My husband & I both had an eye exam recently. We haven't had our usual annual exam for over 3 years. She asked us both if we had taken the covid shots. At first, the question bugged me because I couldn't figure out why it even mattered and that maybe she was one of those pro-jab doctors and I might have to suffer through a pro-jab speech…
My husband & I both had an eye exam recently. We haven't had our usual annual exam for over 3 years. She asked us both if we had taken the covid shots. At first, the question bugged me because I couldn't figure out why it even mattered and that maybe she was one of those pro-jab doctors and I might have to suffer through a pro-jab speech. After I answered her question (a big, fat NO to the jabs), I mustered the courage to ask her why this information was pertinent for an eye exam. She explained that she's seen a large increase of eye problems since the rollout of the jabs and many she suspects, is the result of the jabs. She's a new Optometrist to us but I gave myself kudos for selecting a good one!
My teenage daughter was suffering from anemia last summer and the first question the hematologist asked us was, has she had an vaccinations recently? I wonder if hematologists are seeing lots of new patients too.
THESE are the stories that the whole darned world needs to be hearing! That is terrible news for us - but I suppose the depopulation advocates are patting themselves on the back.
I had a typical blood draw scheduled with my husband last November as my husband’s company pays us to learn our BP and cholesterol #s. I’m a volleyball sports mom that goes on regular bike rides and dog walks and definitely not a triathlete.
I had to have blood drawn from both arms as my blood spurted out of the needle. The phlebotomist asked me if I was a Triathlete. I learned each Labcorp and Quest lab increased the gage of their needles for blood draws to accommodate for the THICK & clotting blood drawn from jabbed people. Therefore PURE BLOODS have blood that is too thin to be drawn in the new needles.
That makes sense now because the nurses have been having the phlebotomists come draw blood cause it keeps blowing… I thought they were lazy and fibbing.. now I know why .
I ask for the little butterfly needles bc my veins suck. I get blood draws all the time and haven’t seen any difference with those needles. Maybe ask for those??
The butterfly doesn’t work well for jabbed , boosted folks … butterfly best for little veins … that would be an interesting research study to see who is at risk for cardiac issues.
It happened to a relative who is a nurse in the maternity unit. She said in all her years, at least 20, she never saw a bleed out after birth like that. The woman was vaxxed. Scared her.
Yes. Probably from excessive menstrual bleeding. I know of several young women having menstrual issues with excessive bleeding for weeks. 3 to 4 weeks. They could not get an appointment at the gynecologist for 8 weeks. Once there the doctor said we have been seeing a lot of this lately. That's it. Nothing else. I at least bought them blood builder supplements as I told them I did not bleed like that after childbirth. It's not right. I hoped the supplements would prevent anemia etc. Useless doctors.
FWIW, I know a bit about iron supplementation as I have 3 kids who were/are elite runners. A typical red blood cell lasts 120 days in body circulation, but a pro-level runner who is clocking easily 70-80+ miles a week, thus circulating that same RBC a lot more times in a day, may see it last as little as 30 days. So iron supplementaton is a necessity.
You just need to take chelated iron (easy on the stomach) + Vit C in the mornings, separate from other multi-vitamins as there would be conflict in terms of absorbtion with all the other essential metals (zinc, calcium, magnesium etc) . There's also some kind of enzyme which builds up through the course of the day that inhibits iron absorbtion, hence the morning requirement.
I am a distance runner (not elite but I run 40-50 miles per week) and even for non elites, it’s definitely an issue for many runners, especially females. I have to take iron supplements too, whereas I never did when I was younger and not a runner.
The Blood Builder supplements actually include vitamin C so that is helpful.
I use this product too. Female distance runners tend to have issues with low iron levels and my functional medicine NP did tests and we discovered I had low levels. She recommended Blood Builder and I’ve found it easy to take and effective.
Yes. But as this excessive bleeding and anemia caused by the vaxx I feel demands a more substantial consistent support for what their body is going through. I am not a doctor. I avoid them.
This is my opinion based on how I approach health. Nutritional support through good fresh quality foods, sunshine and exercise, and supplements.
Completely agree Annie. Seems as if my adult daughter (who took all jabs) is having menstrual issues. Along with iron issues as well. My kids all raised on natural remedies, good home cooked non-processed foods....lived out in the countryside. Was always my plan to lay down a good foundation.
Once away in big cities like LA all that foundation seemed lost. Now both have many issues flaring up. But I am getting calls here and there for ideas and other ways to help them along. They seem to be dismayed with the "Standard of Care"
Keep being there. Both my adult children, 24 and 25 1/2, are moving out this May. I have supplements and powders and natural homeopathic remedies for them to take to their new home. I tell them that if they know this vaxx is BS, then everything told to us by the msm medical community has to be examined. They see how the homeopathic medicine works.
Your daughter may very well be anemic. I only offer this thought as something to consider. Anemia and hemochromatosis share some of the same symptoms.
I navigated my husband's hereditary hemochromatosis diagnosis. Doctor first thought hubs had "anemia." Hubs knew enough to say, "Nah...not anemic...It's something else."
Thankfully, he had a doctor who thought about it some more and decided to do additional blood work that included a 𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒍 iron panel. This includes key indictors for hemochromatosis -- ferritin and transferritin levels.
We're both of Irish descent, and the Irish have the highest rates of hemochromatosis in the world. Sometimes referred to as the "Celtic curse," the Irish even have their own association: https://haemochromatosis-ir.com/
𝙍𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩? Who knew? We didn't until my husband's diagnosis.
I wrote about it in more detail here: https://shethinksliberty.substack.com/p/the-cut-poison-and-burn-club-part. If you decide to read this, you can scroll down to the subheading "Hereditary Hemochromatosis" to read how we found out about it. In Part II of this three-part post, I continue and wrap up my husband's story with how we decided to approach the management of his inherited condition. No cutting, poisoning, or burning required.
She could try organ meat, too. No one here liked it, but we put it into French pate, and now they eat it. A friend suggested this for anemia and it is very easy to digest. Plus it puts a nice gloss on everyone's hair.
My cousin has had (she's in peri menopause) severe uterus bleeds, to the extent she's anemic. She's never had this problem and it started about 6 months ago (cue up, she's Canadian and what happened 6 months ago in Canada? Boosters!). Now, she's told she needs a hysterectomy. Oh, and she *might* have some type of cancer....
Not an expert, but did read or hear from some more-knowledgeable source (don't remember which) that the tetanus shot blocks our body's ability to uptake iron. An interesting detail to keep in mind for any who are concerned about keeping normal iron levels--
My health insurance company sends health emails so you can keep up with your health needs. Yeah right! The 2 big pushes besides covid and flu shots were shingles and tetanus shots. I thought "good to know what not to get." I do the opposite of whatever they recommend.
A friend fully vaxxed had subsequent blood issues. Anemia. Now she has a rare? blood autoimmune disease called cold agglutination disease. Cold causes blood cells to clump. That doesn’t sound good. She hasn’t a clue. She sent me crap about the superiority of vax to natural immunity in 2021.
My "friend", a former co-worker who has had 5 vaxxes and boosters sent a mass email out about how she had a very bad case of covid. Of course, she was on Paxlovid. I am wondering how she is faring. Haven't heard any health updates from her recently.
.....and those like her. I do not even try, anymore. As stated above, there is NO arguing with 'stupid'.
I have a family member that was sick for about 2 months (according to her) and is fully jabbed - can not WAIT for the next something or other (" I don't know what it is, but when they day 'get it's, I will hurry up and do it "), and refused to believe her illness was covid. 'Cause, the "vaccine".
My little sister the same. She disowned me the summer of 2021. She had already had Covid before jabs but now is jabbed up. We have reconciled though and she apologized but she and hubs have Covid right now. She’s still a believer though.
I had a covidian say after getting covid again that she was glad as now she has natural immunity too. I was left speechless. She did not see the irony.
Heard my brother say, oh I'm on an immune suppression drug (true) and that's why I've had Covid 4 times despite my being 2x vaxxed and boosted. Can't imagine the damage being done in his body. He's nearly 60 so... one of these days I won't be surprised to find he died in his sleep or had heart issues. He's got a murmur so... of course he also is on Statins which I'm being hounded to do... I tell you. What ever they can do to sell a drug. I have HPB too.. no meds on that either, I try to keep it down by not drinking alcohol, reducing coffee and hydrating. And watching salt in my diet too. I'm salt sensitive.
F you want to make your blood pressure normal within about a month, or less, and go back to enjoying salt, check out dietdoctor.com and Ivor Cummins and others in the low carb community. My husband was on two BP drugs and had to stop one of them within two weeks of adopting this lifestyle because his BP dropped too low. Probably could have stopped the other one as well, but that is another story.
I know you are not making this up because it happened to me. I went on a Keto diet (low to no carbs and no sugars of any kind) and my blood pressure went too low as I was on BP meds. So I had to stop the meds and my BP stays in the normal range all because of eliminating carbs & sugars.
I’ve been 3 years with normal blood pressure and I eat salt as freely as I like. And best of all I eat all the fats I want and lost 33 pounds. Love me some 🥓 bacon!!!
Salt is another myth that has no real science basis. Yes, some are salt sensitive but in the average person the body excretes excess sodium to create homeostasis. Our bodies know a lot more than the average doctor. Most actually need more salt. I salt liberally. Taking salt out never did a thing for my hypertension. Heavy metal detox and stress/anxiety relieving without drugs lowered mine significantly.
Do you know of Dr. Tom Cowan? He wrote a book called "Human Heart, Cosmic Heart". He says the heart is not a pump. A very different way to understand the heart than what he was taught in medical school, and what we are therefore all taught now.
We are electric beings. Why they use electrical shock paddles in open heart surgery. The water in our body helps conduct our electric processes. Including the heart. And water organizes itself in the body for these processes that keep us alive. Structured water. Cowans books are fascinating. It makes me wonder in awe at the stupendous miracle the human body is.
There's a nice youtube by Dr. Berg. I've found his advice really helpful. You are wise to avoid statins! All my friends who took them started literally losing their minds.
So sorry for your friend. But remember: "Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time." Some tasks are just hopeless.
As "seniors" (I hate being classified by something as arbitrary as age) shouldn't we have an obligation to work on ourselves, become more conscious and pass that along as a legacy to others? Life learning should be ageless, don't you think? And is this ever a period of time where we can learn! But I hear you...I run into the same thing. I'm just so tired of walking on egg shells.
I gained significant health advantages by changing my diet and lifestyle some years ago. These improvements were very apparent to all. People would ask...I would tell them and not one single person ever took my advice. So I don’t care anymore. My health is kick ass now at going on 75. On a swift river out west last summer my kayak got hung up on rocks twice requiring me to climb out both times onto the rocks and haul it to deeper water to keep going. In the middle of nowhere. I think I’ve got this. Lol. Baring the unforeseen but I’m not afraid. Cheers!
I know how you feel. I see all our friends circling the drain, but they get angry if we try to help with advice, so there's nothing to be done. Now I'm mentoring some kids from my university, trying to help the next generation (wait, that's the next, next generation, anyhow...) and make a new social circle because mine is already starting to die off, and now it's worse post-vax.
As someone pointed out to me the other day, I'm incredibly lucky. After leaving Woketopia (Santa Fe) and moving to a saner place, I've put together a group of nearly 40 people (and growing) who are tired of the status quo bs. While we may not agree on everything, we all agree that we need to be informed and to see how we can make a difference. Very grateful for this group.
It is a beautiful place, as is all of NM. I love Santa Fe. But I can't live in a woke culture. Just one story to show how pervasive it is:
I went to a meditation retreat at Upaya, a world renown Zen Buddhist temple led by Roshi Joan Halifax, famous for her work with cancer patients and the dying. This is a woman who hangs with the Dali Lama. Did she open the retreat with an invitation to peace? To humanity? No, she opened the retreat with Trump jokes. Isn't this the antithesis of Buddhist spirituality?
Many more woke stories to tell. It's a shame. Santa Fe and northern NM really are special, spectacularly beautiful, with a deep and rich history on many levels. I love SF; I miss it; but I'm very grateful to be residing in relative sanity.
Thanks. He’s got many other problems and is the most stubborn child I have ever met. His mom is exhausted. I seldom see him so I’m not able to be a good influence.
He probably has a bunch of food allergies, etc. And the vaccines they gave that age group were terrible, so he needs extra nutrition and active movement to get his body up and healing.
As a teen, I never knew my bad moods, anger, and pimples were due to food allergies. I got lucky because we moved overseas where western food was scarce, so everything cleared up. Then everything came back when I moved back for college. That's when I figured it out. I was lucky that I didn't get put on the pharma gravy train. If the boy has pimples or bad skin, the vanity card might work here.
Sorry to hear that. Since you weren't surprised, I'm figuring the diet is pretty bad. The docs will just set the kid up for a life of medications if the parents don't act to prevent it.
The doctor heading it wrote a number of books on paleo type diets. They really do work, even for older folks, and your grandkid is young, so it is much easier at that age.
Sorry to hear about your friend. The problem of the vax vs natural immunity is that very few people understand what "immunity" means and were sold a lie. For respiratory infections it doesn't mean you can't get it. It's not a one and done. It's a broad response that covers an entire field of similar viruses etc. So if you ever had a coronavirus infection (highly likely given there is a constant background of these e.g OC 43) you already had some immune memory as your immune system primarily looks for proteins that are functionally-constrained (if those proteins mutate too much it leads to a dead-end for replication) and makes memory to those (nk cell, tcell, mucosal antibody adaptations). The immune system is very picky about solidifying antigen specific antibody memory responses to non-constrained proteins (like the spike protein) because those can be both maladaptive by allowing more serious infections later on in the future (ADE) and may cause potential auto-immune issues.
If people had actually read up on the immune response to respiratory viruses, they would have upped their vitamin D and prepared themselves with off-label medicines/supplements and avoided these shots altogether.
A virus does not need to exists for vitamin D to be effective at maintaining individual health. In fact there is no proof that a virus actually exists. The media is gaslighting the public because there's a big NO VIRUS awakening. Visit the "No Virus" Awakening Goes International/Global - by Dr. Sam Bailey - https://tinyurl.com/5bkmvf2y
Yes… I have avoided it for three years… My husband brought it home… He is vexed I am not, and I didn’t recognize it, but it was at first… Unfortunately, it took me two nights before I moved from the bed… Needless to say, I broke down and got it… My very very good friend, who has been all over me all along about not getting the shot told me she didn’t get it because she had the latest vaccine… I’m going to *Now name her pin cushion!!!😳😂
Definitely do not pass on the ibuprofen recommend. Check out the associated lawsuits. The heavy bleeding must suck, but NSAIDs damage the kidneys, deplete glutathione, and a bunch of other stuff that is long term bad.
Yes, ibuprofen is a great drug but what they don’t tell you is that it is associated with increased cardiovascular events. Not just chronic use but even occasional use elevates one’s risk of stroke to some degree. Seems like everything comes with a trade off.
I guess everyone and everything promotes or has an element of fear. So many things cause strokes, kidney or liver damage when used in excess over time. Alcohol for example, when abused can cause extensive damage, when used in moderation it can be beneficial.
If you have a healthy lifestyle, I don’t think the risk of using ibuprofen for 2-3 days a month is great, or going to do much harm. I do think it can be of great benefit.
I’m a senior now, don’t need the ibuprofen and am extremely grateful it was available for me to use. I won’t live a life of imposed fear. Personally, I believe in moderation.
Ibuprofen will help lessen the flow. I used it during menopause. It made a huge difference. Avoid taking aspirin and vitamin E too. There are internet articles on it if you’re interested in learning more.
Adorable Cockatiel, Bridget. I had one for a long time. Sweetest old man ever. Got me in lots of trouble. Used to wolf whistle at women at my apartment complex when I put him (in his cage) on the balcony.
Doctors prescribe meds without informing about any interactions. I always tell people to ask their pharmacist. People still believe doctors care or will inform them.
Ibuprofen worked wonders for me. I had extremely heavy periods, so much so that I was afraid to leave the house because my bleed throughs were so heavy.
I was publicly embarrassed more than once because I would bleed through tampons & pads within 30 minutes sometimes soaking my clothes. Once it bled through so badly I had to scrub the seat of my car. I was in constant terror of bleed throughs.
My Mammogram “tech”, asked if I had the vaxx, actually it was asked on intake form as well. I asked why they were asking,( of course I knew) she said explosive amount of bad readings, lymph node issues and breast cancers!
"The U.S. government has secretly been tracking those who didn’t get the COVID jab, or are only partially jabbed, through a previously unknown surveillance program designed by the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), a division of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention"
"They’re also tracking noncompliance with all other recommended vaccines using new ICD-10 codes, and have implemented codes to describe WHY you didn’t get a recommended vaccine. They’ve also added a billable ICD code for “vaccine safety counseling”"
Lol you have to get me into an office where they practice chronic medicinal trauma inducement to ask me if I'm vaxxed. I refuse to go back after my PCP told me when would not prescribe Ivermectin if I got covid (during my annual physical) in late 2020. He defended his position based on "people are getting sued for that.". I retorted that some or many of his patients are dying because he would not treat them. You okay with that? " He changed the subject.
I had already answered in the negative when I got my mammogram before I knew they were tracking with the ICD 10 codes. But my GP already knew that I didn’t take the jab so they’ve got my data one way or the other.
as i understand it the ICD10 is key. they need a visit for that. yes they have our data. Mine knows I havent had it according to their system but i could have gotten it elsewhere. the ICD10 is what will be used in this major database as i understand it. connected to the banks ultimately
My step-son has a lump in throat he said started after his 2nd covid. Doctor told him probably not cancer because some days it swells more than other days. Almost a year and he does want it evaluated. Blames it on covid, he had two shots.
My new eye doc asked me the same question and I had the same reaction ha ha (thought I was about to get lectured). When I answered no, he responded with a resounding GOOD!
I love how the stigma is on getting the jab now. Yeah. They fell for it or caved or for whatever reason. So many health issues and they are nearly all vaxxed. I can't keep up with it. It's getting worse not leveling off.
I think that is SO true - but what also may be happening is that many folks are simply TRUE BELIEVERS, and have totally gotten behind the idea that the only way we will be saved, the only way "forward", is THRU "vaccination".......... and are tired of hearing our rhetoric. I fear that it is a bit of both at play here - and it's frightening to think they may not want to speak out because it contributes to the weakening of the narrative. Divide and conquer.
ugh, this scares me so much. I had vision correction in 2019 (I was blind as a bat from far away...actually qualified for a new free study/procedure from Bausch & Lomb because of it). It has been phenomenal....changed my life. But lately in recent weeks I am struggling to see the computer more and more. They told me this would happen as I lose my up close vision due to aging (plus they said surgery could accelerate it). But now I am worried maybe the jabs did something :-( I so wish we had known not to get these things back in 2021.
Please don't worry, Jen, it's not good for you! Follow the American Frontline Doctors protocol for reducing effects of the jab, and realize that right around 43-46 we ALL lose our close vision. I had surgical correction for far vision and now keep reading glasses everywhere, and don't mind using them.
Yes, I realized a year or so ago that they now have to ask about your jab status in case your symptoms are related to the jab. They need to know the full medical history. Yes, some will still use that for a lecture. Jeff will have to speak to this, but if they ask and once the narrative changes such that they know you had it and don't recognize your health issues are related, that could be negligence.
I just read about various eye problems that are increasingly suspected of being connected to the jabs. I am vaccine free, but I got a torn retina in January that had to be repaired via laser treatment. My ophthalmologist was great, but he didn't mention anything about the shots. Like all the vax fanatics would say (not!), my torn retina might have been SO much worse if I had gotten the shot. Lol.
If you can contract the virus through the mucous membranes of the eye from shedding vaccinated people or the those with covid, I would think it would indeed be capable of affecting the eyes in adverse ways.
Huh that’s interesting, I also had that question (and flu vax question) on my form before my eye exam, and left them blank as I find those questions intrusive. But this adds a whole new perspective. Kudos to you for choosing a sensible physician!
My husband & I both had an eye exam recently. We haven't had our usual annual exam for over 3 years. She asked us both if we had taken the covid shots. At first, the question bugged me because I couldn't figure out why it even mattered and that maybe she was one of those pro-jab doctors and I might have to suffer through a pro-jab speech. After I answered her question (a big, fat NO to the jabs), I mustered the courage to ask her why this information was pertinent for an eye exam. She explained that she's seen a large increase of eye problems since the rollout of the jabs and many she suspects, is the result of the jabs. She's a new Optometrist to us but I gave myself kudos for selecting a good one!
My teenage daughter was suffering from anemia last summer and the first question the hematologist asked us was, has she had an vaccinations recently? I wonder if hematologists are seeing lots of new patients too.
As an ob/gyn , I ordered more blood transfusions the last 3 years than in my whole 3O + career
THESE are the stories that the whole darned world needs to be hearing! That is terrible news for us - but I suppose the depopulation advocates are patting themselves on the back.
A large percentage of the covidians won't believe it anyway. They are so brainwashed. Some it is a case of wilful blindness.
SO brainwashed, Annie.
It pains me to see it - or maybe that's just the frustration over the level of it we see.
Ever feel like you wished you could shake a few awake ?!
I did. Now I just go with the flow. I only respond to those who reach out. It was driving me nuts. I only get upset when children are involved.
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Exactly right. Protecting the kids - too often a forgotten responsibility, these daze.
I think they were brainwashed, now they’re nervous and scared and hoping they can dodge a bullet
A lot scoffed or dismissed people who died or got injured from the vaxx. I had several say " I got it and I am fine." Hmmm. Such sympathy. 🤔
Most of my otherwise intelligent family.
I love your posts. ALWAYS on point. 💖
My question, obviously: Is that blood SAFE?
I will say no IMO .
Brandon is Not Your Bro, I need a good non-woke OBGYN. Wish you worked in the greater salem, Oregon area
Thanks but just being truthful and honest .
Of course! Its just hard to find good non woke drs so we all get excited. or disappointed. lol
My daughter's young obgyn asked her to get the covid vaccine 3x during her pregnancy last year! And put her in the awkward position of asking why not!
My unjabbed niece has a good midwife in Eugene? Is that too far?
Yeah it’s over an hour away but thank you! It’s good to know there are other awake Oregonians
I said the same damn thing! But he said hes not in provate practice anymore anyway? :( But it IS good having doctors spread the truth!
I had a typical blood draw scheduled with my husband last November as my husband’s company pays us to learn our BP and cholesterol #s. I’m a volleyball sports mom that goes on regular bike rides and dog walks and definitely not a triathlete.
I had to have blood drawn from both arms as my blood spurted out of the needle. The phlebotomist asked me if I was a Triathlete. I learned each Labcorp and Quest lab increased the gage of their needles for blood draws to accommodate for the THICK & clotting blood drawn from jabbed people. Therefore PURE BLOODS have blood that is too thin to be drawn in the new needles.
That makes sense now because the nurses have been having the phlebotomists come draw blood cause it keeps blowing… I thought they were lazy and fibbing.. now I know why .
Jeez...
Nightmare.
#AccountabilityNotAmnesty 💉💉💉💉
Wowsa. That's really excellent data. 💖
Can any phlebotomist get on here and follow up?
Thanks.
#AccountabilityNotAmnesty 💉☠💰💔
I ask for the little butterfly needles bc my veins suck. I get blood draws all the time and haven’t seen any difference with those needles. Maybe ask for those??
The butterfly doesn’t work well for jabbed , boosted folks … butterfly best for little veins … that would be an interesting research study to see who is at risk for cardiac issues.
I don't do well with needles. braver than me!
Wow. How awful. I hope everyone concerned is okay.
Because women are bleeding out through birth??
Abruptions and miscarriages and on the gyn side , heavy menses .
It happened to a relative who is a nurse in the maternity unit. She said in all her years, at least 20, she never saw a bleed out after birth like that. The woman was vaxxed. Scared her.
A friend’s daughter had a placental abruption at 9 months and bled to death. They lost their daughter and her baby.
And her hubby is left alone with her young boys. 😢
That is so sad. 😪
Omg , I am so sorry 😢.. tragic , what state may I ask ?
Missouri.
I’m so sorry 😢
Yes. Probably from excessive menstrual bleeding. I know of several young women having menstrual issues with excessive bleeding for weeks. 3 to 4 weeks. They could not get an appointment at the gynecologist for 8 weeks. Once there the doctor said we have been seeing a lot of this lately. That's it. Nothing else. I at least bought them blood builder supplements as I told them I did not bleed like that after childbirth. It's not right. I hoped the supplements would prevent anemia etc. Useless doctors.
Which supplements did you use? My daughter 50 yo has anemia.
MegaFood Blood Builder https://g.co/kgs/gQcAeB. I take one a week as I am not anemic but for the iron. It is easy on the stomach too.
FWIW, I know a bit about iron supplementation as I have 3 kids who were/are elite runners. A typical red blood cell lasts 120 days in body circulation, but a pro-level runner who is clocking easily 70-80+ miles a week, thus circulating that same RBC a lot more times in a day, may see it last as little as 30 days. So iron supplementaton is a necessity.
You just need to take chelated iron (easy on the stomach) + Vit C in the mornings, separate from other multi-vitamins as there would be conflict in terms of absorbtion with all the other essential metals (zinc, calcium, magnesium etc) . There's also some kind of enzyme which builds up through the course of the day that inhibits iron absorbtion, hence the morning requirement.
I am a distance runner (not elite but I run 40-50 miles per week) and even for non elites, it’s definitely an issue for many runners, especially females. I have to take iron supplements too, whereas I never did when I was younger and not a runner.
The Blood Builder supplements actually include vitamin C so that is helpful.
Wow the reviews for that are amazing. I might pick some up just cause.
I use this product too. Female distance runners tend to have issues with low iron levels and my functional medicine NP did tests and we discovered I had low levels. She recommended Blood Builder and I’ve found it easy to take and effective.
Is there any way they can get it from iron rich foods?
Yes. But as this excessive bleeding and anemia caused by the vaxx I feel demands a more substantial consistent support for what their body is going through. I am not a doctor. I avoid them.
This is my opinion based on how I approach health. Nutritional support through good fresh quality foods, sunshine and exercise, and supplements.
Completely agree Annie. Seems as if my adult daughter (who took all jabs) is having menstrual issues. Along with iron issues as well. My kids all raised on natural remedies, good home cooked non-processed foods....lived out in the countryside. Was always my plan to lay down a good foundation.
Once away in big cities like LA all that foundation seemed lost. Now both have many issues flaring up. But I am getting calls here and there for ideas and other ways to help them along. They seem to be dismayed with the "Standard of Care"
Keep being there. Both my adult children, 24 and 25 1/2, are moving out this May. I have supplements and powders and natural homeopathic remedies for them to take to their new home. I tell them that if they know this vaxx is BS, then everything told to us by the msm medical community has to be examined. They see how the homeopathic medicine works.
Thanks Annie
When my girls were little they saw a pediatrician who mostly prescribed homeopathic remedies.
And yes
Always there for them
Will check out that iron supplement
I love this! I took this after a hemmorrage through childbirth.
Has it been confirmed as anemia? Vs. hemochromatosis? Symptoms similar, but treating one when it's actually the other can lead to problems.
hemochromatosis usually affects males. it runs in our family and thats what we were told.
It shows up in males more frequently, less frequently in women due to menstruation. It can show up, though, post menopause.
All she told me was anemia. She works as a medical biller so 🤔. Thanks. I may keep my ears open on this.
Your daughter may very well be anemic. I only offer this thought as something to consider. Anemia and hemochromatosis share some of the same symptoms.
I navigated my husband's hereditary hemochromatosis diagnosis. Doctor first thought hubs had "anemia." Hubs knew enough to say, "Nah...not anemic...It's something else."
Thankfully, he had a doctor who thought about it some more and decided to do additional blood work that included a 𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒍 iron panel. This includes key indictors for hemochromatosis -- ferritin and transferritin levels.
We're both of Irish descent, and the Irish have the highest rates of hemochromatosis in the world. Sometimes referred to as the "Celtic curse," the Irish even have their own association: https://haemochromatosis-ir.com/
What? The doctors never mentioned it was an Irish thing. I should have found it myself, alas.
Thanks!!! I'll pass it on to the kids.
𝙍𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩? Who knew? We didn't until my husband's diagnosis.
I wrote about it in more detail here: https://shethinksliberty.substack.com/p/the-cut-poison-and-burn-club-part. If you decide to read this, you can scroll down to the subheading "Hereditary Hemochromatosis" to read how we found out about it. In Part II of this three-part post, I continue and wrap up my husband's story with how we decided to approach the management of his inherited condition. No cutting, poisoning, or burning required.
She could try organ meat, too. No one here liked it, but we put it into French pate, and now they eat it. A friend suggested this for anemia and it is very easy to digest. Plus it puts a nice gloss on everyone's hair.
My cousin has had (she's in peri menopause) severe uterus bleeds, to the extent she's anemic. She's never had this problem and it started about 6 months ago (cue up, she's Canadian and what happened 6 months ago in Canada? Boosters!). Now, she's told she needs a hysterectomy. Oh, and she *might* have some type of cancer....
To think all this need not have happened.
I sure hope she doesn’t.
Try red meat, the only source for heme iron which alleviated anemia
You're saying the answer is to eat more red meat?
Not an expert, but did read or hear from some more-knowledgeable source (don't remember which) that the tetanus shot blocks our body's ability to uptake iron. An interesting detail to keep in mind for any who are concerned about keeping normal iron levels--
My health insurance company sends health emails so you can keep up with your health needs. Yeah right! The 2 big pushes besides covid and flu shots were shingles and tetanus shots. I thought "good to know what not to get." I do the opposite of whatever they recommend.
A friend fully vaxxed had subsequent blood issues. Anemia. Now she has a rare? blood autoimmune disease called cold agglutination disease. Cold causes blood cells to clump. That doesn’t sound good. She hasn’t a clue. She sent me crap about the superiority of vax to natural immunity in 2021.
My "friend", a former co-worker who has had 5 vaxxes and boosters sent a mass email out about how she had a very bad case of covid. Of course, she was on Paxlovid. I am wondering how she is faring. Haven't heard any health updates from her recently.
And she doesn't see the irony of her having covid. 🤯
I think she is a little perplexed, but she is one who heavily drank that kool-aid. Still walks around masked.
There's no helping her. 😕
.....and those like her. I do not even try, anymore. As stated above, there is NO arguing with 'stupid'.
I have a family member that was sick for about 2 months (according to her) and is fully jabbed - can not WAIT for the next something or other (" I don't know what it is, but when they day 'get it's, I will hurry up and do it "), and refused to believe her illness was covid. 'Cause, the "vaccine".
I guess CNN has yet to tell them the news....
Where is that face palm emoji.
🤦♂️
Can’t fix stupid
My little sister the same. She disowned me the summer of 2021. She had already had Covid before jabs but now is jabbed up. We have reconciled though and she apologized but she and hubs have Covid right now. She’s still a believer though.
I had a covidian say after getting covid again that she was glad as now she has natural immunity too. I was left speechless. She did not see the irony.
Interesting how medical science just disappeared with the covidians (a vax that makes you sicker).
Heard my brother say, oh I'm on an immune suppression drug (true) and that's why I've had Covid 4 times despite my being 2x vaxxed and boosted. Can't imagine the damage being done in his body. He's nearly 60 so... one of these days I won't be surprised to find he died in his sleep or had heart issues. He's got a murmur so... of course he also is on Statins which I'm being hounded to do... I tell you. What ever they can do to sell a drug. I have HPB too.. no meds on that either, I try to keep it down by not drinking alcohol, reducing coffee and hydrating. And watching salt in my diet too. I'm salt sensitive.
F you want to make your blood pressure normal within about a month, or less, and go back to enjoying salt, check out dietdoctor.com and Ivor Cummins and others in the low carb community. My husband was on two BP drugs and had to stop one of them within two weeks of adopting this lifestyle because his BP dropped too low. Probably could have stopped the other one as well, but that is another story.
I am not making this up.
I know you are not making this up because it happened to me. I went on a Keto diet (low to no carbs and no sugars of any kind) and my blood pressure went too low as I was on BP meds. So I had to stop the meds and my BP stays in the normal range all because of eliminating carbs & sugars.
I’ve been 3 years with normal blood pressure and I eat salt as freely as I like. And best of all I eat all the fats I want and lost 33 pounds. Love me some 🥓 bacon!!!
Salt is another myth that has no real science basis. Yes, some are salt sensitive but in the average person the body excretes excess sodium to create homeostasis. Our bodies know a lot more than the average doctor. Most actually need more salt. I salt liberally. Taking salt out never did a thing for my hypertension. Heavy metal detox and stress/anxiety relieving without drugs lowered mine significantly.
Do you know of Dr. Tom Cowan? He wrote a book called "Human Heart, Cosmic Heart". He says the heart is not a pump. A very different way to understand the heart than what he was taught in medical school, and what we are therefore all taught now.
We are electric beings. Why they use electrical shock paddles in open heart surgery. The water in our body helps conduct our electric processes. Including the heart. And water organizes itself in the body for these processes that keep us alive. Structured water. Cowans books are fascinating. It makes me wonder in awe at the stupendous miracle the human body is.
Try a nice sea salt, too. None of that processed stuff.
There's a nice youtube by Dr. Berg. I've found his advice really helpful. You are wise to avoid statins! All my friends who took them started literally losing their minds.
Your treatment is way better than what they are recommending.
Check the Obits.
So sorry for your friend. But remember: "Don't argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time." Some tasks are just hopeless.
I never say anything and ignored her “help”. I’m alone within my circle of closer friends. All of us seniors.
I understand as my husband and I am alone with some family and friends too. Some will never wake up sadly!
As "seniors" (I hate being classified by something as arbitrary as age) shouldn't we have an obligation to work on ourselves, become more conscious and pass that along as a legacy to others? Life learning should be ageless, don't you think? And is this ever a period of time where we can learn! But I hear you...I run into the same thing. I'm just so tired of walking on egg shells.
I gained significant health advantages by changing my diet and lifestyle some years ago. These improvements were very apparent to all. People would ask...I would tell them and not one single person ever took my advice. So I don’t care anymore. My health is kick ass now at going on 75. On a swift river out west last summer my kayak got hung up on rocks twice requiring me to climb out both times onto the rocks and haul it to deeper water to keep going. In the middle of nowhere. I think I’ve got this. Lol. Baring the unforeseen but I’m not afraid. Cheers!
Good for you! Excellent kayaking adventure story...thanks for sharing it!
We have ascended to the age of wisdom. Wisdom that comes from experience.
I know how you feel. I see all our friends circling the drain, but they get angry if we try to help with advice, so there's nothing to be done. Now I'm mentoring some kids from my university, trying to help the next generation (wait, that's the next, next generation, anyhow...) and make a new social circle because mine is already starting to die off, and now it's worse post-vax.
As someone pointed out to me the other day, I'm incredibly lucky. After leaving Woketopia (Santa Fe) and moving to a saner place, I've put together a group of nearly 40 people (and growing) who are tired of the status quo bs. While we may not agree on everything, we all agree that we need to be informed and to see how we can make a difference. Very grateful for this group.
Santa Fe went bad? It's been decades since I went there, but it was such a beautiful area.
It is a beautiful place, as is all of NM. I love Santa Fe. But I can't live in a woke culture. Just one story to show how pervasive it is:
I went to a meditation retreat at Upaya, a world renown Zen Buddhist temple led by Roshi Joan Halifax, famous for her work with cancer patients and the dying. This is a woman who hangs with the Dali Lama. Did she open the retreat with an invitation to peace? To humanity? No, she opened the retreat with Trump jokes. Isn't this the antithesis of Buddhist spirituality?
Many more woke stories to tell. It's a shame. Santa Fe and northern NM really are special, spectacularly beautiful, with a deep and rich history on many levels. I love SF; I miss it; but I'm very grateful to be residing in relative sanity.
Just found out my 17 yo grandkid is pre-diabetic. Not surprised but it’s worrying.
Sorry to hear that. I'm a huge believer in life style changes for better health. I hope this is something he can manage.
Thanks. He’s got many other problems and is the most stubborn child I have ever met. His mom is exhausted. I seldom see him so I’m not able to be a good influence.
Here's a good young guy for him to check out,
https://www.instagram.com/bengreenfieldfitness/
He probably has a bunch of food allergies, etc. And the vaccines they gave that age group were terrible, so he needs extra nutrition and active movement to get his body up and healing.
As a teen, I never knew my bad moods, anger, and pimples were due to food allergies. I got lucky because we moved overseas where western food was scarce, so everything cleared up. Then everything came back when I moved back for college. That's when I figured it out. I was lucky that I didn't get put on the pharma gravy train. If the boy has pimples or bad skin, the vanity card might work here.
Sorry to hear that. Since you weren't surprised, I'm figuring the diet is pretty bad. The docs will just set the kid up for a life of medications if the parents don't act to prevent it.
Check out this department,
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/staff/19048-mark-hyman
The doctor heading it wrote a number of books on paleo type diets. They really do work, even for older folks, and your grandkid is young, so it is much easier at that age.
When I see your user name I automatically correct it to USS Nimitz.
Geez !
A great history in that name there!
A lot! The Nimitz was a fantastic ship.
Lol. " ...beat you with experience " - luv it !
So true, Pat.
It is a truism I came across years ago and it's never failed me.
I'm gonna steal it, and use that - " can't fix stupid " was beginning to get old, lol.
"Steal it " .... w/ your permission, of course 😁
All yours. Share the wisdom.
I saved that!! It could come up in a future stack I write, for sure!
Subscribed! I'll look for it!
Uh oh...the pressure is on. Thank you though.
No pressure! I write on a weekly basis (plus an upcoming book) and believe me, NO PRESSURE! Enjoy the day!
Sorry to hear about your friend. The problem of the vax vs natural immunity is that very few people understand what "immunity" means and were sold a lie. For respiratory infections it doesn't mean you can't get it. It's not a one and done. It's a broad response that covers an entire field of similar viruses etc. So if you ever had a coronavirus infection (highly likely given there is a constant background of these e.g OC 43) you already had some immune memory as your immune system primarily looks for proteins that are functionally-constrained (if those proteins mutate too much it leads to a dead-end for replication) and makes memory to those (nk cell, tcell, mucosal antibody adaptations). The immune system is very picky about solidifying antigen specific antibody memory responses to non-constrained proteins (like the spike protein) because those can be both maladaptive by allowing more serious infections later on in the future (ADE) and may cause potential auto-immune issues.
If people had actually read up on the immune response to respiratory viruses, they would have upped their vitamin D and prepared themselves with off-label medicines/supplements and avoided these shots altogether.
A virus does not need to exists for vitamin D to be effective at maintaining individual health. In fact there is no proof that a virus actually exists. The media is gaslighting the public because there's a big NO VIRUS awakening. Visit the "No Virus" Awakening Goes International/Global - by Dr. Sam Bailey - https://tinyurl.com/5bkmvf2y
pretty much. This is one example. there are many in PubMed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28505635/ (Sacks, 2017) "In children and adults, vitamin D3 supplementation reduces risk for acute respiratory tract infection"
Yes… I have avoided it for three years… My husband brought it home… He is vexed I am not, and I didn’t recognize it, but it was at first… Unfortunately, it took me two nights before I moved from the bed… Needless to say, I broke down and got it… My very very good friend, who has been all over me all along about not getting the shot told me she didn’t get it because she had the latest vaccine… I’m going to *Now name her pin cushion!!!😳😂
Vax causes misfolded proteins, kind of disabling hemoglobin. Jessica Rose has covered this a lot on her substack.
She does excellent work
My daughter is just off iron infusions. 50 yo. Vaxxed and heavy periods so anemia treatment.
Definitely do not pass on the ibuprofen recommend. Check out the associated lawsuits. The heavy bleeding must suck, but NSAIDs damage the kidneys, deplete glutathione, and a bunch of other stuff that is long term bad.
Yes, ibuprofen is a great drug but what they don’t tell you is that it is associated with increased cardiovascular events. Not just chronic use but even occasional use elevates one’s risk of stroke to some degree. Seems like everything comes with a trade off.
I guess everyone and everything promotes or has an element of fear. So many things cause strokes, kidney or liver damage when used in excess over time. Alcohol for example, when abused can cause extensive damage, when used in moderation it can be beneficial.
If you have a healthy lifestyle, I don’t think the risk of using ibuprofen for 2-3 days a month is great, or going to do much harm. I do think it can be of great benefit.
I’m a senior now, don’t need the ibuprofen and am extremely grateful it was available for me to use. I won’t live a life of imposed fear. Personally, I believe in moderation.
Ibuprofen will help lessen the flow. I used it during menopause. It made a huge difference. Avoid taking aspirin and vitamin E too. There are internet articles on it if you’re interested in learning more.
Actually, as a pharmacist I will tell you ibuprofen, an NSAID, can contribute to increased bleeding.
My mother trusts her pharmacist more than her doctor.
Twice now, he has prevented her from taking a drug prescription and an over-the-counter medication recommended by her GP.
Extra Strength Voltaren is one of them.
"Particularly, the extra contraindications for patients with severe heart failure ..."
And bad for the liver.
Adorable Cockatiel, Bridget. I had one for a long time. Sweetest old man ever. Got me in lots of trouble. Used to wolf whistle at women at my apartment complex when I put him (in his cage) on the balcony.
Thank you.
My Dublin was 27 and passed this February. He was so sweet and intelligent. I’m still crushed 😢
Doctors prescribe meds without informing about any interactions. I always tell people to ask their pharmacist. People still believe doctors care or will inform them.
Actually, you are absolutely wrong. Lol.
Ibuprofen worked wonders for me. I had extremely heavy periods, so much so that I was afraid to leave the house because my bleed throughs were so heavy.
I was publicly embarrassed more than once because I would bleed through tampons & pads within 30 minutes sometimes soaking my clothes. Once it bled through so badly I had to scrub the seat of my car. I was in constant terror of bleed throughs.
Ibuprofen changed all that. I was able to go out in public without fear. There are many articles online which also refute your claim. Here’s one for you that’s easy to read: https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/ibuprofen-heavy-period-flow
That sounds so horrific. Glad you found a way to fix it.
Thanks. I’ll pass this on. She may be in peri menopause also . Mine were heavy then.
She should see a gynecologist. It could be endometriosis too. I hope things get better for her. I know what a nightmare heavy periods can be.
I believe she has regular gyn visits. Then they start the “rule out” testing. I had a similar issue back around a bit younger in my 40’s.
MegaFood Blood Builder https://g.co/kgs/gQcAeB. Here's a supplement I used and bought for others too.
My Mammogram “tech”, asked if I had the vaxx, actually it was asked on intake form as well. I asked why they were asking,( of course I knew) she said explosive amount of bad readings, lymph node issues and breast cancers!
3 jabbed friends had the same issues.
Well my “ twins” passed with flying colors!😂
YES BUT they are also tracking vac status through ICD10 codes. You need to know this and not answer.
I have a concierge MD and I pay cash! Catch me if you can! Lol🤣
I have a few guns and I know how to use them! They can shove their “ codes”. Retired from pharmacy, I know the game! Big time.
Hey! how would you know? j/k.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/federal-government-tracking-unvaccinated
"The U.S. government has secretly been tracking those who didn’t get the COVID jab, or are only partially jabbed, through a previously unknown surveillance program designed by the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), a division of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention"
"They’re also tracking noncompliance with all other recommended vaccines using new ICD-10 codes, and have implemented codes to describe WHY you didn’t get a recommended vaccine. They’ve also added a billable ICD code for “vaccine safety counseling”"
Since Mercola usually has a paywall, and Jeff should get all our money :) ... linky for vid. https://rumble.com/v2875pw-cdc-plot-to-track-unvaccinated.html (3:40 mins)
Sorry. this is more succinct. That short vid is semi-lame.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/new-diagnosis-codes-for-covid-19
Lol you have to get me into an office where they practice chronic medicinal trauma inducement to ask me if I'm vaxxed. I refuse to go back after my PCP told me when would not prescribe Ivermectin if I got covid (during my annual physical) in late 2020. He defended his position based on "people are getting sued for that.". I retorted that some or many of his patients are dying because he would not treat them. You okay with that? " He changed the subject.
I had already answered in the negative when I got my mammogram before I knew they were tracking with the ICD 10 codes. But my GP already knew that I didn’t take the jab so they’ve got my data one way or the other.
as i understand it the ICD10 is key. they need a visit for that. yes they have our data. Mine knows I havent had it according to their system but i could have gotten it elsewhere. the ICD10 is what will be used in this major database as i understand it. connected to the banks ultimately
Yes, the banks. That’s the scary part. CBDC.
True. Don’t comply. Find something else to say.
The MDs are building a case against you whether they are aware of it or not. G
And I think most know. They are told they need to know for the ICD10 code I am sure.
My step-son has a lump in throat he said started after his 2nd covid. Doctor told him probably not cancer because some days it swells more than other days. Almost a year and he does want it evaluated. Blames it on covid, he had two shots.
Yikes. "Diagnostic approach to lymphadenopathies in patients with immune disorders"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34008169/ (2021, Costagliola, Consolini)
Lymphadenopathy at the crossroad between immunodeficiency and autoinflammation
Thank you Peter for this link.
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My new eye doc asked me the same question and I had the same reaction ha ha (thought I was about to get lectured). When I answered no, he responded with a resounding GOOD!
I'm loving this trend. The medical providers are more confident to stand up for science now.
Agree, but where were they in 2020, 2021 & 2022?? ☹️😠
are you also a dr? “md”?
Meh, more like they finally took their head out of their fleshy side and read actual data instead of what the 3-letter agencies recommended.
I love how the stigma is on getting the jab now. Yeah. They fell for it or caved or for whatever reason. So many health issues and they are nearly all vaxxed. I can't keep up with it. It's getting worse not leveling off.
At some point the damn breaks. It's simply a force of Nature.
I think that is SO true - but what also may be happening is that many folks are simply TRUE BELIEVERS, and have totally gotten behind the idea that the only way we will be saved, the only way "forward", is THRU "vaccination".......... and are tired of hearing our rhetoric. I fear that it is a bit of both at play here - and it's frightening to think they may not want to speak out because it contributes to the weakening of the narrative. Divide and conquer.
I thought the exact same thing! Vindication! But I still feel stigma over my being non jabbed.
My accountant had an eye issue after the jab, retinol.
My early 50s friend had a detached retina after his shots.
Searching for pfizer and detached retina gives many results like "Investigators Detail 6 Retinal Abnormality Cases Seen After COVID-19 Vaccination".
Of course to get the article published, they must start with "Although rare..."
I have an acquaintance in her late 30s/early 40s who also had a detached retina about six months after the shots (maybe after the first booster??).
ugh, this scares me so much. I had vision correction in 2019 (I was blind as a bat from far away...actually qualified for a new free study/procedure from Bausch & Lomb because of it). It has been phenomenal....changed my life. But lately in recent weeks I am struggling to see the computer more and more. They told me this would happen as I lose my up close vision due to aging (plus they said surgery could accelerate it). But now I am worried maybe the jabs did something :-( I so wish we had known not to get these things back in 2021.
Please don't worry, Jen, it's not good for you! Follow the American Frontline Doctors protocol for reducing effects of the jab, and realize that right around 43-46 we ALL lose our close vision. I had surgical correction for far vision and now keep reading glasses everywhere, and don't mind using them.
Above all, remember God will take care of you!
Laura Ann, I was going to post similar. I am telling so many people the same
Good advice.
:(
Yes, I realized a year or so ago that they now have to ask about your jab status in case your symptoms are related to the jab. They need to know the full medical history. Yes, some will still use that for a lecture. Jeff will have to speak to this, but if they ask and once the narrative changes such that they know you had it and don't recognize your health issues are related, that could be negligence.
This may be semintrue but its more about tracking via ICD10 and the CDCB coming. Beware!! ICD10 is supposed to be a diagnosis.
More adverse reactions hidden from the people. So incredible sad, especially since it's been known for a while.
https://www.brudirect.com/news.php?id=118349
One of my friends who got the poke exploded lke a poisoned dog. He is smaller than me but is just way more flab. It's awful.
You are lucky to have such a doctor! They have not been easy to find.
good to know before I go for my next eye exam
I just read about various eye problems that are increasingly suspected of being connected to the jabs. I am vaccine free, but I got a torn retina in January that had to be repaired via laser treatment. My ophthalmologist was great, but he didn't mention anything about the shots. Like all the vax fanatics would say (not!), my torn retina might have been SO much worse if I had gotten the shot. Lol.
Hahaha 😂
When I scheduled my mammogram they asked me that and I had the same reaction but it turns out they're getting lots of false positives from the jabbed.
If you can contract the virus through the mucous membranes of the eye from shedding vaccinated people or the those with covid, I would think it would indeed be capable of affecting the eyes in adverse ways.
Huh that’s interesting, I also had that question (and flu vax question) on my form before my eye exam, and left them blank as I find those questions intrusive. But this adds a whole new perspective. Kudos to you for choosing a sensible physician!
I still won't tell them. Everyone who thinks knows the vaxx is the cause. Screw them.