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Jon Swenson's avatar

ā€œFirst they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.ā€

Martin Niemoeller

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FourWinds's avatar

If the scamdemic has shown us nothing else, it has shown the number of people willing to stand their ground. Some of us stood at the beginning. More came along shortly after, and many more came even later. Some just started standing up. Better late than never.

And for "standing up", I'm not just talking about the virus nonsense. It's also willingness to stand against ideologies and narratives that a person finds repulsive or just flat out wrong, such as gender mutilation of children, grooming, the push towards normalizing pedophilia, a corrupt government on all levels - state, local and federal, everything being "racist" or "homophobic" when it's really not, attacks on religion and spirituality, woke nonsense, teachers who groom, corrupt and bought school boards, colleges that promote socialism/communism, morons believing that guns and not people kill, illegals everywhere and open borders, and calling out those who lie over and over and over - the media, the alphabet agencies of the government, and those who SHOULD be decent human beings but instead lie for their own gain.

I refuse to shut my mouth. That may end my life sooner than nature would have intended, but I won't have one single shred of respect for myself if I don't speak up. The more of us that speak, the better. "They" would have you believe the majority in this country are supporting their agenda. They were and are wrong.

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NAB's avatar

Finally read the Rod Dreher book, "Live Not by Lies." It was convicting. I am done living by lies. Let's go.

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Intents Of The heart's avatar

I encourage everyone to invite likeminded people over and start a book club reading Live Not By Lies. Then decide what skills and resources each of you possesses and begin building social capital. From there read biographies of others who have been in difficult times and you'll be encouraged by how they survived, not to mention gain the mental and spiritual strength of one day you find yourself in prison what a travesty those Jan 6th protesters sitting in solitary for nothing!

If it could happen to them, it can happen to any of us. Watch this RESTRICT Act carefully. It may be from that they are distracting us.

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Raptor's avatar

Yes, the Restrict Act proposed by Mark Warner not Josh Hawley. Reason Mag published an article on it in relation to VPN's, but it is worth a read so you can get a flavor of the scarily boundless reach it would have and how they would happily use it against the people they actually hate... and it ain't the Chinese.

https://reason.com/2023/03/29/could-the-restrict-act-criminalize-the-use-of-vpns/

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Daily Growler's avatar

Suggestions for how to find "likeminded people" after we've tried talking with friends and acquaintances and found little willingness to peek outside official narratives?

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Raptor's avatar

Sometimes you have to lay out your own thoughts with someone you suspect may share your views (like if you hear them say masks have been and always will be BS). Or just chat and share pieces and see how close you are. You needn't agree 100% (like here - talking to you Horsey! - still like you - you foolish lover of Ukraine government). My husband inserts facts when people are talking nonsense (actual provable facts, not sciency religious cuts stuff) and eventually someone decided to talk to him (about not taking another jab). The other guy gave my husband a book to read and husband passed one to him and passed the other guy's book to another friend... soon enough a quasi book club began and the men talk about the books and other stuff while resting between or after games. Other men listen. Nice.

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redpilled69's avatar

Or not even share pieces... be neutral in telling a story that happened to someone you. For example, someone you know that went to the hospital with myocarditis 3 days after the jab... or someone you talked to that said they think Remdesiver killed their dad in the hospital. Watch the reaction. I've begun a network of people who believe in medical freedom. When you meet one, ask if they know anyone else that thinks that way.

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Raptor's avatar

My MIL died after getting Remdesivir. The only problem with relating stories of medical problems including death is that people get their backs up about it. Like you are severely insulting truth. When it is someone you loved that died, it can devolve pretty quickly. Trust me. But if you can talk plainly about facts and about a case you know well where the person was injured or died, it is easier to not lose it. I talk about my friend's daughter who miscarried after getting jabbed then I talk about a few tidbits I've picked up from Igor Chudov and Bad Cattitude and how we have never given an experimental drug or vaccine to pregnant and lactating women before. Why now. That is during conversations with vaccine defenders. Regular people I want to get to know - I keep it general - not just about jabs. Feel them out.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I checked this out - I see it is based in FL--so I guess that's "out". We have a local freedom group in PA that now has chapters in 26 or our counties (there are 67 counties in total--so we have a lot of work to do). I appreciate the focus and they do encourage action as well as prayer and protesting--but nothing fanatical. All according to Scripture. Our Lancaster chapter director as been away in the UK with her hubby--hope she will be returning soon--we miss her fiery focus - LOL!

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

They're all around. Just ask your Higher Power to link them up with you, be willing to speak your mind to everyone you meet, and you'll find them! Most of us have given up on family and even long-standing friends.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I have this same problem. I know no one around me who is really like minded. Still trying to find friends for my kid.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

That would be tougher, to find friends for your kid. But for you, is there no visible local protest group, that you could enjoin in its projects? Most of us have become activists in one way or another.

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Sharri Godard's avatar

I don't know where you live but my husband and I along with several friends joined CCDF (County Citizens Defending Freedom) in Jacksonville, FL. They are a nationally formed group that has chapters in several state/counties. You could check their website to see if there is one where you live. CCDF's philosophy is to start making changes in your local government and schoolboard and they give action orders to start making changes.

https://ccdfusa.com/

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I don’t know where you live, but through other ā€˜freedom loving’ groups you might find some new ā€˜friends’ that think like you do. I live in So CA and we have a great group of people we have put together. I also found a whole new set of friends on some groups I found on Facebook. You don’t need a lot, start small and grow!

Children’s Health Defense has a number of State Chapters that you can join. If that’s not your ā€˜cup of tea’ you can use the ā€˜comments’ here on Substack to put it out there that you are looking for some like minded people to meet up with in your area.

I ā€˜met’ someone on another Substack post this past summer. I could tell there was ā€˜something’ there, so shared my email for 5 minutes then deleted it, and he responded. We are now ā€˜dating’, though he lives in Idaho and I live in SoCA and it’s not exactly as they say ā€˜geographically desirable’, we’ve made it work out over the past 10 months! And he’s not a criminal or a serial psycho! Just an unvaxxed, age appropriate, freedom loving, person...like me. (I ā€˜checked’ him out before we met in person, last August.)

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Your long distance love must be very, very special - I applaud your daring spirit.

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Raptor's avatar

I was telling my husband about your comment. He said while he was standing in the UPS store he struck up a convo with a man new to the area from CA. By the time they got to the counter they had discussed masking, ivermectin, brave doctors, guns, freedom, the deluded and were bolstered to know each other are out there. That guy was from SoCal. The awake exist everywhere. Get out there and find your peoples Growler! IRL people - you have your onliners. : )

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Patrish's avatar

Join https://corac.co/

CORAC

It is a National group committed to rebuilding our nation through a Christian perspective. Open to all who share the core belief in Faith, Family, Freedom.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I know--I have only ONE FRIEND who thinks as I do - my family and most other acquaintances and friends think "this is just the way things roll"--they don't really understand WHAT IS AT STAKE!

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I’m so grateful because none of my immediate family members; a brother, his wife, their two adult daughters and their husbands, their two baby daughters, my twin brother and our Mom (who passed away in 2021) got any of The Jabs. Neither did my ā€˜partner’ nor any of his adult children and their kids! So I have been fortunate to have a large group of family that didn’t get the Jabs. Also I have large group of 20 plus medical/personal freedom ā€˜friends’, that we meet every month and none of them got the Jabs. I know I am an anomaly compared to most people.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

SO HAPPY for you - and YES...your situation is truly unique in today's "brainwashed" world. STAY FREE AND PUSH BACK, Frontera.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Attend some GOP events, talk to people there. Our county has an election integrity speaker coming to town and we invited the two adjoining counties to join us. We had movie nights Fridays during the winter and showed documentaries about current issues. We put together an Options for Education Symposium and book fair that is coming up for parents who are looking for school alternatives. We hosted a 6-week Biblical Citizenship class, and were successful in getting two churches to do the same.

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Raptor's avatar

Gettin' it DONE Kathy! How great is your town's conservatives and your Christian church! Lucky ducky.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

I'm surrounded by people like that. It's lonely existence but worth it.

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Raptor's avatar

I am too and I live in a relatively Conservative area. But they love them some jabs so... I have been sent to the forest... kicked outside the wall.

Who could not love a person named Leskunque? It would be impossible not to smile. I did.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

I can be your Leskunque 2 . Same experience with vaccination fascination.

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Karmy's avatar

Check out CORAC.co. An international grassroots organization that stands for Faith, Family and Freedom. https://corac.co/

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

WOW--what a WONDERFUL resource - I am checking out their Sustainable Living section. MANY THANKS, Karmy!!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

A regional approach to connecting and prep, I love it. I was looking at one Region's Communication setup using Signal. I see it is of Catholic perspective, how great is that.

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Karmy's avatar

There are regional and national groups on Signal for Health & Wellness, Sustainable Living, Communications and Prayer too. I have learned so much from so many people it is an amazing resource.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

That's great. I'm interested in the Communications. Can a person just search for a group and join? I assumed they'd be private.

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Karmy's avatar

You have to be a member of CORAC to receive an invitation to join the group. It's free, what do you have to lose?

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

It WILL happen to each of us. The time for changing minds is long passed. This is about SURVIVAL now. Will we not, finally, stand and fight to preserve Liberty for future generations?

ā€œThe roots of the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the BLOOD of Patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure.ā€

The tyrants are in control of every root and branch of every institution and have weaponized them against the Freedom of the People. And are succeeding in their quest to subjugate the planet.

ā€œAnd how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.ā€

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RunningLogic's avatar

ā€œWe didn’t love freedom enoughā€¦ā€

This. And our Founding Fathers, together with the ā€œregularā€ people who supported their vision and their cause, truly did.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Rod Dreher is a great writer and one of the reasons I still clung to my American Conservative subscription although its total readership now is probably about 5,000 people. It was a shame Dreher left TAC early this month.

Live Not By Lies was one of the first books I read in my dealing with dystopia quest, followed by Glenn Greenwald's No Place to Hide, Matt Taibbi's Hate, Inc., along with Camus, Orwell, Huxley and writers in that vein. I highly recommend it.

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Natalie's avatar

Dreher's book The Benedict Option is also good. After reading it, I realized my family had done most of the things he recommended. It's not about running away and hiding; it's about being in the world but not of the world.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

Dreher's book, How Dante Can Save Your Life, is also good.

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NAB's avatar

Next on my list!

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Natalie's avatar

Rod Dreher put together a study guide for Live Not By Lies. You can probably find it online.

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NAB's avatar

Oh, good to know. Thanks for this.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

That's such a good idea! Or even fiction. I just finished The Revolution of Marina M. which is, admittedly, ChickLit on one level, but literary on another, and as one identifies with the young protagonist in Russia, during the Revolution, who has such youthful idealism, one experiences what she learns about revolution, human behavior, idealism, and how she survives, while learning the history of the Russian Revolution.(It has some pretty erotic episodes, should anyone want to avoid that) Since the first hominins began grunting and singing and drawing with sticks in the sands of the savannah, we have told stories. Neil Oliver is also great on this, going back and finding patterns in history which our ancestors survived. He got tarred idiotically with one of their now utterly repetitive and boring smears as "anti-semitic," but then, brilliantly, he interviewed the Holocaust survivor who made the film "Never Again is Now Global" which can be seen at Children's Health Defense.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

"We don't live by LIES" was our response when we would get harassed to put on a face diaper. Excellent book, thanks for mentioning!

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Raptor's avatar

Thank you for the book recommendation. I just bought it. We have a small book club of sorts in our neighborhood (we are all Christians). We don't get together, but we read something and pass it along and later informally discuss it.

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NAB's avatar

Raptor, I found the book very easy to read, yet filled with compelling stories of dissidents who lived under totalitarian regimes and what they did to preserve Truth. It is time very well-spent and not only convicts the reader, but also offers actual ways of living in these times.

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Raptor's avatar

I was telling my husband just now about the book and it called to mind the situation Bonhoeffer in then Germany. He is worth getting to know. He fits in well here in this discussion. If you are interested one book he wrote is The Cost of Discipleship. You needn't be a Christian to appreciate it.

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Natalie's avatar

That's an excellent book! Bonhoeffer, a Lutheran pastor, was a martyr--executed by the Nazis just before the prison camp was liberated.

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Raptor's avatar

And was one of the few that resisted the Nazification of his church. He protected his flock as well as he could under extreme pressure. 3 years ago plenty of Christians were huffing that that sort of thing wouldn't happen today.

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Natalie's avatar

Eric Metaxas just wrote a book about this: Letter to the American Church. Well worth reading as so many Christians nowadays are passive as our country is destroyed. There's an amazing story about a congregation that worshipped next to railroad tracks, and when the train cars passed by with Jews and prisoners screaming, the worshippers would just sing louder to drown out the screams. Chilling!

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NAB's avatar

Added to my list!

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Jon Swenson's avatar

The Emperor's New Clothes story has been playing out for the past several years.

Trump was one of the children who said the emperor was naked.

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Castelletto's avatar

Just one more tidbit to add to all this: The Christian school that monster shot up last week (and who deliberately hunted down the pastor's daughter, according to those who watched the body cam video) is Presbyterian. Trump was confirmed Presbyterian as a child.

Don't forget that there is a level to this war above the political.

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AngelaK's avatar

Daily Mail reported that the trans killer was in one on one therapy with the Pastor and set out to kill the pastor but killed the Pastor's precious child instead.

Rather than look for political underlying motives to this, I personally believe with firm convislction that this was a command from a demon. These killers all engage in dark and demonic material online, and demonic voices are real to those who entertain their underworld.

It is a common thread on all their online activity. Every time reported by Daily Mail but not MSM. Demonic possession is real. Read the autobiography of Son of Sam, the mass killer of the 1970s. He engaged in it all. He found the light, Christ, in prison.

Lord have mercy on us and the whole world. Lord have mercy and grant strength to the grieving. āœļø šŸ™ We live in dark times.

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FourWinds's avatar

Although I don't know whether possession is a real thing, I certainly am open to the possibility. That being said, that monster that killed those people is 100% responsible for their murders - it does not matter who told her to do what. I'm not sure about this and apologies if I have it wrong, but I believe there was something in the Bible about resist the devil and he will flee from you. If so, she had a choice to resist.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I don’t think the one saying it was a command from demon was also saying she is not responsible. Just that its the origins. What prompted it. Least thats my view.

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Castelletto's avatar

What you say is true, to an extent, but the experts in demonology say that it is sometimes the case that people inadvertently open themselves up to possession and are quite innocent of the process. Robbie Mannheim, the actual boy upon whom the novel, The Exorcist, is based, apparently fell into possession because a beloved aunt got him involved with the Oujia board, and he tried to communicate with her after she died. That case is famous and written up extensively.

So, in this case, we have to consider the possibility that this woman was enticed into transgenderism by her misanthropy, the culture around her and, possibly, her leftist mother, after which it would have been a smooth slide to be opened up by demonic material and/or drugs, which are almost always involved in these kinds of tragedies. That would make her a victim herself in many ways, even though the initial cooperation with evil was a matter of her free will. The Devil has many things he can do to capture souls.

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FourWinds's avatar

It's possible. I'll be honest, though, I just can't look at her as any type of victim no matter what she went through. (I'm not suggesting you are defending her in any way.) I want people held responsible for their actions and make zero excuses for cold blooded murder. Sorry, this whole situation makes my blood boil.

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AngelaK's avatar

šŸ’Æ! I helieve her mother was a devout Christian. 😢

Most of the killers since Columbine have computers which show their involvement in occultic and satanic or demonic sites.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Simply, we have to leave it to God to sort that out.

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SusanMc's avatar

She definitely had a choice; we all do. But she put herself in satan’s territory (by music, books, associations, etc.) Once she did that I do believe she could’ve been listening to the prompts of satan. Demons are real; those who deny that fact delight him & his minions. Neither should be obsessed about them bc that elevates more than they should be.

Genuine Christians can’t be possessed by satan, but they can be oppressed by him.

I know devote Christians who have confronted demons in people & cast them out. Don’t overrate or underrate them.

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Politico Phil's avatar

No, any influence, demonic or otherwise, is NOT a defense.

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SusanMc's avatar

I read that too, but the source came forward & said he was mistaken. That preacher was not the counselor for this person. Someone else was

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CStone's avatar

I made a comment to someone yesterday that the pastor’s little girl was hunted down deliberately. I had no idea that the body cam of this demonic entity actually showed that fact. But I knew, in my knowing place, that she was the actual target.

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Castelletto's avatar

Apparently she was one of several.

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SusanMc's avatar

I was raised in a Presbyterian church; am not worried about Trump & his faith. I do think he’s still a baby Christian.

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Dianne Denson's avatar

Absolutely

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Northern Gardener's avatar

Speak up for morality and The Truth,ļæ¼ for the ideals and God-given freedoms of all people possessing fundamental rights including liberty, free speech, freedom of religion, due process of law, and freedom of assembly, our Judeo-Christian values, for without them we are sunk. "Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer."

-Romans 12:12

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Raptor's avatar

I keep that verse on my fridge. Love.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Thank you. I really needed this dose of positivity today. Thank you

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

If we fail to STAND STRONG for our personal/medical freedoms, we will FALL for anything the evil potentates throw our way. PRAY FOR MERCY FROM OUR CREATOR GOD AND STAND STRONG.

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Jay Horton's avatar

"It's also willingness to stand against ideologies and narratives that a person finds repulsive or just flat out wrong" -that where you find out just what you are made of.

Later Jay

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Barbls's avatar

Meme I saw:

First, they came after the communists and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then, they came after the satanists and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a satanist.

Suddenly, things were much better so they stopped coming after people.

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SusanMc's avatar

Pastor Martin Niemƶller:

First they came for the Communists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews

And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me

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Barbls's avatar

I hope the folks on this site haven't lost a sense of humor.

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Jon Swenson's avatar

Meme's are not real.

Socialists are.

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KarenQ's avatar

Memes spark ideas and the desire for further education thereby waking the Normies. Memes are very useful.ļæ¼ And the left can’t Meme.

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Raptor's avatar

The satanists. Haha. Next they will say" they came after the pedophiles". Going after evil is not something to include as a warning AGAINST evil and its encroachment.

Not dissing you at all, just struck me as sort of funny. I do know the original quote and agree with its sentiment.

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Elaine Elias's avatar

Yes. This says it all. We must speak up and speak out about injustice because injustice will not go away on its own.Excellent song too.

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daiva's avatar

šŸ—Ø If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And being for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? ~~Hillel the Elder [at the junction of eras, BC and AD]

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I’m reading Solzhenitsyn’s ā€œThe Gulagā€ and it is very evident that there was and continues to be one behavior that afflicts human beings. The persistent lack of resistance to evil.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Evil is disguised as good. If we saw evil as evil we would not succumb. Satan knows what he is doing.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Evil can be disguised as good as we've seen with the Plandemic. There is evil that is pure and simply evil. The evil indoctrination of our children. The evil depicted in a POTUS that took an oath to preserve and protect the country. God knows the outcome; the point is that WE must understand we have been given the good sense and instincts and should use them wisely.

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GG's avatar

What got me into Gulag was Jeff's mention of Witness by Whittaker Chambers. Chambers says people know things are not right, man is looking for answers, man looks around, sees the mess and decides the only thing that will fix it is to blow it up. That's why he and every communist he knew became communist. They're willing to die for their cause. Our government, schools, Hollywood, courts, etc., have all been overtaken with people who want our end. People who were committed to the end ran communist Russia and look at all the death and destruction that followed. We seem to have fallen down the same hole, only we're just at the beginning.

Chambers also says this struggle comes down to: is God God or is man god? And man has decided he's god. Resistance should start with some inward reflection and subsequent housecleaning. If we don't do that we're finished.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Agree. All of us from our early childhood were told we could do this, we could do that. Achieve, achieve. And when we did, we thought we did it on our own. What we have forgotten is that everything we have is because He gave it to us. He gave us wisdom and discernment; He gave us strength. We need to use it.

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GG's avatar

You should read Gulag Archipelago.

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Jon Swenson's avatar

I read One Day in the Life of Ivan D.

Not sure I'm up to Gulag.

Rand's Atlas Shrugged is good, condensed version would be better. (Eastern Euros like to write LONG books.)

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GG's avatar

I've read Atlas several times and have loved it. I'd go live in Galt's Gulch in a heartbeat.

Witness by Whittaker Chambers is more hopeful than Gulag. I feel like it really gives an explanation to how we got to such insanity. It also talks about the cure, which we desperately need.

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Chevrus's avatar

Sadly this remains untranslated...

https://archive.org/details/200YearsTogether

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norstadt's avatar

Still, there is some irony to President Lock'em All Up getting indicted.

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Jon Swenson's avatar

It's not irony.

It's corruption.

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daiva's avatar

Not mutually exclusive propositions: can cohabitate peacefully side by side just perfectly šŸ˜

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Prof. Fred Nazar's avatar

The 2020 and 2022 rigged and stolen elections (it’s the machines!):

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati

J6: what THEY don't want YOU to know

The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know

Are we crazy to accept demo-crazy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/democracy-democrazy

It sucks! We need to improve democracy… how about REAL democracy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/reinventing-democracy

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Ron Bergen's avatar

Hey, Jeff, please do that! Essay that story on how the democrat machine has been working since the civil war. I’d love it!

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

all in favor say "aye"

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VanLife Views's avatar

Aye

And any books or articles on the history šŸ‘

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JW's avatar

Aye.

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KBH Geronimo's avatar

Aye. And, I was thinking Jeff would make a good VP for DeSantis.

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Agent99's avatar

Aye!

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Chelie's avatar

Aye!

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KarenQ's avatar

Aye!!

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Paul K's avatar

Ditto. Yes please, Jeff.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Start with the part of the Constitution that says no state shall become part or party with any "confederacy"...

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MKnight's avatar

Yes! My brain is going to be buzzing all day about that. Like how communism didn’t die with the wall coming down, it just morphed. This is an angle that I hadn’t thought a ton about, but I obviously should have!

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Jon Swenson's avatar

Socialism is an evil that has persisted for centuries.

Socialism/communism/fascism all control the lives, liberty and property of individuals.

The evil begins in the human heart to control other people.

In The Law, Bastiat calls this 'positive' law. These are laws passed by the legislators to force people to live in a way the legislator thinks is best. How many people have wanted to force others to live a certain way?

The USA vigorously started down the socialist path in the early 1900s. It was called 'progressivism'.

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Jrhherurhdv's avatar

Yes, I would absolutely read that essay

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DiAnna Webber's avatar

I would too 😊

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Democrats in the Antebellum South were one thing. Democrats today are quite another. I think Vladimir Illych would be at home with them.

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Snow's avatar

Yes, please do! I’d love to read it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I would like to see that too!

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Chevrus's avatar

Aye-Aye Captain!!

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Bonz's avatar

Yes please that would be fantastic!

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The 2020 and 2022 rigged and stolen elections (it’s the machines!):

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/the-2020-american-coup

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/david-rockefeller-illuminati

J6: what THEY don't want YOU to know

The fake riot was mason-planned, incited and guided by FBI agents, who broke into the Capitol !!!

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/j6-what-you-need-to-know

Are we crazy to accept demo-crazy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/democracy-democrazy

It sucks! We need to improve democracy… how about REAL democracy?

https://scientificprogress.substack.com/p/reinventing-democracy

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Christy's avatar

Weak men create hard times

Hard times create strong men

Strong men create good times

Good times create weak men

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We could use some hard men right now.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Ones that don't have the Ukraine, Pride, and BLM flags in their bio.

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Kathy Lux's avatar

Or the tranny flag. This is our real problem now. Eunuchs are being created even as we speak. The lefties should be happy. No more ā€œtoxic masculinity.ā€

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Toxic masculinity triggered something in me. Flags, symbols, slogans, memes mean nothing to me. (I’m not disagreeing with anything in your comment. I’m just moved to speak) the most toxic masculinity example is the WH bumble butt masquerading as a leader! Stepping back from the emotional push around the proxy war, what does the Ukraine winning look like? It should come from negotiations for peace. But he’s too toxic to see that. Russia is a nuclear power. Ukraine is not. UN will call upon our nukes to retaliate if it comes to that. This is scary …

And second most toxic men are the ones dressing up like hookers claiming to be women but in reality erasing women as a category altogether!

It’s cultural appropriation at its worst! If they don’t stop, I want to go to one of their story hours with brown makeup on my face, a red dot on my forehead, a feather in my hair wearing a kimono, and a soccer ball in my panties singing a song from a cartoon I saw many years ago, ā€œYou’re nothing but a nothing!ā€ You’re not a thing at all!

Sorry to rant, but I needed that. šŸ¤—

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FourWinds's avatar

You nailed it! Ignore these idiots and they only have their little group to share their nonsense with. I think one reason they started coming after kids was for attention, or it could be they are flat out evil.

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AngelaK's avatar

The power of suggestion !

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Fla Mom's avatar

Doing nothing is how they have been appointed to very high positions in government, the better to crush non-compliars.

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AngelaK's avatar

The attention given to those minority individuals confused by sexuality and perversions is what creates more...It is the power of suggestion...it is a very strong thing for the weak minded godless generations.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And people who don’t share comically false websites as facts that state trump is still really the president?

Well there goes you.

I have a Ukraine flag up on my

Desk.

Deal with it 😁

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Based Florida Man's avatar

A Ukraine flag on your desk? CNN and Biden would be proud of your compliance.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thank you for taking this on.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

However it isn’t worth BFM’s time. I find it’s best to ignore rather than engage. No ā€œlikesā€ No comments.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I know but if we say nothing that seems wrong. I like the rotating aspect of the situation.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I agree Sunnydaze! Ignore 2N and keep scrolling!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are hard to handle.

Why is Russia on day 402 of a war it claimed it won on day 2?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What is he taking on?

He consistently picks winners like fuaci šŸ˜‰

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FourWinds's avatar

I made a reply to this when I was meaning to reply to Benjamin. I fixed the reply to add his name. Sorry if I made it sound like it was directed to you - it was not. Correct: CNN (and the whole media) and Biden love anyone who agrees with them. The rest are "dangerous".

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That’s why I refused the clot shot. Refused to wear a mask. Didnt social distance. Laughed at the fed gov rules for Covid Becuase they were a joke.

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Agree with you 100%, although I wouldn't say I laughed as much as I was concerned at the number of people blindly following them and the insane overuse of power by those that had just been given it. But yes, not a single one of those rules made a single bit of sense and were not worth following in the least.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I am pretty libertarian in my views. I revelled in the hypocrisy of the Marxist movement. My body, their choice.

I battled the DOD and it’s Hypocritical edicts and mandated for a while.

Wish it could be 2018/19 again. Economy good, no war, bad guys getting slain a lot.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It’s been there since 2019.

By the way, how are your Russian friends doing?

Not so well, lost another 7k men charging bakhmut

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Steve's avatar

Dear Benjamin —

You say…..

ā€œI have a Ukraine Flag up on my Desk — deal with itā€

ā€œBy the way, how are your Russian friends doing?ā€

Really? Sounds like Arrogance & Stupidity all in one package…how ā€œefficientā€ of you.

Fast forward to 36 minutes in…you might learn what’s really going on…then again, considering how ā€œefficientā€ you are….hmmm?

https://rumble.com/v29wgqo-this-is-war-bidens-nord-stream-attack-back-fires-as-putin-demands-un-meetin.html

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Chevrus's avatar

Valiant effort, but you will just encourage it.

One only hopes it will enlist in the International Battalion

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LOL…the ā€œwoke-folkā€ like Mr. Benjamin regarding Ukraine are all like a box of Pampers — self absorbed and full of $h!t. Good news is, we’re pretty much a critical thinking group here…(overwhelmingly) — so he can spout whatever he wants — whereas, if this were a woke-gathering, he’d be canceled within minutes. šŸ¤”

Just sayin —

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I do believe you nailed it!!

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Last I checked American military personnel were forbidden from desertion. Or going AWOL/UA. It’s a fairly serious

Charge.

By the way, have you gone to fix the border yet?

Gone to east Palestine?

Gone to fix roads?

Why not?

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šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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FourWinds's avatar

Benjamin, I've noticed you reply a lot to Jeff's posts, as do I. You seem to either not like or want to challenge the number of opinions by other commenters. That's definitely your right and I support anyone speaking their mind, but I'm confused why you are on here with so many you appear to disagree with. I personally steer clear of places I feel like I don't fit in on. (I am not suggesting you should do the same.) Do you believe the majority of us are thinking wrong? Do you believe we've been brainwashed or that we are doing our best to come to our own conclusions about things? What am I missing here? I have no interest in picking a fight, it just seems you think a lot of us are wrong in our thinking. Can you please explain why?

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From what I can tell Benji lurks here, and then after currying a little favor by agreeing with hot-button items, he strikes when the Ukraine topic is breached. Right on Cue....EverySingleTime. Petty insults, repetitive bullet points and an extremist perspective. IMO he is placed here to re-direct the narrative. Here are some types:

https://mashable.com/article/types-of-online-trolls

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right, the DoD/intelligence complex is intent on controlling the thoughts and speech of Americans. So we are going to have these ppl on this forum too. Their purpose is not to convince but to distract and divert. Most of all, to cause division. This is called "divide and conquer" on a national scale.

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I noticed that too. It’s hard to keep up with all the comments and sometimes I’m so busy that I don’t read any unfortunately but for the most part I see he pops up right on schedule when the subject of Ukraine is brought up. I didn’t see him the other day though, when ChatGPT showed a better understanding of the nature of the conflict and the details that most of the people are not aware of. I see his perspective as one sided, not different from the msm narrative we hear

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JuQu's avatar

Are you replying to Benjamin?

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FourWinds's avatar

Yes, sorry. I should have made that clear. Edited it.

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Jackie J's avatar

It’s not that he has an opposing viewpoint-that’s okay. It’s that he’s mean. Every single comment; mean.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Facts are sometimes hard to deal with.

I can be abrasive. But hey, they love trump for that, right?

I was absolutely stubborn and refusing to budge on getting a Covid shot.

I am very passionate and ungiving on things I believe in.

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JuQu's avatar

Actually BeNNjamiNN, because we are in America( yes, God Bless it) and we still have some rights, he can say what he wants. And, you, hard man, can say ā€œ deal with itā€.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He can. Doesnt mean he’s right.

I remember a couple people here saying Russia was going to steamroll Ukraine in the winter of 2023. Well, that didnt happen.

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JuQu's avatar

Who said he was ā€œrightā€? Who says you are ā€œrightā€? Opening one’s mind to the opinions of others is good. It could even cause a change of mind. If one wears certainty as a badge, however, this can be challenging, even frightening. Give it a try and see. Cheers.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I generally oppose oppressors of all kinds, including foreign entities that force Covid vaccines (like Putin, something people like to overlook).

Russia and a lot of people here have made some grandiose claims.

Still waiting on that steam

Rolling but it broke against fortress bakhmut and vuhledar

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Oliver Closov's avatar

Of course you do.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And…?

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CStone's avatar

What are your preferred pronouns?

For now the I will use for you will be twit/twat

A question, twit/twat.

Is this how you get your jollies, twit/twat?

Gosh. Aren’t you special.

I see you swimming in the cesspool, going round and round and I think......that one is just........special . šŸ˜‰

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Or their preferred pronouns!!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

This is the greatest country on earth and I want it to stay that way.

We don’t get that way by abandoning people and violating civil rights.

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Janet's avatar

And women too. I know some hard ass gals like moms going after the indoctrinators and resisting hard and truth warriors. šŸ˜šŸ‘šŸ»

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Christy's avatar

Lol. Yes ma’am!!! Behind every good man is a great woman! When I posted that I’m Inferring women toošŸ’œ

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yes. We need you too!

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JuQu's avatar

Gee, thanks!

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Christy's avatar

They will be created by what’s about to happen.

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AM's avatar

Tytler’s Cycle can confirm. Playing out before our eyes.

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Janet's avatar

? Looked it up—a cycle company. But I’m intrigued now.

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AM's avatar

Basically, Tytler's Cycle suggests that democracies go through the following phases: 1) Bondage; 2) Great Courage (breaking free from bondage); 3) Liberty; 4) Abundance; 5) Complacency; 6) Apathy; 7) Dependency; 8) BONDAGE - again, thus starting the cycle over.

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Christy's avatar

šŸ’Æ

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Fla Mom's avatar

Lol, try Polybius, in ca 100 BC:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Polybius/6*.html

Also, Strauss & Howe expanded on the 'American cycle of history' idea in both Generations and The Fourth Turning. We're well into the fourth turning.

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AM's avatar

Obviously most philosophers (Tytler was a Scottish philosopher) build on the earlier works of Greeks and Romans. Speaking of 4th Turning - have a great book on that. Am fascinated with cycles and patterns that seem to play out over and over through recorded history.

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AM's avatar

And why LOL? Feels condescending.

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Fla Mom's avatar

You're right, it was, and I apologize. But the origin of it is that I have only in later adulthood come to know these things, and when we say 'some guy says 'x,'' it can be more easily dismissed than, 'this has been known so well that it was described in detail in 100 BC.'

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AM's avatar

Thank you! I know it's sometimes hard to read "tone" in the written word. Appreciate it.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I edited my comment above for more information, but you may not have seen it.

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Fla Mom's avatar

If you've not read Polybius, I advise doing so before coming to that conclusion. It's not long, and it shocked me.

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AM's avatar

There’s been a lot of valid criticisms of The Fourth Turning. But that doesn’t stop me from being fascinated by it ha ha.

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Chevrus's avatar

Fair enough but there is evidence a'plenty of Predictive Programming and Directed History....

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Janet's avatar

Thanks!. I love substack!!

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

wait a minute...is this a double entendre? :-D

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Blaine Smith's avatar

We are somewhere between good times and weak men.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

These aren’t even hard times yet.

Things are slightly more expensive. Nothing terrible yet.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks for the uplifting message today. I've been only mildly following the drama between Trump and DeSantis as the 2024 seems meaningless until honest elections are allowed. I'm figuring a demoncrat will be installed.

It was fun to see Elon Musk pass up Obama as the most followed person on twitter this week. Elon does a lot of bold stuff (like opening up the source code) and a lot of us enjoy that positive energy.

I'm glad the QAnon Shaman has been sprung but I would like to see money go to the legal team of the other hundreds of dudes still in the Deep State Dungeon.

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"I'm glad the QAnon Shaman has been sprung but I would like to see money go to the legal team of the other hundreds of dudes still in the Deep State Dungeon."

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SA's avatar

I’d also like to see the officers who gave him a private tour and then stood by and said nothing when he was arrested be identified and interviewed. Why do they get special treatment and no accountability? Officer privilege?

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Martha's avatar

Chansley's original lawyer, Al Watkins, was more interested getting a plea deal than actually defending his client. I suspect Watkins never bothered to try identify, much less interview, the officers who "provided the guided tour" to Chansley.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Who are those guys??

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I agree. I would rather see some of the other people being prosecuted helped. Something doesn’t ring quite right with the Shaman. Why is a ā€œgentleā€ man dressed in such a way to definitively attract attention? Why did he sit in solitary confinement and nothing is heard? And why has there been no attempt to find the police officers who escorted him? If I were an unjustly treated citizen, that would be my first question. Surely someone else saw him being escorted around, why did no one else speak out?

I hope he is all the things we believe now, but something doesn’t quite add up.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Im glad to see the man out of jail too, But i wouldn't Multiply him. The video looked to me like he was part of the "act".

His jail time and release is in the script.

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Carlos Santiago's avatar

While he was certainly used by the propaganda machine, I don't think it was knowing and intentional on his part.

I personally know a couple people who met him prior to J6 and they believe he is legit and not a provocateur.

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I agree with Linda. I think the guy was some type of plant and I’m not trusting him. Why would I trust someone whose lifestyle prior to J6 was that of an ā€œEco-warrior?ā€ I think he’s a paid protestor and they used him as an example. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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Yup

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Crixcyon's avatar

Not trusting musk...he's into deep A/I and EV's which suggests he thinks global warming is real.

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YYR's avatar

He's calling for a stop in AI development, been consistent on this for years.

One does t have to believe in global warming to recognize a business opportunity.

I don't trust any of these oligarchs, but Musk seems to be waking up, at least. Time will tell.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I don’t trust him either. But he might be useful.

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Penny North's avatar

That’s a good way to look at him.

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That made me šŸ˜šŸ˜†

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Electric cars are a big innovation. See Will Prowse on youtube for a right wing type of guy who uses his own solar grid to keep his Tesla running totally free.

I don't doubt Elon is grifting. Just pointing out the tech is cool and doesn't have to be for lefty/negative purposes.

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Electric cars arrived the first ackshoolly, well-nigh two centuries ago, well before their gas cousins šŸ˜

caranddriver.com/features/g15378765/worth-the-watt-a-brief-history-of-the-electric-car-1830-to-present/

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You nailed it. He’s probably just another one who can consider ā€˜a single item in the brain’ useful today, considered a loser tomorrow. Promoted always because of who he is related to, or one of the myriad genders/melanin saturated colors available.

We are beginning to see just what effect this has on society, as those hired as engineers in the transportation industry fail to design and manufacture anything near ā€˜safe’. And as those in the designing of bridges, commercial buildings fail to design anything that can stand, as they cannot ā€˜do the math’ . And can you imagine how much worse the world of medicine will be when these imbeciles are accepted to medical schools and become pediatricians, surgeons.?

The lawyers that are coming out of law schools now are proving the point. They are utterly without learning. They are idiots with letters after their names (I point you to the most recent judicial appointments.......they are illiterates).

Because of the ā€˜two ns bennjaminnnnnnns’ of our world, our society is spiraling out of control faster than anyone expected.

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We used to watch Will way back when he was parked in a big RV on the streets of Silicon Valley in the Bay Area

He sure knew his solar!

When we acquired some solar on our rig first off we pulled up Will and some of his YT videos

Didn’t know he has a Tesla now šŸ¤”

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Dave's avatar

90% of people's opposition to EVs is based on ignorance - they still think of EVs as though its 1998 and the GM EV1 is the top of the line, and that all its downsides are still common

Charging really is fast, batteries last longer than gas engines(if its large enough capacity and has active thermal management), winter is no bar to travel (my last winter trip was 630 miles driving in 1 day, only 15m longer than gas and we could have gone 200 more miles if needed) and no they aren't a high fire risk

Purchase price is the one real downside

If we didn't have a travel trailer I wouldn't have a gas vehicle at all. When the CT comes out it may very well be able to do the distance on a road trip, but since we didn't put down a deposit early enough its gonna be 5+ years before we could even get one.

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No Dave, I object to the mining for battery components by children, the pollution from the strip mining, the FACT that they must be charged with the same power plants the west is hell bent on closing, and the question of safe disposal when the batteries reach end of life. But it's cool because it's "somewhere else."

Charging is not "really fast" when you're on the road and waiting in line for the one charger that works, charging still takes a long time and is more frequent than gas. And guess how much that replacement battery will set you back?

This tech is not ready for prime time, and I resent my taxes supporting rich people's expensive toys and undoubtedly making some of them richer for building this crap we don't need.

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There's lots of places to get raw materials, not just in Africa. Australia, Norway, US, Canada. Its the legacy automakers that choose Africa as their source.

You don't dispose, you recycle. Recycling is not impossible now, its just the facilities haven't been built due to no present need for such things at scale today. You'll start to need that in about 10 years.

Yes charging is fast. I can quite assure you my two most common road trips are extended in their duration vs when we did them in gas by 5-15m. And some of that is just how much bathrooming, and how long it took for food service.

Not concerned about replacement cost of the battery because it should outlast a gas engine. Honestly, after 300k do you really think its worth a whole new pack? Refurbs if anything.

I oppose subsidies as well. Subsidies have slowed the development down because most mfgs have chased the subsidy instead of pursuing consumer desires. Subsidies encourage short range EVs over gas replacement EVs.

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Perhaps I am ignorant, perhaps not, but I want nothing to do with EVs. I just went from OH to NJ, stopping no more than 15 minutes tops (each way) to put gas in the car. I got stuck in Philly traffic both ways and in snow on the way back. I could just imagine my EV dying on the freeway in the cold or downtown Philly, where there were people going up to cars and knocking on windows. I ran a red light to get away from an aggressive person. Also, I don't want to add hours to my trip to charge the thing - 10 hours on the road is enough. I can also picture it dying on the road if I ever had to evacuate. I can carry a gas can in the car. I can't carry an EV charger.

Then there's the issue that I need electricity to charge it, the same electricity that is generated by the fossil fuels the left yells about, plus the mining and pollution YYR mentioned. Last summer, power companies in CA shut off power to people simply because the grid couldn't handle it, or so they say. The PUCO is Ohio is investigating why AEP chose to randomly shut off power to part of Columbus for days last summer in a heat wave. Most have smart meters (I don't) that can be turned off remotely and lunatics in government who would be crazy enough to turn off power of anyone who will not comply. How do you charge your car? Obviously this has not happened yet, but I've seen plenty of crap over the past three years I thought I never would. I believe Teslas can be turned off remotely. Any company that has the ability to do that is dangerous.

Both my cars are bought and paid for in full. Both work. I see no point in shelling out 60 grand for a new EV plus another 25 grand WHEN the battery dies in a few years. I can buy a lot of gas for 85 grand and a used gas car for a lot less than that.

Until someone makes an EV with the equivalent of an alternator that charges the battery as the car runs, until the price becomes reasonable, until mining for lithium becomes child-labor free, until there is a solid recycling plan, and until I am convinced no one can turn off the car remotely, this will be a solid pass from me.

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Dave's avatar

You didn't say where in OH or NJ, but if I may provide an estimate based on a couple cities at the far edges of each state.

Cincinnati to Atlantic City is 630 miles

In seasonal March weather, Model 3 LR AWD, my preferred route planner estimates 58 minutes of charging over 4 charging stops (7, 12, 28, and 11 minutes).

Gas or electric I fully expect on a 630 mile drive to have 1hr of stopping minimum, and closer to 90 minutes actually..

"Remote shutoff" is actually impossible to prevent a user from disrupting.

Remove the modem and 'remote shutoff' becomes impossible. If its soldered in place so it couldn't be removed you'd need to cut the antenna, solder on a resister (dummy load) and then wrap it in foil for good measure.

Tesla's do not need a connection to operate, they only need it for convenience.

While I don't presently have a means to generate electricity at home, generating electricity at home is a whole lot easier than refining gasoline - which they of course plan to shut off.

If an EV could have an alternator that charged the battery as the car runs it would never need charging ever. That would be a perpetual motion machine which of course defies the laws of physics and so is impossible.

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VanLife Views's avatar

Last summer 2022 my x and his fiancƩ who live in the Bay Area were trying to charge their EV

But CA was doing their rolling black out routine and some of the grid just went down.

So they were stuck. Their a few miles out of town so no bus near by or Ubers.

I asked if they had some kind of powerful generator to possibly hook up to.

I had seen a meme last summer where someone had strapped a big generator to the back of their EV and drove around LA

In the end I believe they took a few days off and waited it out.

Not sure what happens to all those EV’s when CA shuts down each summer with those rolling blackouts

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Dave's avatar

The lesson there is choose your domicile location wisely - don't live in a 3rd world state and expect to enjoy modern luxuries there

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FourWinds's avatar

I appreciate the reply, but I have neither the expertise nor desire to modify things like antennas, etc. I am not capable nor comfortable messing around with things I can't afford to fix if I make a mistake. Mechanics is not my thing. The car should just have an "off" switch for tracking rather than someone messing with it just to get privacy. My old car has no GPS and no tracking and I like that.

I also don't have the means nor the money to generate electricity at home. Even if it existed, it's not feasible for many. Passing through Philly I noticed the unbelievably dense housing units and crowding. How would those who lived in those huge buildings generate their own power? They could not. And, I mentioned before, AEP randomly shut off power for days in a heat wave last summer in Columbus, Ohio. They're under investigation for it. I don't need to be stranded at home due to my power being off. I need to get to work reliably so I can continue to eat and live indoors.

The stoppage of refining oil means no petroleum products, which means no plastics. Right now the system is not in place to completely recycle and reuse all plastics, so for the short term, refined oil is here to stay. Virtually every industry depends on it in some way, including the medical industry. I'm not going to worry about not having gasoline. If we get to that point, I have a feeling there will be one hell of a mess on everyone's hands. No diesel means no food delivery, no medicine, no replacement parts/things to fix your home coming to a Home Depot, no nothing. How many of us are fully self sufficient? I'd say the Amish in northern Ohio come close, but the rest of us aren't.

Columbus to OCNJ, by the way.

I'm glad you're comfortable with EVs and can afford one. I'm not comfortable and see no rational reason whatsoever to spend an insane amount of money (read: go into debt for at least 60K) on something that will need a new battery in a few years (another 25K), especially when I own two fully paid for cars. Buying something I can't afford and don't need or want is is pure insanity, not to mention it means I would have terrible money handling skills. I'll still pass. Call me ignorant if you want, but at least I won't be in debt.

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Dave's avatar

Why do you think it would need a new 25k battery in a few years?

See these are the kinds of myths I'm talking about.

It is expected that the packs in current generation gas replacement EVs will last 300-500k miles. Darn near like buying one car and getting two.

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Jeff C's avatar

Curious Dave, do you have a financial connection to the electric vehicle industry?

You start off by saying those that still prefer ICE vehicles are ignorant dolts (good way to win the audience over). You then make the laughable claim that charging is fast, fast compared to what? Not compared to filling my tank at the gas station. You then brush aside real concerns regarding loss of range and torque in cold weather (that have been amply documented).

You ignore the fact that these cars are being totaled in minor accidents as no one really understands how to assess battery damage. You ignore the environmental damage from the required rare earth element mining. You also ignore the fact that the power grid cannot support a wholesale switch to electric cars and will likely cost hundreds of billions to upgrade it, assuming it can even be done.

If you like electric cars that's great, knock yourself out. But don't come on here calling the rest of us stupid for not sharing your infatuation.

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Dave's avatar

Just a vehicle owner who wants to make sure that the freedom and benefits of the existence of personal transportation doesn't end any time soon.

Have to set the precedent that long-range, and private ownership is the way its gonna be, not 'rent a commuter-box if your social credit allows'

I did not say that ICE vehicle owners are ignorant dolts. I said 90% of people's opposition to EVs is based on ignorance. That is not an insult. That is a statement of fact. If you do not know of something, but you make claims on it, you are making claims in ignorance.

The most frequent and notorious example of what I'm talking about being "you have to swap the battery every 5 years for $20k"

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daiva's avatar

Ask peeps stuck in traffic jam during bad snowstorm šŸ˜ Just a li'l detail, not even touching on the whole plain enormous 'sustainable' scam ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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Dave's avatar

They were comfortable the entire duration and drove away - it takes 1-2% per hour to keep the cabin at 60F

As I said, myths and ignorance

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daiva's avatar

As I echo, myths and ignorance on your [amazingly gullible] part šŸ˜‡šŸ¤­

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Dave's avatar

You sound like a college kid telling a Cuban refugee about the wonders of communism.

I am experience and I'm telling you who are inexperienced, you don't know jack diddly squat.

Commuter stuck in a snowjam -

Standard practice among EV owners is 80% charge for daily driving

Say you have a 60 mile commute round trip. A vehicle with a 75kw battery starts with 60kw in it at 80%. A 60 mile round trip commute requires about 20kw in winter.

This means you have 40 kw to keep warm with in a snowstorm. It takes 1-2kw per hour to heat the cabin. So while you are parked you have 20-40 hours of heat.

If I was on a road trip then I'm being responsible and looking at the weather and the road ahead. Snowstorms don't just magically appear out of nowhere after all. IA truck stop parking lot is a heck of a lot more comfortable than a ditch, and less costly than a tow/wreck.

I alter my travel plans all the time in winter. When I visit my folks its 400 miles away. If a snowstorm is forecast to coincide with my drive I leave the day before. Yes it sucks to lose a day visiting my folks. Would suck worse if dangerous road conditions lead to never seeing us again.

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daiva's avatar

On serious ding though, note two humble-yet-magic words: energy density. These are from physics fundamentals no wishful thinking can override šŸ™‚

šŸ—Ø About 60 pounds of batteries are needed to store the energy equivalent to that in one pound of hydrocarbons. Meanwhile, 50–100 pounds of various materials are mined, moved, and processed for one pound of battery produced.

šŸ—Ø In rough terms, it requires the energy equivalent of about 100 barrels of oil to fabricate a quantity of batteries that can store a single barrel of oil-equivalent energy.

Maths matters (& it's not raycist nor Cuban communist šŸ˜‰). Check it out for yourself if you're up to challenge your luxury beliefs --> manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible

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daiva's avatar

Ok, let's transfer to aural plane šŸ˜‚ You sound like a butthurt brat whose cherished toy was [grossly unfairly!] badmouthed by random jackass on interwebz: How on earth dare they! 😤

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TC's avatar

You don’t have to trust people to appreciate certain actions they take.

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FourWinds's avatar

I believe he thinks people should be chipped. If that is the case, I won't trust him at all. It's a big Hell No for chips in my body, other than potato chips!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes same, I only want potato chips too 😁

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Dr Linda's avatar

Maybe chocolate chips.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh yeah those as well 😁

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FourWinds's avatar

I forgot about those!! Yes, chocolate chips are ok too.

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

agreed, he's an elitist just like everyone with money and power. he either likes to stir things up or sees the bs and doesn't like it so he plays against it, but at the end he can turn on a dime.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

If you’d been following this Gorgo, you’d see that Musk has been warning against AI for years. When you say ā€˜suggests’ it just means no proof but starting a rumor anyway.

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Chelie's avatar

Elon has made some gestures waking up but by how much? He is owned by the government.

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taxpayer's avatar

Musk's companies also benefit from various large gov't subsidies.

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KarenQ's avatar

I had that same thought myself about doing a multiplier for the guys that are still in the DC Gulag.

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Tracy F's avatar

Yes! It is unbelievable what is happening to these people and it’s crickets from our congress. I am sick just thinking about them. Many have young families and have not seen their children for over two years. It is so so wrong

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Lincoln's avatar

ā€œI'm glad the QAnon Shaman has been sprung but I would like to see money go to the legal team of the other hundreds of dudes still in the Deep State Dungeonā€...agree with Based Florida Man

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AM's avatar

One of your best substacks ever, well done. And you’re 100% correct; the world is not going to like being controlled by unchecked Democrats. That’s a scary thought isn’t it? Wow.

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Janet's avatar

I heard the local Democrat organizer babble excitedly that after the at the next election ā€œwe’ll have control of the whole governmentā€. Then he scurried down the street to the next block. Oh, for the odd car that flattens such things like slow squirrels that end up ā€œhide highā€ with the tail flapping in the breeze.

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My step-dad always said they were tits up. One of the many endearing comments that made him my son’s favorite adult in the world. They’d drive together doing deliveries for my store and grandpa would exclaim well that ones tits up. šŸ˜‚.

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Janet's avatar

🤣🤣. I’ve heard that one too. My dad called inconsequential idiots ā€œpiss antsā€.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

I have to agree!

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YYR's avatar

Enjoying it so far?

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AM's avatar

Yes hasn't it been a wonderful transition the last couple of years? /sarcasm

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YYR's avatar

Simply marvelous! 🤣

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nymusicdaily's avatar

"Every single federal worker who wants to avoid living in a chaos-filled, dystopian anarchy needs to start whisteblowing right NOW."

truer words were never spoken. this means the CDC and DOD too.

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GenEarly's avatar

CW's are Messy Affairs. We get caught up in our own National Issues, which are Vital, but there Are International Issues as well.

The USSA Fed Reserve Dollar is Being Dumped by The World. No Russian Banks are going bankrupt, FYI.

Brutal Economics Just Ahead, May-June time frame for a more precipitous decline. What will that Set Off in turn??? Figure it out for yourself.

"Politics" is a Symptom of Societal-Economical Rot. How many of Us know about US Senate Bill # 686, Sponsored by the Repub-democRats ???

It is "Legal" to Yell Fire!!! in a theater, When There Is A Fire.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/30/rand-paul-shreds-josh-hawley-over-restrict-act-while-blocking-unanimous-consent-and-reminding-about-constitution-and-bills-of-attainer/

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Karen Murphy's avatar

I’m with Rand Paul. I’m not comfortable with banning tik tok while the other technocrats survive.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Oh NOW they get all concerned about our Bill of Rights! It's all theater to keep us distracted. Until people start getting jail on actual criminal charges, it's just a clown show. The Bill of Rights is gone. They have already trampled that.

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GenEarly's avatar

Not as long as you have your gunz and more importantly the will to use in self-defense. We don't realize the Size of the 2nd Amendment Militia of Citizens in the USA.

That's On Purpose due to Feral USSA Propaganda to isolate and render us impotent.

Not Going To Happen.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

Thus the RESTRICT Act to stop them in their tracks under a total surveilance state and give them 20 years in Federal Prison.

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GenEarly's avatar

Them/Their or Us/We??? Tyranny is Tyranny, hence the dilema of Granting the fullest measure of Liberty to our Enemies as We would want for Ourselves.

As a Primary point I Do Not "Want" to kill anyone, burn down anything, or force others to believe as I do. But I Do Expect The Same In Return, or there is going to be a Big Problem.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Oops, typo. It's Alan Dershowitz.

Why can't a prosecutor indict our illegitimate president and his son??? It seems obvious that there are REAL crimes there.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Something to do with being a sitting president or the like for Joe. That and the DoJ is obviously not after justice, but is politically motivated now. :(

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Anne Clifton's avatar

So you're advocating for actually abiding by the law? What a concept! Someone should educate the leftists on that (not that they care, of course).

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YYR's avatar

It's not a lawz just a custom to not indict a sitting president.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I'm sick of that. Let's do something right for a change, Charlie Brown!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well they’ve already gone against custom now with this indictment so all bets are off!

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Paul Buxton's avatar

I did think the number of Alvins was getting quite out of hand.

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RunningLogic's avatar

O-kay!!!

(Said in my best chipmunk voice šŸ˜†)

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Let's make "Alvin" a 'bye' word.

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Brian's avatar

Would love to read what you have to say about the Civil War "surrender".

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Gary Crawford's avatar

Incredible analysis and insight rooted in history, contemporary reality, unexpected humor, common sense and holding out for hope ! I am truly amazed at Jeff Childers knowledge, perception and ability. A gift to us all !

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Paul Ashley's avatar

"On the far-right, some conservatives are calling for tit-for-tat revenge..."

There is a place for revenge, and calling what is needed revenge could be seen as a tactic of the left to cause us to do nothing. For example, when on social media I've called for the House to bring articles of impeachment for Biden, Garland, and Myorkas, I often get the response that it would make us "just like the Democrats", with no recognition that there is a qualitative difference between the cases made. What we do is disarm ourselves of the legitimate use of power to avoid the appearance of abusing power. The same goes for the "don't take the bait" argument. While in general that's a good thing to do, at some point it merely disarms ourselves. We need to remember that the greatest country on earth was established because many brave patriots took King George's bait. It is not tit for tat when one side is doing right and the other wrong.

"We are all in this together, and it is long-past time we all ACTED like we are in this together. ...Every single federal worker who wants to avoid living in a chaos-filled, dystopian anarchy needs to start whistleblowing right NOW."

Correct, but if the revelations of the whistleblowers are not ACTED upon, as opposed to being merely bloviated about in endless do-nothing hearings, what have we accomplished? We need to start ACTING like the left, not in the sense of abusing power, but in the sense that we mirror their bold ACTION - action with real world consequences - in the furtherance of what they believe. They have the courage of their evil convictions. Do we have the courage of our righteous ones?

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

The revelations of some whistleblowers are ignored when it doesn’t meet the narrative. Dr. William Thompson from the CDC blew the whistle in 2014 and Congress still hasn’t heard his testimony regarding black male toddlers have a 260%+ increased risk of regression into autism from the MMR vaccine. Dr. Thompson was prevented from giving a speech detailing his findings and the head of the CDC at the time, Dr. Julie Gerberding, ordered all the documents to be shredded. She was rewarded by going though the revolving door between the CDC and pHarma, and becoming the President of the Vaccine Division at Merck. Ultimately, she became in charge of Ethics at Merck and was named Woman of the Year in Science in 2019. In January 2020, she sold $18 million of her stock, which was half of what she owned.

Also, I wonder how many people are aware that citizens are regularly denied a trial by jury. If you or your child is injured or killed by a vaccine, the complaint goes to Vaccine Court and it is heard by a Magistrate. When this happens, you have no rights to discovery and you will go up against the DOJ. Over 5200 families were denied Justice during the Omnibus Autism Proceedings. The DOJ withheld the testimony of their own expert witness, Dr. Zimmerman, because he changed his opinion and now said there are some children who regress into autism.

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Truthseeker's avatar

The vaccine injured are considered throw away people by our government … that’s the sad hard reality.

And we’ve been considered that for decades now.

The vaccine injured have been discriminated against historically and continue to be- ongoing.

If you consider there is still no approved treatment for autism… none. …after these decades of soaring autism rates… it shows you how the government doesn’t care that any of them improve or get well.

Recent stats are 1:36 eight year olds are somewhere on the autism spectrum… and it’s probably even higher

I was naĆÆve enough to think it was a funding issue all these years… or a lack of awareness.

But that’s just a load of bullshit. The government has been aware and known- all along!!! Since the very beginning.

So after the last three years, it’s painfully obvious the US has unlimited funds for Ukraine… and states of emergency… but no money for autism research and treatment funding. Not to mention they know this vaccine is killing people… just like they know the MMR and the AAP schedule injured hundreds of thousands of kids over the years.

The hypocrisy and corruption has been laid bare for all to see.

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CaplT's avatar

ā€œLaid bareā€ Maybe the only bright spot in this 3 year fiasco.

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Laura Hayes's avatar

Joanne Shannon,

Thank you for your comment. There have been countless ā€œsmoking gunsā€ and whistleblowers with regard to exposing the dangers, failures, and lack of need for vaccines, and with regard to with exposing the corruption that underlies vaccines from manufacture to mandate, and beyond, yet the Vaccine Holocaust continues in earnest, with the goal being to vaccinate all, from fetus to grave, without pause, and without the right to refuse.

I thought you, and others, might be interested in a few pieces of my work:

My first rally speech opposing the egregious, rights-stripping SB 277 in CA, delivered before the ā€œcarve outā€ for homeschoolers was added. It originally applied to every child in CA, age 0-18, for both daycare and school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WWEiEPUWSU&feature=youtu.be

ā€œWhy Is This Legal?ā€ (a comprehensive presentation I gave in 2018, video and transcript included at this link)

https://www.ageofautism.com/2018/11/why-is-this-legal-presentation-on-vaccines-by-laura-hayes.html

ā€œCitizens Against Mandatory Vaccinationsā€ (printable 2-pager)

https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/05/citizens-against-mandatory-vaccinations.html

ā€œThe Catastrophic Costs of Complyingā€ (I wrote this in August, 2020)

https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/08/the-catastrophic-costs-of-complying.html

Laura Hayes

https://www.ageofautism.com/exclusives.html

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

Thank you Laura for your continued attempt to educate people regarding all the lies we have been fed about vaccine safety. I joined the Medical Freedom Movement in 2017 when I stumbled upon a speech being given by Del Bigtree. It’s sad and frustrating how most everyone I know refuses to look at the facts surrounding the leading cause of coincidences. It seems that until misfortune crosses their own threshold, most people are unwilling to recognize the carnage caused by vaccines, but even then, many go into a state of denial.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Dr. Gerberding's history surpasses even that of "Rachel" Levine.

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Jeff C's avatar

Exactly. It's not "tit for tat revenge" but making them live by their own rules. We didn't change the rules, they did. We were perfectly happy with the old system where boundaries between legal disputes and political disputes were respected. We didn't ask for this.

But the fact remains that the new rules are now here. So we can hyperventilate about "hypocrisy" or we can show them that we won't stand for two-tiered justice. If a NY DA indicts a republican, then a Missouri (or Tennessee, Alabama, etc.) DA should indict a democrat. We can start with Hunter Biden or Hillary Clinton. Show them that the new rules apply to them too.

Leftists are bullies and they only thing they respect is power. They laugh at and frankly enjoy hand-wringing about "principles" and "hypocrisy" because it shows how weak and pathetic the conservative establishment is.

The left is marching forward on all fronts in the US, but there is one place where they are losing ground: transgenderism. That is because fearless warriors like Matt Walsh have said, "to hell with you, you are mentally ill, you are evil, and we are not going to let you abuse and brainwash our children". That's why state after state is now banning this stuff, it's not "tit for tat revenge" but a recognition of the left's destructive intent and relentless pursuit of its agenda. The fact that it took mutilating children's genitals for conservatives to finally recognize this is shameful.

The hour is late, either we fight them as ruthlessly as they are fighting us, or we may as well give up. It's not about revenge but actually standing up to these barbaric people.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great comment!

ā€œSo we can hyperventilate about "hypocrisy" or we can show them that we won't stand for two-tiered justice.ā€

THIS!!!

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I just love your comment so much!!! So spot on!! I can’t wait for a local DA to get started!

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CaplT's avatar

The thing is if we file suit we have to be correct and perfect. They only have to cry foul. We also have to prove them wrong like so many politically motivated arrests and hoaxes. The facts are there but it takes a long time. God bless Durham.

No tit for tat / eye for an eye needed. We can and should go all out on criminal corruption.

However, we need real cops, FB eyes, judges and prosecutors to do what needs to be done - uphold the law.

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Jeff C's avatar

I disagree, the point is not to convict them (which would be icing on the cake) but to subject them to the process. Let them twist in the wind running up huge legal fees and wasting years of their life being pursued by a Javert-like prosecutor. So what if they cry foul? They are going to do that even if the complaint is perfect.

What people fail to understand is that these are the new rules. We didn't make them, they did. That fat NY DA's complaint is a joke but does anyone think he's worried about people crying foul? He couldn't care less.

Unless we hold them to the exact same standard they hold us then this will not stop and will get much worse. This is what I mean about hand-wringing, people really need to knock it off as it's suicidal for our side. These are not normal times as the old rules are over.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

Yes the old rule are over. If we don’t fight, we will cease to exist at some point in the future.

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Roger Beal's avatar

You make a good point - there is a world of difference between BLM/AntiFa/trans-style revenge, and the revenge of well-crafted indictments.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

I totally agree with you!! We can’t just sit back anymore and reveal their crimes because no one cares but our side. They have to feel the punishment.

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CaplT's avatar

DemocRat legislators are trying to incite violence by conservatives or incite rallies so they can incite or perpetrate the violence. They found that Jan 6 method law worked in their favor so rinse and repeat.

Political prosecutions when there is ā€œno there thereā€ has nothing to do with holding crooked politicians or appointees accountable. Criminal prosecution for crimes committed is not vengeance, it is criminality being subject to the law.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great post!! šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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Karen Murphy's avatar

Yes! Esp b/c the Dems will stop at nothing. Obviously, we need to be careful & not take their bait of agitating us.

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Michael Fee's avatar

11 months in solitary confinement.

Everyone should be talking about that.

We need to end all the emergencies. The war on terror has been turned on us. The patriot act the use of military force amendment...all of the nonsense must end.

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Donna in MO's avatar

In other news, the ridiculousness of the Trans Day of Visibility is Exhibit A in Kansas City. The event info here, featuring Rachel Levine as the keynote speaker states "We ask that media and attendees respect the privacy of those in the audience and focus their cameras to the speakers on stage. This is a safe event, and security will be present to ensure this."

Wait, on Trans day of VISIBILITY they don't want to be visible???

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RJ Rambler's avatar

No they don't want you to see the children in attendence.

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CaplT's avatar

😱

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Karen Murphy's avatar

But they’ll be wearing masks..

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Why would you even WANT to see these freaks of nature? That "woman" is from the state I have lived in for most of my life and it sickens me to the core what "she" did to our state nursing home residents. I was thinking, when I can to be a "useless eater" I would have myself checked in to the PA state run Veterans nursing home, since my second hubby was a veteran. But, alas, that is NOT an option now--Levine put dangerously SICK COVID patients in with the healthy nursing home residents and the death stats in the PA state-run nursing homes were "off the charts". Soooo...I'll have to switch to "in home" care for as long as my extended care insurance holds out. Maybe my Creator God will take me home quickly--that's my fervant prayer.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know, it was truly evil what Levin did 😔

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

"She" is a despicable despot along the whole DEMONratic ludicrous "circus"!

Hey, "Running"--have you seen any LIVE interviews with Senator Fetterman? I cannot find any online and he "supposedly" walked out of Walter Reed yesterday and is "at home in Braddock" with his family.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I haven’t. I don’t have a TV though so would have to look for something online. Yeah I’m not sure I’m buying his ā€œrecovery.ā€

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Julie Ann B's avatar

WTH??? Who organized this event in KC?

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Donna in MO's avatar

The City of Kansas City. Just a few days before the primary election. Taxpayers of KC are screwed again. And yet people there keep voting D. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/trans-day-of-visibility-tickets-598609215277

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RunningLogic's avatar

šŸ¤£šŸ˜† Yeah now isn’t THAT ironic??! (Cue Alanis Morissette lol)

I’d love for someone to ask them your question and watch the reaction šŸ˜†

Clown world 🤔

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Donna in MO's avatar

Severe T-storms forecast for the start time, 3 PM. Hoping God rains down buckets on the outdoor event.

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Boudicca's avatar

Multiplier for the horned guy? Yes.

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YYR's avatar

Multiply for all J6 defendants. Bill Shipley (@Shipwreckedcrew) has a legal defense givensendgo. He also has a Stack.

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CitizenA's avatar

I read Bill Shipley’s tweets about Jacob Chansley’s case and I tried to read his substack- SHIPWRECKEDCREW but it was a subscription too high for me. I was able to read a few freebies there however. Anyway, Bill tells how incompetent Jacob’s lawyer was. And that he pushed Jacob to sign a plea deal where the government had to give up NOTHING, and Jacob got the shaft. He said that is unheard of. Did you read that as well???

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Kitkat's avatar

Jacob's new attorney was on Tucker a few weeks back. After the videos were shown. Talking about how horrible the previous lawyer was. I wonder if he was a public defender (with possibly some political bias), or just really incompetent.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I'd love us to multiply him and give him the name of a really good attorney so he can sue the heck out of them.

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Jon Swenson's avatar

"It’s okay, it’s not her fault. I blame the public school system, or, possibly, plastic surgery brain damage."

It is HER fault. She chooses to be stupid.

We need to stop making excuses for socialists.

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Anthony's avatar

She's being evil.

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Jon Swenson's avatar

That is still no excuse.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think that may have been sarcasm on the part of our esteemed host šŸ˜‰

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Crixcyon's avatar

I don't pay much attention to the Trump theater or the hunter laptop nonsense or the January 6 thing. I especially ignore what The Dummy is doing or what any democrats, liberals of leftists are saying. It's 98% BS and it takes too much effort to find the 2% that might skirt the realms of truth. The DC Swamp opera is so sickening and fruitless.

I don't dislike Russia, Putin or many of the people and places were are told to dislike or hate. I have more disdain for the US than anything. Actually, it's not the US as we once thought it was. We are in a transition to become Hades on earth. But then there are a select group of insane idiots that want the entire world as we know it gone, including most of humanity.

Anymore, if I wake up every morning and those around me that I love and care about wake up also, that's a victory in a sense.

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Jeff C's avatar

I hear what you are saying but I'd note there's a big difference between "disdain for the US" vs. "disdain for the US government". I would think nearly every commenter here would agree with the latter while hopefully still recognizing the tremendous benefits of living here compared to much else of the world. When we lose gratitude it's an ugly, slippery slope into the victim mentality.

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Donna in MO's avatar

And giving up is the easy button. As long as I have my freedom and a roof over my head I am going to fight.

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Karen Murphy's avatar

Agree. I think it’s time to emphasize that it’s not always R vs D’s; it’s the authoritarian govt vs the people.

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Irunthis1's avatar

I know what you mean. The more I read about what the US has done to interfere with democratic processes in other countries (by both parties) the more I realize that true evil is at work here. That it’s starting to come back on us is no surprise. We’d better hope that the butchers bill doesn’t come back on we the people who would have never agreed with any of these things. I pray every day that the worst thing that happens is that we are left all alone on our own to finally figure out that we have to fix our own problems first and stay the hell out of everyone else’s business. It’s probably too big of an ask.

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Daithi's avatar

Trump is just yet another diversion. Meanwhile, the UN/WHO continue their attempts to take over full control of your body; the banking system continues to take control of your money and tell you how to spend it; governments in all western nations continue to try to take control of what you see, read, and hear by internet censorship bills as they continue to spend money like there is no tomorrow; steal land from farmers (Holland) and push ahead with 15minute "Smart" cities., banning internal combustion engines, killing wildlife and marine life with wind farms, and more. All in the name of "it's only for your best interests".

The nightmare is far from over. It will get worse.

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Fla Mom's avatar

But he's not a distraction; he's a bait, to create another J6, while also boosting morale on their side, misinforming their side, and possibly, depending on how far gone justice is in this country, getting rid of the one guy who has tried to take them out and woken up the sleeping citizens, pretty much ever, sending a signal to those, like DeSantis, who are his chief rivals.

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