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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Thanks for sharing that link - I need more than 24 hours in a day to read all the stuff that interests me. I'll get to that one asap. Cheers

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Suzanne's avatar

So true!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Too true!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Remember the post on the big four? Ascorbic acid, sodium bicarbonate, iver and fenben? (back in May or June). I have all four in my house. Also--I was careful to read the footnotes on those posts.

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Emumundo's avatar

Would you post this link? I missed it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Cannot do copy on this laptop--my apologies--just go back to 2nd Smartest and look through the topics for May and June

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Deni's avatar

Thanks, but I'll pass on anything manufactured by Merck. Why so many are jumping on the Big Pharma bandwagon as if it's not, is beyond me... there ARE natural alternatives ...

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Thanks, BFM, just ordered ivermectin and fenbendazole. With my emergency food stash and these meds I am ready for the next globalist Psy-op.

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Deni's avatar

Thanks, but I'll pass on anything manufactured by Merck. Why so many are jumping on the Big Pharma bandwagon as if it's not, is beyond me... there ARE natural alternatives ...

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bebevan's avatar

Where do you order from?

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Virex Health. I think Based Florida Man had the link in his post.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

2nd Smartest Guy offers option at bottom of every single post. Virex.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Where did you get Ivermectin and fenbendazole?

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Virex Health online. I think Based Florida Man had the exact link in his post.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Handy to have!

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bebevan's avatar

I am 62 and was wondering what supplements should I be taking - should I be taking ivermectin? I fast - got off track this summer some but back on and in generally good health - a little overweight- Not on any medications - this information is so interesting and so important- thank you for sharing.

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rolandttg's avatar

D3 with K2 (200 mg for the latter) - 5000IU summer, 10,000IU fall and spring, 15,000 winter.

2-3 grams of liposomal C, spread out

natokinase 2000 FU's

curcumin. 1000 mg

E , tocotrienols, 134 mg

NAC 600mg

calcium ~ 1200 mg

Magnesium L - Threonate !000 mg

zinc- 25 mg

selenium- 200 mg.

Plenty more, but this is a great starting point. Quantities may vary depending...

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Crixcyon's avatar

For astonishing heart health, I would recommend high potency cayenne tincture. This would be 160,000/200,00 heat units for about $15 a bottle that will last at least 6 months.

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rolandttg's avatar

PS

Nattokinase and NAC are for protection against jab shedding, and also a key part of the protocols for people who have been jabbed.

Also, buy quality supplements, as all supplements are Not created equal. Health Ranger, Joseph Mercola, Thorne, and some others.

I left off iodine, 125 mg, and a quality B multivitamin, which are both very important, but equally difficult to find. Even Joseph Mercola's is lacking in the quality of some of the B's. The only one that is not is part of Dr. Tennant's very expensive Restore supplement, which we both take. if you are willing to go for it, his supplement package is second to none.

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AngelaK's avatar

Careful of the calcium! It is made from rock and wont prevent or help osteoporosis. You need to try algae calcium. The formulas come with d3 and k and boron. Women have sworn it has increased their bone density on their next dexascans.

I am taking it since a foot stress fracture revealed I have osteoporosis. My feet were actually feeling quite frail a year ago.

Ofcourse my pcp is pushingbthose horrible poison meds. I researched and researched. ..This formula plus daily collagen peptides. I am not due for a dexa scan for another year, but I can feel the dufference in my feet.

Iused to to take regular rock calcium with d3. My bone density just got worse! No doctor mentioned or seems to know about k being necessary in the mix.

I also try to eat cheese and yogurt daily as well for the remaining calcium. (my algae calcium supplement is 800 mg calcium).

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Cecilia's avatar

I believe selenium should be microgram rather than milligram doses.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Consider yourself blessed to not be on any medications. Keep it that way if you can. People that are on medications need to be careful when taking supplements. The challenging part is finding someone in person that is good at deciphering both that doesn't cost thousands of dollars out of pocket.

I was taking Tart Cherry for inflammation and was scheduled for a surgery. Tart Cherry can act as a blood thinner, 3 layers down in the medical system a provider caught that I was taking it and told me to stop taking it a week prior to surgery as a precaution. I don't know if it was a big deal or not, but I am glad someone was paying attention. I went back on Tart Cherry after the operation.

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a Lily of the Valley's avatar

Thanks!!! Good to know. I take Tart Cherry, too. I'm going to make a note on the bottle.

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Suzanne's avatar

No. 1 is Vitamin D! Get it tested, so you have a baseline, but start taking at least 5,000 iu daily. 👍

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CMCM's avatar

Definitely get tested to know where you are. About 10 years ago my husband's D levels were extremely low, and his doctor prescribed a supplement that was something like 60,000 iu daily. I think he took that for a month or two to bring up his levels and then went back to occasional daily D pills. He has not had low levels since then, although now because of what we've learned the last 3 years, he takes 5,000 iu daily and we may bump it up to 10,000 in winter. We live in California so it was a surprise that his levels were low. So I would always recommend a test just to get a baseline for where you are.

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AngelaK's avatar

How high does this dosage bring your blood numbers? 🤔

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Vit D supplementation should be individualized by repeat blood level testing. I was taking 5000IU daily with K and iodine. My levels rose too high, upwards of 160 so I have backed off but still stay around 100 with a lower dose of D. It's rather curious as years ago my levels were way too low and I was diagnosed with osteopenia quite young. At that point, I was still under the spell of big med/big pharm and tried prescription meds pushed at me. They wrecked my gut and made me so sick. Funcional medicine route using diet, fasting and supplements turned my life around. Now my metabalism works great, my bones are good and I manage to absorb nutrients much more readily.

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Kim D's avatar

The only supplement I disagree with from the list would be calcium. There has been much misinformation regarding this supplement so do some holistic research to determine if it is beneficial for your specific needs and what kind to take. Learning more about the quality of foods is essential. GMOs are everywhere which means if you eat them you would be ingesting Glysophate into your system, causing digestive disturbance or worse. Read all labels including foods you have used for years and thought to have been clean. Many are now using bioengineered ingredients. Detoxing with chlorophyll is helpful or try this product: https://globalhealing.com/products/heavy-metal-chemical-cleanse?variant=40546296234184&msclkid=7fa4c1f4a26e1ea2ddc7a4efbd404375. They also have a C60 product and nascent iodine which are great. We are in a battle for good health to be sure, but by placing the armor of GOD around yourself each day and asking for devine guidance in maintaining your body temple will assure your success. Blessings!

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bebevan's avatar

Thank you all for the information - I am a novice at all the supplements- will look into all the comments above - I will get bloodwork and see what it says - also, so agree with the fasting - I began fasting most days in January and was 16:8 or 17:7 and eating more of a Mediterranean diet - not much of a meat person so lots of vegetables and really felt so much better. Lost about 40 lbs - haven’t been fasting the last two months - family vacations, etc - got back on it this week. Thank you again for all your help. I don’t have any supplements or ivermectin but will look into all that commented.

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Liliana's avatar

Thank you!

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Mom in Florida's avatar

Where is everyone getting the Iver??

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

2nd Smartest Guy in the World--bottom of each post

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Deni's avatar

Thanks, but I'll pass on anything manufactured by Merck. Why so many are jumping on the Big Pharma bandwagon as if it's not, is beyond me... there ARE natural alternatives ...

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Roger Beal's avatar

Is quercetin the same as fenben?

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TC's avatar

No. But you can trigger apoptosis and autophagy through fasting. I’m currently fasting one day a week and think everyone should. Longer fasts once a quarter or so. Depends on your state of health. There are other docs looking into this. And it costs you nothing.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Thank you. My wife had a total thyroidectomy 2-1/2 years ago; it was cancerous. PET scans show that there are residual bits of cancerous tissue on the exterior of her larynx. The options to treat those are poor, being a choice between a difficult and risky surgery, or beam / proton radiation five days a week for several weeks. We're happy to have this new info on iver and fenben, and will be pursuing more detalis and case histories.

Another shout-out to Jeff and the readers of C&C: This potentially life-saving information is new to us, and we are "internet-savvy" researchers. Blessings to all y'all.

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Coco Of 3's avatar

I have my husband on Joe Tippen’s protocol. He has rectal cancer. Anxious to know the results on his upcoming CT. Also research castor oil. Blessings to both of you.

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Kim D's avatar

Castor Oil is a very old tried and true medicinal with multiple health benefits. It's commonly used in Ayurvedic practices. Seek the highest quality.

https://www.banyanbotanicals.com/

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Roger Beal's avatar

Thank you!

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Verve's avatar

Could you please give us updates on your wife? This would be a very encouraging story to follow.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Will do. I need to add a bit more depth to this story. Miz Laura's thyroid was fully involved, and its removal required a four-hour surgery designed to protect and preserve her laryngeal nerves. You may wonder how her thyroid cancer might have progressed so far, undetected. Simple answer: Negligent practices by an allopathic ENT.

Laura first "presented" 18 months earlier with chronic hoarseness. Doc Allo-ENT peered down her throat, and said the cause was idiopathic. Translated to English, that means a pathetic diagnosis by an idiot in a white coat. We learned later, from both the ENT who eventually did her surgery and others, that an ultrasound scan of the thyroid region is STANDARD PROCEDURE in such cases of longterm hoarseness. Y'all take note of that fact, just in case you find yourself suffering from similar conditions!

Laura has had three surgeries to date: Thyroidectomy, followed by a strong dose of oral RAI131; vocal cord medialization (as the cancer caused one vocal cord to stop functioning); and nasal turbinate reduction (to counteract the shrinkage of her nasal passages caused by the RAI treatment). Certain blood markers are monitored every few months, and they revealed the recurrence of the cancer. A PET scan confirmed it.

BTW, we looked into suing Doctor Dickless Allo-ENT for negligent malpractice. Spoke to a few medical specialist lawyers in two major metro areas. The wall of doctor protection they erected is high and impenetrable. Just like career politicians, the allopaths and their financial allies protect their own.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Condolences to the you both. So correct, medical and law practitioners are well insulated by their peers in situations on negligence.

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Peace's avatar

Your wife could possibly benefit from ingesting bloodroot/black salve capsules. There are some FB groups for this or google to find a company that sells these. I hesitate to link any of this, just in case . . .

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Roger Beal's avatar

Thank you! All approaches will be investigated.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Check out Greg Caton's (RIP) black salve/bloodroot products. Books are available from GregCaton.com and products at herbhealers.com. Greg's wife Catherine is still running the business from Ecuador. She's available for questions by email.

My husband has removed several cancerous spots on his scalp, face, arms and back with black salve. I removed 30 yr plantar warts from the soles of my feet. I've visited untold doctors and tried many treatments for my plantar warts and was just about to have them cut out (although many say they return even with that treatment) but luckily found Greg's stuff first.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I suffered from plantar's warts too. Had them burned off, cut out, and finally had the last one lazered off about 30+ years ago. none since, thank goodness. But I'll get the salve for other stuff, thx. I joined the fb group, some gruesome pics so far, yuk, I feel lucky! Just minor stuff.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Robyn Openshaw (see her substack) speaks of black salve. I went then to look for more info--CDC (bless its filthy little heart) says don't take it, and especially don't take it for cancer. Sounds to me like praising with faint damns.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you, I’ll check into this.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

47Yinzer, if you find any further research on these drugs and thyroid cancer please let me know. I have nodules in my remaining lobe, (right lobe removed unfortunately 20+ years ago...wish I hadn’t as it was non cancerous) but now one nodule is non-diagnostic and need to retest early next year. And I have tissue growing on my larnix above where the right lobe was that I can see and feel. Have not had a PET. No one seems concerned about tissue.

Anyway, the nodule is not cancerous yet and I’d like to keep it that way!

Thanks for sharing! All the best to your wife.

Thank you Florida Based Man!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Will do, Miz Karen. I posted a response to another comment that outlines my wife's entire trip down this road to date. Blessings to you for continued good health!

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CeCe Brown's avatar

Facebook has a fenbendazole group that is rich with info. They talk about Joe Tippens protocol as being low dose fenbendazole, they promote a higher dose. Lots of anecdotal info in there as well as highly proctored by admin. They have a protocol you might want to check out. FLCCC also has a new cancer protocol.. it is very similar to fenbendazole Facebook group.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Just wrote a comment but tried to edit and erased it!

Right lobe removed 20+ years ago, but now have tissue growing on my larynx above that area that no one seems concerned about, have not had a PET. I can see and feel it. Also have a non-diagnostic nodule on my left side and need to retest in Jan.

If you find out any info on iver and fenben in relation to thyroid cancer please let me know.

All the best to your wife. ♥️

Also, thanks Based Florida Man. I first wrote Florida Based Man, which is true also 😉

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Kim D's avatar

Check out the comments in this substack to see if there are any mentions of thyroid cancer cases:

https://fenbendazole.substack.com/

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you Kim! Will do!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Fasts are some of the best medicines.

Note that most religions have fasting for very good reasons.

They work.

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TC's avatar

Exactly. They knew what’s up. I’m seeing more churches by us incorporating more fasts with their congregations and I’m loving it.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

It's interesting isn't it, that versions other than KJV (NIV, ESB, etc) of the Bible completely leave out THIS (among many others) verse Matthew 17:21?

Matthew 17:19‭-‬21 KJV

19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and *fasting*.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Not really that odd for the verse. It's not in the earliest manuscripts they've found so those versions put in a footnote indicating that it's not found and omit the verse. ESV goes from v20 -> v22 but includes a footnote about the manuscripts. Modern versions do similar with other passages that don't show up everywhere. I think the end of Mark IIRC.

Not saying that fasting isn't important and has uses - totally agree with that - just that a verse not showing up in more modern translations usually just means that as people find earlier manuscripts the scholars may choose to omit those verses and put a footnote in its place.

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Freebird's avatar

Our favorite Bible scholar, Janice, uses an app called Literal Word, which is only NASB95. It also includes that verse.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My goodness you are right! I have been (since April) reading the KJV 1611. Just now compared that to my RSV (which I've had since childhood)--RSV completely omits verse 21--goes from v 20 to 22. I never noticed before! But the x footnote does say that 'other ancient authorities insert verse 21...."

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

It's interesting isn't it, that versions other than KJV (NIV, ESB, etc) of the Bible completely leave out THIS (among many others) verse Matthew 17:21?

Matthew 17:19‭-‬21 KJV

19Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? 20And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and *fasting*.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

How long should you fast? Do you drink anything besides water?

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Peter Schott's avatar

Look up Dr. Jason Fung - books and videos. He's got a lot of good resources on starting the process and going from a simpler 16-8 type fast to more extended fasts, though he is careful to indicate that extended fasts should be done with a doctor checking on you.

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CMCM's avatar

My husband and I have done what is almost always a 16 hour daily fast for quite a few years. We started doing this at least 10 years ago to drop about 25 lbs each, and once we accomplished that through a mostly Atkins type diet, we kept the fasting routine and have also easily maintained our weight loss. We are both almost the same weights were were when we met in high school in 1965, so I have to think the fasting has excellent benefits. We try to eat dinner early around 6 pm, and we don't eat until 10 or 11 the next day. This is quite easy to do on a daily basis.

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Lynn46's avatar

When the covid b.s. started and doing my research I started taking quercetin with zinc several days a week. No jabs and only had a slight cold the entire time. I also take most supplements recommended like Vit D3, Vit C etc.

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Roger Beal's avatar

We did the same - plus vitamins D & K. Also no respiratory infections to date, and no fancy-schmancy pharmaceuticals either! Thank you.

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