I've admired RFK's anti-jab stance, but the rest of his policies have me as a hard "no". The VP pick pretty much secures that. I'm not really a fan of Trump's constant "the shots are YUGE!!!!" rhetoric as it shows a complete lack of understanding of his base, but the majority of his platform and past performance have me leaning that way.
I've admired RFK's anti-jab stance, but the rest of his policies have me as a hard "no". The VP pick pretty much secures that. I'm not really a fan of Trump's constant "the shots are YUGE!!!!" rhetoric as it shows a complete lack of understanding of his base, but the majority of his platform and past performance have me leaning that way.
I saw the blurbs about the Moderna combo shots on Twitter yesterday and ... hard pass. I'm pretty much out of the "get any shots" game unless there's some hard evidence that they're worthwhile. That may mean no missions work outside of the country, but I just can't trust the drug companies at this point. :(
Regarding Trump, he never publicly admits a mistake, that's just how he operates. We may see that as a character flaw, but for him it's part of a very successful system he has used over the course of his life.
Scott Adams explains how Trump uses "systems thinking" rather than reacting to every incident individually. He has patterns that he uses where he always reacts to specific types of events in the same, time-proven manner (such as how he attacks seemingly trivial figures that attacked him first). These often leave us shaking our head as we don't understand the reaction's logic in the specific incident. But that's because we don't understand his system.
I'm sure Trump admits he made a mistake to his kids when he does something in error, he's not evil. However he realizes that admitting an error or apologizing publicly is seen as an admission of guilt and is a weakness. This is particularly the case when his adversaries are acting in bad faith (which the left and Never Trump always are). He's smart and knows that you never admit being wrong to anyone acting in bad faith, as it will always be used against you. Apologies are reserved for those acting in good faith, of which there are virtually none in politics.
Once you understand this is how Trump operates, and it's a proven system and not just pigheadedness, his behavior makes a lot more sense. If he was out actively telling people to get more boosters or pushing mandates then I'd think about this much differently. But he isn't.
Thank you for sharing this. It seems spot-on IMO, from my own observations and from conversations with people I know who worked with him in the past. He's always thinking big picture. We also have to remember where he did a lot of his business: NY and NJ. IOW, he is pretty used to dealing with government overreach, unions, and of course, the mafia. Nothing would describe the current state of the US's bureaucratic machine better than to say it's a combination of government overreach, union grift, and mafia bullying. He knows how to work these people.
I have to laugh when people call Trump dumb. His style of speech is not "educated white collar professional," which is why people call him dumb. Basically, they don't like the way he talks, so they call him dumb. I see this trait of his as a plus, because frankly, it is mealy-mouthed educated white collar double-speak that got us into this mess in the first place. "Interconnected global trade relations" sounds a whole lot better to voters than saying: "we're going to take your jobs away from you and give them to people in other countries who will work for less and can work for less b/c their government doesn't yet cause their wages to be inflated by 100% or more with safety regulations." We need more straight talk. The media lies. Illegals are criminals. Etc.
As far as OWS/the clot shots: 1) he was the PR person for a business initiative. If someone has pics of him in a lab developing and testing the shots, please share. 2) He was lied to just like the rest of us. 3) He did not mandate anything, and he fought both masks and lockdowns. 4) He did what he thought was the right thing for his country in speaking for a program that delivered something nearly everyone was begging for.
We may not like it or agree with #4 above, but that was the case. The vast majority of people were begging for a "vaccine." Yes, that was dumb. No, they were not needed. Yes, people were fooled. Including people I know who are WAY more conservative than me. Doesn't matter.
Trump did his best to combat the fear porn by refusing to wear a mask, saying the virus wasn't that dangerous, calling for reopening, etc. But he lost b/c the entire information ecosystem, including current allies like Fox, X/Twitter, etc. were all in on the vaccines and all the "public health" measures at the start. Every time he said something rational (and true) he was called a murderer, with a literal death toll being shown on every news channel every minute of every day. So, maybe he's due a little grace considering he was the only accessible public figure trying to inject some reason and sanity.
Excellent point also that he brags about his role as PR person, but doesn't say people should go get more shots. That's a point I had missed and it's very telling.
Same here on people calling him dumb. Know-it-alls who have never accomplished anything in their lives, think a guy who won the presidency with no political experience, is worth $6B, lives in a mansion with gold-plated toilets, and is surrounded by beautiful women is dumb. Dumb but lucky I guess.
Everything else you said I completely agree with, you put it beautifully.
If you want to believe that Trump didn't know better because he believes the permanent state goons, well that's fine. You then have to reconcile the fact he got duped by the very people he claims he was going to take down. How do you think that is going to play out? And idiots like me knew not to trust the pandemic narrative and clot shot but the five dimensional chess player Trump couldn't figure it out? C’mon!
You should drop the TDS for a bit. As I've asked you before and you didn't answer: who's your better candidate? It's easy to throw rocks at everyone else, though, right?
Last time I checked, it's not a requirement for a citizen to vote and support the lesser evil candidate. The fact that so many here are ardent supporters of someone who was complicit with the greatest crime against humanity in the history of the world is mind boggling to me. You are the people who owe some explanations, not me.
There's nothing helpful about refusing to take a position and then throwing rocks at everyone who at least makes an attempt. The people who don't vote "cause" all of this mess just as much or more than the people who do.
The main point is - I don't agree with you that Trump was "complicit." By your standard, every politician and business leader in the world was more "complicit." Every medical professional who called for "vaccine" development, administered them, or suggested patients take them was more complicit. Every individual citizen who demanded a "vaccine" or encouraged someone they know to take one was more complicit. Which amounts to...the vast majority of humanity. So, roughly 5-6B people are more responsible for this than Trump.
Because Trump tried to stop the panic. No panic = no "vaccines." Trump was pretty much the ONLY public figure early-on trying to calm people down, which would have helped the world avoid the "vaccines" altogether if they had listened to him. The advisors he chose advocated against panic, against lockdowns, and against masks. Taking their advice would have meant the "vaccines" may never have been developed, or at the least would have resulted in less uptake. Of course, they were all de-platformed and fired...
As always, the deep state used narrative control to drive popular demand to get its way.
Excuses. You can't excuse the greatest crime against humanity. He was complicit because he had to have known they were dangerous. That makes him one of the worst criminals of all time. If he didn't know, he's an utter fool and deserves to be nowhere near the WH. Catherine Austin Fits said if she were president she would have to taken a bullet to the head over this issue, and so would I.
LOL. Like I said - and demonstrated - he was not complicit. Pretty much everyone else on the planet was, as much or more than him. And no, he did not "have to know" and having not known doesn't make one an "utter fool." Those are just self-aggrandizing and obviously false statements.
Continue to do TDS if you like, but please don't reply to my comments. I don't need the waste of my time in explaining my logic and getting logically poor, inflammatory responses.
"Orwell"...more self-aggrandizement. Goodbye, take care. (BTW, nothing shows your real intentions better than spending Easter Sunday trying to undermine the (R) nominee by attacking comments from a 3-day old post. LOL!)
I think what some of us are concerned with, is not that he should have known better back then, but NOW we have evidence that the shots are dangerous and deadly, and that they must be stopped immediately. Otherwise new ones will keep coming at us and our brainwashed fellow citizens will still line up for them. That would include my whole family. I don’t blame him for the development of the shots at all. I just want him to protect us from them now. I would love it if he told his loyal followers to avoid the jab.
My take is that it's not really his job to do this. I think a big lesson - maybe the biggest lesson - of the Trump era is a reminder that we need to make our own decisions and not rely on government or "leaders" or "superheroes" for information or guidance. It was always true, it's just that many of us forgot. Trump helped remind us what liars they all are. All of them.
That said, I don't think that it would make a difference. I can tell you of the dozens of people I know across my extended family who are Trump supporters not one of them would or would not take the shot b/c of what Trump said. It hasn't affected their decisions to date. It's just not a consideration. They are adults making their own (sometimes poor) decisions.
And really, politically, let's be real...if he said 'they're poison, stop taking them,' what is that going to do for the entrenched PTB that own the media, the schools, the medical system? It's going to drive more lefties their way for shots. And they'll use it as ammo again to get their base excited. Like they did when he said masks don't work, and we ended up with mask mandates. Or when he said covid had an IFR below 1%, and they screeched it could be as high as 5%. Or, when he said reopen things, and they called him a murderer.
I think he's threading the needle just fine. Given what he's survived so far, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He might just be better at politics than all of us here.
RU, you make logical sense and do not employ emotions/feeling to make your point(s). TY.
I voted for Trump twice and voted for him in the primary this year. Yet as much as I was glad he was our president, and want him to become #47, I did NOT take the shot. That is/was MY personal decision and I do not follow blindly what anyone says, no matter who they are.
Thank you for that in-depth explanation because it has really bothered me. But I see the logic in it and deep down. I think that was kind of what I was thinking, but didn’t know how to verbalize it.
The enemy (whatever you want to call them) played Trump's ego perfectly to roll him on Convid and the "vaccine." While this is infuriating, and self-inflicted, the second Trump backtracks on either, he will be absolutely crushed. After 4 years of ignoring and censoring the impact of lockdowns, and millions of vaxx injuries and deaths, the corrupt to the core media and social media platforms will pivot instantly to turn over every rock looking for anybody injured/killed by "Trump's vaxx" or harmed by "Trump's lockdown." They'll throw ANY person, institution, or company under the bus while doing so. Splitting hairs over who implemented lockdowns or mandated vaccines won't matter. It's a trap the enemy is waiting to spring.
Thank you for this, Jeff. On the rare occasion that I "argue Trump" with anyone, I also remind them that his errors or mistakes were not intended to harm us, the citizens. Unlike the Dems, whose entire EXISTENCE is devoted to harming us.
Occam’s razor: Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD can never never never never admit that they are wrong or made a mistake, or even that they were fooled by others. It is not possible. In spite of this, I would much rather see him win over Biden. I wouldn’t write off Kennedy that quickly. I know work with plenty of disenchanted Republicans that seem undaunted by his VP pick. They admire her poverty to riches and success story. There are also more independents in the US than Democrats or Republicans. People who were all in for Trump never would’ve voted for Kennedy anyway. I also understand the gratitude of many Trump voters who credit him with picking the judges to overturn Roe v Wade. They are not wrong there. I bailed on the Dems (who now horrify me) and will be voting for a lot of Republicans. I constantly remind people that the Democrats were the pro slavery party before the Civil War, and that today it seems like the Republicans are the ones trying to defend the constitution However, I am no longer tribal. I feel the divisiveness in this country is toxic and killing us. And while we are drowning in this poison of animosity between the two parties, the globalists are around our next like a boa constrictor, and pouring gasoline on the fire. They love it when we fight each other. And fighting each other is even sometimes a form of addiction. That’s one of many reasons why I like Kennedy. I think that he is the only one who can protect us from the carnivorous agency capture that is devouring our health, safety and money. If he can’t win, I hope Trump does. Please understand that by saying this, my entire family would shoot me! Give me some credit here even though I probably just upset some of you. I respect all of you. We are all Americans, and I believe we are all fighting to overcome evil in our different ways.
I'm not so sure I agree with that. The Bible does not tell us we must extend the same courtesies to those acting in bad faith that we do to those in good faith. Forgiveness follows repentance (a good faith act of sorrow) it's not automatic. Standing up to evil (a judgmental act that the Bible commands) is by it's very definition hostile and confrontational.
It's a complicated question that I don't fully comprehend. But going along with people acting in bad faith to make them feel better is why we now have some churches waving trans flags. Recall also that absurd Superbowl commercial which had Christ washing the feet of proud, unrepentant sinners. That's not the Jesus of the Bible.
Clearly there's a point where Christians are compelled to say enough. I'd say that refusing to apologize to people acting in deliberate, outright, bad faith falls in line with that.
Just finished Proverbs an hour or so ago. So many of these wise sayings point to just that: how to deal with the wicked/evil. And how to deal with the poor/just. Differently.
So what are we going to do Tom, hang him in the public square? This isn't a rhetorical question.
He promoted the shot when he believed in it, and he took the shot himself if you remember. So why it may have been foolish, it wasn't disingenuous or hypocritical. And when the did the President of the US become people's personal physician? I have tremendous admiration for President Trump but didn't take the shot because I think for myself.
My former pastor (now retired) who is by just about every standard a great, sincere man also urged the congregation to take the shot. He did this because he had buried almost two dozen people from Covid deaths (it's a big church) and believed Public Health officials were acting in good faith. Of course he was wrong and I didn't follow his recommendation again because I think for myself.
I don't know what to tell you except that people are responsible for their own actions. And if anyone allows an experimental injection to be pumped into them because their president, pastor, or some other person told them too then they are fools. We all make mistakes and hopefully people learn from them but blaming Trump for people taking the shot is beyond absurd. Trump took the shot and recommended others also do it. They then made the choice, not Trump.
Yet people insist he do the sackcloth and ashes routine on this as if every single vax recipient didn't say "yes" and acquiesce. These purity tests are going to destroy our last hope to stop the Bolsheviks from taking over the country. I hope it's just foolish thinking but I really am starting to wonder exactly what is going through people's heads.
Excellent response. I too think for myself and did not get the jab, even though I voted for Trump and will again. Trump tried to offer suggestions and was mocked unmercifully. FDA even had to finally be forced to remove their You’re Not a Horse or a Cow posts. The agencies with ties to Big Pharma fought Trump at every suggestion
There's a big difference between hanging someone in a public square and expecting accountability from someone who had it under their purview to require that an "Emergency Authorization" not be implemented under false pretenses. I seem to remember him also promoting hydroxychloroquine, which would preclude the use of an EUA.
If he was unable to say "the buck stops here" then, he will be unable to say it in the future.
"He took the shot when he believed in it." I can't attest to what anyone put in their arm, especially if they did it to further a narrative.
Your one dimensional thinking is the reason we will likely lose this country to people who actively hate us and are satanic. You demand purity to your specific belief set which no one can attain.
Yes, wanting people who are responsible for the biggest crime against humanity in world history to be held accountable is dangerous. Wow. You are the dangerous one if you are unable to see how Orwellian this is.
The shots were released by the Defense Dept. and the National Security agencies. The mRNA platform had been around since at least 2005 and everyone in the know was dying to find a reason to use them. Here's the best explanation I've seen yet: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/why-was-mrna-the-government-vaccine
RFK did a great service with his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. I learned soooo much reading it. He gets it re: government corruption (namely such as CIA).
Beyond these I’m not on the page with him.
Grateful if he’s interfering with Biden’s chances. But that’s it.
Read his Wuhan book too. And listen to him on Ukraine, forever wars, Russia, sound money & corporate captures of our regulatory system.
Also on the debt, the border & the situation the younger generations are in with home ownership & health.
The man has his finger on the pulse of all the most critical issues in our Nation.
I only disagree with him on one, and it's a big one- Climate Change.
But I disagree with Biden on EVERYTHING, and Trump brought us the Lockdowns & the killer "vaccine."
So I cannot vote for him. He is the reason my daughter has been GMOed. And set up for cancer, stroke, Autoimmunity & infertility.
His "mistake" is the greatest mistake the world has ever seen, imho.
Turning loose a genetic code that takes over and integrates into our DNA wrapped in Lipid Nano Particles that shed & spread it everywhere to all life, perhaps, is the worst thing Humanity has done yet. Or "demons" if you believe in them.
I listened to one wise Christian Preacher who read the descriptions of the Antichrist out of the Bible. "Boastful, proud, unrepentant." And, that he would fool many of the faithful. I think we need to consider it might be Trump. Especially if he brings peace to Israel I will be very afraid we have been fooled. I think we need to pray a lot for wisdom & discernment.
"Trump brought us the lockdowns and killer vaccine". That's utter nonsense. The individual STATES mandated lockdowns, or not. And the "vaccine" was already patented by the DoD and the deep state, Gates and Big Pharma already had plans to use it after their fake Covid PLANdemic.
You do understand, do you not, that America was attacked by the CIA/Global cabal in 2020, and it has resulted in mass casualties and the overthrow of our government.
We are at war currently, they are attempting to destroy America before Trump has a chance to stop them.
Sorry, no. Donald Trump, as President and Commander in Chief, was in charge of our military bases, and my understanding is they Lockdown Hard! Ditto the Federal Government. And instead of making sure every American had Zithromax, HCQ, Zinc & a pulse oxygen meter in their house, he locked down the nation & softened up the marks for the Jab.. His jab. The "Father of the Vax."
The wonderful technology he keeps bragging about that killed as many as 500,000 Americans. That possibly GMOed the Human Race.
That causes heart attacks in the finest athletes and 40 year old fathers, turbo cancer, infertility, horrible birth defects, Autoimmunity and 9 pages of diseases & conditions.
This is Donald Trump's legacy.
Either he was in on it, he was too stupid to figure out what was happening, or he was blackmailed into submission.
These are the only three possibilities.
RFKjr is the only one in the race who didn't attack Americans through the Sars-cov-2/Covid Con.
Trump might not be as brutal as the Biden administration, but he did all of it to us first. Set the ball on the tee and Biden whacked it.
Wow Katherine, I'm really impressed that you knew so much about the "VIRUS " at the time. You probably should have been advising president Trump during the pandemic. We wouldn't be where we are now.
Kennedy’s climate policies involve moving away from big agricultural farming and moving back to regenerative farming, which improves the soil and improves the air. He’s not about banning cars or gas, stoves, or airplanes. he says we need to use a little bit of everything as far as power sources, although he is not fond of nuclear energy, because it is the most expensive to produce, and it leaves us with that very nasty radioactive waste, which we have no Safe way of disposing. he also wants to hold corporations responsible for toxic waste spills like that horrible East Palestine train wreck, and the companies that dump poison into our waterways, etc. He wants to hold the companies who are the criminals responsible for paying, not the taxpayers!
RFKjr - is it climate change or the environment he really champions? I read his autobiography and I saw the environment as his ‘cause.’ They are not the same. If he goes climate change, is it because of how he treasures the environment? I wish I could ask him!
He is a wonderful environmentalist who has faced the most toxic industries aligned with government and succeeded at forcing compliance or accountability.
But he does still believe climate change is an existential threat. I don't believe that, or at least that CO2 is our big problem. Over electrifying our planet is much more dangerous, imo, & wind & solar are dirty in their own ways & unreliable too.
A total waste I believe and Bobby still thinks that they're good.
So it's the one place I personally really disagree with him.
But as others have said, it's unreasonable to think you will agree with anyone 100% of the time.
And maybe I'm wrong on this topic. It is complex and we don't know enough still to fully understand how our planet's climate swings function. I do believe that Valentina Zharkova may have proven solar cycles which control our cooling & warming periods very nicely. So there is that.
But on some many topics of critical importance Bobby & Shanahan are right on!
To clarify, RFK does not take an “anti-jab stance”. He never has, and I don’t think he ever will. Here is an article I wrote a few years back, which sheds light on that.
More recently, he has said he wants “safer vaccines”, and “more research”. Whose children is he suggesting for this research, whose pregnant wife, whose pre-teen, whose college student, and whose elderly parents? And on what is he basing his stance that humans need vaccines?
Note that he always inserts a caveat when making his vaccine statements, always leaving the door open for the continued use of vaccines, mandates, and government’s involvement in our personal healthcare decisions, for both ourselves and our children.
@Laura Hayes: Being “anti-jab” does not exclude all vaccine technology. He advocates safely protecting humans from unnecessary suffering.
His voice for those harmed by unscrupulous clinical behavior has been a thorn in the Big Butt of Big Pharma and the yupsters in organized criminal medicine-without whom this crime against humanity could not have been perpetrated.
During my primary care training in 1985, the pediatric immunization schedule fit on one side of a 3x5 card; the next year on a half sheet of paper; then double sided sheet.
And the incidence of autism exploded. He has given a voice to those who can’t speak up.
In my ER residency, I watched an illegal immigrant die a slow, agonizing-for us, not her as she was sedated- death of tetanus. Totally preventable had she had an immigration medical clearance examination.
Lighten up on RFK2. He’s doing good things. He’ll hopefully have a role in President Trump’s administration.
I'm not convinced that's true. I'm aware of at least one person having done or reviewed studies that "live-attenuated" vaccines DO have overall positive outcomes (versus "inactivated" vaccines which don't), which makes sense since it's basically just infecting you with a weaker version of the illness to develop immunity to the more serious (life-threatening) version.
And if we had good safety studies on vaccines, we might be able to predict which children would be damaged by them, and give parents true informed consent, and risk versus benefit. Just because you want good airbags and good brakes and cars does not make you anti-Car!
I didn’t get any shots… I didn’t trust them from the beginning… That small, quiet voice in the pit of my stomach said this was not a thing to do… Too fast too many people pushing… One day you’re out, eating and shopping and the next day you’ve got the stupid facemask gone… I don’t buy any of it. I don’t trust any of the alphabet agencies, and I don’t trust our government… And I will not be getting any shots!
I've admired RFK's anti-jab stance, but the rest of his policies have me as a hard "no". The VP pick pretty much secures that. I'm not really a fan of Trump's constant "the shots are YUGE!!!!" rhetoric as it shows a complete lack of understanding of his base, but the majority of his platform and past performance have me leaning that way.
I saw the blurbs about the Moderna combo shots on Twitter yesterday and ... hard pass. I'm pretty much out of the "get any shots" game unless there's some hard evidence that they're worthwhile. That may mean no missions work outside of the country, but I just can't trust the drug companies at this point. :(
Regarding Trump, he never publicly admits a mistake, that's just how he operates. We may see that as a character flaw, but for him it's part of a very successful system he has used over the course of his life.
Scott Adams explains how Trump uses "systems thinking" rather than reacting to every incident individually. He has patterns that he uses where he always reacts to specific types of events in the same, time-proven manner (such as how he attacks seemingly trivial figures that attacked him first). These often leave us shaking our head as we don't understand the reaction's logic in the specific incident. But that's because we don't understand his system.
I'm sure Trump admits he made a mistake to his kids when he does something in error, he's not evil. However he realizes that admitting an error or apologizing publicly is seen as an admission of guilt and is a weakness. This is particularly the case when his adversaries are acting in bad faith (which the left and Never Trump always are). He's smart and knows that you never admit being wrong to anyone acting in bad faith, as it will always be used against you. Apologies are reserved for those acting in good faith, of which there are virtually none in politics.
Once you understand this is how Trump operates, and it's a proven system and not just pigheadedness, his behavior makes a lot more sense. If he was out actively telling people to get more boosters or pushing mandates then I'd think about this much differently. But he isn't.
I think you nailed it, and it has surprised me that more people don't see him that way.
Thank you for sharing this. It seems spot-on IMO, from my own observations and from conversations with people I know who worked with him in the past. He's always thinking big picture. We also have to remember where he did a lot of his business: NY and NJ. IOW, he is pretty used to dealing with government overreach, unions, and of course, the mafia. Nothing would describe the current state of the US's bureaucratic machine better than to say it's a combination of government overreach, union grift, and mafia bullying. He knows how to work these people.
I have to laugh when people call Trump dumb. His style of speech is not "educated white collar professional," which is why people call him dumb. Basically, they don't like the way he talks, so they call him dumb. I see this trait of his as a plus, because frankly, it is mealy-mouthed educated white collar double-speak that got us into this mess in the first place. "Interconnected global trade relations" sounds a whole lot better to voters than saying: "we're going to take your jobs away from you and give them to people in other countries who will work for less and can work for less b/c their government doesn't yet cause their wages to be inflated by 100% or more with safety regulations." We need more straight talk. The media lies. Illegals are criminals. Etc.
As far as OWS/the clot shots: 1) he was the PR person for a business initiative. If someone has pics of him in a lab developing and testing the shots, please share. 2) He was lied to just like the rest of us. 3) He did not mandate anything, and he fought both masks and lockdowns. 4) He did what he thought was the right thing for his country in speaking for a program that delivered something nearly everyone was begging for.
We may not like it or agree with #4 above, but that was the case. The vast majority of people were begging for a "vaccine." Yes, that was dumb. No, they were not needed. Yes, people were fooled. Including people I know who are WAY more conservative than me. Doesn't matter.
Trump did his best to combat the fear porn by refusing to wear a mask, saying the virus wasn't that dangerous, calling for reopening, etc. But he lost b/c the entire information ecosystem, including current allies like Fox, X/Twitter, etc. were all in on the vaccines and all the "public health" measures at the start. Every time he said something rational (and true) he was called a murderer, with a literal death toll being shown on every news channel every minute of every day. So, maybe he's due a little grace considering he was the only accessible public figure trying to inject some reason and sanity.
Excellent point also that he brags about his role as PR person, but doesn't say people should go get more shots. That's a point I had missed and it's very telling.
Same here on people calling him dumb. Know-it-alls who have never accomplished anything in their lives, think a guy who won the presidency with no political experience, is worth $6B, lives in a mansion with gold-plated toilets, and is surrounded by beautiful women is dumb. Dumb but lucky I guess.
Everything else you said I completely agree with, you put it beautifully.
If you want to believe that Trump didn't know better because he believes the permanent state goons, well that's fine. You then have to reconcile the fact he got duped by the very people he claims he was going to take down. How do you think that is going to play out? And idiots like me knew not to trust the pandemic narrative and clot shot but the five dimensional chess player Trump couldn't figure it out? C’mon!
You should drop the TDS for a bit. As I've asked you before and you didn't answer: who's your better candidate? It's easy to throw rocks at everyone else, though, right?
Last time I checked, it's not a requirement for a citizen to vote and support the lesser evil candidate. The fact that so many here are ardent supporters of someone who was complicit with the greatest crime against humanity in the history of the world is mind boggling to me. You are the people who owe some explanations, not me.
There's nothing helpful about refusing to take a position and then throwing rocks at everyone who at least makes an attempt. The people who don't vote "cause" all of this mess just as much or more than the people who do.
The main point is - I don't agree with you that Trump was "complicit." By your standard, every politician and business leader in the world was more "complicit." Every medical professional who called for "vaccine" development, administered them, or suggested patients take them was more complicit. Every individual citizen who demanded a "vaccine" or encouraged someone they know to take one was more complicit. Which amounts to...the vast majority of humanity. So, roughly 5-6B people are more responsible for this than Trump.
Because Trump tried to stop the panic. No panic = no "vaccines." Trump was pretty much the ONLY public figure early-on trying to calm people down, which would have helped the world avoid the "vaccines" altogether if they had listened to him. The advisors he chose advocated against panic, against lockdowns, and against masks. Taking their advice would have meant the "vaccines" may never have been developed, or at the least would have resulted in less uptake. Of course, they were all de-platformed and fired...
As always, the deep state used narrative control to drive popular demand to get its way.
Excuses. You can't excuse the greatest crime against humanity. He was complicit because he had to have known they were dangerous. That makes him one of the worst criminals of all time. If he didn't know, he's an utter fool and deserves to be nowhere near the WH. Catherine Austin Fits said if she were president she would have to taken a bullet to the head over this issue, and so would I.
LOL. Like I said - and demonstrated - he was not complicit. Pretty much everyone else on the planet was, as much or more than him. And no, he did not "have to know" and having not known doesn't make one an "utter fool." Those are just self-aggrandizing and obviously false statements.
Continue to do TDS if you like, but please don't reply to my comments. I don't need the waste of my time in explaining my logic and getting logically poor, inflammatory responses.
Orwell is rolling... Goodbye
"Orwell"...more self-aggrandizement. Goodbye, take care. (BTW, nothing shows your real intentions better than spending Easter Sunday trying to undermine the (R) nominee by attacking comments from a 3-day old post. LOL!)
I think what some of us are concerned with, is not that he should have known better back then, but NOW we have evidence that the shots are dangerous and deadly, and that they must be stopped immediately. Otherwise new ones will keep coming at us and our brainwashed fellow citizens will still line up for them. That would include my whole family. I don’t blame him for the development of the shots at all. I just want him to protect us from them now. I would love it if he told his loyal followers to avoid the jab.
My take is that it's not really his job to do this. I think a big lesson - maybe the biggest lesson - of the Trump era is a reminder that we need to make our own decisions and not rely on government or "leaders" or "superheroes" for information or guidance. It was always true, it's just that many of us forgot. Trump helped remind us what liars they all are. All of them.
That said, I don't think that it would make a difference. I can tell you of the dozens of people I know across my extended family who are Trump supporters not one of them would or would not take the shot b/c of what Trump said. It hasn't affected their decisions to date. It's just not a consideration. They are adults making their own (sometimes poor) decisions.
And really, politically, let's be real...if he said 'they're poison, stop taking them,' what is that going to do for the entrenched PTB that own the media, the schools, the medical system? It's going to drive more lefties their way for shots. And they'll use it as ammo again to get their base excited. Like they did when he said masks don't work, and we ended up with mask mandates. Or when he said covid had an IFR below 1%, and they screeched it could be as high as 5%. Or, when he said reopen things, and they called him a murderer.
I think he's threading the needle just fine. Given what he's survived so far, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He might just be better at politics than all of us here.
RU, you make logical sense and do not employ emotions/feeling to make your point(s). TY.
I voted for Trump twice and voted for him in the primary this year. Yet as much as I was glad he was our president, and want him to become #47, I did NOT take the shot. That is/was MY personal decision and I do not follow blindly what anyone says, no matter who they are.
You would love it if he lost the election or got ‘removed’. You do not know in what way he might act to achieve the greatest good. You don’t care.
Thank you for that in-depth explanation because it has really bothered me. But I see the logic in it and deep down. I think that was kind of what I was thinking, but didn’t know how to verbalize it.
I agree. But why can’t he just not say anything about the vax? “If you can’t say anything nice, then just don’t say anything at all.”
Yeah, that does drive me nuts too.
The enemy (whatever you want to call them) played Trump's ego perfectly to roll him on Convid and the "vaccine." While this is infuriating, and self-inflicted, the second Trump backtracks on either, he will be absolutely crushed. After 4 years of ignoring and censoring the impact of lockdowns, and millions of vaxx injuries and deaths, the corrupt to the core media and social media platforms will pivot instantly to turn over every rock looking for anybody injured/killed by "Trump's vaxx" or harmed by "Trump's lockdown." They'll throw ANY person, institution, or company under the bus while doing so. Splitting hairs over who implemented lockdowns or mandated vaccines won't matter. It's a trap the enemy is waiting to spring.
bingo
Thank you for this, Jeff. On the rare occasion that I "argue Trump" with anyone, I also remind them that his errors or mistakes were not intended to harm us, the citizens. Unlike the Dems, whose entire EXISTENCE is devoted to harming us.
A depopulation campaign Trump was complicit in wasn't intended to harm?? How exactly can you come to this conclusion?
Occam’s razor: Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD can never never never never admit that they are wrong or made a mistake, or even that they were fooled by others. It is not possible. In spite of this, I would much rather see him win over Biden. I wouldn’t write off Kennedy that quickly. I know work with plenty of disenchanted Republicans that seem undaunted by his VP pick. They admire her poverty to riches and success story. There are also more independents in the US than Democrats or Republicans. People who were all in for Trump never would’ve voted for Kennedy anyway. I also understand the gratitude of many Trump voters who credit him with picking the judges to overturn Roe v Wade. They are not wrong there. I bailed on the Dems (who now horrify me) and will be voting for a lot of Republicans. I constantly remind people that the Democrats were the pro slavery party before the Civil War, and that today it seems like the Republicans are the ones trying to defend the constitution However, I am no longer tribal. I feel the divisiveness in this country is toxic and killing us. And while we are drowning in this poison of animosity between the two parties, the globalists are around our next like a boa constrictor, and pouring gasoline on the fire. They love it when we fight each other. And fighting each other is even sometimes a form of addiction. That’s one of many reasons why I like Kennedy. I think that he is the only one who can protect us from the carnivorous agency capture that is devouring our health, safety and money. If he can’t win, I hope Trump does. Please understand that by saying this, my entire family would shoot me! Give me some credit here even though I probably just upset some of you. I respect all of you. We are all Americans, and I believe we are all fighting to overcome evil in our different ways.
And this has benefited him in the world but it's a spiritual flaw. 😞
I'm not so sure I agree with that. The Bible does not tell us we must extend the same courtesies to those acting in bad faith that we do to those in good faith. Forgiveness follows repentance (a good faith act of sorrow) it's not automatic. Standing up to evil (a judgmental act that the Bible commands) is by it's very definition hostile and confrontational.
It's a complicated question that I don't fully comprehend. But going along with people acting in bad faith to make them feel better is why we now have some churches waving trans flags. Recall also that absurd Superbowl commercial which had Christ washing the feet of proud, unrepentant sinners. That's not the Jesus of the Bible.
Clearly there's a point where Christians are compelled to say enough. I'd say that refusing to apologize to people acting in deliberate, outright, bad faith falls in line with that.
Just finished Proverbs an hour or so ago. So many of these wise sayings point to just that: how to deal with the wicked/evil. And how to deal with the poor/just. Differently.
Many people took the shot because they trusted him.
Those people were not acting in bad faith.
Many of those people are now dead.
So what are we going to do Tom, hang him in the public square? This isn't a rhetorical question.
He promoted the shot when he believed in it, and he took the shot himself if you remember. So why it may have been foolish, it wasn't disingenuous or hypocritical. And when the did the President of the US become people's personal physician? I have tremendous admiration for President Trump but didn't take the shot because I think for myself.
My former pastor (now retired) who is by just about every standard a great, sincere man also urged the congregation to take the shot. He did this because he had buried almost two dozen people from Covid deaths (it's a big church) and believed Public Health officials were acting in good faith. Of course he was wrong and I didn't follow his recommendation again because I think for myself.
I don't know what to tell you except that people are responsible for their own actions. And if anyone allows an experimental injection to be pumped into them because their president, pastor, or some other person told them too then they are fools. We all make mistakes and hopefully people learn from them but blaming Trump for people taking the shot is beyond absurd. Trump took the shot and recommended others also do it. They then made the choice, not Trump.
Yet people insist he do the sackcloth and ashes routine on this as if every single vax recipient didn't say "yes" and acquiesce. These purity tests are going to destroy our last hope to stop the Bolsheviks from taking over the country. I hope it's just foolish thinking but I really am starting to wonder exactly what is going through people's heads.
Excellent response. I too think for myself and did not get the jab, even though I voted for Trump and will again. Trump tried to offer suggestions and was mocked unmercifully. FDA even had to finally be forced to remove their You’re Not a Horse or a Cow posts. The agencies with ties to Big Pharma fought Trump at every suggestion
Personally I think many churches advocated the jab and closures so as not to lose their tax exempt status. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what I think
no it was simply because they coward in the face of social tyranny.
they forgot 2 Timothy 1:7
shame on them
You’re on a roll today, Jeff C!
So much common and Godly sense.
There's a big difference between hanging someone in a public square and expecting accountability from someone who had it under their purview to require that an "Emergency Authorization" not be implemented under false pretenses. I seem to remember him also promoting hydroxychloroquine, which would preclude the use of an EUA.
If he was unable to say "the buck stops here" then, he will be unable to say it in the future.
"He took the shot when he believed in it." I can't attest to what anyone put in their arm, especially if they did it to further a narrative.
It's up to you, where you put your faith.
If Trump truly did take the shot, it speaks to his intelligence…
so now they're voting Democrat....:)
Well, if I remember correctly he also said he never asked God for forgiveness, So well, quite spiritually flawed.
EXACTLY
Was it The Great Santini? "Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness."
He unleashed the clot shots. That is the definition of evil.
Your one dimensional thinking is the reason we will likely lose this country to people who actively hate us and are satanic. You demand purity to your specific belief set which no one can attain.
Yes, wanting people who are responsible for the biggest crime against humanity in world history to be held accountable is dangerous. Wow. You are the dangerous one if you are unable to see how Orwellian this is.
LOL. Give me a break.
I agree. Trump promoted pure evil by promoting the toxxine.
He either knew they were dangerous and worse than ineffective, or he should have known.
My bet is that Trump knew that Pfauci's virus and the vaxx were a DoD/Pfizer operation all along:
https://patrick.net/post/1378399/2023-01-27-it-was-the-dod-all-along-trump-knew
The shots were released by the Defense Dept. and the National Security agencies. The mRNA platform had been around since at least 2005 and everyone in the know was dying to find a reason to use them. Here's the best explanation I've seen yet: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/why-was-mrna-the-government-vaccine
Agree with everything you wrote, Jeff
Excellent analysis Jeff C. 👏
Great comment Jeff C ! Thank you!
Finally. A fair assessment. A non-hate filled examination.
Interesting. Thank you.
RFK did a great service with his book, The Real Anthony Fauci. I learned soooo much reading it. He gets it re: government corruption (namely such as CIA).
Beyond these I’m not on the page with him.
Grateful if he’s interfering with Biden’s chances. But that’s it.
Read his Wuhan book too. And listen to him on Ukraine, forever wars, Russia, sound money & corporate captures of our regulatory system.
Also on the debt, the border & the situation the younger generations are in with home ownership & health.
The man has his finger on the pulse of all the most critical issues in our Nation.
I only disagree with him on one, and it's a big one- Climate Change.
But I disagree with Biden on EVERYTHING, and Trump brought us the Lockdowns & the killer "vaccine."
So I cannot vote for him. He is the reason my daughter has been GMOed. And set up for cancer, stroke, Autoimmunity & infertility.
His "mistake" is the greatest mistake the world has ever seen, imho.
Turning loose a genetic code that takes over and integrates into our DNA wrapped in Lipid Nano Particles that shed & spread it everywhere to all life, perhaps, is the worst thing Humanity has done yet. Or "demons" if you believe in them.
I listened to one wise Christian Preacher who read the descriptions of the Antichrist out of the Bible. "Boastful, proud, unrepentant." And, that he would fool many of the faithful. I think we need to consider it might be Trump. Especially if he brings peace to Israel I will be very afraid we have been fooled. I think we need to pray a lot for wisdom & discernment.
"Trump brought us the lockdowns and killer vaccine". That's utter nonsense. The individual STATES mandated lockdowns, or not. And the "vaccine" was already patented by the DoD and the deep state, Gates and Big Pharma already had plans to use it after their fake Covid PLANdemic.
You do understand, do you not, that America was attacked by the CIA/Global cabal in 2020, and it has resulted in mass casualties and the overthrow of our government.
We are at war currently, they are attempting to destroy America before Trump has a chance to stop them.
Sorry, no. Donald Trump, as President and Commander in Chief, was in charge of our military bases, and my understanding is they Lockdown Hard! Ditto the Federal Government. And instead of making sure every American had Zithromax, HCQ, Zinc & a pulse oxygen meter in their house, he locked down the nation & softened up the marks for the Jab.. His jab. The "Father of the Vax."
The wonderful technology he keeps bragging about that killed as many as 500,000 Americans. That possibly GMOed the Human Race.
That causes heart attacks in the finest athletes and 40 year old fathers, turbo cancer, infertility, horrible birth defects, Autoimmunity and 9 pages of diseases & conditions.
This is Donald Trump's legacy.
Either he was in on it, he was too stupid to figure out what was happening, or he was blackmailed into submission.
These are the only three possibilities.
RFKjr is the only one in the race who didn't attack Americans through the Sars-cov-2/Covid Con.
Trump might not be as brutal as the Biden administration, but he did all of it to us first. Set the ball on the tee and Biden whacked it.
Wow Katherine, I'm really impressed that you knew so much about the "VIRUS " at the time. You probably should have been advising president Trump during the pandemic. We wouldn't be where we are now.
You are ignoring the glaring fact that Trump was complicit with the DoDs depopulation campaign. A bit of a blemish on his record…
2A as well. He's squishy.
2A is our only bulwark if 1A fails.
He doesn't get that.
Yes, another weak spot. At the end of the day, we aren't going to agree fully with any politician.....
Agree and I'm willing to compromise...but no way on 1A or 2A.
Those old white guys that founded this country knew what they were doing.
Let's keep it that way.
Yup!!
He’s so ‘squishy’ he has a concealed permit.
In Manhattan.
New Yawk.
Check your facts.
Ask the NRA.
Nah all you have to do is listen to his words.
Since we're talking about facts. His position on 2A is very similar to people who believe "hate speech" is not covered by 1A.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
If you need a lesson in facts from history I'm happy to help you.
The Founders got it right. 1A is sloppy. But the alternative is using 2A...which is sloppy in pools of maroon below.
Pick it; sloppy or sanguineous.
Be sagacious and don't allow 3 meals and 4 manacles to get in the way of good old fashion horse sense.
Kennedy’s climate policies involve moving away from big agricultural farming and moving back to regenerative farming, which improves the soil and improves the air. He’s not about banning cars or gas, stoves, or airplanes. he says we need to use a little bit of everything as far as power sources, although he is not fond of nuclear energy, because it is the most expensive to produce, and it leaves us with that very nasty radioactive waste, which we have no Safe way of disposing. he also wants to hold corporations responsible for toxic waste spills like that horrible East Palestine train wreck, and the companies that dump poison into our waterways, etc. He wants to hold the companies who are the criminals responsible for paying, not the taxpayers!
RFKjr - is it climate change or the environment he really champions? I read his autobiography and I saw the environment as his ‘cause.’ They are not the same. If he goes climate change, is it because of how he treasures the environment? I wish I could ask him!
He is a wonderful environmentalist who has faced the most toxic industries aligned with government and succeeded at forcing compliance or accountability.
But he does still believe climate change is an existential threat. I don't believe that, or at least that CO2 is our big problem. Over electrifying our planet is much more dangerous, imo, & wind & solar are dirty in their own ways & unreliable too.
A total waste I believe and Bobby still thinks that they're good.
So it's the one place I personally really disagree with him.
But as others have said, it's unreasonable to think you will agree with anyone 100% of the time.
And maybe I'm wrong on this topic. It is complex and we don't know enough still to fully understand how our planet's climate swings function. I do believe that Valentina Zharkova may have proven solar cycles which control our cooling & warming periods very nicely. So there is that.
But on some many topics of critical importance Bobby & Shanahan are right on!
He interviewed Dane Wigington regarding geoengineering and climate change came up. Interesting: https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/us-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/
His Wuhan book was amazing!
To clarify, RFK does not take an “anti-jab stance”. He never has, and I don’t think he ever will. Here is an article I wrote a few years back, which sheds light on that.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2015/11/i-respectfully-ask-mr-kennedy-and-all-americans-these-questions.html
More recently, he has said he wants “safer vaccines”, and “more research”. Whose children is he suggesting for this research, whose pregnant wife, whose pre-teen, whose college student, and whose elderly parents? And on what is he basing his stance that humans need vaccines?
Note that he always inserts a caveat when making his vaccine statements, always leaving the door open for the continued use of vaccines, mandates, and government’s involvement in our personal healthcare decisions, for both ourselves and our children.
@Laura Hayes: Being “anti-jab” does not exclude all vaccine technology. He advocates safely protecting humans from unnecessary suffering.
His voice for those harmed by unscrupulous clinical behavior has been a thorn in the Big Butt of Big Pharma and the yupsters in organized criminal medicine-without whom this crime against humanity could not have been perpetrated.
During my primary care training in 1985, the pediatric immunization schedule fit on one side of a 3x5 card; the next year on a half sheet of paper; then double sided sheet.
And the incidence of autism exploded. He has given a voice to those who can’t speak up.
In my ER residency, I watched an illegal immigrant die a slow, agonizing-for us, not her as she was sedated- death of tetanus. Totally preventable had she had an immigration medical clearance examination.
Lighten up on RFK2. He’s doing good things. He’ll hopefully have a role in President Trump’s administration.
Vaccines are harmful, always. There is no benefit from vaccines, ever. Childhood vaccines are NEVER appropriate.
The vaccine agenda is genocide.
I'm not convinced that's true. I'm aware of at least one person having done or reviewed studies that "live-attenuated" vaccines DO have overall positive outcomes (versus "inactivated" vaccines which don't), which makes sense since it's basically just infecting you with a weaker version of the illness to develop immunity to the more serious (life-threatening) version.
And if we had good safety studies on vaccines, we might be able to predict which children would be damaged by them, and give parents true informed consent, and risk versus benefit. Just because you want good airbags and good brakes and cars does not make you anti-Car!
At least he isn't claiming mRNA tech is going to cure cancer....and that the clot shot saved many millions of lives.
Trump's vax pride makes me long COVID sick! 🤮
For you NCIS fans, Gibbs rule 6 "never say you're sorry"
I didn’t get any shots… I didn’t trust them from the beginning… That small, quiet voice in the pit of my stomach said this was not a thing to do… Too fast too many people pushing… One day you’re out, eating and shopping and the next day you’ve got the stupid facemask gone… I don’t buy any of it. I don’t trust any of the alphabet agencies, and I don’t trust our government… And I will not be getting any shots!