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Based Florida Man's avatar

Remember when our govt did more to stop the distribution of ivermectin and hydroxycloroquine than fetananyl?

Deb Dakken's avatar

Asked my dr to prescribe HCQ and her response was "Our governor won't let us." Six months later, I repeated the request to learn "Mercy Medical won't allow it". I go in to her in a month and will ask again. If I get the same response, it will be time to find a new health care provider as my supply will be low.

RunningLogic's avatar

So basically, your doctor is really not your doctor. You should say, “well I guess you’re not my doctor then, it’s really the governor and Mercy Medical. You’re just a tech following their orders.” I bet that would make them mad 😬

Kathy McCullough's avatar

Remember it is easy to make hydroxychloroquine even though fake news says it’s not the same... look it up and don’t forget about quercetin.

Ontological Shock's avatar

Yeah, and it will go into your medical record. "Non-compliant" or as I was told 5 years ago, "medication resistant". My PCP who has now moved on to be a vascular surgeon, could not believe the report that my physical therapist wrote about my 3 month stint. The fact that PT was one of the only truly helpful treatments I've ever had did not occur to her. She was shocked. I'm PCPless now and it feels good.

RunningLogic's avatar

I hate that. “Non-compliant.” Like you’re a toddler or something. Very revealing that it is not a collaboration but a hierarchical relationship. Which I completely disagree with and I think is detrimental to care and outcomes, not to mention dignity.

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Sarah Beth's avatar

Ohhh that’s a great comeback !

SYFY's avatar

My doc doesn't buy into all this masking/vaccination for covid crap either, but the place he works with will not let him prescribe either one so he can't write the script. This is the #1 reason why DeSantis should make it over-the-counter so people can actually get it. Insurance and medical conglomerates will not allow doctors to write those scripts.

Genevieve's avatar

I think Tennessee passed a law to allow Ivm to be sold over the counter. I don't understand why they beat us to it, when Florida is supposed to be the "free" state.

Roger Beal's avatar

Don't complain, if evidence suggests there is more than one "free" state. That, friend, is progress.

Lincoln's avatar

Doctors work for hospital systems

who get billions of $ of government Medicare money which means the government sets the rules and CDC says physicians must follow their protocol...kill ‘‘em with respirators and remdesivir and no ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Hospital systems fire or take away medical license of any who go outside CDC protocol. Hospital systems are not going to lose their cash government cow. Remember Covid jab received emergency approval because there WAS NO DRUG IN THE CDC PROTOCOL THAT WORKED.

Woody's avatar

HCQ shouldn't be an over the counter drug as it is not safe for eveyone.

Who should not take Hydroxychloroquine SULFATE?

The following conditions are contraindicated with this drug. Check with your physician if you have any of the following:

Conditions:

-low blood sugar

glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) deficiency

low amount of magnesium in the blood

- low amount of potassium in the blood

-porphyria

- anemia

- decreased blood platelets

- low levels of a type of white blood cell called neutrophils

- mental problems

- suicidal thoughts

- alcoholism

- myasthenia gravis, a skeletal muscle disorder

- maculopathy

changes in the visual field

- torsades de pointes, a type of abnormal heart rhythm

- prolonged QT interval on EKG

chronic heart failure

- abnormal EKG with QT changes from birth

- liver problems

- decreased kidney function

- psoriasis

- seizures

- anemia from pyruvate kinase and G6PD deficiencies

- chronic kidney disease stage 5 (failure)

Shellie Willmering's avatar

All of the OTC meds I've ever seen have written somewhere on the packaging or insert not to take if you have xxxx disease, etc. It also says to talk to your doctor before taking any medications. So, they all say stuff like this. HCQ and IVM are VERY safe for most everyone, but some it isn't. Same can be said for Aspirin.

FedUpInOR's avatar

And yet if you go to a country with malaria you’ll be handed it like Candy……

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CraigN's avatar

Skip asking the M.D. (mentally deficient) and order it from an online supplier in India. The majority of pharms are manufactured in countries other than the U.S. so, don't get too overly concerned about where it is shipped from. I have been buying my one pharm that I need from Canada for years now at about 25% the cost of the same thing purchased in the U.S.. Not sure why more people do not go outside the borders for pharm, but here is your chance to try it.

Jessica Libolt's avatar

Can you share your source? I’ve been a little afraid to buy IVM & HCQ out of India but I would like to have it on hand instead of relying on the horse paste 🤣

CraigN's avatar

Myself as well as other friends have had good experiences with this place over the years.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/

Shellie Willmering's avatar

I used ivermectin.com

It comes from India but ships from Tennessee or SC.

Tory77simplifyfocus's avatar

Agree, our source. However, one large order was labeled “lost” in tracking at NY distribution. Our bad luck, but next was fine. It was post office lost in USA. Hmmm.

TMJM's avatar

You can purchase Ivermectin in the US. I have purchased multiple times. He gets it from India. Totally legit. Fast shipping. Ships discreet. Have been happy every time. You can read all about it here. You can order a full box or half a box. https://www.ivermectin.com

KBH Geronimo's avatar

To order drugs from overseas pharmacies (like in Canada) you need a current prescription. Sometimes the wait is pretty long to receive them, but the prices are indeed considerably lower than in the U.S. on certain prescriptions.

CraigN's avatar

I always get a paper script so I can shop around. Yes, it does take several weeks to get your order filled. I didn't say this, but I usually have the script filled at several different pharmacies, so I have enough on hand when I am waiting for my order. Plus, since this is something that I am going to be on for life I don't have to incur an office visit charge just to get a script every year. 😉

Patricia Woodard's avatar

A friend of mine ordered from India and the DEA intercepted it!🤬

Based Florida Man's avatar

Happened to me also. Fortunately the order only had IVM.

The seller reshipped through Singapore, and I got it 3 weeks later.

My orders for HCQ, Flovoxomine etc had no problems. Just put the IVM on it's own order tho.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

I called 4 pharmacies in one city last week so can’t apply this to the entire state. I asked if they had OTC IVM. All said no.

The possibilities?

- They legit don’t have it

- They might have some in-person requirement to respond in the affirmative?

- They might deny having it and not mention the (possible) in-person requirement for requesting it?

- As @KatLee says, they might have a requirement for some form to be filled out and not mention such when a phone inquiry is made?

- Other?

I question not the intent of the new law (to make IVM available OTC) but the execution by pharmacies/pharmacists. Is there availability-fixing afoot? I don’t know. I just found it interesting -and frustrating- to hit a dead end.

KatLee's avatar

Yes. You have to fill out some form at the pharmacy and they’ll get it for you..

Joyce Linda's avatar

When I go back to my doctor next month (who wouldn't prescribe ivermectin because Advent would let him) I am going to remind him HE works for ME and I don't appreciate Advent dictating my choices of medication.

Lincoln's avatar

Joyce...good luck with that. My doctor also works for AdventHealth and says he cannot prescribe because CDC says so.

SO...unless you go to SOLE PRACTITIONER ...good luck.

Doctors work for hospital systems

who get billions of $ of government Medicare money which means the government sets the rules and CDC says physicians must follow their protocol...kill ‘‘em with respirators and remdesivir and no ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. Hospital systems fire or take away medical license of any who go outside CDC protocol. Hospital systems are not going to lose their cash government cow. Remember Covid jab received emergency approval because there WAS NO DRUG IN THE CDC PROTOCOL THAT WORKED.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Same here. I'm with Advent. I'm looking for a small practice. Also a compounding pharmacy. They'll fulfill IVM scripts.

Peace's avatar

My doc is with Advent - he is the only one in the large practice who is prescribing Ivermectin. When talking about the Ivm/Covid issue, he said, "What they're doing is criminal"

RunningLogic's avatar

Now THAT is a good doctor!!

Lindsay Moore's avatar

I left my doctor when she promoted an untested never before administered injection without doing her own research like a good little soldier. There’s your litmus test.

RunningLogic's avatar

I left my kids’ pediatrician when he prioritized “the community” over his patient. He wouldn’t give a mask exemption and didn’t even want to see, talk to, or examine my 10 year old son about his difficulties wearing a mask.

Corkey's avatar

Just go to FLCC website and get a Dr to write a script for it. F her

Bones's avatar

It was time to get a new healthcare provider a while ago don’t even bother going in

Perplexity's avatar

Michigan or CA is my guess.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

just told that yesterday to my dad in Europe. That story did not even make it across the ocean. Belgium has never heard of either med that could have saved people.

I looked it up more than a year ago and neither was available there, otherwise I would have ordered it and send to them.

Janet's avatar

My sister in Ireland who worked with horses sent me back in the day an insulting text laughing her arse off saying she had put gallons of horse paste up horses arses. And how stupid people were—insinuating me. She had No idea what she was yapping about but what her radio (she doesn’t have a tv.) told her and her precious Guardian newspaper paper. She still buys it all. Bless her but sometimes I’m glad she is there and not here in USA.

Fla Mom's avatar

The joke's on her, imho - we in the U.S. put it in our horses' *mouths.*

Janet's avatar

I know. But that’s what she said. Maybe a different preparation there. . I turned her off for awhile after that. But then she is often on morphine or god knows what else for back pain. She has changed considerably.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

i ordered the pill form but have not had to use it so far. My dog takes it. I just open the capsule and put the powder in her food.

RunningLogic's avatar

That’s hilarious, it’s like saying don’t take Prozac because dogs can take it 🙄 I want to start calling that “dog antidepressant” like they call ivermectin “horse dewormer.” Does she think the people in Africa who take it are all idiots too, then? Racist 😛

this little authoritarian's avatar

Let's not miss the fact that these folks would happily take paxlovid, which is a protease inhibitor...just like IVM! Although, IVM does more like binding with spike proteins and prevents hemaglutination too.

Janet's avatar

I have the same antibiotics I have taken for myself in my cabinet that were for my cats. Like I said—years of painkillers messed with her brain. She used to man the protest barricades in Dublin back in the 80’s. Gave the finger to government, wrote letters to the editor. But the Covid scam did something to her—like millions of others. I quit saying anything but cross my fingers she doesn’t become a statistic of the current horror.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Ireland has disgraced itself -- and I'm a citizen.

Man-i's avatar

its unfathomable what these governments have done to their own people. I live in NJ USA and the NJ state gov is one of the most venal corrupt groups. Im a MD with over 20 years of experience. I have a group of people that think like we do all docs, scientists and nurses and we all tried to meet the NJ state health commissioner and she refused repeatedly

Sophia's avatar

Ireland is not alone in that.

That fact doesn't make me feel any better.

Michael A. Stilinovich's avatar

Half of the human race has. Devastating. They joined "The Good Germans".

Sophia's avatar

I bet she'd be willing to take Molnupiravir in a sec.

Never mind that Molnupiravir is horse medicine.

STH's avatar

Ok so now the Babbit mom story has another side to it. It’s being hashed out on Twatter right now. 🤷‍♀️

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Swedecelt's avatar

Lucky to be in Sweden! I know it has its problems, but my daughter fell in love with it when she lived there, first in Angelholm for high school exchange, and then Lund when she was in Uni. We visited a few times, and I really loved it. Of course I am slightly biased since my great grandfather came from Tvaaker near Varberg to the US in 1901. :)

Flavia's avatar

I will never forget

Sarah Beth's avatar

Yes I do! I live in California and you pretty much had to bootleg the product through another state and stash it for safekeeping -- even my very bright and successfully talented sister questioned why I would even consider taking horse de wormer for Covid.

Freedom35's avatar

https://capforcanada.com/was-apotex-owner-barry-sherman-murdered-for-interfering-in-big-pharma-profits/

Apotex Inc, Canada’s largest pharmaceutical company, was founded by Mr. Sherman in 1974. The sole manufacturer of hydroxychloroquine in the country, Sherman’s company offered to donate two million dosages of the medication to the Trudeau government as a potential remedy for the Covid pandemic.

Joyce Linda's avatar

When I caught covid for the second time (the first was in Dec. of 2019 and I didn't know what it was) my doctor was not ALLOWED by the hospital he was associated with to provide ivermectin (although he previously told me he would) because the alternative was free. I can't remember what it was because when I told my daughter what he was prescribing she (an ER nurse) told me not to take it so I didn't. I recovered faster than my twice-jabbed and once boostered friend.

Man-i's avatar

its criminal ... all politics and the hospitals getting paid off by health and human services

FourWinds's avatar

Yep. My nephew overdosed and died on fentanyl. No one outside our family gave a damn.

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FourWinds's avatar

My nephew, Shaun, used cocaine, which was unknowingly laced with fentanyl. The latter killed him. Our family tried for years and spent literally thousands of dollars on therapy, rehab, etc. but Shaun had the same mental illness as another family member and was unable to help himself. The night he died, I had a nightmare. I can't remember what about, but I woke up and was terrified that someone was hurt. In my daze, I thought it was one of my animals, so I checked them all and when they were fine. His mother also woke up and told her husband that Shaun was at her front door. Her husband checked but of course he was not there. My brother also had a dream that Shaun was trying to call him. I think as he was dying, he was trying to call out to all of us in spirit, but none of us got the message clearly. The next morning, I was on FB and my brother posted that he had died. My knees gave out and I collapsed on the kitchen floor. That was 6 years and 7 months ago and it has never gotten easier.

My nephew didn't want to die. He battled addiction for years but wanted a future. People have a vision of drug users as low life scumballs who are weak minded and who want to hurt themselves.... that they could just stop if they only tried harder. I guess I used to think that way, too, but after watching Shaun try over and over and over and over to heal and not be able to, I saw things differently. I still miss him and always will, and I'm sorry that this all came out as a response to your post, but sometimes I still need to talk about it. Thanks for listening.

Peace's avatar

I'm so sorry that your family has gone through this tragedy. So many families have dealt with the death of a loved one due to the fentanyl debacle. I personally know three family friends who are/have dealt with this - one young person overdosed and died this past year, one young person has been hospitalized twice in a near-death situation due to 1. overdosing/2. car crash while high, and one young person who is currently stabilized but he is in the vast minority. Heartbreaking, each and every one.

Perplexity's avatar

I'm so sorry for your loss, FourWinds.

Mary H.'s avatar

Sadly, It’s still happening.

Harold Saive's avatar

(Dr. David Martin except) The same people making billions of dollars getting people addicted to opioids held the patent on a non-addictive opioid formula so that no company could be licensed to produce the non-addictive formula. This live EUA was active in 2019. If Trump was serious about saving humanity he could have made an Emergency Use Authorization forcing production of the non-addictive opioid formula. But instead, on September 19, 2019 Trump signed an executive order (written by the Drug Dealers) that mandates a vaccine urgent platform at a time when no pandemic was on the horizon. - https://groups.google.com/g/town-square-news/c/nd7O64G5_7k/m/5tKNeb3_BgAJ

Man-i's avatar

That s an interesting point, I 've read and studied quite about about what purdue and the sackler family did with oxycontin. Once that EUA was passed it became like a military operation and no dissent was tolerated. Its been horrific and useless and now we have a mass casualty event

Harold Saive's avatar

Layers of deception exposed

Man-i's avatar

i know many people assume that this whole thing was planned from the beginning. but Im not so sure. assuming that is too easy. It implies that there is a group or person to blame. but what if this is another example of what Hannah arendt called the banality of evil. All of us have become so complacent , pampered, comfortable , we've allowed the growth of the state to such a degree that politics has worked its way into every aspect of our lives.

THe proper gov reponse to covid was no response. All the things gov did that actually helped involved gov getting out of the way. Like allowing hospitals to hire out of state nurses, allowing GM to make ventilators, allowing distilleries to make hand sanitizer.

The growth of gov and state bureaucracy enabled this whole situation. The CDC and NIH have no reason to exsist, neither are justified under the constitution. The gov is not there to see to our health or provide healthcare or insurance. gov only ligit function is to protect rights and property

The Fifster's avatar

Yes check I remember and they still do!

RU's avatar

I still think this constitutes a crime against humanity, as they denied effective treatment for a treatable illness, which caused people to die. Probably most covid deaths were due to this lack of treatment. All to gain emergency use authorization for the gene therapies.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil. Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass. — 1 Thessalonians 5:21-24 NASB1995

daiva's avatar

From Imo Essien’s collapse comments ↓↓

🗨 They crying cause they know, it's in their system now... they could be next... any minute.... We warned, and warned and warned...

Pthalocyanine's avatar

yep. you can't get un-"vaccinated"

JW's avatar

Maybe that will be the next big pharma cash cow...an antidote for the covid vax.

HeatherSXfan's avatar

Seriously thinking that's what the Feds were doing at Hamlin's hospital room. They created it, don't assume they didnt create an antidote as well.

CaplT's avatar

You can rebuild your immune system but they wouldn’t know about that either.

And if the have myocarditis or other heart condition, no more sports paycheck.

Life matters.

Annie's avatar

They were thinking Damar. 😔

Martha's avatar

I can't believe Essien didn't get evaluated immediately! Deferring a cardiac evaluation ~ 🤦‍♀️.

GoodGrief-239's avatar

I know, right? That’s what the young lady HS flag football player did...deferred cardiac evaluation...that was going to be her last game until she got evaluated, except she died during that game.

But how come they went straight to ‘he needs a heart evaluation’ I wonder 🤔

Harold Saive's avatar

I suspect coaches and school boards are getting the message on DIED SUDDENLY and quietly re-writing or "re-imagining" policy to avoid bad press and possible prosecution.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

It is. Heartbreaking. They all are.

New2Florida's avatar

Surely mild myocarditis 🤦‍♂️

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FourWinds's avatar

That man is so incredibly evil. Certainly the most evil man who has been on this planet in my lifetime.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and no way to undo either. Who knows if all these protocols to cleanse your system work.

Alison Smith's avatar

How can you cleanse your system of the clumps and stringy things that are in the vaccinated blood? I don’t think you can.

Based Florida Man's avatar

I guess you have to wait for the Coroner to pull them out.

Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Once you get the large clumps, you're done. And sooner rather than later.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I don't think so either. It is in there and it stays there until, like Florida Man says, the coroner pulls it out.

Chevrus's avatar

Ok, how's about do-overs.

Annie's avatar

And why wasn't that young man taken to the hospital? I get he received medical attention but you would think he should receive more in depth observation. But maybe not going to the hellspitals was a good thing since you have a higher chance of one of their protocols killing you.

Name Redacted's avatar

I know that individuals can't sue the vaccine manufacturers, but can we sue the universities for requiring the shot (since apparently they did not all have to require the shot)?

Based Florida Man's avatar

That Hawaiian MMA gal, Victoria Lee, 18, was KO’d by the Grim Reaper... LOL but sad.

What's the covid death rate for her demographic? Uh, zero?

But they force the shots on these kids. An absolute mass crime!

AngelaK's avatar

So sad for the family.

OnTheJump's avatar

It is freakin' horrible - failure to complete an autopsy on an 18 year old, clearly fit as all hell - or anyone with similar circumstance - is simply an admission that they do NOT want to know anything.

Least of all, the truth.

And we all know how it works here, but to anyone new to the Covid & Coffee posts, "just tuning in to see how those anti-vaxxers spew mis/disinformation" - NO ONE here is laughing or making fun of the ghastly, sad deaths that we are seeing EVERYwhere............ but THAT is the point - they ARE happening everywhere, and we'd love someone/ANYONE cast a concerned eye in their general direction. Soon.

NOW !

Iron Horsey's avatar

Sure she was in the 0% risk category but think of how useful she was in the human experiment.

How did these bastards get past the Hippocratic Oath with this?

Julie Ann B's avatar

Sadly the Hippocratic Oath as I knew it is long gone.

Bones's avatar

Now it’s the hypocrisy obligation

RunningLogic's avatar

It’s really awful 😞

The Train!'s avatar

Unfortunately, two athletes going down on national TV within a week of each other may be what's needed to wake up the normies.

Curtis's avatar

I'm not optimistic that we're out of the woods yet. To the normies, these are still rare incidents, while we've been watching this for a long time. Brace yourself for versions of; "I knew someone who died suddenly long before the vaxx." Personally, my dentist dropped dead of a heart attack at 43 back in the late '90s.... Plus, accepting that they've injected themselves with a slow-kill bio-weapon is going to be a hard pill to swallow....

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Not to mention the fact that millions of those "normies'" sole source of so-called news are the alphabet legacy media, and those media have lied and suppressed actual news and data nonstop for three years and continue to lie and suppress actual news and data.

I mean, consider how many people think they're informed because of what they read/see/hear from Farcebook, YouTube, Old Twitter, Google searches, LinkedIn, ad nauseam, ALL sources that have deliberately and repeatedly suppressed and censored any information contrary to The Regime's preferred narrative.

We have a lot of stupid, uninformed, ill-informed, ignorant people in America, and the sources that made them stupid, uninformed, ill-informed, and ignorant are STILL doing the things that made them that way. Almost nothing has changed in that regard over the past 3 years, save the emergence of New Twitter. Everything else chugs along unimpeded.

Annie's avatar

My girlfriend just told me she has inflamed blood vessels, or something like that- it is causing her a lot of pain, and something they are checking on in regards to her aorta. Yep. She's vaxxed and boostered. I held my tongue regarding the vaxx. No sense upsetting her further and what good would it do. 😔

Based Florida Man's avatar

Plus... she knows. Hard to deny it anymore.

Vicki's avatar

There is a test for Myocarditis, she can get. Dr. DeMello knows what it is called.

Junebug's avatar

Maybe you could recommend her looking at: therealdrjudy.com (Judy Mikovits) website. She has a learning tab that might help save her life.

Irunthis1's avatar

True story. I also had a friend who dropped dead at 54 from a widow maker heart attack in ‘19. Same thing that killed his dad so no one was surprised. It DID happen *rarely* but to MEN at least in their 40’s who were mostly not healthy specimens. Not in their 20’s, elite athletes at their peak with yearly health checkups by team doctors *looking* for genetic heart problems. These people are smokin something if they think it’s all normal. I also wonder if these team doctors are not providing the best possible peek at these guys heart health.

kr's avatar

But you know, Mark twain said it’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled!

We have much work to do to convince all these Vaxxed people that perhaps they were fooled!!!! That Perhaps our government was full of lies!

CMCM's avatar

I'm 73 and have been watching and reaching news for a long time now, since my early teens. Yes, here and there a high school football player would die suddenly on the field. It was very rare, though. I have NEVER experienced such a tsunami of sudden deaths...especially of athletes. Young healthy and fit athletes. Day after day now, news reports are full of these sudden events. It's astounding how many there are. I can tell you it was NOT like this before at any time I can remember. It wasn't happening. Sudden deaths were occasional, and shocking because they were so relatively rare. Doesn't everyone notice this??

UnvaxxedCanadian's avatar

Canadian normies are still living in a media world where reality is what they say it is and we would all be dead without the all mighty vax.

No cracks in CDN media at all. Obedience is virtue.

Bones's avatar

How did Canada get so destroyed?

Freebird's avatar

Curtis, you’re right. Nobody wants this wake-up pill.

Chevrus's avatar

There sure are alotta mental AND emotional gymnastics going on! Whoops! Look another Loop!! Seriously though, dark times. If I'm lucky I'll get to....oh never mind.

Julie Ann B's avatar

I’ve heard that already

Chevrus's avatar

Ditto. Even last year.

Me: ...but a 500% increase?!

Her: That happens all the time.

Copium

STH's avatar

Still justifying

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

I might argue that the "normies" cannot be woken up, because they've *chosen* to be where they are. They're not there out of ignorance, because there's enough evidence to dispel ignorance. No, they're where they are by deliberate (if subconscious, if that makes sense) choice.

As Thomas Sowell observed (paraphrased), "you cannot reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

Sunnydaze's avatar

I’ve said this for a while…. people are choosing to stay ignorant at this point.

PamelaZelie's avatar

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” – Martin Luther King Jr.

Chevrus's avatar

Willful Ignorance is a helluva drug

Politico Phil's avatar

Now there is a truth that needs to have it's own separate category labeled for recognition.

Curtis's avatar

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are, so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." Morpheus, "The Matrix", (1999)

Based Florida Man's avatar

And Vegas odds say more are coming.

Scott Kinghorn's avatar

Very few are waking up. I now know two people who've got numbness in various parts of their body with profound weakness. Unable to exercise and such. The guy is blaming covid and woman is praying it isn't MS. Both are denying the experiment has anything to do with their conditions. I suspect we'll be seeing more stuff like this.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

It's a religion now. Unfalsifiability (not a word, I know) in reverse.

No matter WHAT happens, it is NOT and never will be the poison shots. For example, if ALL bad weather is caused by climate change, then nothing is. It's just a faith-based position. So if NOTHING bad is EVER caused by the experimental untested clot shots, then everything is. It's just a faith-based position.

VeryVer's avatar

Yeah. My sister now has some kind of neurological problem in her legs, can barely feel them or walk. Doctors are stumped of course.

Julie Ann B's avatar

I watched the Packers/Lions game last night and was worried the entire time wondering if we would witness another cardiac arrest like last weekend. Professional football will never be the same.

LMWC's avatar

Dr Peter McCullough was on the Highwire last week. His thoughtful analysis as a cardiologist leading the fight was appreciated. He said Hamlin had an excellent chance of recovery. He knew he was stable when the ambulance stopped at the tunnel to let his mother ride to the hospital with him. If he had still been in active cardiac arrest that would not have happened. He also said coding for a second time happens in 50% of these types of attacks.

He did raise the question of why the public can’t be informed of his jab status. There was another player on his team who did not take the shot. If Hamlin had not and this had happened, McCullough surmised it would have been all over the news. He also said the looks on his fellow player’s faces told the tale. He said they were ashen and they looked frightened. Likely they knew or suspected what was happening.

The fact that they keep releasing pictures of Hamlin looking progressively better is purposeful. While everyone wants this young man to recover completely, we also want questions answered. This is camouflage for now, until they can move us along and hope only “conspiracy theorists” keep asking.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

"He also said the looks on his fellow player’s faces told the tale. He said they were ashen and they looked frightened. Likely they knew or suspected what was happening."

Another bad take of his, IMO.

I seriously doubt the poison shots were on their minds. It's quite likely that NONE of them had ever seen a player administered CPR on the playing field, and for NINE minutes, and that NONE of them had ever seen a player DFIBbed on the playing field. They were seeing, they thought, a fellow player dying in front of them. THAT is why they were ashen at that moment; not because they were thinking, "oh, it's the jab...am I next?"

I don't doubt that LATER on they may be thinking, "was it the jab?" But on the field, while a player is being CPR'd and DFIB'd in front of them, it was the likelihood that he was dying or dead that had them frightened.

LMWC's avatar

Have to disagree on every point. I have been following Dr McCullough since later 2020. He is one of a handful of doctors who questioned the whole covid narrative being pushed. He questioned why ivermectin was not being routinely used in CoVid cases as a first line of treatment. He is a renowned cardiologist who knows what cardiac arrest looks like and has been on the forefront with myocarditis explosion. I disagree that they allowed his mother in the ambulance only because he was dead. That was my first thought when they carted him off but several other posters agreed that if he was dead they would not have worked on him so long, they would immediately have gotten him off the field. Dr McCullough also addressed the second coding in the hospital as happening 50% of the time. I personally in watching pro football, (and I don’t watch much), have seen two cases of gruesome head injuries and broken and dislocated legs, so sorry, I don’t believe that their ashen faces were because they had never seen anything like this. I am now going to wait and see what happens. If he goes completely from sight, I will ask questions, but this won’t stop what is happening and the connection needs to be made with the death jabs.

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"He knew he was stable when the ambulance stopped at the tunnel to let his mother ride to the hospital with him."

I think that was either a bad take, or Monday morning quarterbacking (no pun intended).

Hamlin suffered a *second* heart attack at the hospital, so I think it's a huge stretch to say he was "stable" when the ambulance let his mother into the vehicle. I could plausibly argue that they let her into the vehicle so that she would be by his side when he died (that is, that they expected him to die or it was at least a very real possibility at that point in time, so let mom in to say goodbye to her son).

I think McCullough is making this one up to make himself sound good, to sound like the outlier who knew all along how it would turn out.

Woody's avatar

Hope the Bills medical staff have reviewed the batch lot number and have put those players with same as Hamlin's on the injured list. Should a SADS event occur, it will be much simpler to handle off-season than in front of millions of viewers.

PamelaZelie's avatar

I came into the room and saw my husband watching football. Asked him if anyone had died yet??

Freebird's avatar

PamelaZelie - it may be just a matter of time...

Peace's avatar

Fauci - several comments earlier - let the new narrative out of the bag - by saying the myocarditis from the virus is much worse than myocarditis from the shot. That'll be the new spin. And I'd like to see the studies he's getting his info from.

CMCM's avatar

That's pure B.S. Fauci and for that matter all his friends lie with utter impunity. Pretty much all the time. Whatever he says, the opposite is more likely the truth.

kr's avatar

But they all say it is just a coincidence!! nothing to see here!

Kim's avatar

Apparently I’m not woke enough to know that Ohana is woke. I’m from Hawaii and I’ve always know it to mean family. But what do I know I am a middle aged women. I guess the wokeelites have turned it into something more 🙄🤷‍♀️😱🤪

Pthalocyanine's avatar

It's just been co-opted to try to make the communist "stakeholder" concept seem cool and new. sorry - the Left likes to mess with cultures and never gets called out so they will not lose a night's sleep over messing with your perfectly good word.

Freebird's avatar

They change the meaning of words all the time.

Chevrus's avatar

Pandemic

Herd Immunity

Altered as well.

Annie's avatar

Yeah. From mandates to universal. Wordspeak, doublespeak and just plain lying.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Inflation too. It’s not what it used to be 😂

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

you know they have a dictionary of their own. New definition of lots of common words these days. It is hard to communicate if you are not sure what the other party means with Science, Woman, etc.

Deb Dakken's avatar

I think it may have started with Clinton not being able to understand "is"... ;)

Donna in MO's avatar

Exactly. The word 'diversity' has been totally co-opted too.

Flipflopgirl's avatar

Well the woke dictionary has taken over Webster's Dictionary, which is deemed to be racist. So all the words have new meanings.

Terry C's avatar

Disney's "Lilo and Stitch" introduced "Ohana" to many of us. The repeated line in the movie was that it means family, and family means no one left behind as the two sisters tried to stay together and later to keep Stitch as part of their family. OF COURSE people have had to change all that now.

Anthony's avatar

What's interesting is the woke people get mad when people use the term "tribal knowledge" which is a typical term used in the tech industry to indicate knowledge we tell each other orally to learn our products, but they have no issue with the "cultural appropriation" of Hawaiian terms like "Ohana".

daiva's avatar

🗨 I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly. ~~Michel de Montaigne

🤷

PS On slightly philosophical note, consistency features nowhere among habitual human traits 😝

daiva's avatar

💬 🙄🤷‍♀️😱🤪

Presactly 👌 I guess many are cycling through the emotional spectrum you so deftly depicted. Again & again & once more non-stop, no relief in sight 🤦

A Andersen's avatar

Me too. I grew up in Hawaii in the '60s and no one used the word Ohana. But when I returned for visits during 2009-13, a classmate referred to his home as his Ohana, like it means family home. But also, between the '60s and now, many of the Hawaiian place names adopted apostrophes in them like O'ahu instead of Oahu. I don't know why or when. I guessed I missed the meeting. But its annoying. I get it though. It's a "decolonization" thing. Back to the more indigenous spellings.

CynicalCuteness's avatar

It probably originated from the movie LILO and Stitch. A quote from the movie is “Ohana means family and family means no one gets left behind.” Most likely the current generation of young adults watched that movie multiple times.

Flavia's avatar

They truly ruined the word for me...

sheiksan's avatar

Yes I am also kama’aina and Ohana (which translates “family”) has always been a positive term. I don’t see that it has been hijacked for nefarious purposes.

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Kim's avatar

I grew up on Oahu and still have family there. They are ruining the true meaning of the word because they never had a true Ohana to know what it means.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

I support a Universal effort to disband and dissolve the CDC, and to imprison its top executives.

RunningLogic's avatar

I would be 100% on board with that!!

ThinkForYourself's avatar

Thank you for all the facts and commentary. A complete collapse of COVId narrative would be awesome in 2023.

Have a blessed day!

Kristin H's avatar

Let’s see the collapse on the field of All Covid Narratives (lies)! That’s the public death I’m waiting for!

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

i wonder if Obama did all that testing in his 600 person tent. Obviously the testing is only for us, plebs. The high ups don't need testing, after all they did not take the real jabs either, did they? They almost pressed the poison on the people knowing it was a dangerous thing, and they went on partying as usual, with our money, and employed a very expensive clown from ukraine to entertain them.

Annie's avatar

Yeah. That CDC party invitation is a big red flag to not go. You will be surrounded by wokesters and covidiots. Not my idea of a good time. 😄

Kathy McCullough's avatar

They can’t even spell Toolkit 🙄

Flavia's avatar

Republican committee's are kind of a joke as well. Remember Fast n Furious? Remember Benghazi? Yeah. Good times. Nothing happened.

Janet's avatar

Yup. I was red pilled in 2021. I’m old. I’ve seen enough over the years to not hold my breath on any of it. Dems will just use it as more whip the base into a frenzy. I’ve been there. I hear it already. It’s all a toothless freak show on both sides to divide, lie and conquer. Even if motives are serious. But gotta try I guess. Congress is just a 🤡 world to me. A dangerous one. Sorry.

Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Hoping and praying that we at least get some dissension in the ranks. There were 20 hold outs after all...this could be the start of something positive. We’ll soon see....

Janet's avatar

There could be a change in the wind. God, I hope so. God is still in charge. I’m sure I still have some long standing biases to overcome from my past. The trans thing is especially horrifying as I have a trans grandkid teen. Now I know the grooming involved and the on the take the psychologists and trans medical and political complex encouraging it. I am sure it has come from the mental illness of Asperger’s so why was that not addressed? A confounding effect? It’s too late now but there may be a rude awakening in her future. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

RJ Rambler's avatar

Mental illness of Asperger's? Please be very careful and aware of how and when you use that term. 😭

Chevrus's avatar

Well when you put it THAT way!

Based Florida Man's avatar

Someone captured a copy of the Facebook group Died Suddenly News, which was deleted by Facebook truth censors. https://dinmakt.no/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=1729#p1729

It's a long list of very sad discussions but interesting to see the reports.

SadieJay's avatar

Holy crap...I thought I was the only one seeing my limited circle having problems. If everyone knows someone who had bad reactions or death then this is...it is just...well, I have no words.

Chevrus's avatar

Yup. Anecdotals are flooding in. I'm starting to crumble.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Speaking of "Anecdotals," have you seen this: https://youtu.be/t36HntCJf6Y

JW's avatar

Still on FB. You just have to use alternate words for the shot in discussions like "carrot" or "sandwich".

Jaye's avatar

Or cupcake, or unicorn farts or...

Based Florida Man's avatar

The covid death carrot. Nice!

VanLife Views's avatar

I saw all the carrots 🥕

What was the sandwich pertaining to

FourWinds's avatar

There's a new page on FB that goes by a similar name but added the word Backup. I'm on it and it is so hard to read. Very depressing. Everyone has to talk in code to keep the group from being taken down, like instead of saying he got the vax you might say he ate the cherries or drank the juice or something totally random. It's hard to read at times, but believe me, it's a real eye opener. We are not alone.

JW's avatar

It really is hard to read. So much grief and heartache. It sickens me how this can be happening so covertly.

Kitkat's avatar

This FB group is still up and has 34k followers. It's usually shadow-banned so you have to search for updates. They don't just show up on your timelines. https://www.facebook.com/diedsuddenly

Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks for the link. It's working! Able to read it without an account.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

I wish there were even ONE actual journalist in the world who would ask McCarthy, "Why did this need to be a demand of the Freedom Caucus and a negotiated item? Why weren't you on board with this from the get-go???"

"A proposed subcommittee to investigate “weaponization” of the federal government — a key demand of “chaos caucus” conservatives who delivered the gavel to Speaker Kevin McCarthy" ~ this is among the reasons why I think McCarthy with be a sht Speaker for the next 2 years.

Iron Horsey's avatar

Why not ask why no one is investigating the jabs, the maiming and deaths? It's not even on the list for consideration.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Oh for sure, there's a host of questions that would be being asked if we had an honest, functioning press rather than presstitutes working as propaganda arms of the Democrat Party.

MOMinator's avatar

I guess the CDC is changing words other than universal instead of mandatory...

Now it’s tookit instead of toolkit! 😂

Based Florida Man's avatar

Definitions keep changing to keep up the fraud and the lies...

KGer's avatar

Which is why I’m always so disappointed when a liars pants don’t catch fire…..specifically the 🪳Fauci! He doesn’t remember anything, he’s got a terminal case of the I don’t remembers.

Curtis's avatar

Good catch. It really makes you wonder who writes this crap.... Call me a grammar Nazi, but I cringe whenever I see such sloppiness in purported "professional" publications ...

Fla Mom's avatar

It's a hint that it's not from the real CDC, as those publications go through such repetitive, meticulous review before release that it can be frustrating, as it takes forever and is a highly bureaucratic process that often reduces the products to bland pap. This is from The People's CDC, which expresses what they wish the real CDC would do.

MOMinator's avatar

Or the real CDC is doing, under cover of “The People’s CDC”?

CraigN's avatar

Here is more on those idiots at 'The People's CDC'. Not sure which 'people's ' they might be referring to but it's not my people.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-activism/the-case-for-wearing-masks-forever

SadieJay's avatar

TOOK IT. TOOL KIT. Hmmm. They can't be that wicked smart, can they?

SadieJay's avatar

I agree!! Especially when it is an important article or point, but the grammar is so bad it takes away all the cred.

Molly with 3 dogs's avatar

It's not from the CDC. It's from the People's CDC. Very different.

SadieJay's avatar

It was totally hysterical. Literally and figuratively!

J Kaz's avatar

And our tax dollars pay for this crap

Molly with 3 dogs's avatar

No, they don't. It's from The People's CDC. Different.

SadieJay's avatar

Yes...I just wrote below. Hmmm. TOOK IT. TOOL KIT. They can't be such wicked smartie pants to make the double entendre, can they?

Peace's avatar

"tookit" definition - "Have you been vaccinated?" "Yeah, I tookit." Btw, Jeff has updated that the party post was not the CDC but some pro mask group.

Donna in MO's avatar

I'd like to hope the Amazon layoffs were due to the massive number of conservatives boycotting the platform due to their cancellation of Parler in the aftermath of the 2020 election, but sadly, probably not. I have only made 2 purchases on there since Jan 2021, both items I could not find anywhere else. Oh and bought a book from Abe Books and it came in Amazon packaging, sigh, guess they use Amazon for fulfillment.

M VARR's avatar

It has to have an effect.

Donna in MO's avatar

Well I used to buy from them about every other week, it was the 'easy button' for stuff I could not find in stores, have learned to find other sources or make other choices for the most part. But surprised how many of my hard core conservatives friends just shrug off my suggestion to break their AMZ ties, excuses from 'it's cheaper' to 'I'm addicted'.

New2Florida's avatar

Is this Dr. Malone in a (anti-woke) rap music video?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_tXQo1yz0o

Jeff if you’re looking for a fun last piece for some newsletter, I may have found it.

Peace's avatar

Reminds me of this "Demotivator" video with tips about how to "disconfirm" your underlings. Truly cringe worthy - I saw it years ago and am reminded of it often with all the hand sanitizing currently in use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpbpx3j0EdU

RunningLogic's avatar

That is awesome, thanks for sharing!!

Marsali S.'s avatar

Thanks for sharing that!

Sunnydaze's avatar

I wish I could be more optimistic that everyday people are seeing all these athletes, news people, kids, etc that are dropping with heart attacks and such, but they aren’t seeing it. WE see it because we are looking. WE know it because we are paying attention. WE are convinced by it because we don’t watch mainstream media garbage.

But the others….. they still don’t see/know/are convinced because msm refuse to tell them. Word/videos are only yet being squeezed out little by little with as much force to keep a lid on it as possible. We have a long way to go. The nfl player has already been swept under the rug and chalked up to a hard hit that WE know is laughable, but the regulars bought hook, line and sinker. The nation came together and waved #3 jersey in full support of his healing (without enough discussion about why) much the same way they waved the Ukraine flag and kept the checkbook open to them. Hard to be optimistic yet at this point.

N Springer's avatar

Every time I talk to my mom I’m surprised by what she doesn’t know. But I guess if you aren’t looking and you are content to be spoon fed the narrative that’s all you know. At least my mom says no more jabs after 3.

Sunnydaze's avatar

That’s what led me to post this. Everyday people that I talk to have no idea the large numbers of people dying for no reason.

My nephew who is military just called from overseas. Is hospitalized with a sudden onset of something that is requiring 3 surgeries and it all happened in 72 hours. I knew it was jab related as soon as he told me. Sure enough we looked it up and it is listed as a jab side effect. Extremely rare unless you’ve been jabbed I guess. 🙄 I haven’t even went there with my nephew yet as he is still in the thick of it. But I will be having that discussion as soon as he’s out of the woods. 😞 and they forced him to take that damn jab.

RunningLogic's avatar

Worse, they are actively denying that the jabs could even possibly be a factor. The propaganda is an all out effort.