accurate. And people will think they are quirky, rather than insane.
I'm moving towards a more Shakespearean dialect myself. ;)
Sorry. Kanye has taken YE.
Interesting booger, that one.
Did you know that YE, in Biblical (I think) terms, means "Sound?" As in, "THE WORD" ... Hmm.
LOL! This is worthy of Atty. Childers' sarcastic wit, Peter!
thx Sharon, much love. ❤. Kanye, sorry, Ye takes this approach because he was targeted by a specific group of peeps. He renamed himself to warn others. That is, YE can be interpreted as "Announcement" or "Spoken word". DId you guys see him go ballistic on Alex Jones? was months ago. quick search and you'll see what I mean. Is Illuminati involved?
I have no idea, Peter - I don't follow either of those dudes!!
I thought he meant YE as in "go YE into all the world..."
My! My! Where were all these people long ago before Space Ship Woke blasted off the launch pad? Hum! There must be a crack pipe somewhere in all of this falling all over the place in fits of ecumenical respect!
Failing to have an identity.
The SS Woke gave them a handy-dandy ready-made fake one.
They were hiding in TabooLand where they belong. As Tucker said. Then we installed a man married to a trans in The White House. And as far as the Man Bites Dog story goes, this is coming out now bc that is the next taboo they want to obliterate. In the end everyone will be a confused pervert ready for Mommy State to own them all.
Just returned from a trip to Vietnam, where the main spiritual foundation is ancestor worship. Before doing anything a person asks themself "what would GrandPa think of me if I did this?". They even have a special kind of portrait of the departed they hang in their houses so the ancestor can take an active part. Grandpa I'm thinking of buying a house, what do you think?
Wikipedia assures me that Vietnam is an "authoritarian socialist" country. I have never seen so much *capitalism* in my life. One woman stopped in a 3 foot space between two buildings and set up a clam noodle shop. NOBODY STOPPED HER. She has been there for 20 years, making a living. I also saw no police or military anywhere, I guess a society with a shared set of traditional cultural values runs pretty much by itself. Be assured that if you do commit a crime punishment is swift and harsh.
In a side street of a side street a tiny grandpa with an army uniform on rushed up to me. He hugged me and showed me the photo of the American war prison he survived, torture, starvation. But his message was *forgiveness*
Thanks for writing. That's all pretty interesting information. And they may be more free in Vietnam, ironies of irony, than we in the US or Australia for that matter. And as I was reading about the noodle shop, I pretty much suspected that people could sell farm produce, meat and vegetables straight to the customer without the Food Police from the Totalitarian State raiding the farm or the market place. I suspect that Vietnam may now have a more viable economy than the US. And God help us when the Funny Money Carousel grinds to a whopping halt.
Sound like you had an enjoyable trip. God bless you.
I will only accept these people after the surgeries. Before that they are born with the equipment they have. I only know of one person who transferred from male to female, and even though he looked very feminine, I can only think of him as HE. There is no changing gender, only sex.
Not sure. I don't get involved in the debates (hence the reason I've found it so difficult to pen a cogent article on the topic).
I will say this ... I've NEVER been a typical female on this planet. So ... I sympathize with those who do not fit in. I believe that the social pressures to be and act a certain way based on gender at birth are still WAAAAAAYYYYYYYY more powerful than ANYBODY, on either side of the aisle (so to speak), would ever dare to admit.
That said, I can also COMPLETELY understand how impossible it would be to think of your acquaintance as a "she" after having known him as a "he" beforehand. As I said, I have only known my friend as a "she," so it seems ridiculous to me to think of her as her former male self. (Also ... I don't ask re: surgery. To me, that's their business. I truly don't even want to know.)
I read an article recently that posited that either Jane Austin, Emily Dickinson or Charlotte Bronte (I can't remember and don't want to google; please forgive me) was really a lesbian, or some such rot, because of the way she wrote about the way her own inner mind worked.
My children would tell you I'm very aggressive and rather masculine. But I am very much a woman. Sometimes I wonder if all this confusion is because we don't give people the space to be people. They must fit into this box that says x, y, z and if they don't it's because they really belong in another box. Maybe each of us is as individual as our fingerprints. Maybe each of us have traits that are more feminine/masculine and less feminine/masculine. But those are our inner beings, not our physical bodies that we present to the world. It doesn't mean our bodies are wrong; it simply means there's no one else like us anywhere else on the planet. That's kind of amazing if you think about it because there are billions of people out there, yet none of them are exactly alike. There was a time when we understood this about each other and embraced it, instead of using it to divide ourselves (or allowing ourselves to be divided.)
As a woman who is highly rational and logical, not maternal, very competitive, but also quite feminine and very much attracted to men only, I don't tick "usual" boxes, either, but I honestly could not care less whether or not "someone gives me the space to be me". Other people do not dictate my space, I do. No one needs to give it to me, the space to be me is inherently mine to occupy or not. If I choose to let someone else define it, then I would be letting them define me and would only exist in relation to them and their expectations.
1000% GG -- you summed it up beautifully!
Dr. Kitt -- are you a vet? OT -- but my dad created the Perineal Urethrostomy surgery to correct urinary blockage in male cats. Always a fun fact to share with other Vets -- I've heard it's still taught in vet school.
Yes I am, and WOW!
Yes, it is still taught -- or was as of the 2010's when I was in school -- and in fact, I strongly debated having the surgery performed on my most beloved tomcat last month.
That's quite an impressive pedigree though -- are you a 2nd generation DVM?
A fun connection! Actually I am not a vet. But the one way I and my siblings followed our dad is that we are all self employed :)
NICE! That's the way to be for sure :)
Her "aura"? Enough said (written). I take note of your moniker. Is it short for kitten?
No.
They’re just pandering idiots 🙄
Yes. All of our institutions are sold out.
We really have to rebuild a new society.
Don’t care. Changing language on the whims of the woke matter not to me:
😂 😂 An “Eff-ing-plural” Amen Doctor Kitt, Amen…!
problem is in the singular you must specify gender. Unless you go with IT
I think of most people as being an "it." Does that count?
The qualifier 'semantic' presupposes at least a whiff of meaning or logic 😜 Unless words mean whatever Humpty Dumpty says they mean 🤭
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'
Lewis Carroll
It would bother me a lot less if they just bit the bullet and made up NEW pronouns. Greg Egan wrote a book called "Diaspora" that used pronouns "ze/zis/zim" (as I recall). What's wrong with that, for those who TRULY cannot begin to come to grips with their birth genitalia?
I understand your point but you can’t just invent new parts of speech like that and insert them in the language at will. We already have enough trouble with teaching people how to read and write and about grammar with language evolving organically without making it even harder by introducing these issues.
I agree 1000% and that gets to the REAL heart of the matter:
NOBODY should be FORCED to associate with people who make them feel uncomfortable.
Period.
On *either* side of the aisle.
... And that is why the 'Borg leftists are the enemy this time, and not the fundamentalist Christians. I did recently get into a discussion with a fundamentalist (Bible literalist) and discovered that, in fact, we share a very, VERY different worldview and spiritual track. However ... He only volunteered that information LONG after we were engaged in discussion. He did NOT try to push his views on me. We agreed to disagree, and that left us fine and dandy and well open to being pleasant business partners in future transactions and enjoying casual banter.
... Pretty sure the same could not be said if he had identified himself as a "trans-man" and I had told him that, as a fairly masculine biological woman, I don't believe that such a thing exists. (In reality, I'm open to friendly debate about the topic ... But I don't think that "they" are.)
Doctor Kitt, I see what you did there….nicely done…!
“In reality, I'm open to friendly debate about the topic ... But I don't think that "they" are”
You’re describing WOKE ideology. My biggest pet peeve on planet-earth is hypocrisy. Reality is, the most “hypocritical” humans are indeed the “wokesters.” With that in mind, what is the definition of Woke?
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My friend Scott took a stab at the definition —
Those who impose a viewpoint upon & toward others that:
1. Magnifies (with self righteous overtones) particular concerns focused on the actions of others.
These focal points are singled out as preeminently more important than other concerns of equal validity.
2. The woke person ignores other valid issues/actions they might be guilty of conducting themselves. Even if those activities might be equally harming to to the end goal they claim to support.
As an example-
When Al Gore flies a private jet from a 2nd or 3rd home to a Climate-Change conference to meet w/other Climate Change warriors who also flew private jets to get there, who also have multiple homes.
The ol’- “Do as I say, not as I do” kinda thing…!
Anyone care to take a stab at the definition of WOKE?
Reality is, this whole “pronoun-gender-identification” crap is filled with Hypocrisy (Woke-Ideology).
Willfully Oblivious to Known Evil.
You can. That’s how we got “Ms.” And Shakespeare is well known for turning nouns into verbs
I know that but it has to fit into the language and also be taken up by the people who use the language (and not just a fringe element). Ms” responded to a linguistic void or need and yet it still took decades for it to be adopted by a majority. Shakespeare also made up words or used linguistic innovations that *didn’t* make it into the lexicon. There have been many attempts to change the language (the French Revolution renaming months comes to mind) that were not a response to a practical need but an attempt to superimpose a political or ideological perspective on a language and because of people’s resistance to change and because they didn’t fit a communication or linguistic need, they didn’t last.
Plus neologisms work much better with things like nouns, adjectives and verbs than with other parts of speech such as prepositions, conjunctions or pronouns. But the new words generally catch on because they fit into the language well in a way that isn’t confusing, and they also meet a need (to name a new technology or concept for example). I’m not sure that these made up and imposed pronouns do that.
Creating new words is pandering (& possibly promoting) this trans phenomena.
Another commenter pointed out using anorexia as a parallel example that as a society or individuals we don’t “play along” with their distorted self-image. And we don’t construct any new words to make their anorexia palatable or more acceptable.
Maybe my analogy is off. But the more we cater to this the more youngsters will latch on. After all Tweens & Teens are followers & easily swayed.
I actually think she referred to the difficulty in staying in character.
It's called gender fluid for a reason. Lol.😉
All sound and fury.
“A tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury, signifying nothing” indeed!!
BOOM. Based Florida Man trips up the maroons uwing their own words. Just like the "B" in LGBTQ stands for "bi". Not for dozens, not even several, but BI for the number of actual genders.
What is wrong with " Lets Get Biden To Quit "
Power lust it is...https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/steam-friday-june-16-2023-c-and-c/comment/17386918
If the p-resident resigns/dies, then OHarris is the p-resident and OHarris gets to appoint a new VP.
Skips the elections completely - Appoints buddy Newsom. US plunged into diktatorship.
You don’t want OH.
The only thing she has on Biden is that she reads floor markers and teleprompters better. And takes orders from BO better.
The dems got it right first: they had Agnew QUIT before they went after Nixon. Lets get the Kamel(a) out of the way first then go after the Bide(t)
oh my goodness 47, what a great observation. Never even thought of that.
Isn’t she a Disney kid? That’s all we really need to know about her mental stability. 😢
We need to take a look at Disney, child sex trafficking, ritual Satanic sexual abuse, and the dark side of Hollywood.
I'm sorry to say these things, but if Jeff's latest doesn't expose what is stalking our world, nothing will. And I've seen and heard too many first person accounts now to dismiss these darkest of allegations. Lara Logan needs a bigger platform and people REALLY need to listen to her, and to those working to expose the underbelly of Hollywood and child sexual abuse in our nation.
On video, at an event, Bill Clinton referred non chalantly, as if it was the most normal thing, that his wife Hillary spoke to dead Eleanor Roosevelt. That is necromancy and probably the most benign thing these two engage in.
Yes, she had significant issues with an eating issue and self esteem. Surprised anyone?
And addiction
pity she was a decent singer. If only she would SHUT UP AND SING!
You guys know what they say about MM, right? (/cringe emoji)
It gets hard to explain to the sane your insane choices when you are trying to get into a relationship with the sane.
If I were a man I wouldn't touch that ball of kookoo for cocoa puffs with a ten foot pole.
Just oozes ‘insanity and unstable’’… aka, bat chit crazy!!
He’ll probably just use her and throw her away which will only make her issues worse 😕
A choice to be an attention whore, as most of the Hollywood types seem to be. Picking an odd pronoun moves you up the attention scale in the woke world I guess.
Bingo! Always trying to be relevant and talked about.
She was always super feminine. She did it for attention and following on social media. I never thought she was anything other than a woman. Super stupid.
Demi was just doing a Demo and found that there was no lost Luvo.
Right?? They keep trying to say people are born that way but then they reveal that it’s mostly just decided on a whim 🙄
Agree with the whim part. The “born that way” lexicon works against the progressive group for their desired changes, I am thinking. Born undeniably either male or female according to their DNA, which cannot be changed. Unless born with XXY or XYY. Those folks are born that way.
Yes exactly, it’s very rare and most of the people who make up the LGBT etc group right now seem to be so more because of it being trendy or searching for an identity than actually born that way.
Well said. Amen
I wonder what pronouns the deputy mayor of Stockholm uses? https://twitter.com/bjornsoder/status/1669592227658465280/photo/1
Ugh 😑
I am actually quite grateful that carrying around these pronoun identities places responsibility for talking and explaining upon the person who wants the pronouns. Unless they walk around with name tags... For the polite of us, we just use first names and the universally unchallenged I-you pronouns.
Well, that's what they said.
Exactly!
Isn't there a country western song--Take Your pronouns and Shove It; I ain't saying this shit no more.
Demons use "they, them, we, us" pronouns throughout the bible. Mark 5:9 "Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” Revelations 20:10: "And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
BRILLIANT COMMENT