Not going to argue with the fact that many were coerced, but my husband was one of those who did refuse the shot. He was threatened and coerced, but even the military didn't get to the point of literally forcing anyone. Thanks to the Supreme Court injunction, my husband got out at the normal end of his contract with all adverse reports a…
Not going to argue with the fact that many were coerced, but my husband was one of those who did refuse the shot. He was threatened and coerced, but even the military didn't get to the point of literally forcing anyone. Thanks to the Supreme Court injunction, my husband got out at the normal end of his contract with all adverse reports against him purged. So, yes, military members can and did refuse the shot, and there are still people fighting the good fight for all those service members to be legally vindicated.
I personally know of many military who were thrown out of the Navy and Marine Corps and given less-than Honorable Discharge.
I'm a retired attorney. One of the misconceptions about the law that I see here and everywhere is that it is somehow automatic - that just because something is illegal, it can't or won't happen.
That is the furthest thing from the truth. Just because something is illegal or unconstitutional doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens every day in every jurisdiction; federal, state, and local.
In fact, my mentor, an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice emigre from Romania, prided us on the fact that under our system of law, Big Brother would take care of nobody - that instead it treated us like adults responsible for defending our own rights. It does not automagically swoop in like a helicopter parent to prevent the playground bully (usu. the Govt) from bloodying our noses.
So illegality means nothing. We have to stand up for ourselves.
This Air Force Reserve’s (8 years active duty) mom spent many hours researching for our son who is near retirement from the military, for the legal route for refusal of the vax. You could fill out a medical or religious exemption but almost all at first were refused (for all kinds of reasons). That’s how we ran into Coffee&Covid! Prayers answered. Although it did not help in his job as a pilot for an Air cargo airline, because the company gave the reason for the mandate was the majority of their contracts were government contracts and the company could not afford to lose those. Thus a mandate for EVERYONE, which then led to a group of pilots and other employees suing the company.
But for one pilot, with a wife with MS and 3 small children who needed the insurance and although he was so opposed to the vax, gave in and took it. The outcome was devastating! He was distraught and upset that he ‘gave in’ and when talking to our son, he would cry because he “was so weak” and “didn’t take a stand against the mandate.” Our son would pray with him and tell him that he was “the hero for doing a possible dangerous thing in taking the vax because of his love for his family and their needs” and that was what being a hero was. It didn’t stop there as the company harassed family members who’s husbands were against the company’s reasoning regarding the vax.
Our son’s friend hung himself in his hotel room waiting to start his next 16 days on duty...
You bet there are some suspicious thoughts about his untimely and unusual death and the pilot’s suit is stronger and keeps growing. Will they win? Maybe not in court but in their hearts and actions for their friend’s family, yes.
That is devastating and breaks my heart. I can’t even imagine what he went through and I’m so broken hearted for his family. And this story is exactly why these evil criminals are guilty of crimes against humanity. So shameful what has been done and the pain they have caused. 😔 This really is devastating. And I would agree something is suspicious. The guys wife has MS and he’s got 3 kids. He took the jab so he could provide for them. Then to turn around and hang himself? Something doesn’t add up. If he did do it, they caused this. Not him.
These are indeed the "times that try men's souls"...this dear soul was SO tortured and lost HOPE that he could recover some semblance of the life he once knew. My heart aches for his loved ones.
Yes, those left behind will have a big void in their lives. Our son said the wife told his crew she knew he would be so blown away that they all came to say goodbye. She said he was fine when he left the house and had had no problems with going to do his 16 days on flight. It was a complete shock!
He felt like a failure--he was listening to the wrong "voice"---the voice of despair and loss instead of the voice of our Savior--filled with JOY and HOPE for a better future. May we all listen to His voice instead of the "voice of the evil one"!
In point of fact, illegality appears to be much more the rule than the exception whether in the courts, in the branches, departments and agencies of government across the board. The present ordering of government is totally apostate what was meant to be post the Declaration of Independence (original constitutional states) and the formation of the Federal government according to its original constitution. Even the present governments of usurpation, state and federal power, act routinely in violation of their own constitutions and codes.
Absolutely, we also knew many people who were administratively separated. We thought my husband was going to be dishonorably discharged for several months. I didn't mean to be flippant about what people went through- I just don't want people who are still in the military (or those outside the system) to continue the mistaken impression that many of them have that being forced to take an EUA product is legal! I want them to understand their rights and fight for them, so this doesn't happen again. And I think reading the book I mentioned will give people the ammo they need to stand up in the future. It's really good, and it highlights the injustices service members went through, like those you're bringing up.
From Hunter Biden to the asylum-seeking person, it appears leftists and their causes and constituents have all the advocacy and legal representation needed to play both offense and defense while their opponents or counterparts have to pony up the $$$ and spend time to stand up for themselves which is why LEFTISM advances and Bullying works and erosion of the society and legal system is only ever stopped for an interval of time before it resumes its' course.
"That is the furthest thing from the truth. Just because something is illegal or unconstitutional doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens every day in every jurisdiction; federal, state, and local."
"Results-oriented jurisprudence" as one of the few law school profs who I actually respected used to proclaim when discussing this phenomenon. I used to experience this with dispositive motions before reelection-conscious circuit court judges. "If you don't like my decision, appeal it", and so on.
A very high up military friend nearing end of his career (within months) was denied his exemption and was going to be discharged so he appealed and the appeal took enough time that he was able to retire and meet his contracted end date, thereby avoiding the discharge. They were definitely forcing him out, just 2-3 months prior to retirement without a care in the world.
Hitler & Stalin just shot their non-compliant Generals ....... without a care in the world. But Our Compliant USSA generals got shot with the VaXXX ,..... somehow seems like Reckoning-Justice to me. Time will tell as SAD visits the Officers Club Golf Courses.
My son, a Marine, was forced out as a "deserter'- he even had to turn in all his uniforms, which HE had paid for, because they labeled him as a deserter. He was 3 months from completing his contract. March of' 22
I'm ashamed to know this about our treacherous government, but not the least bit surprised.
Two of my son's childhood friends from Mass - one an Army Ranger, one a Marine infantryman, were tossed out of the military like last week's smelly garbage.
My own son, an NCO in the Marine Corps, witnessed dozens of Marines who were given a less-than honorable discharge (the usual tactic) for refusing the jab.
Ted Cruz has a recent, excellent quote - "would be easier to state what he has done RIGHT, than what he has done wrong, since coming into office. And that is NOTHING!" ( I paraphrase, a bit - but that is the jist of it. I believe he was speaking with Hannity on FOX.
One unintended consequence of weaponizing 'dishonorable discharges' for reason of 'vaccine' refusal is that the purpose of the discharge category is rendered meaningless by any traditional standard of thinking. A second consequence in issuing such discharges arbitrary and capricious is that smart people will want to avoid the military like the plague. This further degrades and already degrade military.
Yes, even for those who 'saw all this coming' almost none foresaw the immense scale of the across the board onslaught against all of this. Back in 2008, the year I began my public political life, the word 'weaponized' this and that was not even in my mind. The first time I noticed overt weaponization was the IRS persecution of the Tea Parties under Obama and the Fusion Center/Homeland offensive against the Constitution Party, the Green Party and others, probably in 2011. And then it mushroomed, and very noticeably since 2020.
Now the whole world sees what is going on ... as in the United States now in last place on that 'confidence in' chart in today's C & C.
whats particularly heartbreaking is that so many people are too distracted or stupid or ignorant to resist or be skeptical. If one reads for instance Paul JOhnson's "Modern times" , he documents in meticulous detail the rise of totalitarian movements in the 20th century and how these regimes used every lever of power at their disposal to cajole, brainwash, fool, propagandize people. Lenin in particular was ruthless in using the existing bureaucracy to crush his political enemies. I remember the IRS investigating the so called Tea party. It certainly does seem to have exploded since then. The patriot act was the real enabler.
Soon none of this will matter b/c the US regime is going to collapse in a mountain of debt and hyperinflation
At the time of 911, I spent hours reviewing the evidence un covered by the many investigators, 911 Truth included. My wife couldn't figure on why I was so 'obsessed' with 911. I said that if 'they' get away with it, 'they' will surely do it again. And next time it will be much, much worse.
Well, 'they' the funding mechanism, the Western Banking Cartel are much smarter that were central bankers of the last century. 'They' might just manage get away with a bait and switch maneuver. HOWEVER, the Walk-Away of the rest of the world is the Big Game Changer. And the credibility of the United States, Canada, the UK, the EU, New Zealand and Australia is at zero. The Western Political Establishment is now a well perceived Clown World ... the whole Ukraine Provocation is showing the Western War Machine as a perceived joke. Russia can produce endless munitions, missiles, tanks and so on ... but the West cannot. And so, it's a pretty bad bad bad to bet on sanctioning and/or a short war if one cannot keep up with the assembly line ... and if what one is producing is not a match as to what a credible adversary can produce.
You’re probably right. It seems clear that the whole Ukraine situation is a giant money, laundering scheme for the Democratic Party donors and away to try to gin up political support for the Biden admin.
It’s almost like they had some kind of strategy meeting and somebody brought up the point that “wars always make presidents more popular “or some stupid historical trope like that and so this group of clueless Oberlin english major grads decided to start a “war” .
Plus these ppl seem to have convinced themselves that Putin is an existential threat to the world
I think that is the plan. It wouldn't surprise me if that lump of trash Biden has already surrendered to Communist China by signing a document placed in front of him by some treasonous WEF acolyte internal to the administration. Biden hasn't had a clue since he was installed. Nothing this administration has done has been a net positive for America, it's all been destructive to the Republic. They have certainly bowed to and helped the Chinese and other assorted tyrannical globalists (Big Tech, WEF, WHO) and there aren't enough lamp posts in DC.
My question these days is -- do we even have a government anymore? Like most things, it is some other kind of arrangement and somehow they just forgot to tell us about it.
Yes, the punishment for treason and treasonous money laundering? Yes, maybe it should be lamposts!
We have a "government". Just not the one envisioned by the Founding Fathers. It's fast becoming a dystopian nightmare straight from the pages of 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451. When they try to implement digital currency, it's completely over. That moment has to be what gets people off the couches and marching with pitchforks and torches or we'll be nothing but serfs controlled by our social credit scores.
The question is ... what kind of 'government' and by what criterion, and more importantly by what a priori organizing presuppositions. I am sure that the answers are various and sundry.
Surely though, when a government collapses and all descends into chaos, then there is an absence of government. And for my money, we the Collective West stand at the very edge of that precipice. Chaos, stupidity, clown rulers abound. And the rest of the world already sees this.
And with the Ukraine proxy war, first with the economic war (sanctions) failing miserably, and now with the kinetic hot war a dismal failure, the whole world is beginning to see that it is once thing to take on second rate countries, but another thing to take on a world class military establishment such as is possessed by Russia.
The failed West is now looking, even with its once vaunted military power, more like a paper tiger filled with clown wanna be 'rulers'. Want an example? Well then, I thought it totally shocking that a child-like Ursula von der Leyen, a failure in everything she has ever attempted, could possibly have been considered as the head of NATO! The rest of the choices in consideration were not any better.
Yes, I totally agree with you. The west has committed cultural suicide and 70% of the sheep around us don't care as long as Peter (the productive) is being robbed to pay Paul (Free Stuff Army). The school system from Kindergarten to the University level is an unmitigated disaster that has caused irreparable harm to our nation and do nothing but churn out indoctrinated marxists that think 200K a year salaries for working the drive through are a right (I exaggerate slightly). The only way we save the Republic is to get the National government permanently out of our schools, and we start meting out the justice that the communist left so deserves. It needs to be so untenable for them to even exist in our communities that they start to migrate to marxist paradises outside our national borders.
The best thing long term would be for the United States inc., to go broke and have the Private/Public Partnership's Fascist funding mechanism collapse. And 'the government' be forced to cut back to essential only functions. Truly painful, and a lot of people would die ... and as seen in the Soviet collapse. I would not want to see it, but painfully ... I don't see any way out.
I've been looking into BRICS in Durban, something about a common gold back currency or basket. August 22 to 24 this year. Here's one short thing. Take a look at BRICS. Still a lot of that old Sustainable/Socialist/Marxist jargon. Most of the countries are Marxist/Humanist. China and SA very much so. And the rest is Socialist. I realize this is a bit simplistic. None are as stupidly Woke Insane as is the West
This is shameful! I am ashamed of those military “leaders”. They aren’t leaders they are cowards! And the American people do not understand or even know what has happened and is still happening!!! This is why 4th of July was different for us this year. We have shame and blood on our hands as a country. This is not the country our service members and founders fought for. Everyone TALKS about how brave our military members are but you think this country would rise up and defend them agains this shameful travesty? Nope! Americans are all talk. This makes me angry. My dad is retired Navy and he’s not happy about this current military. My nephew is active duty and my son was discharged just in the Nick of time right before the phony manmadeupdates. We have been proud of our military. We just aren’t anymore. I don’t know why anyone would join at all anymore. And that is extremely sad. But it’s what “they” want. This was all designed to weaken America and they have succeeded. What a shameful point in history.
The good news is he is not dead and does not have myocarditis and a 20 % chance of death in the next 5 years and any other of the thousands of Bioweapon Injection Injuries. You all should be happy and proud as can be! Congratulations, smart, strong man.
The might have been developed with good intentions but the political class took it , like covid itself, and weaponized it as a political tool to punish dissenting political opinions
You don’t know that for sure. It’s possible that Fauci and his little Cabal were doing this research under the radar and they were in it for the glory. fauci wants to win a Nobel prize.
If you try to invent some thing with the ostensible reason to benefit humanity, and you blow up your neighborhood and kill people that still your fault.
Gen Early knows it for sure because that is what the DOD Contract for the " Counter Measure " Injection says on the actual contract. It is an Experimental Permanent Gene Editing Bioweapon Counter Measure Injection. ( Nothing to do with a " vaccine ". They lied to you. See on odysee.com President of Bayer Pharmaceutical admitting to audience of 6,000. that 95 % of the public would never have taken it if they didn't mislead people.
Also see Moderna CEO saying same thing on this site or rumble.com
You should look it up before commenting. See Dr. David Martin's Patent and Contract research with ID #'s and look up at the US Patent Online Office yourself. That is how we know things for sure, we follow the paper trail, money trail and dead body trail. This threefold evidence does not lie. After that, it is interesting to check the FOIA Email releases to see what the Bastards themselves ( including Fraudci and Hillary's )were saying about their disgusting acts.
I’m completely open to the possibility. I just don’t completely accept this evidence you were presenting. It’s very possible that this was legitimate by medical research being done illegally in a substandard lab by people who thought they were above the law and there was an accident.m
I hope we learn the truth one day
I hope there is justice
I’m medical professional and private practice. I never took any of those shots. I never let any of my children get any of them.
For me, it was simply enough that the government was pushing them
Because anything that the government does always, and everywhere has the exact opposite effect of its intended, or stated effect.
Anytime, a large mass of people wants to do something or things that a certain thing is the right thing to do. They are almost always wrong.
I hope You learn the truth one day. I'm satisfied with my truth of it, expecting gob-mint admissions is irrelevant, but in this case They/Them Admitted it as outlined above.
So do you think this was developed by the chi coms? The US defense dept? And why? Was the intention to intentionally release it to mass murder ppl. It would kill indiscriminately.
Fauci up to his eyeballs in Covid/VaXXX Depop as he was earlier with HIV/AIDS Depop.
NIH and especially NIMentalHealth are Mengle Missions of InHumanity/Evil. Fauci worked with UNC Chapel Hill, NC and other Universities on Gain of Function. When that became too broadly known within the Feral Gov Medical Big Pharma Complex research was off shored to Wuhan to continue to completion.
How, Why, and When (exactly) of release is beyond my reading, but there areplenty of MD's and Phd's that have illuminated further. Bill Gates did a "planning session in the fall of 2019 for a Pandemic, purely PHILANTHROPIC of him of course!
USSA Gub-Mint ??? DARPA, CiA, CDC, NIH, whatever, Why? NWO-WEFer Depopulation. The VaXXX was/ is continuing to be the Weapon.
"It’s very possible that this was legitimate by medical research being done illegally..."
Not a criticism but...... Due to the fact that you are a medical professional, you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. As a highly educated medical professional who "knows" his field of expertise, your brain/emotional state has an internal conflict trying to reconcile this new information that is a challenge to your decades long established paradigm of reality. So you try to fit it into your existing paradigm without shattering it. IE, your statement is an excuse.
I completely understand, and I’m very sympathetic to what you were saying, and I am truly open to the idea and possibility that what you’re saying is true. It wouldn’t be the first time that evil people conspired to hurt and maim and kill millions of people.
Gain of function, research has been done all of the world for decades. Just like nuclear physics research has been done ostensibly to create nuclear power plants, but also to create weapons.
You can experiment on viruses in ways that are meant to create better medicines and vaccines but you can also weaponinze them
What doesn’t make any sense to me is that if this was developed as a weapon and was released, it would potentially kill the same people who created it, just as indiscriminately as it kills everybody else
Point in fact, the so-called "virus" (if it is indeed actually a virus) is not deadly except to immune compromised people like the elderly who would pass if they caught a cold. (I don't believe it is a virus because it is a chimeric, replication defective "pathogen". See Dr. Martin.) This is illustrated by the all-cause mortality records. That is prolly the only statistic that could not be hidden. All through the teeth of the so-called pandemic, all cause mortality did NOT increase. Hello? It was all a psyops smokescreen. What did happen was that somehow the flu and the colds disappeared and were replaced by "covid deaths". Psyops. However, all cause mortality did go up AFTER the shot was rolled out and the all cause mortality rate is STILL increasing as we speak. From the beginning I said to anyone who would listen that they had to pay attention to all cause mortality because that would tell the truth in spite of the narrative being pushed.
Now, because the "virus" was replication defective, there is no way it could spread from a single point around the world as claimed. The only way it could spread as fast as it did was if the "pathogen agent" was manually released into the public simultaneously at different points around the globe. Let that sink in. Call it what you want, virus, poison, parasite, it did not cause an increase in death above expected baseline.
Side note: One reason I do not believe it to be a virus is the fact that the "virus" has NEVER been isolated from an infected individual. Why do you suppose that is?
In March 2020, my mother had a stroke and heart attack that left her paralyzed on her right side, on a feeding tube, and on oxygen. She went into a nursing home and we couldn’t do more than look at her through a window and talk to her on the phone. Within 4 months of being there, she was “exposed” to COVID, along with 20-30 other residents there. My mother tested positive and was asymptomatic, as were most of the residents. All of them were given hydroxychloroquine, vitamins C and D, and quercetin. All of them survived. What was truly deadly wasn’t so much the “virus”, but rather the treatment
The people who developed/created it didnt get the "vaxx". It is believed that many got a placebo. And if I recall correctly, wasnt congress exempt from the "vaxx" mandates?
So you believe that covid19 was an engineered threat ? You think that a group of oligarchs or elites conspired to create this thing and then make a “vax” which is the real killer weapon?
Yes?
I am open to this possibility
Problem is i never had the vax at all and I got covid in aug 21. Its a real illness that is very dangerous to some people.
If klaus schwab got full blown covid 19 it could have killed him.
Why would these elites release something that could hurt themselves?
How do I say this? A sociopathic narcissist does not "believe he is doing good" because he does not care about doing good. Such a person has NO empathy, zero, nothing. He is completely aware of the death and suffering he has caused just as he is completely aware of the suffering he caused little orphan children he was experimenting on decades ago. He just doesn't care - AT ALL. He only cares about what is "good" for him and if he has to slaughter millions to accomplish this, it never even occurs to him that he shouldn't do it. Never even crosses his mind. I know people automatically don't understand this. People have a highly misleading concept that there is a little good in the worst of us. In fact, people expect others to have the same outlook or moral framework, more or less, as they do. Nothing could be further from the truth. When you are dealing with narcissistic sociopaths, you have no idea how they think. Imagine meeting the Devil. Totally evil without any empathy whatsoever. There is NO COMMON GROUND with such people (or with the Devil). (In Christian theology, this understanding is developed in the doctrine of the total depravity of man due to the fall. Which is why only God Himself could save us.)
I guess that is one way to frame it. Though I don't know how that changes one's view of them. Are they therefore just innocent victims of their own misunderstanding? Is their defense insanity?
I think what you are missing is an understanding of how narcissists think and operate. A true narcissist is extremely convincing. Just ask any woman who was married to one for decades. They have the ability to convince you that shit is candy. But at the same time, they are fully aware of what they are doing. You might want to have a conversation with a psychiatrist with experience dealing with these people.
Fauci and ppl like him dont scheme to kill people. Fauci thinks he is a hero , a benefactor of humanity. Fauci thinks fauci is a smart effective leader who is willing to make the tough choices. Ppl who disagree w fauci or think hes a bad guy are only behaving that way bc they are jealous or are politically motivated, or they are bad people. If fauci does something are there are bad effects or outcomes well its unfortunate but that is the price we pay to move humanity forward.
I think my view of fauci is correct and this makes him far more dangerous than your interpretation.
This is the very definition of a narcissist and a despotic dictator
Lenin believed that anybody who posed his ideas in the revolution, was against human progress, and did not hesitate to resort to violence
He has no idea because he's a psychopath. He's no more than a pathetic serial killer that uses medication (AZT/Vaccines) instead of traditional weapons like knives or guns.
No hes not. He thinks he is doing great things. He thinks he is an accomplished man of science and he thinks he is improving humanities condition. Thats precisely what mskes him so dangerous
It's a Vietnam War-era quote attributed by then Associated Press reporter Peter Arnett to an unnamed U.S. Army officer at the Battle of Ben Tre during the 1968 Tet Offensive. Historian Victor David Hansen, among others, could find no evidence to support Arnett's claim of an officer making such a statement. It became famous as a way to encapsulate the absurdity of modern warfare. It was resurrected more recently after the Battle of Falluja.
For sure, and we have many friends who did as well. My BF retired before the plandemic, so he is no longer subject to it. But this is the FIRST shot they have actually been able to refuse. It would not have been possible until all of the controversy and legal attention culminated it to the point of SCOTUS having to jump in with their injunction.
That’s so great about your husband. That he knew he could say “no,” that he was willing to say “no,” and to fight for his rights.
The psychological adversity and abuse of the entire Viral Show really affected many people. And, many of us had to be reminded that yes, we truly can say “no.” And we don’t even need a reason.
Not going to argue with the fact that many were coerced, but my husband was one of those who did refuse the shot. He was threatened and coerced, but even the military didn't get to the point of literally forcing anyone. Thanks to the Supreme Court injunction, my husband got out at the normal end of his contract with all adverse reports against him purged. So, yes, military members can and did refuse the shot, and there are still people fighting the good fight for all those service members to be legally vindicated.
I personally know of many military who were thrown out of the Navy and Marine Corps and given less-than Honorable Discharge.
I'm a retired attorney. One of the misconceptions about the law that I see here and everywhere is that it is somehow automatic - that just because something is illegal, it can't or won't happen.
That is the furthest thing from the truth. Just because something is illegal or unconstitutional doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens every day in every jurisdiction; federal, state, and local.
In fact, my mentor, an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice emigre from Romania, prided us on the fact that under our system of law, Big Brother would take care of nobody - that instead it treated us like adults responsible for defending our own rights. It does not automagically swoop in like a helicopter parent to prevent the playground bully (usu. the Govt) from bloodying our noses.
So illegality means nothing. We have to stand up for ourselves.
Exactly!
This Air Force Reserve’s (8 years active duty) mom spent many hours researching for our son who is near retirement from the military, for the legal route for refusal of the vax. You could fill out a medical or religious exemption but almost all at first were refused (for all kinds of reasons). That’s how we ran into Coffee&Covid! Prayers answered. Although it did not help in his job as a pilot for an Air cargo airline, because the company gave the reason for the mandate was the majority of their contracts were government contracts and the company could not afford to lose those. Thus a mandate for EVERYONE, which then led to a group of pilots and other employees suing the company.
But for one pilot, with a wife with MS and 3 small children who needed the insurance and although he was so opposed to the vax, gave in and took it. The outcome was devastating! He was distraught and upset that he ‘gave in’ and when talking to our son, he would cry because he “was so weak” and “didn’t take a stand against the mandate.” Our son would pray with him and tell him that he was “the hero for doing a possible dangerous thing in taking the vax because of his love for his family and their needs” and that was what being a hero was. It didn’t stop there as the company harassed family members who’s husbands were against the company’s reasoning regarding the vax.
Our son’s friend hung himself in his hotel room waiting to start his next 16 days on duty...
You bet there are some suspicious thoughts about his untimely and unusual death and the pilot’s suit is stronger and keeps growing. Will they win? Maybe not in court but in their hearts and actions for their friend’s family, yes.
Little by little.
That is devastating and breaks my heart. I can’t even imagine what he went through and I’m so broken hearted for his family. And this story is exactly why these evil criminals are guilty of crimes against humanity. So shameful what has been done and the pain they have caused. 😔 This really is devastating. And I would agree something is suspicious. The guys wife has MS and he’s got 3 kids. He took the jab so he could provide for them. Then to turn around and hang himself? Something doesn’t add up. If he did do it, they caused this. Not him.
Absolutely our thoughts along with the vax affecting his mental health.
These are indeed the "times that try men's souls"...this dear soul was SO tortured and lost HOPE that he could recover some semblance of the life he once knew. My heart aches for his loved ones.
Yes, those left behind will have a big void in their lives. Our son said the wife told his crew she knew he would be so blown away that they all came to say goodbye. She said he was fine when he left the house and had had no problems with going to do his 16 days on flight. It was a complete shock!
He felt like a failure--he was listening to the wrong "voice"---the voice of despair and loss instead of the voice of our Savior--filled with JOY and HOPE for a better future. May we all listen to His voice instead of the "voice of the evil one"!
The very reason we who know that voice must keep speaking his words to this world.
AMEN!
That is horrible and so heartbreaking 😞 I really want the evildoers responsible for all this to get their comeuppance!!
They will. And we may never get to see it, but God has a big book!
Stunned by this. It does sound very unusual.
Extremely unusual! The last person he met with for a meeting even said that there was no indication that he was depressed in any way.
Exactly, to Fred Bennett’s comment.
I must learn not to multitask while on here😇
In point of fact, illegality appears to be much more the rule than the exception whether in the courts, in the branches, departments and agencies of government across the board. The present ordering of government is totally apostate what was meant to be post the Declaration of Independence (original constitutional states) and the formation of the Federal government according to its original constitution. Even the present governments of usurpation, state and federal power, act routinely in violation of their own constitutions and codes.
Absolutely, we also knew many people who were administratively separated. We thought my husband was going to be dishonorably discharged for several months. I didn't mean to be flippant about what people went through- I just don't want people who are still in the military (or those outside the system) to continue the mistaken impression that many of them have that being forced to take an EUA product is legal! I want them to understand their rights and fight for them, so this doesn't happen again. And I think reading the book I mentioned will give people the ammo they need to stand up in the future. It's really good, and it highlights the injustices service members went through, like those you're bringing up.
From Hunter Biden to the asylum-seeking person, it appears leftists and their causes and constituents have all the advocacy and legal representation needed to play both offense and defense while their opponents or counterparts have to pony up the $$$ and spend time to stand up for themselves which is why LEFTISM advances and Bullying works and erosion of the society and legal system is only ever stopped for an interval of time before it resumes its' course.
Taking control of your own personal health is an everyday moment.
Facets of which take a multitude of learning in what works best for you.
"That is the furthest thing from the truth. Just because something is illegal or unconstitutional doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens every day in every jurisdiction; federal, state, and local."
"Results-oriented jurisprudence" as one of the few law school profs who I actually respected used to proclaim when discussing this phenomenon. I used to experience this with dispositive motions before reelection-conscious circuit court judges. "If you don't like my decision, appeal it", and so on.
Well said.
A very high up military friend nearing end of his career (within months) was denied his exemption and was going to be discharged so he appealed and the appeal took enough time that he was able to retire and meet his contracted end date, thereby avoiding the discharge. They were definitely forcing him out, just 2-3 months prior to retirement without a care in the world.
Hitler & Stalin just shot their non-compliant Generals ....... without a care in the world. But Our Compliant USSA generals got shot with the VaXXX ,..... somehow seems like Reckoning-Justice to me. Time will tell as SAD visits the Officers Club Golf Courses.
My son, a Marine, was forced out as a "deserter'- he even had to turn in all his uniforms, which HE had paid for, because they labeled him as a deserter. He was 3 months from completing his contract. March of' 22
I'm ashamed to know this about our treacherous government, but not the least bit surprised.
Two of my son's childhood friends from Mass - one an Army Ranger, one a Marine infantryman, were tossed out of the military like last week's smelly garbage.
My own son, an NCO in the Marine Corps, witnessed dozens of Marines who were given a less-than honorable discharge (the usual tactic) for refusing the jab.
For this, and other reasons - is it any wonder young, healthy men and women aren't lining up to join the military, these days?
The Biden administration wants us to have a weak military for some nefarious reason.
Certainly SEEMS to be the case, right?
Divide and conquer, weaken and destroy.
Ted Cruz has a recent, excellent quote - "would be easier to state what he has done RIGHT, than what he has done wrong, since coming into office. And that is NOTHING!" ( I paraphrase, a bit - but that is the jist of it. I believe he was speaking with Hannity on FOX.
One unintended consequence of weaponizing 'dishonorable discharges' for reason of 'vaccine' refusal is that the purpose of the discharge category is rendered meaningless by any traditional standard of thinking. A second consequence in issuing such discharges arbitrary and capricious is that smart people will want to avoid the military like the plague. This further degrades and already degrade military.
definately weaponization and politicization of the jab...
Yes, even for those who 'saw all this coming' almost none foresaw the immense scale of the across the board onslaught against all of this. Back in 2008, the year I began my public political life, the word 'weaponized' this and that was not even in my mind. The first time I noticed overt weaponization was the IRS persecution of the Tea Parties under Obama and the Fusion Center/Homeland offensive against the Constitution Party, the Green Party and others, probably in 2011. And then it mushroomed, and very noticeably since 2020.
Now the whole world sees what is going on ... as in the United States now in last place on that 'confidence in' chart in today's C & C.
whats particularly heartbreaking is that so many people are too distracted or stupid or ignorant to resist or be skeptical. If one reads for instance Paul JOhnson's "Modern times" , he documents in meticulous detail the rise of totalitarian movements in the 20th century and how these regimes used every lever of power at their disposal to cajole, brainwash, fool, propagandize people. Lenin in particular was ruthless in using the existing bureaucracy to crush his political enemies. I remember the IRS investigating the so called Tea party. It certainly does seem to have exploded since then. The patriot act was the real enabler.
Soon none of this will matter b/c the US regime is going to collapse in a mountain of debt and hyperinflation
At the time of 911, I spent hours reviewing the evidence un covered by the many investigators, 911 Truth included. My wife couldn't figure on why I was so 'obsessed' with 911. I said that if 'they' get away with it, 'they' will surely do it again. And next time it will be much, much worse.
Well, 'they' the funding mechanism, the Western Banking Cartel are much smarter that were central bankers of the last century. 'They' might just manage get away with a bait and switch maneuver. HOWEVER, the Walk-Away of the rest of the world is the Big Game Changer. And the credibility of the United States, Canada, the UK, the EU, New Zealand and Australia is at zero. The Western Political Establishment is now a well perceived Clown World ... the whole Ukraine Provocation is showing the Western War Machine as a perceived joke. Russia can produce endless munitions, missiles, tanks and so on ... but the West cannot. And so, it's a pretty bad bad bad to bet on sanctioning and/or a short war if one cannot keep up with the assembly line ... and if what one is producing is not a match as to what a credible adversary can produce.
You’re probably right. It seems clear that the whole Ukraine situation is a giant money, laundering scheme for the Democratic Party donors and away to try to gin up political support for the Biden admin.
It’s almost like they had some kind of strategy meeting and somebody brought up the point that “wars always make presidents more popular “or some stupid historical trope like that and so this group of clueless Oberlin english major grads decided to start a “war” .
Plus these ppl seem to have convinced themselves that Putin is an existential threat to the world
It’s Putin derangement syndrome
The rise of the eastern bloc is a threat to their NWO designs.
Yes
I think that is the plan. It wouldn't surprise me if that lump of trash Biden has already surrendered to Communist China by signing a document placed in front of him by some treasonous WEF acolyte internal to the administration. Biden hasn't had a clue since he was installed. Nothing this administration has done has been a net positive for America, it's all been destructive to the Republic. They have certainly bowed to and helped the Chinese and other assorted tyrannical globalists (Big Tech, WEF, WHO) and there aren't enough lamp posts in DC.
My question these days is -- do we even have a government anymore? Like most things, it is some other kind of arrangement and somehow they just forgot to tell us about it.
Yes, the punishment for treason and treasonous money laundering? Yes, maybe it should be lamposts!
We have a "government". Just not the one envisioned by the Founding Fathers. It's fast becoming a dystopian nightmare straight from the pages of 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451. When they try to implement digital currency, it's completely over. That moment has to be what gets people off the couches and marching with pitchforks and torches or we'll be nothing but serfs controlled by our social credit scores.
The question is ... what kind of 'government' and by what criterion, and more importantly by what a priori organizing presuppositions. I am sure that the answers are various and sundry.
Surely though, when a government collapses and all descends into chaos, then there is an absence of government. And for my money, we the Collective West stand at the very edge of that precipice. Chaos, stupidity, clown rulers abound. And the rest of the world already sees this.
And with the Ukraine proxy war, first with the economic war (sanctions) failing miserably, and now with the kinetic hot war a dismal failure, the whole world is beginning to see that it is once thing to take on second rate countries, but another thing to take on a world class military establishment such as is possessed by Russia.
The failed West is now looking, even with its once vaunted military power, more like a paper tiger filled with clown wanna be 'rulers'. Want an example? Well then, I thought it totally shocking that a child-like Ursula von der Leyen, a failure in everything she has ever attempted, could possibly have been considered as the head of NATO! The rest of the choices in consideration were not any better.
It's going to be an interesting rest of the year.
Yes, I totally agree with you. The west has committed cultural suicide and 70% of the sheep around us don't care as long as Peter (the productive) is being robbed to pay Paul (Free Stuff Army). The school system from Kindergarten to the University level is an unmitigated disaster that has caused irreparable harm to our nation and do nothing but churn out indoctrinated marxists that think 200K a year salaries for working the drive through are a right (I exaggerate slightly). The only way we save the Republic is to get the National government permanently out of our schools, and we start meting out the justice that the communist left so deserves. It needs to be so untenable for them to even exist in our communities that they start to migrate to marxist paradises outside our national borders.
The best thing long term would be for the United States inc., to go broke and have the Private/Public Partnership's Fascist funding mechanism collapse. And 'the government' be forced to cut back to essential only functions. Truly painful, and a lot of people would die ... and as seen in the Soviet collapse. I would not want to see it, but painfully ... I don't see any way out.
I've been looking into BRICS in Durban, something about a common gold back currency or basket. August 22 to 24 this year. Here's one short thing. Take a look at BRICS. Still a lot of that old Sustainable/Socialist/Marxist jargon. Most of the countries are Marxist/Humanist. China and SA very much so. And the rest is Socialist. I realize this is a bit simplistic. None are as stupidly Woke Insane as is the West
https://www.manoramayearbook.in/current-affairs/world/2023/01/28/durban-to-host-15th-brics-summit-in-august.html
Which is the intended goal of everything they do.
This is shameful! I am ashamed of those military “leaders”. They aren’t leaders they are cowards! And the American people do not understand or even know what has happened and is still happening!!! This is why 4th of July was different for us this year. We have shame and blood on our hands as a country. This is not the country our service members and founders fought for. Everyone TALKS about how brave our military members are but you think this country would rise up and defend them agains this shameful travesty? Nope! Americans are all talk. This makes me angry. My dad is retired Navy and he’s not happy about this current military. My nephew is active duty and my son was discharged just in the Nick of time right before the phony manmadeupdates. We have been proud of our military. We just aren’t anymore. I don’t know why anyone would join at all anymore. And that is extremely sad. But it’s what “they” want. This was all designed to weaken America and they have succeeded. What a shameful point in history.
Jump on with the Lawsuits !
The good news is he is not dead and does not have myocarditis and a 20 % chance of death in the next 5 years and any other of the thousands of Bioweapon Injection Injuries. You all should be happy and proud as can be! Congratulations, smart, strong man.
The might have been developed with good intentions but the political class took it , like covid itself, and weaponized it as a political tool to punish dissenting political opinions
It was always a Bio-Weapon, Comrade.
You don’t know that for sure. It’s possible that Fauci and his little Cabal were doing this research under the radar and they were in it for the glory. fauci wants to win a Nobel prize.
If you try to invent some thing with the ostensible reason to benefit humanity, and you blow up your neighborhood and kill people that still your fault.
Gen Early knows it for sure because that is what the DOD Contract for the " Counter Measure " Injection says on the actual contract. It is an Experimental Permanent Gene Editing Bioweapon Counter Measure Injection. ( Nothing to do with a " vaccine ". They lied to you. See on odysee.com President of Bayer Pharmaceutical admitting to audience of 6,000. that 95 % of the public would never have taken it if they didn't mislead people.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GesdwrMev2YL/
Also see Moderna CEO saying same thing on this site or rumble.com
You should look it up before commenting. See Dr. David Martin's Patent and Contract research with ID #'s and look up at the US Patent Online Office yourself. That is how we know things for sure, we follow the paper trail, money trail and dead body trail. This threefold evidence does not lie. After that, it is interesting to check the FOIA Email releases to see what the Bastards themselves ( including Fraudci and Hillary's )were saying about their disgusting acts.
Yep. And Karen Kingston has documented it very thoroughly. Bioweapon.
I’m completely open to the possibility. I just don’t completely accept this evidence you were presenting. It’s very possible that this was legitimate by medical research being done illegally in a substandard lab by people who thought they were above the law and there was an accident.m
I hope we learn the truth one day
I hope there is justice
I’m medical professional and private practice. I never took any of those shots. I never let any of my children get any of them.
For me, it was simply enough that the government was pushing them
Because anything that the government does always, and everywhere has the exact opposite effect of its intended, or stated effect.
Anytime, a large mass of people wants to do something or things that a certain thing is the right thing to do. They are almost always wrong.
It’s like a law of nature
I hope You learn the truth one day. I'm satisfied with my truth of it, expecting gob-mint admissions is irrelevant, but in this case They/Them Admitted it as outlined above.
So do you think this was developed by the chi coms? The US defense dept? And why? Was the intention to intentionally release it to mass murder ppl. It would kill indiscriminately.
Fauci up to his eyeballs in Covid/VaXXX Depop as he was earlier with HIV/AIDS Depop.
NIH and especially NIMentalHealth are Mengle Missions of InHumanity/Evil. Fauci worked with UNC Chapel Hill, NC and other Universities on Gain of Function. When that became too broadly known within the Feral Gov Medical Big Pharma Complex research was off shored to Wuhan to continue to completion.
How, Why, and When (exactly) of release is beyond my reading, but there areplenty of MD's and Phd's that have illuminated further. Bill Gates did a "planning session in the fall of 2019 for a Pandemic, purely PHILANTHROPIC of him of course!
USSA Gub-Mint ??? DARPA, CiA, CDC, NIH, whatever, Why? NWO-WEFer Depopulation. The VaXXX was/ is continuing to be the Weapon.
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/pfizer-vaccine-batches-in-the-eu-were-placebos-say-scientists/
Look at the graph. 3 scenarios in EU
YES
"It’s very possible that this was legitimate by medical research being done illegally..."
Not a criticism but...... Due to the fact that you are a medical professional, you are suffering from cognitive dissonance. As a highly educated medical professional who "knows" his field of expertise, your brain/emotional state has an internal conflict trying to reconcile this new information that is a challenge to your decades long established paradigm of reality. So you try to fit it into your existing paradigm without shattering it. IE, your statement is an excuse.
I completely understand, and I’m very sympathetic to what you were saying, and I am truly open to the idea and possibility that what you’re saying is true. It wouldn’t be the first time that evil people conspired to hurt and maim and kill millions of people.
Gain of function, research has been done all of the world for decades. Just like nuclear physics research has been done ostensibly to create nuclear power plants, but also to create weapons.
You can experiment on viruses in ways that are meant to create better medicines and vaccines but you can also weaponinze them
What doesn’t make any sense to me is that if this was developed as a weapon and was released, it would potentially kill the same people who created it, just as indiscriminately as it kills everybody else
So what’s the point
Point in fact, the so-called "virus" (if it is indeed actually a virus) is not deadly except to immune compromised people like the elderly who would pass if they caught a cold. (I don't believe it is a virus because it is a chimeric, replication defective "pathogen". See Dr. Martin.) This is illustrated by the all-cause mortality records. That is prolly the only statistic that could not be hidden. All through the teeth of the so-called pandemic, all cause mortality did NOT increase. Hello? It was all a psyops smokescreen. What did happen was that somehow the flu and the colds disappeared and were replaced by "covid deaths". Psyops. However, all cause mortality did go up AFTER the shot was rolled out and the all cause mortality rate is STILL increasing as we speak. From the beginning I said to anyone who would listen that they had to pay attention to all cause mortality because that would tell the truth in spite of the narrative being pushed.
Now, because the "virus" was replication defective, there is no way it could spread from a single point around the world as claimed. The only way it could spread as fast as it did was if the "pathogen agent" was manually released into the public simultaneously at different points around the globe. Let that sink in. Call it what you want, virus, poison, parasite, it did not cause an increase in death above expected baseline.
Side note: One reason I do not believe it to be a virus is the fact that the "virus" has NEVER been isolated from an infected individual. Why do you suppose that is?
The real weapon is the death shot.
In March 2020, my mother had a stroke and heart attack that left her paralyzed on her right side, on a feeding tube, and on oxygen. She went into a nursing home and we couldn’t do more than look at her through a window and talk to her on the phone. Within 4 months of being there, she was “exposed” to COVID, along with 20-30 other residents there. My mother tested positive and was asymptomatic, as were most of the residents. All of them were given hydroxychloroquine, vitamins C and D, and quercetin. All of them survived. What was truly deadly wasn’t so much the “virus”, but rather the treatment
I personally had covid in aug 21. My wife and 18 yo son ( at the time ) had it all at the same time
It is definitely a virus and it causes a severe flu like illness that , you are correct, is not mortally dangerous to most
The people who developed/created it didnt get the "vaxx". It is believed that many got a placebo. And if I recall correctly, wasnt congress exempt from the "vaxx" mandates?
So you believe that covid19 was an engineered threat ? You think that a group of oligarchs or elites conspired to create this thing and then make a “vax” which is the real killer weapon?
Yes?
I am open to this possibility
Problem is i never had the vax at all and I got covid in aug 21. Its a real illness that is very dangerous to some people.
If klaus schwab got full blown covid 19 it could have killed him.
Why would these elites release something that could hurt themselves?
Interesting you say that about the Law of Nature. 🤔
That perception of yours ( also called " gut feeling " in English North American culture, likely saved you and your children's lives ). 😊🙏
Blessings
Fauci has been a mass murder/sadistic monster for decades and has built his reputation on the dead bodies of tortured children.
Dont disagree
But I think Fauci actually believes he is doing good.
He has no idea of the suffering and grief he has caused . He is in this for the glory ( he dreams of a nobel prize)
He is the very definition of a despot
How do I say this? A sociopathic narcissist does not "believe he is doing good" because he does not care about doing good. Such a person has NO empathy, zero, nothing. He is completely aware of the death and suffering he has caused just as he is completely aware of the suffering he caused little orphan children he was experimenting on decades ago. He just doesn't care - AT ALL. He only cares about what is "good" for him and if he has to slaughter millions to accomplish this, it never even occurs to him that he shouldn't do it. Never even crosses his mind. I know people automatically don't understand this. People have a highly misleading concept that there is a little good in the worst of us. In fact, people expect others to have the same outlook or moral framework, more or less, as they do. Nothing could be further from the truth. When you are dealing with narcissistic sociopaths, you have no idea how they think. Imagine meeting the Devil. Totally evil without any empathy whatsoever. There is NO COMMON GROUND with such people (or with the Devil). (In Christian theology, this understanding is developed in the doctrine of the total depravity of man due to the fall. Which is why only God Himself could save us.)
I disagree with you. As a medical prof i have been aware of fauci for a long time. Fauci thinks he is doing important work that will benefit humanity
Caceascu of romania always said he loved his people and his meant it.
Hitler cared about the german people
Lenin believed in the glorious revolution
Obama actually beleives alot of the nonsense he spews
Thats what makes these ppl so dangerous
They believe their own bullshit
I guess that is one way to frame it. Though I don't know how that changes one's view of them. Are they therefore just innocent victims of their own misunderstanding? Is their defense insanity?
I think what you are missing is an understanding of how narcissists think and operate. A true narcissist is extremely convincing. Just ask any woman who was married to one for decades. They have the ability to convince you that shit is candy. But at the same time, they are fully aware of what they are doing. You might want to have a conversation with a psychiatrist with experience dealing with these people.
Fauci and ppl like him dont scheme to kill people. Fauci thinks he is a hero , a benefactor of humanity. Fauci thinks fauci is a smart effective leader who is willing to make the tough choices. Ppl who disagree w fauci or think hes a bad guy are only behaving that way bc they are jealous or are politically motivated, or they are bad people. If fauci does something are there are bad effects or outcomes well its unfortunate but that is the price we pay to move humanity forward.
I think my view of fauci is correct and this makes him far more dangerous than your interpretation.
This is the very definition of a narcissist and a despotic dictator
Lenin believed that anybody who posed his ideas in the revolution, was against human progress, and did not hesitate to resort to violence
He has no idea because he's a psychopath. He's no more than a pathetic serial killer that uses medication (AZT/Vaccines) instead of traditional weapons like knives or guns.
No hes not. He thinks he is doing great things. He thinks he is an accomplished man of science and he thinks he is improving humanities condition. Thats precisely what mskes him so dangerous
I respectfully disagree. He's like an arsonist that always shows up to a fire trying to be helpful when in reality he's the cause.
‘We had to destroy the village in order to save it.”
John,
Did the Brits say that? And what is the meaning?
Was it a plague? Sorry, History not my strong point.
It's a Vietnam War-era quote attributed by then Associated Press reporter Peter Arnett to an unnamed U.S. Army officer at the Battle of Ben Tre during the 1968 Tet Offensive. Historian Victor David Hansen, among others, could find no evidence to support Arnett's claim of an officer making such a statement. It became famous as a way to encapsulate the absurdity of modern warfare. It was resurrected more recently after the Battle of Falluja.
Ok, got it. Thank you.
References an event in the Vietnam War
Yes and a military run psyop.
This is so wrong! So ashamed of our leaders in the military.
For sure, and we have many friends who did as well. My BF retired before the plandemic, so he is no longer subject to it. But this is the FIRST shot they have actually been able to refuse. It would not have been possible until all of the controversy and legal attention culminated it to the point of SCOTUS having to jump in with their injunction.
I am very glad about your husband! Well done!
That’s so great about your husband. That he knew he could say “no,” that he was willing to say “no,” and to fight for his rights.
The psychological adversity and abuse of the entire Viral Show really affected many people. And, many of us had to be reminded that yes, we truly can say “no.” And we don’t even need a reason.
Sovereignty over one's body. Always.
Do Not Comply!
That is good news! Your husband is a brave man.