Thank goodness there are still real men out there. The awesome thing is that he is only 24 which gives me more hope that not all is lost on the younger generations.
Thank goodness there are still real men out there. The awesome thing is that he is only 24 which gives me more hope that not all is lost on the younger generations.
They know not what they do. At this point, it’s the only thing that explains it. Why else would this anarchy be allowed? Can they not see themselves or their children in the place of those he was trying to protect?
A certain minority group cannot bring themselves to vote differently. The idea that the republican party is for and about rich white persons has been firmly ingrained. There are other reasons they vote that way too.
However NYC is made up of 5 boroughs of ethnic and religious diversity, so I dont get it. Anyway, this Mayor was formerly NYPD..he isnt the reason, the Soros appointed DA is.
It's painfully obvious that whatever the Democrats say they are "for", it's just the opposite. They're not only NOT for the "little guy", they are actively trying to crush him out of existence. Too bad the average Democrat voter can't see this.
Exactly. Watch what they DO and not what they say. All of the people who vote Democrat seem to just listen to what they say and not observe their actions.
The Dems used to accuse the "rich Republicans" of doing the exact things the Democrats are doing right now. Now it's the rich Democrats who are the major spenders and war mongers. Unfortunately, many Republicans are participating in the same activities, though. Uniparty in some cases.
Yes for many of them it goes way back sociologically for why they do it. I remember this being discussed in a PBS series on the history of different ethnic groups in America. Many people cannot break from the past and see that todays oppressed are not the deviants, but the rest of us!
Orthodox Jews have always leaned conservative. It's the rest of the Jewish community that can't seem to stop voting as a bloc against their own interests.
Ditto for the Greeks!!! Some have a mind of their own and weigh the issues and vote with their brain. The majority though having gorged on the leftist coolaid still votes with Democrats. Go figure
According to a special on PBS, they vote that way because this is the party which traditionally stood up for the underdog and oppressed, of which they related to. Also that is why they tend to tolerate or embrace liberal ideas and causes. However, it is odd, as the idea of liberal causes has taken a culturally, anti family and God sick turn, and liberal Jews tend to still still be family oriented.
Angela, your first statement is essentially wrong and clueless on a few counts. If I were a member of “a certain minority group” and, like a great many in “certain minority groups”, do vote differently than your assumptions of me, I might take issue with these.
Please dont go all touchy and PC on me. 🙄That is what is wrong with this country today! I am part of an ethnic group and I am a New Yorker through and through, with a handle on the mosaic of my 'homeland' , having grown up and schooled and worked with every group of the great mosaic! Also as the geandaughter of immigrants I don’t get touchy when I hear generalizations about the sociological factors behind my etnic group or any other group. I find sociology intellectually fascinating. PBS did an entire series on each group and the historic whys of how they tend to vote became so much clearer.
Angela, thanks for the correction from your perspective. I'm not in NY and I believe your experience. What I’m seeing where I sit though, is that there’s a huge awakening amongst many minorities.
But my response was not touchy nor PC, in the least; it was based on what I see. I do resist the constant psycho-social push to get us to think in terms of groups and alignments and to see others as individuals; not categorizing people nor belittling them. This is what the manipulators do — and they’ve largely succeeded. We won’t disable that trap until we free ourselves from it, too. That takes grace and effort. Ragging about “them” — the brainwashed — may vent frustration, ally us with other like thinking folks and feel good, but it accomplishes nothing of value, sets our own blinders more firmly in place, and puts us handily in the same trap we’re decrying. Sociology, btw, is the most untrustworthy, inexact, manipulative quasi- science limited hangout on the planet, next to psychology (and modern medicine) — PBS is right up there, too. Not a great rock to build your world view on.
Here's the thing..growing up in NYC we were groups! Catholics, Jews, Irish, Greeks, hispanics, blacks, Italian, Lebanese, etc. Our neighborhoods were built on groups. Yet, we all got along outside of the groups, and got to understand each others group and mentality and culture. Cultural and religious backgrounds are what largely determine peoples views on many things including politics...though I believe in todays American culture wars this may all be getting a bit more fuzzy.
You are right. Many minority individuals are stepping away from the generalizations of yesterday, because todays politics are totally different in so many way
😉 Peace. ✌️
PS: I don't go on about the 'brainwashed'. I try to understand where many people are coming from. I also try not to condemn or criticize. I think we agree ! 👍
Thanks! & Peace to you as well, Angela. God Bless.
PS. My mother was an immigrant, too (Norsk farmer/fisher people who settled in SE Alaska) But I love the thought of you growing up with such vibrant, rich & varied heritages and families all around you. Here in the Northwest, it’s mostly admiring imitation & approximation. We do have a smattering of authentic old world migrants here — mainly in the way of truly ethnic family restaurants, Chinatown, fourth-generation Norwegian fishermen in Seattle, Catholic & Orthodox parishes & some & pockets here & there, & fantastic mexican & asian places. But, nothing is like the rich (true) diversity you’ve experienced. Makes me smile thinking about it & I hope you keep fighting to protect your beloved city. MNYGA!
I had made a comment the other day about having Covid a year ago and was attacked by someone who asked me why I thought I had Covid when it didn't exist. I was a zombie and "brainwashed" into believing what they are telling me to believe. I commented that I wasn't going to get into a back and forth whether it's Covid, bioweapon, whatever. I was sick. I told him to take his crap elsewhere. Came back at me full force and accused me of getting angry and I should have worded my Covid explanation differently. Anyway, long story but I deleted the whole thread as he would not stop. My point is my comment meant no harm and wasn't directed at anyone but this person took it upon himself to attack. This thread has been civil but I'm getting to the point of not commenting anymore as there are too many people who love to try to get people to react. That's what I told him and then shut him down. I'm not sure why he took it so personally but it seems it's happening more and more..
Yes...I think I, for one, way over-reacted. For some reason, many of the the comments this morning seemed just randomly grumpy and kind of thoughtless. (Amidst the joyfully generous ones!). I think when I got to about this point in the comms, I was ready to spring. In re-reading the posts above, I realized that I had taken them in the worst possible way — I’m grateful for Angela’s grace in engaging and wow, what an interesting person. From now on, I’ll stick to the kind of encouragement that I’ve come to like so much here and ehjoy writing — we need to stay positive & lift each other up. I had been affected by that negativity & then stupidly wrote. It’s contagious! But, so is encouragement. And we need that in spades right now.
Keep in the conversation, Tracy! You never know how your voice will touch someone.
God, Bless us all and strengthen us in grace, hope and a good sense of humor. (Mine has been lagging lately & a good bit of humor is balm ;))
Can you relate how things are these days in NY? My heart continually turns to the people in NY especially, when I think of the dire predictions re food shortages & supply chains failing. And we constantly hear about crime & city/state mal-management. Where I am, we can be pretty self-sustaining — lots of space & rural farmland. Fairly mild winters, too...
What’s really happening & do you & your community have a plan? Especially re food?
Don't confuse criminality with anarchy. Anarchy simply means "absence of government" not "rioting in the streets". As such, it's actually very close to the philosophy behind the 10th Amendment.
However, anarchy has become synonymous with criminality and rioting in the streets because government is the only entity to enforce law and order (in a perfect world). It’s way past time for states to step up and do what our UNconstitutional government refuses to do. The situation at our southern border is a prime example of that. I voted for Abbott, but he is weak on this issue. Texas is powerful enough to have stopped this mess or at least curtailed it to a large degree, if the will to do so had existed.
The 10th Amendment is well and good, IF any state would invoke it. Do you see that happening?
No anarchy. Chaos, yes, but no anarchy. The country and its states, cities, and towns have plenty of 𝒓𝒖𝒍𝒆𝒓𝒔. They just happen to be in large part the scum of the earth, which is generally -- with rare, rare exception -- what power attracts.
They have no children and they despise their parents. The older i get the more righteous i see Gods sWord in commanding that we stone defiant 'of age' children and have social gender norms and death penalty and timely trials.
The real problem in NYC is APATHY. Not enough people are voting AT ALL. The uniparty is a given, opposition is considered futile. I don’t have the specific numbers (look it up), but in a city of 8M people, DeBlasio, who literally destroyed the city during his tenure, was elected *and* re-elected with something like @ 700,000 votes. It’s disgusting. I grew up in Queens but live in the northern suburbs now.
What most people fail to realize is that the change that impacts individuals the most is fought for and executed at the LOCAL level, not in DC.
A story: Vickie Paladino (R) is a fearless NYC council woman representing my old hometown in comparatively upscale northern Queens, fighting every woke policy you can think of - despite being in the council minority. She also refused to share her vax status during mandates. I know her personally (she’s my best friend’s older sister) and contributed to her campaign. She’s been called a female Trump. Seriously, no filter. 😂 She says a number of the Dems on the council agree with her stances and applaud her outspokenness privately, but they still tow the party line on council votes. The hypocrisy is despicable.
Here’s an example of the apathy I claim and why NYC will continue to decline. One of my friends still lives in the district and I have introduced her to Vickie. When Vickie won her hard-fought election, my friend was happy about it, but genuinely asked me how I thought it would benefit her personally. I asked, “did you vote for her?” She sheepishly said she didn’t vote at all. When I told her that local elections were important and where change actually happens, she asked if I voted (which of course I did). I obviously hit a nerve because she took it as a criticism and literally jumped down my throat.
Long rambling story (sorry), but what’s the bottom line? The moral of the story?
You may get what you vote for, but you also get what you DON’T vote for. Especially locally.
"How"? Maybe you should ask, "WHY". And direct that question, first, to Mister Patriot, Sean Hannity, who bemoans the "fact" that he just cannot bring himself to move out of the NYC metro. Tucker broadcast from Maine ... Rush broadcast from Florida ... Breitbart News streams from wherever the on-air anchor is at the moment. Heck, I can build a "studio" in my office for the cost of a decent mic and some acoustic baffle panels. But Li'l Sean? Naaahhhh.
When you have the kind of money he does, it can be Paradise. He is a New Yorker in his soul ( not to mention his worst of the worse voice and accent).
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. I lived in a northern suburb of the city for 30 years until 10 years ago.
New York, especially from back in the day never leaves your soul. You meet another New Yorker from your era and you understand and connect to each other despite different ethnic or religious background, despite different educational level. Nothing can describe it, so I don't expect others to understand.
I think if I had Hannitys money, I would still be there, atleast for half the year.
Maybe you can explain to me why the Orthodox Jews in NY who seem to have many conservative values always vote for the democrats. They are so numerous they could swing many an election but it never happens. And even when they are victimized by the criminals!
Trust me, I see the writing on the wall and I’d already be out of NY state, but my 93 yr old mom won’t budge - not even to escape the winters. She’s my #1 priority, so here I stay. I understand not wanting to move at that age.
They have zero understanding of cause and effect. According to them, the policies are completely unrelated to the issues coming up 🙄 I actually heard a leftist say this and I was speechless.
I multiplied for his defense. Hopefully a great showing of 1000s of donor raising a ton of money will uplift him and send a message. I am proud of what he did. 👍😍
They seem to have changed the system (I didn’t have trouble before), and my donation ultimately did not end in a 2 because I thought the $2 I added for GSG would count in the total. I messaged Support and here’s the story:
“You can opt out of the optional donation to GiveSendGo by selecting other and then inputting a 0 amount. This way your donation to the campaign can end in a 2 like you prefer. We appreciate your generous donations.” I like supporting GSG, and this is how to work the numbers.
Nearing $900k this morning! I too did an amount ending in “2”, but agreed to an additional $4 to cover their costs, which may skew the C & C totals? Not too pressing though, helping Daniel & all masculine, prone to protect heros, is my only goal.
I think the site was overloaded this morning. Not sure if my donation went thru so will ck later. The C&C army was storming the gates over at give-send-GO!!
Me too! As retirees living on a fixed income, I consider well about where our money goes. Politicians?…maybe…maybe not. But for a regular guy like this who was brave enough to DO the right thing - I didn’t give it a second thought.
I am wary of funds set up by friends. Prefer legal defense to go to lawyers. Jeff takes donations to help his covid freedom fight, and Bill Shipley has a fund to finance his many dozens of J6 defenses.
Not trying to be a contrarian here, but Cernovich makes a good point, these people voted for this, why should good men risk everything to defend them?
Bragg was elected by an overwhelming majority, Manhattan is 90% democrat. So either these people want this, or they are too stupid/uniformed to know that locking up criminals to protect people is good for society. They want this.
Yet good men are supposed to step up and protect these people? Good men are supposed to risk everything to be jailed by a left-wing nutcase prosecutor and jury? Those good men will be separated from their family, unable to provide for their kids, unable to see them grow up, and have their life ruined, for protecting people who want and voted for the mayhem.
Young urban women overwhelming vote democrat and propel these leftist thugs into office, yet good patriotic men are supposed to step in and protect them when the inevitable happens? No way, chivalry is a two-way street. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
Cernovich is exactly right IMO. Good men should save their heroics for people who actually appreciate honor, valor, and courage, and don't put communists that free criminals in office.
I would agree except…when good men and women are minding their own business and thugs like that one start harming people….good men and women instinctively protect. It’s in their nature. How do we live with ourselves if we turn away and let them be hurt when it was in our power to help them? That’s the difference between cowards and good men and women. We can’t turn a blind eye to thugs and criminals. 🤷♀️ even if we want to.
I don't like it either, but people have to learn from their actions. There's a real cost to be paid for mindlessly electing a communist just because he has a D by his name. Bragg made no secret about his intentions.
Personally, I avoid these situations by keeping myself and my family out of bad areas and situations. You could not pay me to ride a New York subway. It may sound cowardly but it keeps us from being victimized or being put in the position of having to confront one of these psychos. These people not only put themselves in the situation but vote for more if it. Particularly women, it's like they have a death wish.
I get it. And I do agree with some of what you say.
I also avoid places that are unsafe as well. I would not knowingly go to places that are bad areas or bad situations. That is not cowardly. That is being wise!
And you are also right that a lot of people voted for this therefore should live with the consequences. Those consequences would be brave mend and women not even being there to help in the first place. However, if good men and women happen to be there, I’m glad they would do the right thing and step up.
I'm not a 'good man' by anyone's standards, but I don't intend to allow intolerable behavior in my presence. Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. (not my quote)
Suggested reading for all here, especially women, families with small kids, and folks who are perceived as being wealthy: "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker.
Just finished that book. I put off reading it because, as a Christian, I believe God did not give us a spirit of fear. He did, however, give us intuition/gut instinct/whatever you want to label it. The book speaks to that gift.
Exactly, that's why I think the title is a bit off even though I've heard great things about the book (have not read it yet). Trust your instincts, God gave us them for a reason. Don't let modern society guilt you into ignoring them.
It's a slippery slope when good people stop doing the right thing, for whatever reason. Like I tell my kids, you're responsible for what you do. Not for what anyone else does. I hope men never stop being gallant simply because feminists don't want it. And I hope good men and women don't stop standing up to bullies simply because the populace doesn't deserve it. Because then no one is doing the right thing.
I would argue the "right thing" is to take your family out of a lawless place and to protect them by using common sense. I have no obligation to threaten my own family's well-being by defending a woman who voted for lawlessness all because the guy with a "D" by his name supports and promotes abortion (and that's what it comes down to for many, if not most, young women).
Chivalry was a system designed to protect women as the weaker sex. The system worked in that certain behavior was expected of both sides. Women are not entitled to unconditional bravery from men just because of their chromosomes. If women want to do stupid things like vote for communists and ride unprotected in a lawless subway then they really should not expect men to step up and defend them.
We do what we do because of who we are, not because of who others are. I didn't refuse to wear a mask just to wake up people who wanted to stay asleep. I refused because of who I am before God. I didnt say anything about putting your family in danger because of chivalry (thats a stretch), but I can tell you my family experienced persecution. If men would understand their role before God, and fulfill it, this world would be a different place. This man on the subway did what his conscience knew was right, and in this evil culture, he will suffer for it. But the evil culture is not his problem. God and his conscience tell him who he is, not them. And it's God they'll both answer to.
In my neighborhood full of lefties and covidiots, I will not help them with anything. And trust me when I say they will not help you. Look what they do to themselves and their families. They're so screwed up who would want anything they had to offer. The only good thing about them is my kids have clear examples of who not to get involved with etc.
I agree and have found that leftists are the least likely to help their neighbors. However, let’s not assume that folks voted for this in all cases, as many elections are rigged.
Statistics collected over decades prove you are correct about leftists and charity. Conservatives and people of faith give more. "Progressives" apparently believe that charity begins in the government treasury, not in the individual heart.
So true. I once lived next to a very liberal couple, who were all “into” pet rescue. A stray cat showed up right when we were selling our house, but of course they couldn’t be bothered to help when I couldn’t bring it in. Another (conservative) neighbor stepped up and she ended up keeping the cat.
The argument is correct because people deserve the consequences of their actions. But the larger take-away is that New York is a failed state and really no different from Monrovia or any other failed state cesspool.
There are only two choices in life. Either stand up for truth and an authentic administration of justice based upon God's Law ... or roll over. Things have gotten extreme. The result being that choices are sometimes hard and difficult.
How does making right choices work in daily life? Well, I will defend my wife, if need be, with my life. My wife knows this. And the result is that the quality of life in the house is upgraded from what it could be, a thing of no consequence. That is, if a person knows that he or she can depend on someone to perform, then life is made good and the home secure.
The necessity to choose between Good and Evil regardless of the personal consequence in today's Woke climes should be a self-evident truth.
There's a third choice in don't put yourself in a situation where you are compelled to defend the stupid or reckless.
Remember that scene in Die Hard 3 where the bad guy tells John McClain to go into a black neighborhood wearing a giant "I hate (N-word)" placard as part for the ransom? Extreme example, but if someone is doing that and you drive by and see him getting the tar beaten out of him, would you help? Or would you think that guy was an idiot and frankly got what he had coming?
Things are not always black and white. The problem here is that people have made foolish choices to elect morons that free criminals, choose to live in an unsafe neighborhood, and then ride the subway which is notorious for being a rolling mental institution. They don't have to do any of these things but choose to. Then when as predictably as the sun rising things go wrong, people are supposed to step up and defend them knowing they will go to jail for it? No.
Of course I would defend my family to the death if it came down to it. However, it never has come down to that because I make smart choices to keep them and myself out of situations where it's required. If that makes me a coward then I'm proudly a coward.
The alleged third choice is not really a third choice. It is another choice separate from the first binary consideration of having choose between Good and Evil.
Instead, the alleged third choice is prudence. Within the context of Good and Evil, prudence is the exercise of wisdom.
Wow, not sure if that was aimed at me but speak for yourself. How many violent thugs have you stopped defending this virtue you speak of?
People sure are big talkers demanding others take risks they have never done themselves. Go for it Lynn, maybe you can be the next Bernard Goetz.
And how is it the right thing to be thrown in jail, unable to provide for one's kids, unable to be there for them growing up? All to defend someone who voted for the mayhem and knowingly put themselves in a dangerous situation?
JeffC...It's possible you're being misunderstood by some folks. I think your main point is that you avoid potentially unsafe situations as a way of protecting your family, etc. and I agree with you. Avoidance is the #1 preferred answer to danger, and that is not cowardice but prudence, as another commenter phrased it.
True Ted, I think people should behave prudently by evaluating the consequences before they act. Like you state that includes avoiding potentially dangerous situations. But it goes beyond that.
I'm saying (actually Cernovich said it but I agree with him) they should not risk their lives, livelihood, and freedom by defending people who vote for and sanction anarchy. These people that some are demanding others defend, will be all too happy to vote 12-0 to convict them when Bragg or some other Soros prosecutor charges them with assault or manslaughter.
NYC has made it's choice to elect a communist who ran on the platform of letting criminals run free. That's what he said he'd do and they voted for him overwhelmingly. They are brainwashed dolts who think civilization is the normal order of humanity as opposed to a carefully constructed system of rules, enforcement, and common trust. They threw that out the window in a fit of self-righteousness as it made them feel good about themselves (Black Lives Matter!) and now they are paying the price. Now normal decent people are supposed to step up and defend them? Why?
And to those saying it's the Christian thing to do, I get it. But where does the Bible say we are compelled to defend people that intentionally bring harm upon themselves (and risk our own family's well being in the process)? Perhaps it's in there but I have not seen it. I quote Bible verses on here all the time and would *welcome* some scripture that clarifies this subject.
Anyways, I avoid it entirely by *never* putting my family in a location where mental patients roam free. We don't go shopping or to restaurants in bad neighborhoods ever, why would people do that? And if we are at some event and I get a sense that things are starting to get uncomfortable we leave. Period. My family always comes first.
As long as you are following Christ, no one (including myself) has any valid reason to criticize you. You are the leader of your family, ordained by God Himself.
For me, I ignore all that fake Christian crap about following government orders, etc. None of that means anything when the government itself is fully devoted to Satan. I take my orders from God, so I don’t give any thought to what anyone else says or believes. Psalm 118:8 is considered to be the ‘center’ of God’s Word. I put my full trust in God and every man can go pound sand. “I seek peace, but I am ready and willing to do horrible things to evil people in order to protect my family, or anyone I choose.” ~ me
My comment wasn't intended to be pejorative towards you or anyone else here, and i apologize if it seemed that way or in any way self-righteous. IMHO, the time is coming when we will no longer have many choices remaining, and we might consider what we are prepared to do to "keep what's mine." Further, painting everyone in a city, town or even a neighborhood with the same brush is unreasonable. Do we question a person about their political positions before we help them, or do we help because we believe we should? For those who are religious - and I am not - one might ask what Jesus would do.
Agreed, but dont forget that NYC is huge and Manhattan is only a small part of it. My entire family resides there; our roots from Ellus island started there. We are all republicans.
I do know some immigrant people who vote democratic for silly reasons like they think the dems are better for their ethnic homelands in foreign policy. 🙄
Very true in that NYC is huge, but aside from Staten Island most of NYC is very liberal and votes overwhelmingly democrat.
As an example, in 2020, Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens combined, Trump only got 20% of the vote, Manhattan by itself was 12%. In Staten Island on the other hand, Trump got 57%.
Yes the boroughs were always considered working class, and historically speaking they would vote blue. I understand why and it wasn't necessarily a bad thing..all that changed a few decades ago with the beginning of the culture war.
My extended family are educated business people and despite being New Yorkers, they always voted republican.
Staten Island is largely comprised of Italian Americans who left Brooklyn for larger homes. This ethnic group is family oriented, and to a large extent these days, business owners. It makes sense that they voted for Trump.
I had to try the GiveSendGo link several times before it finally responded. I hope that means there’s a flood of support coming in for this brave young man! I saw lots of 2’s in the recent gift list.
There's a bunch of them out there. They are keeping there heads down doing what young successful men are supposed to be doing. That's why we don't notice them, we should. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth".
But, there is an inordinate amount of attention sacrificed on the technically savvy overly vocal minority that jump up and down shouting, "look at me, look at me" as they virtue signal through there cell phones, etc. .... ad nauseam.
Thank goodness there are still real men out there. The awesome thing is that he is only 24 which gives me more hope that not all is lost on the younger generations.
And the trouble and unfathomable legal stress he will go through now is deliberate in order to discourage other men from being real men...and it will.
NY city residents - 🤪 large percentage voted for this crap.
They know not what they do. At this point, it’s the only thing that explains it. Why else would this anarchy be allowed? Can they not see themselves or their children in the place of those he was trying to protect?
A certain minority group cannot bring themselves to vote differently. The idea that the republican party is for and about rich white persons has been firmly ingrained. There are other reasons they vote that way too.
However NYC is made up of 5 boroughs of ethnic and religious diversity, so I dont get it. Anyway, this Mayor was formerly NYPD..he isnt the reason, the Soros appointed DA is.
What’s hilarious to me is that a huge number of well off and rich white people seem to vote democrat not republican.
It was hilarious, but the rich have been teamed up with the Dems for years.
Yeah it’s been that way for quite some time which is why I always laugh when people talk about the Democrats being for the “little guy.”
It's painfully obvious that whatever the Democrats say they are "for", it's just the opposite. They're not only NOT for the "little guy", they are actively trying to crush him out of existence. Too bad the average Democrat voter can't see this.
Exactly. Watch what they DO and not what they say. All of the people who vote Democrat seem to just listen to what they say and not observe their actions.
The Dems used to accuse the "rich Republicans" of doing the exact things the Democrats are doing right now. Now it's the rich Democrats who are the major spenders and war mongers. Unfortunately, many Republicans are participating in the same activities, though. Uniparty in some cases.
Yes for many of them it goes way back sociologically for why they do it. I remember this being discussed in a PBS series on the history of different ethnic groups in America. Many people cannot break from the past and see that todays oppressed are not the deviants, but the rest of us!
Maybe some have woken up!
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/brooklyn/politics/2022/11/11/orthodox-community-shows-its-strength-by-toppling-democrats
Orthodox Jews have always leaned conservative. It's the rest of the Jewish community that can't seem to stop voting as a bloc against their own interests.
Ditto for the Greeks!!! Some have a mind of their own and weigh the issues and vote with their brain. The majority though having gorged on the leftist coolaid still votes with Democrats. Go figure
I’m amazed to learn many Jewish people, who are generally great business-minded people, vote Democrat; can’t imagine why!
According to a special on PBS, they vote that way because this is the party which traditionally stood up for the underdog and oppressed, of which they related to. Also that is why they tend to tolerate or embrace liberal ideas and causes. However, it is odd, as the idea of liberal causes has taken a culturally, anti family and God sick turn, and liberal Jews tend to still still be family oriented.
Angela, your first statement is essentially wrong and clueless on a few counts. If I were a member of “a certain minority group” and, like a great many in “certain minority groups”, do vote differently than your assumptions of me, I might take issue with these.
Please dont go all touchy and PC on me. 🙄That is what is wrong with this country today! I am part of an ethnic group and I am a New Yorker through and through, with a handle on the mosaic of my 'homeland' , having grown up and schooled and worked with every group of the great mosaic! Also as the geandaughter of immigrants I don’t get touchy when I hear generalizations about the sociological factors behind my etnic group or any other group. I find sociology intellectually fascinating. PBS did an entire series on each group and the historic whys of how they tend to vote became so much clearer.
Angela, thanks for the correction from your perspective. I'm not in NY and I believe your experience. What I’m seeing where I sit though, is that there’s a huge awakening amongst many minorities.
But my response was not touchy nor PC, in the least; it was based on what I see. I do resist the constant psycho-social push to get us to think in terms of groups and alignments and to see others as individuals; not categorizing people nor belittling them. This is what the manipulators do — and they’ve largely succeeded. We won’t disable that trap until we free ourselves from it, too. That takes grace and effort. Ragging about “them” — the brainwashed — may vent frustration, ally us with other like thinking folks and feel good, but it accomplishes nothing of value, sets our own blinders more firmly in place, and puts us handily in the same trap we’re decrying. Sociology, btw, is the most untrustworthy, inexact, manipulative quasi- science limited hangout on the planet, next to psychology (and modern medicine) — PBS is right up there, too. Not a great rock to build your world view on.
Here's the thing..growing up in NYC we were groups! Catholics, Jews, Irish, Greeks, hispanics, blacks, Italian, Lebanese, etc. Our neighborhoods were built on groups. Yet, we all got along outside of the groups, and got to understand each others group and mentality and culture. Cultural and religious backgrounds are what largely determine peoples views on many things including politics...though I believe in todays American culture wars this may all be getting a bit more fuzzy.
You are right. Many minority individuals are stepping away from the generalizations of yesterday, because todays politics are totally different in so many way
😉 Peace. ✌️
PS: I don't go on about the 'brainwashed'. I try to understand where many people are coming from. I also try not to condemn or criticize. I think we agree ! 👍
Thanks! & Peace to you as well, Angela. God Bless.
PS. My mother was an immigrant, too (Norsk farmer/fisher people who settled in SE Alaska) But I love the thought of you growing up with such vibrant, rich & varied heritages and families all around you. Here in the Northwest, it’s mostly admiring imitation & approximation. We do have a smattering of authentic old world migrants here — mainly in the way of truly ethnic family restaurants, Chinatown, fourth-generation Norwegian fishermen in Seattle, Catholic & Orthodox parishes & some & pockets here & there, & fantastic mexican & asian places. But, nothing is like the rich (true) diversity you’ve experienced. Makes me smile thinking about it & I hope you keep fighting to protect your beloved city. MNYGA!
I had made a comment the other day about having Covid a year ago and was attacked by someone who asked me why I thought I had Covid when it didn't exist. I was a zombie and "brainwashed" into believing what they are telling me to believe. I commented that I wasn't going to get into a back and forth whether it's Covid, bioweapon, whatever. I was sick. I told him to take his crap elsewhere. Came back at me full force and accused me of getting angry and I should have worded my Covid explanation differently. Anyway, long story but I deleted the whole thread as he would not stop. My point is my comment meant no harm and wasn't directed at anyone but this person took it upon himself to attack. This thread has been civil but I'm getting to the point of not commenting anymore as there are too many people who love to try to get people to react. That's what I told him and then shut him down. I'm not sure why he took it so personally but it seems it's happening more and more..
Yes...I think I, for one, way over-reacted. For some reason, many of the the comments this morning seemed just randomly grumpy and kind of thoughtless. (Amidst the joyfully generous ones!). I think when I got to about this point in the comms, I was ready to spring. In re-reading the posts above, I realized that I had taken them in the worst possible way — I’m grateful for Angela’s grace in engaging and wow, what an interesting person. From now on, I’ll stick to the kind of encouragement that I’ve come to like so much here and ehjoy writing — we need to stay positive & lift each other up. I had been affected by that negativity & then stupidly wrote. It’s contagious! But, so is encouragement. And we need that in spades right now.
Keep in the conversation, Tracy! You never know how your voice will touch someone.
God, Bless us all and strengthen us in grace, hope and a good sense of humor. (Mine has been lagging lately & a good bit of humor is balm ;))
Angela, just thinking...
Can you relate how things are these days in NY? My heart continually turns to the people in NY especially, when I think of the dire predictions re food shortages & supply chains failing. And we constantly hear about crime & city/state mal-management. Where I am, we can be pretty self-sustaining — lots of space & rural farmland. Fairly mild winters, too...
What’s really happening & do you & your community have a plan? Especially re food?
Thanks. Praying for New Yorkers.
For 9 years now I have lived in Florida, so I really cannot say.
Don't confuse criminality with anarchy. Anarchy simply means "absence of government" not "rioting in the streets". As such, it's actually very close to the philosophy behind the 10th Amendment.
However, anarchy has become synonymous with criminality and rioting in the streets because government is the only entity to enforce law and order (in a perfect world). It’s way past time for states to step up and do what our UNconstitutional government refuses to do. The situation at our southern border is a prime example of that. I voted for Abbott, but he is weak on this issue. Texas is powerful enough to have stopped this mess or at least curtailed it to a large degree, if the will to do so had existed.
The 10th Amendment is well and good, IF any state would invoke it. Do you see that happening?
Never discount the role of controlled elections either.
They, the voters, want it this way. This is what dumbocraps believe in.
No anarchy. Chaos, yes, but no anarchy. The country and its states, cities, and towns have plenty of 𝒓𝒖𝒍𝒆𝒓𝒔. They just happen to be in large part the scum of the earth, which is generally -- with rare, rare exception -- what power attracts.
They have no children and they despise their parents. The older i get the more righteous i see Gods sWord in commanding that we stone defiant 'of age' children and have social gender norms and death penalty and timely trials.
The real problem in NYC is APATHY. Not enough people are voting AT ALL. The uniparty is a given, opposition is considered futile. I don’t have the specific numbers (look it up), but in a city of 8M people, DeBlasio, who literally destroyed the city during his tenure, was elected *and* re-elected with something like @ 700,000 votes. It’s disgusting. I grew up in Queens but live in the northern suburbs now.
What most people fail to realize is that the change that impacts individuals the most is fought for and executed at the LOCAL level, not in DC.
A story: Vickie Paladino (R) is a fearless NYC council woman representing my old hometown in comparatively upscale northern Queens, fighting every woke policy you can think of - despite being in the council minority. She also refused to share her vax status during mandates. I know her personally (she’s my best friend’s older sister) and contributed to her campaign. She’s been called a female Trump. Seriously, no filter. 😂 She says a number of the Dems on the council agree with her stances and applaud her outspokenness privately, but they still tow the party line on council votes. The hypocrisy is despicable.
Here’s an example of the apathy I claim and why NYC will continue to decline. One of my friends still lives in the district and I have introduced her to Vickie. When Vickie won her hard-fought election, my friend was happy about it, but genuinely asked me how I thought it would benefit her personally. I asked, “did you vote for her?” She sheepishly said she didn’t vote at all. When I told her that local elections were important and where change actually happens, she asked if I voted (which of course I did). I obviously hit a nerve because she took it as a criticism and literally jumped down my throat.
Long rambling story (sorry), but what’s the bottom line? The moral of the story?
You may get what you vote for, but you also get what you DON’T vote for. Especially locally.
You could say the same about Chicago but we have decades-old, pervasive corruption to feed the apathy.
Good percentage of people are useless.
It’s downright infuriating, I think.
How anyone continues to live in that city is beyond me.
"How"? Maybe you should ask, "WHY". And direct that question, first, to Mister Patriot, Sean Hannity, who bemoans the "fact" that he just cannot bring himself to move out of the NYC metro. Tucker broadcast from Maine ... Rush broadcast from Florida ... Breitbart News streams from wherever the on-air anchor is at the moment. Heck, I can build a "studio" in my office for the cost of a decent mic and some acoustic baffle panels. But Li'l Sean? Naaahhhh.
When you have the kind of money he does, it can be Paradise. He is a New Yorker in his soul ( not to mention his worst of the worse voice and accent).
I was born and raised in Brooklyn. I lived in a northern suburb of the city for 30 years until 10 years ago.
New York, especially from back in the day never leaves your soul. You meet another New Yorker from your era and you understand and connect to each other despite different ethnic or religious background, despite different educational level. Nothing can describe it, so I don't expect others to understand.
I think if I had Hannitys money, I would still be there, atleast for half the year.
What you express is nothing remarkable to NYC. Natives of Seattle, Pittsburgh, and li'l ole Podunk usually feel the same about their home towns.
Maybe you can explain to me why the Orthodox Jews in NY who seem to have many conservative values always vote for the democrats. They are so numerous they could swing many an election but it never happens. And even when they are victimized by the criminals!
Don't 'Orthodox Jews' follow the Talmud? Maybe the answer can be found there?
It is changing:
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/brooklyn/politics/2022/11/11/orthodox-community-shows-its-strength-by-toppling-democrats
Trust me, I see the writing on the wall and I’d already be out of NY state, but my 93 yr old mom won’t budge - not even to escape the winters. She’s my #1 priority, so here I stay. I understand not wanting to move at that age.
It is beautiful and very expensive. The rich dont ride the subways.
In the boroughs, people have roots.
And ironically the mayor cannot handle the illegals..
What are these people thinking? They can't be.
Lefties = non critical thinkers
They have zero understanding of cause and effect. According to them, the policies are completely unrelated to the issues coming up 🙄 I actually heard a leftist say this and I was speechless.
if you believe in the integrity of the vote
Yep: "Make the process the punishment" (said either by Saul Alinksy or his Kenyan accolyte, The Anointed One).
Not Black Jesus???
Later Jay
I multiplied for his defense. Hopefully a great showing of 1000s of donor raising a ton of money will uplift him and send a message. I am proud of what he did. 👍😍
I donated at 9:30 and it was well over $222,000
10:05 and $240k and climbing! Glad to be able to donate to him.
Just donated ! It’s up to 292k! 11:15 am!
317k at noon.
I tried, link did not work. I'm gonna just log on directly I guess
It’s slow bc c&c is flooding the donations. Some generous c&c folks out there! Proud member and donor!
They seem to have changed the system (I didn’t have trouble before), and my donation ultimately did not end in a 2 because I thought the $2 I added for GSG would count in the total. I messaged Support and here’s the story:
“You can opt out of the optional donation to GiveSendGo by selecting other and then inputting a 0 amount. This way your donation to the campaign can end in a 2 like you prefer. We appreciate your generous donations.” I like supporting GSG, and this is how to work the numbers.
Wow! I just donated at 11pm and it’s up to almost $700k!! What a turnout in one day!
Nearing $900k this morning! I too did an amount ending in “2”, but agreed to an additional $4 to cover their costs, which may skew the C & C totals? Not too pressing though, helping Daniel & all masculine, prone to protect heros, is my only goal.
I "live" on social security, and if I can donate, most everyone else can. If you want to know what you really believe in, look at your checkbook.
Amen!!
I think the site was overloaded this morning. Not sure if my donation went thru so will ck later. The C&C army was storming the gates over at give-send-GO!!
I’m going to be honest, I usually read to the end then donate 😂
NOT today !!!!!!
Me too! As retirees living on a fixed income, I consider well about where our money goes. Politicians?…maybe…maybe not. But for a regular guy like this who was brave enough to DO the right thing - I didn’t give it a second thought.
Ditto!!
Me too!
I agree but its wierd to me his LAW firm created the page. I don’t trust that. Sorry Jeff.
His legal defense is what the money is FOR. Ergo, the money goes to his law firm.
Yea I get that but to me very wierd that the firm set that up. Would much prefer a friend and it go to the firm for payment.
I am wary of funds set up by friends. Prefer legal defense to go to lawyers. Jeff takes donations to help his covid freedom fight, and Bill Shipley has a fund to finance his many dozens of J6 defenses.
Here's the link to the J6 fund, Bill needs funds badly, he's covering 30 clients:
https://www.givesendgo.com/j6ldff?sharemsg=display
Not trying to be a contrarian here, but Cernovich makes a good point, these people voted for this, why should good men risk everything to defend them?
Bragg was elected by an overwhelming majority, Manhattan is 90% democrat. So either these people want this, or they are too stupid/uniformed to know that locking up criminals to protect people is good for society. They want this.
Yet good men are supposed to step up and protect these people? Good men are supposed to risk everything to be jailed by a left-wing nutcase prosecutor and jury? Those good men will be separated from their family, unable to provide for their kids, unable to see them grow up, and have their life ruined, for protecting people who want and voted for the mayhem.
Young urban women overwhelming vote democrat and propel these leftist thugs into office, yet good patriotic men are supposed to step in and protect them when the inevitable happens? No way, chivalry is a two-way street. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
Cernovich is exactly right IMO. Good men should save their heroics for people who actually appreciate honor, valor, and courage, and don't put communists that free criminals in office.
I would agree except…when good men and women are minding their own business and thugs like that one start harming people….good men and women instinctively protect. It’s in their nature. How do we live with ourselves if we turn away and let them be hurt when it was in our power to help them? That’s the difference between cowards and good men and women. We can’t turn a blind eye to thugs and criminals. 🤷♀️ even if we want to.
I don't like it either, but people have to learn from their actions. There's a real cost to be paid for mindlessly electing a communist just because he has a D by his name. Bragg made no secret about his intentions.
Personally, I avoid these situations by keeping myself and my family out of bad areas and situations. You could not pay me to ride a New York subway. It may sound cowardly but it keeps us from being victimized or being put in the position of having to confront one of these psychos. These people not only put themselves in the situation but vote for more if it. Particularly women, it's like they have a death wish.
I get it. And I do agree with some of what you say.
I also avoid places that are unsafe as well. I would not knowingly go to places that are bad areas or bad situations. That is not cowardly. That is being wise!
And you are also right that a lot of people voted for this therefore should live with the consequences. Those consequences would be brave mend and women not even being there to help in the first place. However, if good men and women happen to be there, I’m glad they would do the right thing and step up.
I'm not a 'good man' by anyone's standards, but I don't intend to allow intolerable behavior in my presence. Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. (not my quote)
Tactical thinking is never cowardly.
Suggested reading for all here, especially women, families with small kids, and folks who are perceived as being wealthy: "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker.
Just finished that book. I put off reading it because, as a Christian, I believe God did not give us a spirit of fear. He did, however, give us intuition/gut instinct/whatever you want to label it. The book speaks to that gift.
Exactly, that's why I think the title is a bit off even though I've heard great things about the book (have not read it yet). Trust your instincts, God gave us them for a reason. Don't let modern society guilt you into ignoring them.
It's a slippery slope when good people stop doing the right thing, for whatever reason. Like I tell my kids, you're responsible for what you do. Not for what anyone else does. I hope men never stop being gallant simply because feminists don't want it. And I hope good men and women don't stop standing up to bullies simply because the populace doesn't deserve it. Because then no one is doing the right thing.
I would argue the "right thing" is to take your family out of a lawless place and to protect them by using common sense. I have no obligation to threaten my own family's well-being by defending a woman who voted for lawlessness all because the guy with a "D" by his name supports and promotes abortion (and that's what it comes down to for many, if not most, young women).
Chivalry was a system designed to protect women as the weaker sex. The system worked in that certain behavior was expected of both sides. Women are not entitled to unconditional bravery from men just because of their chromosomes. If women want to do stupid things like vote for communists and ride unprotected in a lawless subway then they really should not expect men to step up and defend them.
We do what we do because of who we are, not because of who others are. I didn't refuse to wear a mask just to wake up people who wanted to stay asleep. I refused because of who I am before God. I didnt say anything about putting your family in danger because of chivalry (thats a stretch), but I can tell you my family experienced persecution. If men would understand their role before God, and fulfill it, this world would be a different place. This man on the subway did what his conscience knew was right, and in this evil culture, he will suffer for it. But the evil culture is not his problem. God and his conscience tell him who he is, not them. And it's God they'll both answer to.
Good grief.
In my neighborhood full of lefties and covidiots, I will not help them with anything. And trust me when I say they will not help you. Look what they do to themselves and their families. They're so screwed up who would want anything they had to offer. The only good thing about them is my kids have clear examples of who not to get involved with etc.
I agree and have found that leftists are the least likely to help their neighbors. However, let’s not assume that folks voted for this in all cases, as many elections are rigged.
Statistics collected over decades prove you are correct about leftists and charity. Conservatives and people of faith give more. "Progressives" apparently believe that charity begins in the government treasury, not in the individual heart.
So true. I once lived next to a very liberal couple, who were all “into” pet rescue. A stray cat showed up right when we were selling our house, but of course they couldn’t be bothered to help when I couldn’t bring it in. Another (conservative) neighbor stepped up and she ended up keeping the cat.
So, so does that make Annie up there a leftist? She states bluntly that she wont help people in her neighborhood.
No, it’s just statistics/ general trends. There are stats and there are individuals.
The argument is correct because people deserve the consequences of their actions. But the larger take-away is that New York is a failed state and really no different from Monrovia or any other failed state cesspool.
There are only two choices in life. Either stand up for truth and an authentic administration of justice based upon God's Law ... or roll over. Things have gotten extreme. The result being that choices are sometimes hard and difficult.
How does making right choices work in daily life? Well, I will defend my wife, if need be, with my life. My wife knows this. And the result is that the quality of life in the house is upgraded from what it could be, a thing of no consequence. That is, if a person knows that he or she can depend on someone to perform, then life is made good and the home secure.
The necessity to choose between Good and Evil regardless of the personal consequence in today's Woke climes should be a self-evident truth.
There's a third choice in don't put yourself in a situation where you are compelled to defend the stupid or reckless.
Remember that scene in Die Hard 3 where the bad guy tells John McClain to go into a black neighborhood wearing a giant "I hate (N-word)" placard as part for the ransom? Extreme example, but if someone is doing that and you drive by and see him getting the tar beaten out of him, would you help? Or would you think that guy was an idiot and frankly got what he had coming?
Things are not always black and white. The problem here is that people have made foolish choices to elect morons that free criminals, choose to live in an unsafe neighborhood, and then ride the subway which is notorious for being a rolling mental institution. They don't have to do any of these things but choose to. Then when as predictably as the sun rising things go wrong, people are supposed to step up and defend them knowing they will go to jail for it? No.
Of course I would defend my family to the death if it came down to it. However, it never has come down to that because I make smart choices to keep them and myself out of situations where it's required. If that makes me a coward then I'm proudly a coward.
The alleged third choice is not really a third choice. It is another choice separate from the first binary consideration of having choose between Good and Evil.
Instead, the alleged third choice is prudence. Within the context of Good and Evil, prudence is the exercise of wisdom.
Good points. They made their bed, let THEM lie in it!!
No one has ever said that doing the right thing is easy. If you want it easy, go virtue-signal in an inconspicuous way. "I voted" badges are good.
Wow, not sure if that was aimed at me but speak for yourself. How many violent thugs have you stopped defending this virtue you speak of?
People sure are big talkers demanding others take risks they have never done themselves. Go for it Lynn, maybe you can be the next Bernard Goetz.
And how is it the right thing to be thrown in jail, unable to provide for one's kids, unable to be there for them growing up? All to defend someone who voted for the mayhem and knowingly put themselves in a dangerous situation?
JeffC...It's possible you're being misunderstood by some folks. I think your main point is that you avoid potentially unsafe situations as a way of protecting your family, etc. and I agree with you. Avoidance is the #1 preferred answer to danger, and that is not cowardice but prudence, as another commenter phrased it.
True Ted, I think people should behave prudently by evaluating the consequences before they act. Like you state that includes avoiding potentially dangerous situations. But it goes beyond that.
I'm saying (actually Cernovich said it but I agree with him) they should not risk their lives, livelihood, and freedom by defending people who vote for and sanction anarchy. These people that some are demanding others defend, will be all too happy to vote 12-0 to convict them when Bragg or some other Soros prosecutor charges them with assault or manslaughter.
NYC has made it's choice to elect a communist who ran on the platform of letting criminals run free. That's what he said he'd do and they voted for him overwhelmingly. They are brainwashed dolts who think civilization is the normal order of humanity as opposed to a carefully constructed system of rules, enforcement, and common trust. They threw that out the window in a fit of self-righteousness as it made them feel good about themselves (Black Lives Matter!) and now they are paying the price. Now normal decent people are supposed to step up and defend them? Why?
And to those saying it's the Christian thing to do, I get it. But where does the Bible say we are compelled to defend people that intentionally bring harm upon themselves (and risk our own family's well being in the process)? Perhaps it's in there but I have not seen it. I quote Bible verses on here all the time and would *welcome* some scripture that clarifies this subject.
Anyways, I avoid it entirely by *never* putting my family in a location where mental patients roam free. We don't go shopping or to restaurants in bad neighborhoods ever, why would people do that? And if we are at some event and I get a sense that things are starting to get uncomfortable we leave. Period. My family always comes first.
As long as you are following Christ, no one (including myself) has any valid reason to criticize you. You are the leader of your family, ordained by God Himself.
For me, I ignore all that fake Christian crap about following government orders, etc. None of that means anything when the government itself is fully devoted to Satan. I take my orders from God, so I don’t give any thought to what anyone else says or believes. Psalm 118:8 is considered to be the ‘center’ of God’s Word. I put my full trust in God and every man can go pound sand. “I seek peace, but I am ready and willing to do horrible things to evil people in order to protect my family, or anyone I choose.” ~ me
My comment wasn't intended to be pejorative towards you or anyone else here, and i apologize if it seemed that way or in any way self-righteous. IMHO, the time is coming when we will no longer have many choices remaining, and we might consider what we are prepared to do to "keep what's mine." Further, painting everyone in a city, town or even a neighborhood with the same brush is unreasonable. Do we question a person about their political positions before we help them, or do we help because we believe we should? For those who are religious - and I am not - one might ask what Jesus would do.
Agreed, but dont forget that NYC is huge and Manhattan is only a small part of it. My entire family resides there; our roots from Ellus island started there. We are all republicans.
I do know some immigrant people who vote democratic for silly reasons like they think the dems are better for their ethnic homelands in foreign policy. 🙄
Very true in that NYC is huge, but aside from Staten Island most of NYC is very liberal and votes overwhelmingly democrat.
As an example, in 2020, Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens combined, Trump only got 20% of the vote, Manhattan by itself was 12%. In Staten Island on the other hand, Trump got 57%.
Aside from Staten Island, these people want this.
Yes the boroughs were always considered working class, and historically speaking they would vote blue. I understand why and it wasn't necessarily a bad thing..all that changed a few decades ago with the beginning of the culture war.
My extended family are educated business people and despite being New Yorkers, they always voted republican.
Staten Island is largely comprised of Italian Americans who left Brooklyn for larger homes. This ethnic group is family oriented, and to a large extent these days, business owners. It makes sense that they voted for Trump.
I had to try the GiveSendGo link several times before it finally responded. I hope that means there’s a flood of support coming in for this brave young man! I saw lots of 2’s in the recent gift list.
Yea, it wouldn't work for me. I'll try again later.
I dont see any, but i also stopped scrolling after awhile. And, i'm guessing most of the '2' donations happened shortly after this substack went out.
Barbara,
There's a bunch of them out there. They are keeping there heads down doing what young successful men are supposed to be doing. That's why we don't notice them, we should. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth".
But, there is an inordinate amount of attention sacrificed on the technically savvy overly vocal minority that jump up and down shouting, "look at me, look at me" as they virtue signal through there cell phones, etc. .... ad nauseam.
Later Jay
So glad Jeff set up this multiplier, he read my mind!