Now, someone with real balls, needs to argue that the rest of the CDC childhood schedule vaccines “protecting others” needs to be cast into doubt, as the compelling evidence points to nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation.
Oh, the science is conflicted? Great. So there’s doubt. Let’s start prying at the cracks.
Begging as a mother on behalf of all rational parents everywhere.
Now, someone with real balls, needs to argue that the rest of the CDC childhood schedule vaccines “protecting others” needs to be cast into doubt, as the compelling evidence points to nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation.
Oh, the science is conflicted? Great. So there’s doubt. Let’s start prying at the cracks.
Begging as a mother on behalf of all rational parents everywhere.
What will you/we learn in the quick 87 pages (all reference sources are also included)? True 'placebos' have never been run on ANY vaccines.
Pharma knows this and has gone to great lengths to prevent them from ever happening (I suspect they've done the studies and know, and therefore don't want the unwanted truth to come out).
Let me know if you have any questions as this is an area where I have completed coursework to better understand the lunacy of this entire Mafioso business.
I learned about Dr. Mercola while walking my little rescue Maltese in a local park back in 2013 (from a fellow dog walker whose dog's issues were helped by the holistic veterinarian, Dr. Becker, who partners with Dr. Mercola - and have followed his essays and use his supplements as the Spirit leads me to do so. Good man!!
Walking...I just checked Dr. Karen Becker's website and she does not post her "essays" on her website - I signed up to receive her newsletters once again (I had unsubscribed a few years ago because I didn't have the time to read them anymore). I imagine if you contacted her by e-mail she would answer any and all questions you have--she's that kind of "mensch"!! Here's a link to her website anyway: https://drkarenbecker.com/dvm/
Dr. Mercola was my "go-to" for years but lately something seems to be amiss with him. I don't know what is going on but I am a bit skeptical when I hear things like he is consulting with a psychic. I do see a difference in him. I just pray that he is ok.
Kathryn I agree that something is amiss with Dr. Mercola. I am more and more uncomfortable reading the content of his daily articles. He has changed his stance on so many of his previous held health positions. It just unsettles me.
I love Dr. Mercola and am so grateful for all I have learned from him. A few days ago I watched this video related to what has been going on with Dr. Mercola. I recommend watching it rather than reading it to gain a better understanding. Click on the arrow to listen to Barbara Fisher talk. So heartbreaking! I really hope he will be ok.
I agree with you CitizenA. I started noticing a difference in his health positions since last winter, and not just one or two, but so many that I found it unsettling, and a red flag was raised.
I haven't seen anything glaringly different in Dr. Mercola's newsletters that I receive - mostly they come through bi-weekly or monthly. What is 'changing' in his advice because I haven't noticed it.
He’s changed his stance on carbs and keto diets, but explains very well his reasons for the change. I happen to agree with his new approach to that area. I still glean good information from his articles, and also from the commenters on his articles. I take what is useful to me, and ignore anything that doesn’t apply. I think that’s all we can do, no matter the source. If there’s one thing we’ve learned over the last 4 years, it’s be skeptical of everything and do your own research!
I just finished reading today's C & C. Jeff's notes from his presentation at the NACL would be a "useful" sermon at any congregation where those in attendance are searching for an explanation of what happened and is happening to us.
SPOT ON - would definitely be better than some of the 'lightweight' sermons being preached in so-called "Christian" congregations - would give the attendees some real "meat" to chew on. Time to put away the "pablum" and get on to the REAL menu!!
I'm not a close follower of his, but I suggest that anything he recommends that came as a result of consulting with his psychic should be avoided at all costs.
Yep, although I have never really cared for Mercola, I did realize that he was right a good bit of the time. But lately....I'm personally not going down that path and hope he comes to his senses soon....
next step: there are no virus* correction: no virus has ever actually been shown to exist. they appear to have always been the fraud invention that opens the door to vaccines.
I may be a lone dissenter here, but when you say viruses don’t exist to people, that’s when you start to lose them and their eyes begin to glaze over and they begin to think crazy conspiracy theorist and they tune out anything else you have to say and disregard anything you had said before. If there are no viruses (and I really don’t care if you call them viruses or something else) then explain what causes measles, mumps, hepatitis, Ebola, Covid, etc
If you tell me Covid wasn’t real, the many people who experienced it firsthand would beg to differ. I have never been as sick as I was with Covid (and no I did not get the shot) and it was totally different than any typical flu I’ve had before. I lost my sense of smell and it took over a year for it to come back. I’m not saying it rose to the level of a pandemic, but there was something different going around, and I don’t think it necessarily helps the “cause” to say viruses don’t exist until you’re prepared to offer an alternative to what has made someone sick other than “oh, it’s the 5G”, or “it’s just your body detoxing”, or “its really past traumas just coming to the surface”.
To be clear though, I am against any and all vaccines and pretty much every other pharmaceutical product and allopathic medicine in general, because I don’t think “scientists” are anywhere close to smart enough to have a detailed understanding of how the human body actually functions, to be able to develop something that will not have unintended and potentially devastating consequences.
I feel like I could have written this word for word. I'm ready to entertain the thought that there are no "viruses" but until a reasonable explanation is provided for how illnesses clearly move from person to person, I feel like it's just a semantics game. Our family stopped ALL shots over 12 years ago. We are all very healthy and rarely get sick - but with 4 kids, usually when one catches something, it does move through at least one or 2 other kids. We never tested for Covid, but we most definitely had it at least twice. The first time, I had to use literally everything in my holistic toolbox to get well and I remember thinking that any other person would likely have needed significant allopathic treatment to overcome it. Our family actually traveled full-time during the majority of the pandemic - and ironically, only had "covid" while visiting our homebase. It was quite interesting to live a life of such freedom while watching so many people succumb to the narrative and live life trapped in their homes.
I wrote this a few weeks back. I made it as short and concise as possible about what viruses are, and what they are not.
It's the most reasonable explanation I found about ten years ago and I've been using the knowledge to prove it to myself and my family ever since. It's solid.
Amazingly, all other causes of disease magically disappeared in 2020. Everything was Covid, Covid, Covid no matter what one caught or got. Ask anyone what they got and it was Covid and nothing else. This held true whether it was death certificates, hospital admissions, visits to local masked man pretending to be a doctor. So, to sum. Some people got real sick from something. Some did not. The people who got real sick from something called it 'covid' ... and the people who got sick with other things also called it 'covid'. So everyone got sick with 'covid' whether they did or not. Like Shakespeare said, "What is there in a name?"
By the way Russia, Russia, Russia is not Russia ... nor the Ukraine for that matter. Russia, Russia, Russia might be code for the United States, and only by some stretch of the imagination. But I would not know because I like mostly in the real world, even though this causes problems for me.
Yup. Even the guy who crashed his motorcycle in the LA Freeway and died because of his injuries didn't really sustain any life-thretening ijuries. He died of the covid thing, and the hospital, as a Big Prize" for ticking the correct box on the "cause of deah" form, got a bonus if $40K.
See how that works? Dangle a bit of gelt in front of an hospital administrator/money-man, and there IS no other cause of death than the Woo Flew.
How easily people do themselves in by uncritically consenting to employ the terms their masters serve up them, and thereby unwitting consent towards furthering their own self-destruction. Covid, Long Covid ... empty of content.
I am glad to see that this bothers a few other people as much as it does me.
Karen, nancylee is correct that pathogenic viruses don't exist, though the way I prefer to say it is "those particles scientists call viruses have never been proven to do what they claim." The basic truth to understand is that Terrain Theory is backed up by science; Germ Theory is not. Here is an excellent video discussing this topic:
Each of the diseases you listed do have other possible causes, all of the causes falling into one of two categories--toxins (bad food, water, air, EMF, etc.) or lack of something (insufficient vitamins, minerals, proteins, sunshine, contact with the earth, contact with other humans, etc.).
There are many great books that discuss the above in detail. I recommend Can You Catch a Cold? (Roytas), Virus Mania (Kohnlein, et. al.), The Contagion Myth (Cowan, Morrell), or The Invisible Rainbow (Firstenburg).
I don’t agree or disagree with your statement or the linked videos assertion that viruses don’t exist. I simply don’t know as I am no expert. As I said in my original comment, I don’t necessarily care what it is called, terrain theory, germ theory, etc. My main concern is what I experience and observe firsthand. I don’t believe even our most intelligent scientists and doctors, including the ones you mentioned, have a clear and complete understanding of the complex and wonderful design that is our bodies and their interactions with the world around us. Only our Creator has that understanding and we are much better off to look to nature, which He provided for things to cure what ails us.
I believe this is backed up by the fact that I can’t think of a single disease that allopathic medicine has cured (but maybe I have missed something). Pretty much without exception, pharmaceuticals have unintended and undesirable consequences, at least in some people. Therefore, I think it is in everybody’s best interests to not only question the efficacy, or lack thereof, of any and all vaccines but also any and all pharmaceuticals (but no, I am not recommending someone discontinue all their prescriptions, this post does not constitute medical advice lest someone report me to the FDA).
When someone just throws out “viruses don’t exist” it goes against many people’s experiences and observations and it doesn’t move the needle in the vaccine or Covid debate, because many people experienced something that caused them or loved ones to be ill or possibly die. Call it Covid or call it the normal seasonal flu or something else but it was something. I’m not buying that it was 5G, an individual’s past or current traumas, stress, our psyche, or just our bodies normal detoxification process, all of which I have seen posited.
In my opinion, the debate should be, assuming for arguments sake that Covid exists, did the government have the authority to suspend our God given rights that are delineated in the Constitution and to require people be masked, distanced and injected with unsafe, ineffective substances? For me that would be a hard no.
I tried to like your post but the “like” button does not seem to work.
No Covid vax in our home
My daughter came home sick w Covid. Next day I had it. Two days later other two kids sick. I was really sick, I took a week off work, first sick time for me in over ten years. It was three more weeks before I was really able to function well.
That’s a great question, although influenza is from a virus also. I also reject the validity of those tests in that they cycled them so many times that they certainly got a huge number of false positives. But if that’s true they shouldn’t miss an actual positive case. I’m not defending the Covid test they were designed to make everything seem worse for the masses and they worked very well for that.
I’m not a flu expert, I think I’ve had it a couple of times in my life, three maybe four times, I’m 61 years old.
When I think of flu I think of headache, fever, throwing up, bodyaches. What I had was much worse than that. I did not take a test and neither did my other two kids, my first kid that came home with it was required by their employer to take a test and they came out positive and they in fact had the same common symptoms, that is loss of taste, loss of smell etc. I did not lose taste or smell but suddenly cold water or any cold beverage tasted horrible to me. I could only drink room temperature water. That lasted for well over a year. I live in Florida I work outside all day every day and I could not have ice water because I simply couldn’t drink it - it tasted so bad to me. I also had other strange symptoms, I felt like there was twisted reinforcement bar writhing in my gut. It hurt so bad I’ve never experienced anything like that before, but the worst symptoms of all was exhaustion. It was awful that I felt better physically (after Hydroxychloroquine ) but I couldn’t hardly get out of a chair. I felt fine no fever no nothing but I couldn’t do anything, fortunately that in my job I’m the boss and I was able to assign work and just lay low because otherwise I would’ve had to take two or three additional weeks off because I just really couldn’t do anything besides show up.
I lost my sense of smell without getting Covid or being sick from anything. I also lost it every time I've had a cold. I don't think it's related to Covid (if there even is a covid). I just think we were poisoned. That would explain a nursing home out in the middle of nowhere getting it before anyone else. Say what? How did old people who never go anywhere, without visitors, get decimated by "covid"? Anecdotal "evidence" by people who say "I was never so sick... " well every year, someone has a bad flu that they were 'never so sick' from. This has happened anecdotally to me for 3 years running. Not that I was sick but that someone I worked with, am related to, or friends with got the flu and "it was the worst flu I ever had." I am guessing that that's how our memory works - we don't remember how bad the last flu was when we get the next one. The present one is always going to be the worst, esp. the older we get.
A 'virus' is a biological program designed to go in to action the very second a psychological problem is perceived. Say you were told you had cancer and had six months to live - Heaven forbid. That shock is registered in the brain IMMEDIATELY. The psyche is not biological, but the brain is. The brain's shock is relayed to a specific organ. For a death fright one will develop lung cancer (so-called). For a separation shock one will develop a skin cancer. There is a biological law involved.
The shock can be seen on a CT scan as a ring.
I wrote about it once if you have the inclination.
Daniel, I don't click on links that I don't know what they are. If you give a brief description of what the video is, you might get more people who will watch it.
Okay, no problem. The video is of David Martin, the founding chairman of M Cam asset management company (and American patent auditing expert), at an International Covid Summit organized by the European Parliament in Brussels in May 2023, In it he states that the US was responsible for the making of both coronaviruses causing the outbreaks of severe acute respiratory syndrome - or SARS - in 2003 and the Covid-19 pandemic in the past three years., He discusses, with clarity, how the corona "virus" is a man made "virus" that is the result of manipulation begun in 1965. He provides the "receipts" and many more facts of which everyone should be aware. It was simply 7 stunning minutes of information to me. Its a crime against humanity for which there must be full accountability.
He was trying to find at least on State’s Attorney General back in Jan. 2021, on that infamous day, when he stood in front of the Senate building and read a list of statutes broken by the manufacture of the jab. I am surprised he hasn’t been derailed like Reiner Fuellmich in Germany.
I think everyone can now understand why this information has been censored and hidden from us. At least it was hidden from me since I just found out about it this week and wanted to share it as widely as I possibly could. Some Attorney General somewhere (Paxton in TX?) needs to conduct a full investigation, empanel a grand jury and start bringing indictments. Our federal government, giant pharmaceuticals, media, etc., are all in cover up mode.
so whether naturally occuring or man made from the start, a virus IS a thing.
No question the virus responsible for the covid madness IS a real thing. I've seen a number of solid pieces of evidence detailing HOW that particular corona virus was adopted as the starting point then manipulated/modified to become what is now called SARS CoV 2, after spending illions of OUR tx dollars to develop the final product. I've seen solid evidence tracing the origins and pathway tp the current version of it.
Tio, I'm surprised that is your takeaway. The far bigger issue is that they conducted the pLandemic against the people of the world - truly, a crime against humanity - and so far have completely gotten away with it. And not only that but in the US, they also changed the way we vote, without our consent, so they could manipulate and steal the election, not against Trump but against the people. And now we have an un-elected puppet and an administration doing immense damage, not only to the USA but the world - and so far have completely gotten away with it.
Danil your pons are valid and yet do not take away anything from MY point. I have read extensively on how the virus was designed and released (there are three plausible pathways to have ben followed from the point the virus itself was gain-of-function modified from its natural state, it is highly probable a combination was used to get it "out there"). Sraightaway our gummit's "response" was so obviously preplanned, the narrative already fully formed, the dithering by those "responsible" to act in such "situations". the lawfare that brought in mandates, crazy "prescriptions", the banning of anything even remotely a potential cure or adjuvant. ALL the pieces "happened" to be ready and primed within days of it being "found" in public.
HAD the Nürenberg Convention and tue US lw arisong directly from that been cited and ENFORCED nationwide, NO ONE could have been forced to slap oin those wretched mug nappies.. those devices are a "medical device" and canno be forced upon anyone. Hydrochloroquine is known to be VERY helpful in treatment of similar viral diseases. It was denied general use, again contra Nürenberg I have studied the precise mechanism by which ths drug prohibits the proliferation/replication of viral particles in humans. Simpel direct, known. But, contra Nürenberg, denied by our gummit poohbahs, illegally. Two long time dear friends of mine were in Nicaragua durong the nonsense, both got the covid. They were brought to "good" hosptials hich applied the US mandated "cure: go home, rest, take lots of fluids, and come back if it gets worse. They did it did they did...within a few days they put both of them on ventilators, they were both gone Home within a week. What made me FURIOUS is that any ten year old kid in Nicaragua can take the equivalent of about three dollars fifty, walk into any farmácia and in a coule of minutes walked back out with large supply of HCQ, gone back to their houses and cured them.
Enacting mandates conditioning your employment, membership in an organisation or school, ability to freely move about s you would upon taking that UNTESTED unproven experimental injection is directly counter to US law based upon the Nürenberg Protocls.
That ONE THING could have been deployed and used to end the entire madness, all mandates, experimental shots, prohibitions against proven medical treatments, and ended the pandemic within a few weeks.
NOW do you understand a bit more from where I am coming on "Nürenberg? The LAW is there, it ws scrupulously IGNORED, locked up and not mentioned in the general discussion regarding this manufactured scam.
My apologies, I was VERY pressed for time this morning and had not expected to find THIS topic addressed today. Hope I've been able to 'splain muh sewf a bit better.
This might not 'directly' answer your question 'do viruses actually exist', but this article tackles the timelines of what was "Covid" and was it in fact a virus, or an airborne toxin emitted around the world simultaneously (think chem-trails as most are sprayed around humans, not out at sea where they'd have a better chance of really deflecting the sun's rays), but take a gander and let us know your thoughts. Complicated, I know.
I agree -The virus or whatever covid is was made in a lab and is a bioweapon. The doctors treating the spike damaged know this. Others who deny it’s an issue just don’t know.
I totally agree with your consensus on "spouting off" to those who are SO ASLEEP they may never awaken. Perhaps couching the "virus discussion" with this phrase, "since science ALWAYS QUESTIONS medical discoveries, there have been NEW evidence to dispute the 'theory of viruses' their origin and modalities" or something on that order. THEN...you can share what you have learned from the TRUTH-SEEKING scientists whose work you trust.
I totally agree with everything you say. I get a little tired of people saying covid was/is just a cold because I've never had a "cold" like that before. No taste/smell and the fatigue was off the charts. I could barely make it across the room. I've had walking pneumonia before and I thought that was hell. It was a walk in the park compared to covid. So it drives me nuts when people claim that there are no viruses. Then tell us exactly what we had. Also I'm not jabbed.
Exactly, I had the same experience. It took me a month to feel like myself again and that only happened after I had several Vitamin C infusions. Even then, I couldn’t smell anything for a year and a half., hardly typical cold or flu symptoms.
I was lucky the smell and taste came back after a couple of months but the fatigue took weeks. I also developed a sinus infection probably from the nasty mask wearing. I've never had any kind of infection requiring antibiotic in my life and I'm 63. It all basically felt like all out war on my body. I thank God I've kept in shape with a lot of exercise and a low carb diet. I'm glad you are better. 😀
You are not the lone dissenter, that is for certain.
Just because the official story regarding vaxxes is a lie doesn't mean every crackpot youtube "influencer" theory is true. Most of these people are either nuts, pushing crazy schemes for clicks, or chaos agents. Don't discount the last one as Pharma loves the "no virus" people as they make all pharma critics look nutty by association. It's similar to how the Flat Earth people are used to ridicule those who question the moon landings (based on solid evidence).
Obviously aspects of the terrain theory are true, people in poor health get sick easier. But that can be true and viruses still real, they aren't mutually exclusive. But these people play on humans inability to think in nuanced terms and propensity to swing to one extreme or the other. Hence they fall for every pied piper that comes down the pike.
same here. I will watch the video but think it is a bridge too far for most, certainly me as I was SICKER WITH COVID (no jab) than ever before in my life.
Interestingly, I watched a video with Dr. Mercola and Suzanne Humphries. They both seem to believe in viruses because of childhood diseases like measles and chickenpox. These are contagious and then people don’t get them again. Most develop immunity. Unlike colds & flu that we get multiple times and are a lot of times very similar.
I don’t fully believe colds and flus are contagious as most times in our household we don’t catch or pass on one another’s illness. I have slept in the same bed with my husband for 39 years through all our colds & few flus and we never passed one to the other.
Correct! The link you sent is good; Sam and Mark are warriors, as are Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, and others. The science is on the side of terrain theory, not germ theory. Here's another excellent video that comprehensively explains the failures of germ theory:
Thank for this podcast link. Heads up to others… you have to listen to an intro that’s about 20-30 min. before the interview with Mark Bailey. The sound clip with Del Bigtree is one I have not heard before. He thinks the no virus theory should be ignored for now. He thinks that he’ll get more open listeners in government if the focus is vaccines are harmfull.
Right there with you. Like Dr. Peter McCullough said, 'vaccines are not the free lunch we thought they were. ' How succinct and accurate that has turned out to be. I think the long slow slide for the vaccine manufacturers has begun.
78 or 79 doses of assorted “vaccines” by the time they’re 18! In the 60’s it was 3, in the 80’s something like 13. And we wonder why there is such a surge in autism, ADHD, autoimmune disease, etc! People can argue all day long about whether vaccines cause autism, for instance, but for the love of God, who in their right mind cannot see that pumping kids with 79 doses of ANYTHING is going to cause problems!
Allergies too RL. The 4 A’s- Allergies, asthma, Autism and ADHD are all caused by vaccination per the Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed research and book by Dr. Brian Hooker and Dr. Paul Thomas.
Does that mean you are in favor of the US ruling elites' endless wars around the world? The deep state and social media's surveillance and censorship regimes? Serious questions.
Trump was so against endless wars that he didn't start any, the first President in a long time, for that, and of course he really doesn't like the deep state or surveillance and censorship, being their chief target for some time now.
Sometimes, in warfare, it's best not to tell your enemy what you plan, especially if they still have you tangled in the legal system with a possible (functionally) life sentence.
Fair enough. But with his participation with the swamp (in direct contradiction to his campaign promises) I'm not going to assume he's learned a damn thing.
Bottom line, he's either stupid and inept, or he's in bed with the deep state.
I believe the latter is more likely, though it could be some of both.
Not deep state for sure, or it wouldn’t be so committed to destroying him. Narcissistic to a fault, yes, but he truly cares about 🇺🇸. Not a unquestioning fan, but sane folks have no choice in 2024. RFK can’t win in our electoral system, and if it goes to the House, who do you think they’ll choose, regardless of who has the majority. Trust me, it wouldn’t be a R or RFK.
He was against vaccines. He has changed his feelings/thoughts on them. Sorry unable to post where I read this but it woke me up. I felt at the time reasonable report, perhaps need to search. It was in his own words.
I will never support the evil state of Israel, created by the Illuminati in Britain early 1900's Balfour Declaration to set Jews (not even jews, but Ashkenazi descended from KHAZARIANS- some of our REAL enemies) against Arabs (the REAL semites, btw.
its time to stop funding the MASS SLAUGHTER IN ISRAEL. cut them OFF.
This has nothing to do with money. Given the backstabbing the United States has done to Israel throughout the decades, I would be happy to see all ties cut between our two countries. And I believe it is the United States that would suffer most for the loss of that alliance.
The Jewish people are the most brilliant and industrious in the world. Do you really not believe the U.S. has benefited from an alliance with that brain trust? A true financial reckoning of the relationship would look very different from what you’ve been led to believe.
Check out pulseofisrael.com. The Israeli people want answers from their military and intelligence leaders about their cooperation with the U.S. in attempts to harm, marginalize and maybe exterminate Israel. They realize the war they are fighting is both external and internal. They are learning to trust God.
For the first time, I saw expressed suspicion about the role of Nixon and Kissinger in the Yom Kippur War in 1973. The sabotage has been ongoing for a very long time.
There’s far more to the story than meets the eye. Don’t accept the simplistic, slogan laden, terrorists supporting version.
I have many reservations about RFK - I've never voted for a non-GOP candidate) but he's literally the only one raising questions about Fauci and the link between autism and other diseases and the childhood vax schedule.
Unlike Trumpers, I don't just assume a candidate believes what he says.
his wife is a Hollywood Zionist. not much better than Jared Kushner's perverted stance, selling gazan beach real estate while children are still Bleeding on it.
RFK Jr is also against pesticide poisoning of our croplands, although (being a lifelong Democrat) he plans to use the police powers of big government to reach his goals:
And Trump is serial cheat who has refused to pay 100's of contractors he hired.
He's also a liar (remember "lock her up?)
He's also so incredibly incompetent that he hired Epstein associate Barr, who contemptuously ignored Trump and ran out the clock without doing a damn thing.
He also, of course, hired hundreds of deep state people from the swamp, and gave them power to run his administration.
He was so inept that he couldn't keep his promises to build the wall.
I could go on ad nauseum, but I'll just suffice it to say, we've all been voting GOP for decades. We've listened to GOP leaders (eg. Trey Gowdy, Lindsey Graham, and hundreds of others) promise to right the constitutional ship, cut spending, reduce the deficit, close the borders, etc. and not a DAMN bit of progress has been made.
At some point, you have to at least wonder "Are we being played?"
You know, folks keep claiming that he didn’t pay employees. Any evidence I’ve found was only when the work was so substandard as to require extensive revision.
As for “lock her up,” not pursuing that was the right decision. We DO NOT need more politicization and divisiveness. Does t make him a liar.
Does he say things at rally’s to play to his base? Surely. They all do.
Did you even bother to look at the resistance he faced at every single turn??? Yet he accomplished much; it’s there if you care to look. And I can personally vouch for many miles of new border wall in CA and AZ.
It was JB who immediately cancelled it, at terrific losses to taxpayers, and left huge piles of pre-constructed segments left to rust near Florence, AZ. Photos at your request.
If you think RFK, as much as there is to like about him, has a chance in heck to win this election, I implore you to review carefully the different States and Federal rules of the electoral college. And maybe review Perot - not a single electoral vote; not a single State.
Hahaha! I’m not even a big fan. Please post some reputable sources for your claims. You’ve gotta agree that we’ve endured more than our share of media and social media falsehoods recently.
Who are you looking for as a savior to put into in the WH? I'm not looking for anyone to put there myself.
It's scary how so many people are looking to just one man to pin all their hopes on. The USA was meant to be a constitutional republic. But many want it to become a monarchy. They want a king who will lead them into battle because they no longer view God as sufficient.
Are you voting for Caligula? Well then you must be a Nero supporter. Neither. I don't want ANY emperor. The executive branch of our federal government was never meant to be a throne. And I have read comments by MAGA zealots talking about setting up Trump's sons as potential heirs after he dies.
Head of HHS? Sec of State? Sad that he cannot possibly get to 270 electoral votes. Impossible. Some States don’t have to honor their voter’s preferences, but that’s a fairly minor issue. I don’t trust the House to decide the election, so please pick a side for 2024 and don’t send us down that rabbit hole.
Are your grandkids homeschooled? I imagine they are, because you have to be seriously vaxxed up according to the Childhood Vaccine Schedule, to attend public (an a number of private schools) in most states. Very few states allow for any ‘exemptions’ to “the schedule”…California NO exemptions! The majority of people who choose to not vaccinate their kids who live in CA, have been into homeschooling them for many years.
Actually, most states have some form of exemption. I think there are only 5 that have no exemption or only medical exemptions. The other 45 states have at least a religious exemption and a portion of those have a philosophical exemption as well. The schools will not offer up this information, you have to find it yourself.
The CDC knows vaccines cause autism. It’s been 10 years and Congress still hasn’t subpoenaed the CDC Whistleblower Dr. William Thompson. Pharmawhore Dr. Julie Gerberding became the President of the Vaccine Division at Merck for shredding the documents of the study the CDC performed, which showed a 260% increase in black male babies regressing into autism after the MMR. So, here’s a perfect example of a lack of transparency.
When I worked with autistic children in the public school system (retired in 2018), the vast majority were black males. Females of all races were probably less than 10% of that population.
So it would seem that black male children were most vulnerable. And for some reason, female children were a lot less affected.
It was discovered that black females were more susceptible to adverse reactions to the DPT vaccine by Dr. Aaby in Guinea -Bissau when he was able to look at his records comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated. The Highwire reported this sometime in 2019.
Brian Hooker MD wrote a book called "Evidence of Harm" that discussed studies that showed that young black males were much more likely to develop issues from the MMR if they had it before the age of 3 than any other demographic. The CDC made him throw that data away.
The "vaccines" have nothing to do with health, they make us un-healthy. But they do make the giant pharmaceuticals and their captured "government regulators" immensely wealthy, with our tax dollars and those of virtually every country on the planet. Human cockroach mr fauci and his underlings in NIAID, and others in NIH, CDC, etc made hundreds of millions of dollars in royalty payments. WTF??? How are civil servants allowed to make millions in royalties off the pharmaceutical companies they are supposed to regulate to protect us?
I was born in 1960. 1971 is the year they lined us up at school and gave us a shot. I don’t know what it was. I wonder if it was a measles booster because soon after I had my left eardrum burst and I failed all the school hearing tests. All the little kids getting tubes in their ears is tied to the MMR.
Born 1947. Ditto those two. Being a Pittsburgher, I was in one of the early trial groups for Jonas Salk's jab. Got it in a building which is now part of the UPMC complex. I bear a faint ring-shaped scar on my upper arm to this day from the Salk vax.
I like that “vaccine cult” is a good name and or “vaccine worshippers” for sure. They sure love throwing around the label of “anti-vax “ if you don’t believe in jabbing.
This can only be a Vaccine Cult, a form of worship where medical self-flagellation is obligatory. Some people are attracted to this cult because they like metal objects hanging on their bodies because it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling, something like light up Christmas trees fulsome with sparkling Christmas balls.
You may think my scribbling here a tad bizarre. But I assure you! It is not ... and no more bizarre than the people who saw Mr. Covid lurking around every corner, twist and turn of their pathways. Ah yes! The Ubiquitous Mr. Covid. He is Everywhere.
I would opt not to have them, sadly. I have 2 grown children and neither want to have children until they see what’s going to happen. This is very common amongst their friends. Just another reason we are depopulating.
My children were born in 1985 & 1990 - vaccines were a normal thing at that time, we didn't give it a second thought as their checkups consisted of the Dr. explaining what the vaccines were for. Neither of my kids were harmed. Fast forward to 2007 today, as a grandma of 8, out of them all 4 girls and 4 boys only 2 of them appear to have some difficulties. I firmly believe it was the vaccines that caused it.
*DURING* Psyop-19 [NOT to imply that said operation is over] it went from 72 doses to 90 (***NINETY!!***) This has gone way past 'obscene,' past 'criminal,' past 'tragic,' and reached 'profoundly evil.'
My Mom is 96 and in great shape, and can’t even remember her last vaccine. She declines them all and has for decades. She was raised on a farm with almost all the family’s food produced by themselves. Somehow, with the medical indu$try being what it has become, and food being processed and even produce being lower in nutrients, I don’t think we’ll be seeing as many people in the future who reach their 90s in good fettle.
There’s a lot of wisdom and experience in an observant person who’s made it as far as their 90s!! My Mom said the covid vaccine felt “all wrong” to her and declined it, and she also said, “I don’t want the world to shut down for me.” She saw right through the whole scam of coercing people to “protect grandma.”
This is probably part of the reason covid was created to target the “elderly”. Not only are they deemed “useless eaters”, they KNOW stuff. They know what it’s like to live through the Great Depression, they know what fascism looks like, they know how to survive without the nanny state etc…
I was born in the early 50’s so had 3 growing up…until the age of 9, when my family moved to Libya. We were plied with multiple vaccines (typhoid, TB, Cholera, smallpox, and polio) as was everyone I knew overseas. Nonetheless, still WAY less than now, and we never knew a single kid who had a heart attack, a turbo cancer, had autism, ADHD, etc, etc, etc! Most in my generation, if asked, will say the same, those afflictions were just about unheard of!
Yes please. My teen had a well check this week and the doctor tried to convince me that she HAD to have 3 meningitis vaccines in order to go to college. Nope. Not doing that to her again. I pretty much lost it and she then led me to the option of exemptions.
Bingo!! Stop taking your children to “well checks”. When you take your 7 year old car, to the Dealer for a certain mileage check, is there ever a time that you drive away without them telling you need a new something or something needs attention???
Do you go to a Lawyer for a check up to see if you need to file a lawsuit that you didn’t know about?
I worked in healthcare for over 20 years. "Well checks" are nothing more than a process to get you back into the clinic for a billable event. Pediatricians are notorious for this because of the fact the ages they treat don’t have chronic conditions like adults. Big Food and Big Pharma are doing all they can to change that, but it doesn’t happen overnight so "well checks" are needed to pay the bills.
Good point - I hadn't thought about the fact that pediatricians aren't dealing with the chronic conditions. Although, in recent years, there has certainly been an uptick in the four A's - Asthma, allergies, autoimmune diseases, and autism that should help their bottom line.
I’m liking so many in this article my finger is bleeding 🤣 I love you all and your critical thinking skills. God bless each one of you and keep speaking up. Don’t stop! Some say there’s a lot of talk but no action. But talking out loud about what-must-not-be-named IS taking action and brave at that during these times. We give each other courage so that when an opportunity (crossroad) to actually physically do something we are equipped with the necessary courage. So I Like. Like. Like!!
And Fred mine is that my “like” button is disabled (as it is for many of us that have complained of the same problem.) Beyond frustrating when I do not want to comment on EVERY post I like, but do want to add my approval by clicking the “like” button.
I wonder if anyone is working on this problem, or even knows it exists, or who can we even contact to fix it? I see this same complaint on OTHER SUBSTACKS besides C&C.
There are foolish people that do take older cars to the dealership for "wellness checks". An acquaintance asked for advice on this just the other day as he had taken the car to a dealership for an oil change (first mistake). He asked them to look it over and the came back with $10k in "recommended repairs". None of them were warranted except a minor coolant leak which they were overcharging by a factor of three to repair.
A concept with initial good intentions, preventative health care or preventative maintenance, has been completely corrupted by a unethical system to fool people into spending money on stuff they don't need. They use fear-mongering and the customers ignorance to pressure them. It amazes me that most people still can't see this and take this stuff seriously rather than laugh at these people and walk out.
I've never understood why people see their doctors for this weird thing called a "wellness check." If you are well, why would you go? And these days, even if I don't feel well, I don't go. 😂
I am 83 and we grew up in a time when kids didn't get rushed to the ER for every little thing. The only time I saw a doctor was for a Polio shot and once he came to the house when I had a bad case of measles. When we got cuts or scrapes, it was iodine and a bandaid. We weren't at all poor; rushing to doctors just wasn't done.
I only saw a doctor once in my life in my childhood: to get some necessary stitches on a cut. It never occurred to my mother to take me or my siblings to the doctor for normal, childhood illnesses. She certainly wouldn’t have taken us to a doctor for a “wellness check”. She knew if we were well or not already.
My daughter does have chronic issues, which I 100% believe are from childhood vaccines. My functional doctor told me to play the game to get the insurance to get blood work done so we could keep an eye on her.
This reminds me of my mom's strategy for a pushy salesperson who wanted her to buy an extended warranty. She told him to that she had every confidence that the product was such good quality, an extended warranty wasn’t necessary. He didn’t know what to say back 😆
The irony of doing a hard sell job on a product only to turn around and claim that the product really is a piece of crap that you can’t expect to last, so you need to pay for an extended warranty!
Walmart checkout cash register prompt: "Would you like to buy an extended warranty on your new flat screen TV?" That would be the TV which will last for ten years of normal use.
Actually they even ask if you want to buy an extended warranty for that mechanical pencil you just bought or that SD card. 🤣 It’s for everything now. $15 toaster? Want a warranty? Um no thanks I’ll just buy another if it breaks 😂
As an old lady on Medicare, I have had several calls from my insurance provider to have them come and do a "home health visit", they'll give me a $15 bonus if I do it.
My thoughts since CV is, if they have to pay you for it, it's probably not in your best interest.
Medicaid does the same. They will pay you a bonus to have an annual dr visit. Bribery 101. If someone wanted to have an annual appointment, no bribe "bonus" needed. All bs.
Another cause of the increase in childhood diseases is the obsession with cleanliness and handwashing with antibiotic soaps. I am not advocating for filth, but when we kids played in the dirt during the 1950s we returned the next day for more of the same, still healthy and stronger. Our moms did not try to trap us in antiseptic bubble suits, which seems to be commonplace today.
In addition to yes playing outside all day and in the woods behind the house as a child, I am a lifelong nail biter (tried to quit but impossible) so why am I rarely if ever sick? I do wash my hands but you know those fingers are always in my mouth. PS. I hate those sanitizers and I never use those hand dryers in public restrooms.
Way back when “guardasil” first arrived, doc tried to get me to give ok to give to my daughter. I read the brochure & said no. Later in the week, a nurse from our state dept of health called me. “Why not?” she asked. I stated it was only tried on 12 girls! She admitted she wasn’t giving it to her girls either. About a decade later, when my daughter was going to doc by herself, they tried again. She asked, if it’s only for ages 14-24, what happens if someone older takes it? The doc was stunned and let it drop. Our kids learn, even when we don’t realize it. Also, from their current commercial, I see they give it to both boys & girls, regardless of age.🤦♀️
This makes me so mad I’m in tears. I’m sick. My son was talked into HPV vax when he went into the Dr unaccompanied by me. At 13-14. Thanks to Oregon law that said I was no longer needed and my kids could make their own medical decisions. 🤮 I would have NEVER let him do it. I was livid. Still am. I’m sick for Colton and his family.
So, at 13-14, the kid can’t purchase alcohol, can’t drive, can’t serve in the military, can’t work a job, and the parents are held accountable if the kid doesn’t attend school. BUT, the kid CAN make life altering medical decisions based on doctor recommendations supported by undisclosed, inaccurate and incomplete information. 😳🤔
The kid probably thinks they are being treated like an adult being able to make their own medical decisions, but they are being treated like a baby by someone in authority saying, “Here take this it’s good for you.”
Perhaps kids should be taught that adults are seldom “given all the information,” but must seek out full details, ask questions, to be able to make informed decisions. If someone is “letting” the kid be an adult while handing the kid an already made decision, then the kid isn’t acting as an adult.
I was horrified to learn recently, that my now 32 year old daughter was enticed into receiving the Gardasil shot when in school, with me not knowing anything about it!
Some friends of mine told me their kids on high school teams were forced into it! They had a terrible reaction to the first shot & refused the remaining two. Sad.
A few select quotes from the medical community gleaned from that Reddit thread follow ..."I lean into this is the first vaccine that can porevent cancer" ... "vaccine paranoia" ... "I think [parents] see it as sexualizing children" ...
It is interesting but not surprising to learn that anyone who objects to The Allopathic Life (t.m.reg.) is sneered at and described as a fool.
It was considered by many to be the most dangerous shot until the Covid genetic injection came along. In Australia, the drug companies do not have immunity. I remember hearing RFK say that a lawyer could make a great living in Australia just by taking Gaurdisil cases, because the injuries were so devastating and easy to prove. The sad thing is that less women and girls are getting Pap smears, which easily detect any abnormal cells on the cervix. And of course, the shots interfere with the immune system comment making any kind of cancer more likely.
If a girl waits until marriage to have sex and her husband waited too, neither is at risk of any sexually transmitted disease, no pap smears or gardasil needed.
People these days seem to think having sex is an uncontrollable urge. It’s not. “My body my choice” begins before sexual intimacy occurs.
I hear you, but that’s not the way the world is these days. According to my younger friends, people don’t even really date anymore. Just casual hook ups. Not saying this is right, but the human sex drive has been a problem for thousands of years. I applaud anyone who has those principles and sticks by them.
There is nothing wrong with the human sex drive. Every period in history has its flaws, and these days there is a serious problem in our culture with responsibility. If you suggest to someone that it might be healthier to eat real food instead of a hotdog, cheetos, and a coke for lunch, you’re “fat shaming”. If a teacher refuses to inflate grades for “students of color” they’re racist. If you remind a teenager that having sex can lead to having a baby or getting a disease, you’re called a prude.
In all times in history, making good decisions leads to good outcomes. Sorry if that offends you.
I was born in 63. People haven’t changed, culture has. But the fact still remains that sex is not an uncontrollable urge. It’s a choice. But people act like “Oops, I didn’t mean to have sex, it just happened and now I have this baby/disease/feeling of emptiness.” Actions have consequences, and that wasn’t just true in the 50s.
I think it's a better bet, given the level of sex shaming and suppression of knowledge. to raise your children to be responsible and loving and to understand the consequences of sex, with and without birth control.
and to understand the financial consequences, and the life path consequences of unprotected sex. and even better, save it til you are in a committed relationship with someone you TRUST.
wishing and hoping for a day when kids dont have sex seems to me like the silliest of the options.
“Suppression of knowledge” is a myth. Young people aren’t having sex outside of marriage because the adults in their lives didn’t educate them, but because the adults are saying “it’s fine - do what you want”.
If those adults would actually give them knowledge, along with wise counsel about how dangerous it is to engage in sex outside of “a committed relationship” - aka marriage, with all the social and legal protections that come with it for the couple and the children that will likely be the result - then young people would get married and then have sex.
I’m not “wishing and hoping for a day when kids don’t have sex”. To me, wishing and hoping for a day when kids can have sex with no undesirable consequences is a whole lot sillier.
Well put Bryn. This notion that, "they are going to do it anyways (not just sex out of marriage but any self-destructive behavior) so let's try and remove all consequences" has been the direct cause of just about every society ill of the past seventy five years. And as we've seen with the trans stuff, there's no end to it as the more things are destigmatized, the more we get. We now have people arguing it's somehow compassionate to help kids cut their genitals off. Slippery slope on steroids.
This is the basic social conservative/social liberal divide that at it's heart is about exercising self control. Those who exercise self control are more successful in life by almost every objective measure; marriage length, physical health, mental health, financial status, legal issues, children's success, etc. This is blindingly obvious to most rational people. Bad decisions destroy people's lives and those of the ones around them.
Bottom line though is that this is a spiritual issue. People who exercise self-control usually do so out of accountability to God. People who behave recklessly, or even worse encourage others to do so, usually believe that they are accountable to no one. This is such an obvious reality that it boggles my mind that people cannot see it.
You misunderstood me. I have no problem with the human sex drive. We wouldn’t exist without it. I personally do not think it is necessary to wait until marriage, but I would counsel A young person to be careful to understand the risks and responsibilities, and try to have an experience with someone that they truly love. With very good birth control. I do respect people whose religious values make them want to wait until marriage. Again, not my personal issue. Just pointing out that expecting everybody to wait is unrealistic.
So what did you mean, then, when you wrote “the human sex drive has been a problem for thousands of years”?
Counseling a young person to “try to have an experience with someone that they truly love” is the problem, because it is full of assumptions and ignores reality. You don’t have to have “religious values” to understand that that “experience” can and often does lead to a baby, and then what? What if that person you “truly love” doesn’t truly love you? Abortion? A marriage that begins with duress? Single motherhood? Adoption, which is lovely for the couple wanting a child, but full of heartache for the foolish girl following your bad advice?
And that’s just the pregnancy possibility, what about the STD that will likely follow you the rest of your life? And no one talks about the very real emptiness young people experience with casual hook-ups.
You don’t have to have “religious values” to look at this with eyes wide open and see that there just is no upside to sex outside of marriage, only risks. Responsibility is not religious. And the adults in the room need to wake up and start talking about this honestly, the whole thing, not just birth control and fantasy love.
Btw, both of my children were conceived while I was using birth control. Good thing I was happily married.
I declined the guardasil for my daughter too way back when. Then a friend of a friend died of papaloma virus throat cancer at 33. You don’t get paps for your throat so I got scared and had her get them. I still regret it. Thank God she was okay and is now 21 weeks pregnant with our first grandbaby. And this child will have no shots ever if I have to homeschool her myself, I will. Luckily we still have exemptions in my state.
My sister had it in her tongue. It has a high survival rate but it sounds like the 33 yo waited until it was too late and it must have metastasized into probably the lymph nodes. Not good.
Yeah, my boys doctor asked me, why, as a woman, I wouldn't want my boys vaxxed to prevent girls from getting cervical cancer. I replied, "They are 12 and not having sex and when they do, they can wrap it up." When I pointed out the issues in Australia, he told me it was all bunk and did a google search to show me nothing showed up.
Interesting that a nurse from the Health Dept called. I never answer these types of intrusive questions regardless of who is asking them. I'll usually reply with "how is that your business?" or something along those lines. My pastor once pointed out how Jesus in the Gospels often answered bad-faith questions with a question. That made a big impression on me.
Every interaction like this has three potential outcomes, I'll come out ahead, stay the same, or come out behind. There is zero chance I'd come out ahead in this instance. I'll likely stay the same, but there is a chance I come out behind if I say something incriminating that this person in authority doesn't like. Why in the world would one choose to participate in a voluntary interaction with those potential consequences?
I was naive and since it was another woman figured she would level with me. And she did! This was around 2010, maybe. But now…would probably take your advice and not get into it!
I hear you, been there myself. Gray hair does have some advantages after all. I have to constantly remind myself of the things I did when I was younger and shake my head. Apologies if it came off as critical, that wasn't my intention.
Japan pulled it from the market due to all the injuries. But not the good ol’USA. We have commercials showing “cab dad” whose job is to keep his family safe.
The argument I heard was because it’s sexually transmitted getting boys the shots would make it less likely they’d transmit 😕 I think it’s a bogus argument but clearly some bought into it.
My friend's teen daughter was separated from her mom for the physical exam at the ob gyn. My friend specifically told the dr and nurse no hpv vax. This child was given the shot anyway and has self reported she has never felt the same way since.
Your friend should sue/report if possible. So sad😢 We parents & grands have to go beyond “stranger danger” to tell kids that even people who seem ok do not always have their best interest at heart. Especially if money is involved! 🥺
My son started a Cal State University last September, they have a meningitis vax requirement. We simply filled out the religious exemption form that a long-standing Board of Regents order requires schools to accept. It was not intrusive but simply requires students to affirm that they have a religious or philosophical objection to vaccines. It was approved no questions asked.
The school didn't make the form easy to find and did the old trick saying all students were "required" to get vaxxed without elaborating on exemptions. But they are there if you hunt for them.
Not being judgmental but curious why you take your kids to pediatrician for a "wellness check" when there's nothing wrong with them. Between vaxxing them up, trying to separate you from your child to talk about sexual deviancy, and asking you intrusive questions like "do you have a gun in the house" there is zero reason to do so. Remember a simpler time when we only went to the doctor when we were actually sick?
Our private school says the wellness visit is required by the state. A certain form must be completed at the visit. I researched this “law” and from what I can tell it is an effort to check kids for abuse. They have good intentions perhaps, but it is extremely invasive, the doctor inspects every square inch of my child looking for signs of abuse, completely unacceptable if you ask me and I’m about to forge the form next year.
I don't know about your state but most laws like this have an exemption provision to fend off legal challenges (though it's usually hidden or not disclosed). That way the requirement becomes technically voluntary. You have to find the actual law passed by the legislature and read the language in detail. Press releases and summaries put out by Public Health departments *never* state this and are intended to mislead you.
California has a requirement that all kids starting elementary school must have a dental exam (it was pushed by the Dentist's lobby). Although we had taken our kids to the dentist, we submitted the exemption because screw these people. Accepted with no questions asked.
And the school nurses will never mention exemptions. I'm wondering how to get the word out to parents of young children since the medical providers are hiding the very existence of exemptions from families.
This is where attorneys could really help, by reading the language and explaining it in layman’s terms so citizens would be armed with arguments and be able to opt out. They could post in a place that would be easy to find and accessible.
Yup, some orgs like the National Vaccine Information Center have done this for vax laws, but I've never seen it for something like this.
One thing we have to our advantage is knowing the exemption provision is almost always there. Laws are written by lawyers, and lawyers are cautious, detail-oriented people (unlike Public Health press hacks). Knowing it's there makes it pop out when you find it in the law text.
There is something wrong. She has chronic conditions. These are most likely from childhood vaccinations. Functional doc suggested I get any blood work done through doctors so insurance will pay.
So sorry Kim, she is in our prayers. We are in the same boat with our older son and thankfully a GFCF diet and protein supplements have made a huge difference for him. Stand your ground mom, you are doing the right thing on the vax (but you know that). I'm sure you can get an exemption for college. Even here in California (which doesn't have a childhood vax religious exemption) they have them for college. The National Vaccine Information Center is a great resource if you need help. God bless.
Thank you, Jeff. I have extreme guilt about ever having vaccinated her. But I did not know then what I know now. She is on a gluten free, low fodmap diet. And supplements. It’s helping but always a struggle.
I know it's difficult for moms. Years after my son's issues started my wife told me the same thing, the guilt. Men and women are so different, it had never even entered my mind. I was angry that we had been manipulated into doing it but never felt guilty. Once my wife told me I was shocked, I had no idea what she was going through.
You were deliberately manipulated by a very sophisticated campaign that toyed with your emotions. They told you that you would be a bad mom if you didn't give your child the shots. (This is why I think it hits moms so much harder, they don't say this to dads.) They used your God-given maternal instinct against you in a despicable fashion. It was a cynical and evil, and done just so they could make money.
I know it's easy to say but you have nothing to be guilty about. You were doing what you thought was in your child's best interests and were betrayed by people that you trusted. Betrayed by people who's very job it is to help you protect your child. That's not your fault. About the only thing that comes close is a child being abused by a religious figure that claims to follow Christ. It's that bad.
Lay that guilt at the feet of Jesus. He knows what kind of mom you are and how much you love your kids, He will break those chains of guilt. And know that everyone here is pulling for you and that you'll use that righteous anger to never let anyone ever again hurt your child. I know it sounds trite, but God does use the trials to transform us even though we can't possibly understand how in the moment. God bless and prayers up.
yes also 71.- my dad was a pediatrician who did house calls and traded with the local farmers for bags of Potatoes, tomatoes etc.
he talked a lot about preventive medicine which I think, knowing him, was about avoiding sugar and candy and eating more whole foods, not prepared ones and no chemicals added.. and less tv, more exercise, drinking water, instead of soda, etc.
Doc Gamm tended to my dad when he got chewed up by a chain saw, delivered all 6 of us kids and stitched up our family as needed. Small village in MN. Nobody had a choice, really. Thank God, he was a good Doc.
That's my question. Like ... someone takes their kid with nothing wrong with them to a doctor so that the doctor can say that there is nothing wrong with them.
Does any of that make any sense. Is that or is that not a usurpation of all parental authority? And the adult goes along with it like some knee jerk cast in cement consent.
I cop to fear on going along with the program. The court system was part of that. That, and at the time, late 20c in the immediate wake of the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, I didn't know any better. If I knew then what I know now, the court system would still loom. I take your point, truly, but from the outside not every parent's choice can account for the subject circumstance. Just presenting another point of view. No intention to instigate anything heated.
In my case, there IS something wrong with my daughter. The functional doctor recommended I take her for blood work purposes. She is chronically ill and needs checks. Sometimes things are not cut and dry when your kid is ill. Otherwise, she would not be going to the doctor.
No one is saying never take your child to a doctor. If there are symptoms of a problem then absolutely one should get their child checked out.
What we are saying is that "well baby checks" are an excuse to get your child into the office to shoot them up with vaccines. That's the point. And most pediatricians are the worst pharma pushers of them all as they get paid large bonuses for hitting vaccination targets. The child is a revenue stream for them, they aren't unpaid missionaries helping poor starving kids.
It's fascinating that people think a single case of a pediatrician doing good somehow invalidates the the obvious corruption of the well baby visit premise. Hopefully this doesn't come across as overly harsh but this is shallow thinking. It's the same logic used to validate the entire vaccine program, if it saves just one life then the whole thing is worth it. No that's not true. We have to assess not just the possible consequence (your child might die!!) but also the likelihood. That's how one assesses risk and determining the prudent action, not just based on fear-mongering.
Pushing on this a bit further, did the pediatrician fix the child's vision problems by catching it early? Does the child have 20/20 vision now? Of course not. At best the pediatrician got the child wearing glasses earlier than she might have otherwise. That's all well and good but hardly a medical miracle. The parents, you, or a teacher would have noticed it soon enough without the well baby visit.
It's stories like yours that have been used to guilt well-meaning parents into regular office visits otherwise they get tarred as "bad parents". I don't mean this toward you as I know that's not your intention. But this is exactly what the medical industry does and it is their intention.
I think the answer is in her comment, "I pretty much lost it..." Good for her. People just passively accept a lot of this stuff but a good dose of well-timed righteous anger can work wonders.
Any touch point with medical providers (these days) is just a chance to be shaken down to take pills, jabs, and procedures. The medical industry is a total mess now.
I can relate. Our doctor threw a fit when my son said no, so he called me into the examining room. I confirmed he was not to be given the vaccine. He said I was putting the “boy” at harm. I said he already has severe allergies and his immune system was not strong enough. He left the room and a nurse came in with a tray loaded with syringes! I asked her what are those for, we said no. She went and got Dr. Benadryl (the name I gave him when my son was younger). He came back into the room screaming at me. The a-hole had the nerve to tell me the government would take care of him. I looked him dead in the eye and said no means no. When he stormed out the nurse said to me, “Good for you. I remember you. Where have you been?” We hadn’t gone to him for 12 years. The only reason we were there, was to get a copy of his records for college. We were able to file a philosophical exemption because they were still accepted in 2009.
The department of defense did a study on its personnel in 2019 to see how effective flu vaccines were. It turns out that the flu vaccine raised your risk of all other respiratory viruses by 36%, including the coronaviruses that were circulating at the time.
Of course. The flu shot rarely matches the form in circulation, so your immune system is all primed for something that doesn’t exist while the stuff that does exist shows up and knocks you flat.
I foolishly let my daughter have the flu shot 1.5 years ago and she has been more sick than the whole rest of her life. It really makes me upset. The upside is she knows she's been sick more times that she'd like and won't ever take another. Very hard lesson to learn.
Do you have a link to this study??? At some point there was a study done in South Korea, I believe, which did a flu vaccine v inert placebo study on flu vaccine effectiveness. I had the link to it on an old computer, which I no longer have and I can’t find that study any longer. That old study showed equal rates of the flu in both groups but far higher rates of other respiratory illnesses in the flu vaccine arm. I’d love to read the study you are referencing!!!
For me, the takeaway line in that paper is, "Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses." That applies equally to the mRNA spike protein and one's natural immune system.
Agreed. I’ve never had the flu shot, it’s been over 20 years since I’ve had the flu. Mom, in the few years before her death, had bad reactions but her doc had her keep getting it until I stepped in.
PS please watch TheHighwire online if you are not already doing so. They do in-depth investigative journalism, not only on science and medicine, but on climate and all of the globalist tactics, gender issues, and nefarious practices. If you watch the show, which is Live on Thursdays at 2 PM Eastern, and replayed anytime after that., you will be a few years ahead of the curve on events that are important to health and humanity. And it is entertaining and extremely inspirational!
I’ve watched Del since he began in 2017. Watch Peggy Halls latest Substack video. She brings up some troubling info on a new ICAN and Aaron Siri lawsuit. You need to read it for yourself. Peggy makes some good points, that if true, will make me stop donating to them. I’ll see if I can find the link.
I saw this as well and it was concerning. I wrote to ICAN for their side of this, as I can’t make a decision on heresay, and received the following response: (I have not yet checked into it)
“Thanks for reaching out, we appreciate you letting us know. I’m sorry for the confusion here. ICAN Legislate began promoting this bill in August 2023, and its primary purpose is to create a new exemption based on minimal safety standards:
See link to The Highwire episode (with relevant time stamp) posted by @Fed up in this expanded thread. The text of the proposed law is very crafty - a sort of middle finger at all the craftiness in bills-passed-into-laws used against the People at every f'n turn by industry after industry. I would say rest assured Del and Aaron Siri & co know precisely what they're doing, but that is for you to decide on your own.
"But what really threw me for a loop was when a few of Bigtree’s associates reached out to me privately defending Bigtree saying that I, myself, was in error and that surely, Bigtree’s bill was nothing like I was making it out to be, because Bigtree is “one of us.”
Well, the thing is: I didn’t criticize Bigtree, I criticized his bill, and I stand by my analysis of it."
The childhood vaccine schedule was bought and paid for by Big Pharma…with no basis that it protects or prevents anything the ‘shots’ are supposedly for. And how they guarantee this, is that they have bought many state legislatures, to pass legislation that requires ALL children be ‘vaccinated’ with this horrific and injurious ‘schedule’ to be able to attend school in these states. (And many states like California allow for absolutely NO exemptions.)
It’s a giant CASH COW for them and the pediatricians and health care provider groups that push them. And in turn these children become “lifetime patients” of the Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System from the ‘vaccine injuries’.
I agree, the court ruling set some really good precedents to build on. Aaron Siri has been doing exactly what you are requesting backed by Del Bigtree. I'm sure they'll be all over this.
There's lots to choose from but this is my favorite quote from the court, "Litigants who have already demonstrated their willingness to tactically manipulate the federal courts in this way should not be given any benefit of the doubt." Yes!!
The court is saying that people who routinely lie and/or act in bad faith are probably doing it this time too until proven otherwise (i.e. not given the benefit of the doubt). Hardly precedent setting but finally some common sense, by their fruits you shall know them.
But is it true? Been following Mercola for years & still get daily newsletters from him, never heard him pushing psychics. I’ve never heard of Peggy Hall until yesterday. 🤷♀️
Many people are. Here are a few Dr. Peter McCullough, Steve Kirsch, Dr Pierre Kory, RFK, children’s health defense, a great organization led by warrior moms called PERK. There are many many others. The great lawyer Aaron Siri and the organization ICAN (informed Consent Action Network) I have been battling the CDC and FDA for years, and have had many victories and are building a foundation of precedents that can be built upon. ICAN is a great resource if you are interested in helping. They regained the religious exemption for school children in Mississippi, and are trying to free the five remaining states in the country that will not allow religious exemptions. ICAN is a fantastic nonprofit organization to donate to.
They bastardized the term vaccine sufficiently to make all vaccines a therapeutic which makes them all optional? And let’s stop pretending the old vaccines were preventing disease as I am now told I need an MMR booster in my 40’s, a flu shot every year, chicken pox booster for my nephews in their 20’s, pneumococcal booster… Booster is the key word here - vaccine therapeutic. Therefore, all can be deemed optional.
As a farmer, I can tell you balls are good for more than courage. They cause adventuresome behavior, stubbornness, a certain type of Don’t Screw with Me behavior, and other desirable traits.
It doesn’t take courage for a bull to chase me out of the pasture, because he’s easily big enough, as are the steers, but only one of them causes me to watch closely to see if he’s looking at me.
More of our men need to exhibit a strong enough Don’t Screw with Me and My Herd attitude to scare the bureaucrats and politicians.
As a friend with two daughters says , the womens' movement spent decades emasculating and criticizing masculine behavior, but now they regularly complain there are no real men left? Duh?
Well, a friend of mine coined the term “political castration” (PC) to describe the behavior of so many politicians and other “thought leaders” in our society today. Geldings and steers and capons behave differently than when they were “intact”…so…
'Spineless cowards' gives a much stronger message and is as insulting as it gets. But, we live in an age of 'talking pigs' and it is getting worse. I have been guilty as well but I am trying to control my choice of word usage when angry which is quite often with these Godless, cowardly, communist turd munchers, driving the bus. :o)
Yes. My daughter-in-law, who faithfully waited for God to bring the right man into her life, is almost at the end of her first pregnancy at the age of 38. She and my son were able to make this baby without the fertility treatments that are so common today. And they are so happy, except for the anxiety about what the medical world may do their child.
When my DIL was four years old, she got a baby brother. She had all the play equipment to mimic her mother’s actions in caring for the baby; bathing and changing and feeding her baby doll. But at around 2 years of age, the brother, who had been developing normally up to that time, suddenly regressed and became a different child. Today, we would say he is autistic. But 30 years ago, his parents and even the family doctor didn’t know what to make of it.
My DIL is dealing with the fear that this will happen to her child. She is a very earnest well educated, professional person and has researched exhaustively, has a functional physician and has done everything health wise that she knows to do. My heart aches for her.
She says her brother went through several courses of antibiotics in his early life because of ear infections. She believes this affected his immune system and he was overwhelmed by the childhood vaccines given to him. (Which 30 years ago was far fewer than today!).
Her present concern is she tested positive for group B strep (GBS- this is mandatory testing for pregnant women now) and either she has to receive antibiotics during labor to ‘supposedly’ prevent the baby from getting GBS or she has to stay an extra day at the hospital so they can ‘monitor’ the baby. The antibiotics would enter the baby’s bloodstream.
She and my son are resolved, after extensive research, to not vaccinate the child. They’ve been able to find a supportive pediatrician. (Miraculous in itself, as almost all of them will refuse you if you don’t vaccinate.)
If you pray, please pray for this decision they have to make about the antibiotics.
We really don’t want them to be ‘monitoring’ the baby’s health for an extra day. We have zero trust that ‘health’ is their priority.
I don’t even know where this GBS business came from. I had four midwife deliveries going back 50 years ago and there was no such thing. My children were having their babies some 15-30 years ago and they don’t remember such a thing.
Sorry, this is long and may not seem relevant to many of you. But if you’re not concerned about the fact that Autism rates have increased from 1 in 10,000 30 years ago to 1 in 5 today, you better be! I worked extensively with Autistic children in the public school system, and I do not believe civilization can survive with 20% of the population thus afflicted.
Something has to be done to stop this massive vaccine madness.
Kind of worried that this decision might create a precedent where if they can "prove" that a vaccine will protect others and not just the recipient then it will be able to be mandated... I'd like to have Jeff's thoughts on that. Anybody else thinking the same thing?
When I think how angry and righteous I used to be about parents who refused to vaccinate their kids -this was before Covid....it's very embarrassing to me. Once I realized with Covid what they were doing, it took less than a split-second for me to realize it has likely been that way all along. Oh, the apologies I need to send out....
We can also start standing up for our pets and saying NO to all these recommended vaccines. Many of the human policy overeaches started w pet policies. Try traveling w an unvaccinated dog. Nearly all kennels, day cares, and many hotels, etc. require proof of vaccination. (Early test runs for vaccine passports!) Veterinary medicine is ALSO Rockefeller Medicine.
Now, someone with real balls, needs to argue that the rest of the CDC childhood schedule vaccines “protecting others” needs to be cast into doubt, as the compelling evidence points to nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation.
Oh, the science is conflicted? Great. So there’s doubt. Let’s start prying at the cracks.
Begging as a mother on behalf of all rational parents everywhere.
I agree completely! Babies today are getting a sickening amount of vaccines before they are even a year old! Way more than 20 years ago even!
I’ve come to the conclusion we need no vaccines. And, the number of shots forced upon children is truly horrifying.
Me three. Mine are grown but if I had to do it again ....
And we have an infant godson who I'm terrified for.
LOVE on that godson, Fred--pour the Holy Spirit love over that child!!
this should get some flames going in the CDC/FDA is conflicted??? story.
Here's chapter 1 of "Turtles All the Way Down, Vaccine Science vs. Myth" FREE online to read and learn what a scam jabcinnes have always been.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eMhzsB_-RT9KFhJcLJFhzJdIgIAou-W8/view
What will you/we learn in the quick 87 pages (all reference sources are also included)? True 'placebos' have never been run on ANY vaccines.
Pharma knows this and has gone to great lengths to prevent them from ever happening (I suspect they've done the studies and know, and therefore don't want the unwanted truth to come out).
Enjoy, learn and pass along
I am downloading it to a thumb drive right now, Walking--many, many thanks!
Circle back when you are done with chapter 1, and I will pursue finding you chapters 2 through nine. Best.
It'll be awhile until I get back with you - this is very 'heavy' content - won't 'read' like a novel--LOL!!
Let me know if you have any questions as this is an area where I have completed coursework to better understand the lunacy of this entire Mafioso business.
Ditto.
Dr Mercola agrees with you
(Long time follower of Mercola. He was my “gateway” into understanding health.)
I learned about Dr. Mercola while walking my little rescue Maltese in a local park back in 2013 (from a fellow dog walker whose dog's issues were helped by the holistic veterinarian, Dr. Becker, who partners with Dr. Mercola - and have followed his essays and use his supplements as the Spirit leads me to do so. Good man!!
"holistic veterinarian, Dr. Becker"
Does Dr. Becker have thoughts/solutions to canine cancer?
Treating mine with IVM currently but always looking out for extra input/help/suggestions/tools that have helped.
https://Fenbendazole.org and
https://fenbendazole.substack.com
are two locations I frequent.
Walking...I just checked Dr. Karen Becker's website and she does not post her "essays" on her website - I signed up to receive her newsletters once again (I had unsubscribed a few years ago because I didn't have the time to read them anymore). I imagine if you contacted her by e-mail she would answer any and all questions you have--she's that kind of "mensch"!! Here's a link to her website anyway: https://drkarenbecker.com/dvm/
Excellent sites to follow, not just for pets, but for us humans as well!
I will check our Dr. Becker's website and send you any helpful links I discover, Walking!! Hang tight - (smile)!!
Go Mercola! No jabs no seed oils no leaky gut.Thank you Dr.
Dr. Mercola was my "go-to" for years but lately something seems to be amiss with him. I don't know what is going on but I am a bit skeptical when I hear things like he is consulting with a psychic. I do see a difference in him. I just pray that he is ok.
Kathryn I agree that something is amiss with Dr. Mercola. I am more and more uncomfortable reading the content of his daily articles. He has changed his stance on so many of his previous held health positions. It just unsettles me.
I love Dr. Mercola and am so grateful for all I have learned from him. A few days ago I watched this video related to what has been going on with Dr. Mercola. I recommend watching it rather than reading it to gain a better understanding. Click on the arrow to listen to Barbara Fisher talk. So heartbreaking! I really hope he will be ok.
https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion
I agree with you CitizenA. I started noticing a difference in his health positions since last winter, and not just one or two, but so many that I found it unsettling, and a red flag was raised.
I keep hearing that but his newsletter seems fine to me. Same great info.
I haven't seen anything glaringly different in Dr. Mercola's newsletters that I receive - mostly they come through bi-weekly or monthly. What is 'changing' in his advice because I haven't noticed it.
He’s changed his stance on carbs and keto diets, but explains very well his reasons for the change. I happen to agree with his new approach to that area. I still glean good information from his articles, and also from the commenters on his articles. I take what is useful to me, and ignore anything that doesn’t apply. I think that’s all we can do, no matter the source. If there’s one thing we’ve learned over the last 4 years, it’s be skeptical of everything and do your own research!
BINGO - your mindset mimics mine, JudyC!!
I just finished reading today's C & C. Jeff's notes from his presentation at the NACL would be a "useful" sermon at any congregation where those in attendance are searching for an explanation of what happened and is happening to us.
SPOT ON - would definitely be better than some of the 'lightweight' sermons being preached in so-called "Christian" congregations - would give the attendees some real "meat" to chew on. Time to put away the "pablum" and get on to the REAL menu!!
I'm not a close follower of his, but I suggest that anything he recommends that came as a result of consulting with his psychic should be avoided at all costs.
Interesting news from the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) re Dr. Mercola.
https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion
Yep, although I have never really cared for Mercola, I did realize that he was right a good bit of the time. But lately....I'm personally not going down that path and hope he comes to his senses soon....
next step: there are no virus* correction: no virus has ever actually been shown to exist. they appear to have always been the fraud invention that opens the door to vaccines.
Drs Sam and Mark Bailey for much more info https://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-435-a-farewell-to-virology-with-guest-dr-mark-bailey--51376779
I may be a lone dissenter here, but when you say viruses don’t exist to people, that’s when you start to lose them and their eyes begin to glaze over and they begin to think crazy conspiracy theorist and they tune out anything else you have to say and disregard anything you had said before. If there are no viruses (and I really don’t care if you call them viruses or something else) then explain what causes measles, mumps, hepatitis, Ebola, Covid, etc
If you tell me Covid wasn’t real, the many people who experienced it firsthand would beg to differ. I have never been as sick as I was with Covid (and no I did not get the shot) and it was totally different than any typical flu I’ve had before. I lost my sense of smell and it took over a year for it to come back. I’m not saying it rose to the level of a pandemic, but there was something different going around, and I don’t think it necessarily helps the “cause” to say viruses don’t exist until you’re prepared to offer an alternative to what has made someone sick other than “oh, it’s the 5G”, or “it’s just your body detoxing”, or “its really past traumas just coming to the surface”.
To be clear though, I am against any and all vaccines and pretty much every other pharmaceutical product and allopathic medicine in general, because I don’t think “scientists” are anywhere close to smart enough to have a detailed understanding of how the human body actually functions, to be able to develop something that will not have unintended and potentially devastating consequences.
I feel like I could have written this word for word. I'm ready to entertain the thought that there are no "viruses" but until a reasonable explanation is provided for how illnesses clearly move from person to person, I feel like it's just a semantics game. Our family stopped ALL shots over 12 years ago. We are all very healthy and rarely get sick - but with 4 kids, usually when one catches something, it does move through at least one or 2 other kids. We never tested for Covid, but we most definitely had it at least twice. The first time, I had to use literally everything in my holistic toolbox to get well and I remember thinking that any other person would likely have needed significant allopathic treatment to overcome it. Our family actually traveled full-time during the majority of the pandemic - and ironically, only had "covid" while visiting our homebase. It was quite interesting to live a life of such freedom while watching so many people succumb to the narrative and live life trapped in their homes.
I wrote this a few weeks back. I made it as short and concise as possible about what viruses are, and what they are not.
It's the most reasonable explanation I found about ten years ago and I've been using the knowledge to prove it to myself and my family ever since. It's solid.
https://ariaveritas.substack.com/p/spells-of-covid-and-the-viral-illusion
Two readings of your article lead me to ask:
Are all of mankind's diseases self-inflicted, the result of poor nutrition, low levels of physical activity, environmental toxins, and/or fear?
I'm led to believe yes, more or less.
BEAUTIFUL - you're using the "truth tool" I just explained in my "comment" today concerning the "reality of viruses". Danke, Aria Veritas!!
Nice article, thanks for linking.
Covid ... real or not real?
Amazingly, all other causes of disease magically disappeared in 2020. Everything was Covid, Covid, Covid no matter what one caught or got. Ask anyone what they got and it was Covid and nothing else. This held true whether it was death certificates, hospital admissions, visits to local masked man pretending to be a doctor. So, to sum. Some people got real sick from something. Some did not. The people who got real sick from something called it 'covid' ... and the people who got sick with other things also called it 'covid'. So everyone got sick with 'covid' whether they did or not. Like Shakespeare said, "What is there in a name?"
By the way Russia, Russia, Russia is not Russia ... nor the Ukraine for that matter. Russia, Russia, Russia might be code for the United States, and only by some stretch of the imagination. But I would not know because I like mostly in the real world, even though this causes problems for me.
Yup. Even the guy who crashed his motorcycle in the LA Freeway and died because of his injuries didn't really sustain any life-thretening ijuries. He died of the covid thing, and the hospital, as a Big Prize" for ticking the correct box on the "cause of deah" form, got a bonus if $40K.
See how that works? Dangle a bit of gelt in front of an hospital administrator/money-man, and there IS no other cause of death than the Woo Flew.
Died 'with covid' was the same as died from covid.
What a scam!
Exactly. How would someone even know they had 'covid' when the tests are so nonsensical. There was so much obfuscation.
How easily people do themselves in by uncritically consenting to employ the terms their masters serve up them, and thereby unwitting consent towards furthering their own self-destruction. Covid, Long Covid ... empty of content.
I am glad to see that this bothers a few other people as much as it does me.
And influenza just….disappeared. Both are in the same family of viruses. Why was this fact ignored?
Karen, nancylee is correct that pathogenic viruses don't exist, though the way I prefer to say it is "those particles scientists call viruses have never been proven to do what they claim." The basic truth to understand is that Terrain Theory is backed up by science; Germ Theory is not. Here is an excellent video discussing this topic:
https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/The-End-of-Germ-Theory:b
Each of the diseases you listed do have other possible causes, all of the causes falling into one of two categories--toxins (bad food, water, air, EMF, etc.) or lack of something (insufficient vitamins, minerals, proteins, sunshine, contact with the earth, contact with other humans, etc.).
There are many great books that discuss the above in detail. I recommend Can You Catch a Cold? (Roytas), Virus Mania (Kohnlein, et. al.), The Contagion Myth (Cowan, Morrell), or The Invisible Rainbow (Firstenburg).
thanks for correcting my comment. the honest virologists say that virus have never been proven to exist. I'll be more careful in future.
I don’t agree or disagree with your statement or the linked videos assertion that viruses don’t exist. I simply don’t know as I am no expert. As I said in my original comment, I don’t necessarily care what it is called, terrain theory, germ theory, etc. My main concern is what I experience and observe firsthand. I don’t believe even our most intelligent scientists and doctors, including the ones you mentioned, have a clear and complete understanding of the complex and wonderful design that is our bodies and their interactions with the world around us. Only our Creator has that understanding and we are much better off to look to nature, which He provided for things to cure what ails us.
I believe this is backed up by the fact that I can’t think of a single disease that allopathic medicine has cured (but maybe I have missed something). Pretty much without exception, pharmaceuticals have unintended and undesirable consequences, at least in some people. Therefore, I think it is in everybody’s best interests to not only question the efficacy, or lack thereof, of any and all vaccines but also any and all pharmaceuticals (but no, I am not recommending someone discontinue all their prescriptions, this post does not constitute medical advice lest someone report me to the FDA).
When someone just throws out “viruses don’t exist” it goes against many people’s experiences and observations and it doesn’t move the needle in the vaccine or Covid debate, because many people experienced something that caused them or loved ones to be ill or possibly die. Call it Covid or call it the normal seasonal flu or something else but it was something. I’m not buying that it was 5G, an individual’s past or current traumas, stress, our psyche, or just our bodies normal detoxification process, all of which I have seen posited.
In my opinion, the debate should be, assuming for arguments sake that Covid exists, did the government have the authority to suspend our God given rights that are delineated in the Constitution and to require people be masked, distanced and injected with unsafe, ineffective substances? For me that would be a hard no.
Your not alone in your dissent.
I tried to like your post but the “like” button does not seem to work.
No Covid vax in our home
My daughter came home sick w Covid. Next day I had it. Two days later other two kids sick. I was really sick, I took a week off work, first sick time for me in over ten years. It was three more weeks before I was really able to function well.
When the tests are so ridiculous, how would you know if you guys had covid? Flu can do similar reactions.
Not throwing shade, just asking questions.
That’s a great question, although influenza is from a virus also. I also reject the validity of those tests in that they cycled them so many times that they certainly got a huge number of false positives. But if that’s true they shouldn’t miss an actual positive case. I’m not defending the Covid test they were designed to make everything seem worse for the masses and they worked very well for that.
I’m not a flu expert, I think I’ve had it a couple of times in my life, three maybe four times, I’m 61 years old.
When I think of flu I think of headache, fever, throwing up, bodyaches. What I had was much worse than that. I did not take a test and neither did my other two kids, my first kid that came home with it was required by their employer to take a test and they came out positive and they in fact had the same common symptoms, that is loss of taste, loss of smell etc. I did not lose taste or smell but suddenly cold water or any cold beverage tasted horrible to me. I could only drink room temperature water. That lasted for well over a year. I live in Florida I work outside all day every day and I could not have ice water because I simply couldn’t drink it - it tasted so bad to me. I also had other strange symptoms, I felt like there was twisted reinforcement bar writhing in my gut. It hurt so bad I’ve never experienced anything like that before, but the worst symptoms of all was exhaustion. It was awful that I felt better physically (after Hydroxychloroquine ) but I couldn’t hardly get out of a chair. I felt fine no fever no nothing but I couldn’t do anything, fortunately that in my job I’m the boss and I was able to assign work and just lay low because otherwise I would’ve had to take two or three additional weeks off because I just really couldn’t do anything besides show up.
I lost my sense of smell without getting Covid or being sick from anything. I also lost it every time I've had a cold. I don't think it's related to Covid (if there even is a covid). I just think we were poisoned. That would explain a nursing home out in the middle of nowhere getting it before anyone else. Say what? How did old people who never go anywhere, without visitors, get decimated by "covid"? Anecdotal "evidence" by people who say "I was never so sick... " well every year, someone has a bad flu that they were 'never so sick' from. This has happened anecdotally to me for 3 years running. Not that I was sick but that someone I worked with, am related to, or friends with got the flu and "it was the worst flu I ever had." I am guessing that that's how our memory works - we don't remember how bad the last flu was when we get the next one. The present one is always going to be the worst, esp. the older we get.
Yup there are no unique symptoms for convid, it's other diseases relabeled.
A 'virus' is a biological program designed to go in to action the very second a psychological problem is perceived. Say you were told you had cancer and had six months to live - Heaven forbid. That shock is registered in the brain IMMEDIATELY. The psyche is not biological, but the brain is. The brain's shock is relayed to a specific organ. For a death fright one will develop lung cancer (so-called). For a separation shock one will develop a skin cancer. There is a biological law involved.
The shock can be seen on a CT scan as a ring.
I wrote about it once if you have the inclination.
https://ariaveritas.substack.com/p/spells-of-covid-and-the-viral-illusion
The point is, a virus is a biological program for a specific section of the body.
Karen, you urgently need to watch this video, I'm certain it is the most important one you can watch today:
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1199911197683272
Anyone else reading this post, please watch it, and share it, its only 7 minutes.
Daniel, I don't click on links that I don't know what they are. If you give a brief description of what the video is, you might get more people who will watch it.
Okay, no problem. The video is of David Martin, the founding chairman of M Cam asset management company (and American patent auditing expert), at an International Covid Summit organized by the European Parliament in Brussels in May 2023, In it he states that the US was responsible for the making of both coronaviruses causing the outbreaks of severe acute respiratory syndrome - or SARS - in 2003 and the Covid-19 pandemic in the past three years., He discusses, with clarity, how the corona "virus" is a man made "virus" that is the result of manipulation begun in 1965. He provides the "receipts" and many more facts of which everyone should be aware. It was simply 7 stunning minutes of information to me. Its a crime against humanity for which there must be full accountability.
He was trying to find at least on State’s Attorney General back in Jan. 2021, on that infamous day, when he stood in front of the Senate building and read a list of statutes broken by the manufacture of the jab. I am surprised he hasn’t been derailed like Reiner Fuellmich in Germany.
I think everyone can now understand why this information has been censored and hidden from us. At least it was hidden from me since I just found out about it this week and wanted to share it as widely as I possibly could. Some Attorney General somewhere (Paxton in TX?) needs to conduct a full investigation, empanel a grand jury and start bringing indictments. Our federal government, giant pharmaceuticals, media, etc., are all in cover up mode.
I WILL PRAY THIS HAPPENS, Daniel - I hope you can share that information in a different link other than a Facebook one - perhaps a Substack article??
I hope everyone shares it Sharon. I hope our great friend Jeff Childers shares it since his voice is massively larger than mine.
so whether naturally occuring or man made from the start, a virus IS a thing.
No question the virus responsible for the covid madness IS a real thing. I've seen a number of solid pieces of evidence detailing HOW that particular corona virus was adopted as the starting point then manipulated/modified to become what is now called SARS CoV 2, after spending illions of OUR tx dollars to develop the final product. I've seen solid evidence tracing the origins and pathway tp the current version of it.
Tio, I'm surprised that is your takeaway. The far bigger issue is that they conducted the pLandemic against the people of the world - truly, a crime against humanity - and so far have completely gotten away with it. And not only that but in the US, they also changed the way we vote, without our consent, so they could manipulate and steal the election, not against Trump but against the people. And now we have an un-elected puppet and an administration doing immense damage, not only to the USA but the world - and so far have completely gotten away with it.
Danil your pons are valid and yet do not take away anything from MY point. I have read extensively on how the virus was designed and released (there are three plausible pathways to have ben followed from the point the virus itself was gain-of-function modified from its natural state, it is highly probable a combination was used to get it "out there"). Sraightaway our gummit's "response" was so obviously preplanned, the narrative already fully formed, the dithering by those "responsible" to act in such "situations". the lawfare that brought in mandates, crazy "prescriptions", the banning of anything even remotely a potential cure or adjuvant. ALL the pieces "happened" to be ready and primed within days of it being "found" in public.
HAD the Nürenberg Convention and tue US lw arisong directly from that been cited and ENFORCED nationwide, NO ONE could have been forced to slap oin those wretched mug nappies.. those devices are a "medical device" and canno be forced upon anyone. Hydrochloroquine is known to be VERY helpful in treatment of similar viral diseases. It was denied general use, again contra Nürenberg I have studied the precise mechanism by which ths drug prohibits the proliferation/replication of viral particles in humans. Simpel direct, known. But, contra Nürenberg, denied by our gummit poohbahs, illegally. Two long time dear friends of mine were in Nicaragua durong the nonsense, both got the covid. They were brought to "good" hosptials hich applied the US mandated "cure: go home, rest, take lots of fluids, and come back if it gets worse. They did it did they did...within a few days they put both of them on ventilators, they were both gone Home within a week. What made me FURIOUS is that any ten year old kid in Nicaragua can take the equivalent of about three dollars fifty, walk into any farmácia and in a coule of minutes walked back out with large supply of HCQ, gone back to their houses and cured them.
Enacting mandates conditioning your employment, membership in an organisation or school, ability to freely move about s you would upon taking that UNTESTED unproven experimental injection is directly counter to US law based upon the Nürenberg Protocls.
That ONE THING could have been deployed and used to end the entire madness, all mandates, experimental shots, prohibitions against proven medical treatments, and ended the pandemic within a few weeks.
NOW do you understand a bit more from where I am coming on "Nürenberg? The LAW is there, it ws scrupulously IGNORED, locked up and not mentioned in the general discussion regarding this manufactured scam.
My apologies, I was VERY pressed for time this morning and had not expected to find THIS topic addressed today. Hope I've been able to 'splain muh sewf a bit better.
Karen,
This might not 'directly' answer your question 'do viruses actually exist', but this article tackles the timelines of what was "Covid" and was it in fact a virus, or an airborne toxin emitted around the world simultaneously (think chem-trails as most are sprayed around humans, not out at sea where they'd have a better chance of really deflecting the sun's rays), but take a gander and let us know your thoughts. Complicated, I know.
https://sanityunleashed.substack.com/p/its-all-in-the-timeline
I agree -The virus or whatever covid is was made in a lab and is a bioweapon. The doctors treating the spike damaged know this. Others who deny it’s an issue just don’t know.
I totally agree with your consensus on "spouting off" to those who are SO ASLEEP they may never awaken. Perhaps couching the "virus discussion" with this phrase, "since science ALWAYS QUESTIONS medical discoveries, there have been NEW evidence to dispute the 'theory of viruses' their origin and modalities" or something on that order. THEN...you can share what you have learned from the TRUTH-SEEKING scientists whose work you trust.
Amen! Well said 🌟
I totally agree with everything you say. I get a little tired of people saying covid was/is just a cold because I've never had a "cold" like that before. No taste/smell and the fatigue was off the charts. I could barely make it across the room. I've had walking pneumonia before and I thought that was hell. It was a walk in the park compared to covid. So it drives me nuts when people claim that there are no viruses. Then tell us exactly what we had. Also I'm not jabbed.
Exactly, I had the same experience. It took me a month to feel like myself again and that only happened after I had several Vitamin C infusions. Even then, I couldn’t smell anything for a year and a half., hardly typical cold or flu symptoms.
I was lucky the smell and taste came back after a couple of months but the fatigue took weeks. I also developed a sinus infection probably from the nasty mask wearing. I've never had any kind of infection requiring antibiotic in my life and I'm 63. It all basically felt like all out war on my body. I thank God I've kept in shape with a lot of exercise and a low carb diet. I'm glad you are better. 😀
How do you know it was covid? Aren't the tests known for scamming?
Perhaps it was the flu? The CDC reported the flu somehow dissipated, as they were simply counting flu cases as covid cases.
Just asking questions...
You are not the lone dissenter, that is for certain.
Just because the official story regarding vaxxes is a lie doesn't mean every crackpot youtube "influencer" theory is true. Most of these people are either nuts, pushing crazy schemes for clicks, or chaos agents. Don't discount the last one as Pharma loves the "no virus" people as they make all pharma critics look nutty by association. It's similar to how the Flat Earth people are used to ridicule those who question the moon landings (based on solid evidence).
Obviously aspects of the terrain theory are true, people in poor health get sick easier. But that can be true and viruses still real, they aren't mutually exclusive. But these people play on humans inability to think in nuanced terms and propensity to swing to one extreme or the other. Hence they fall for every pied piper that comes down the pike.
Sasha Laptyova wrote a stack on this subject this week you may find interesting...
same here. I will watch the video but think it is a bridge too far for most, certainly me as I was SICKER WITH COVID (no jab) than ever before in my life.
Interestingly, I watched a video with Dr. Mercola and Suzanne Humphries. They both seem to believe in viruses because of childhood diseases like measles and chickenpox. These are contagious and then people don’t get them again. Most develop immunity. Unlike colds & flu that we get multiple times and are a lot of times very similar.
I don’t fully believe colds and flus are contagious as most times in our household we don’t catch or pass on one another’s illness. I have slept in the same bed with my husband for 39 years through all our colds & few flus and we never passed one to the other.
I do believe more investigating needs to be done.
Correct! The link you sent is good; Sam and Mark are warriors, as are Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, and others. The science is on the side of terrain theory, not germ theory. Here's another excellent video that comprehensively explains the failures of germ theory:
https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/The-End-of-Germ-Theory:b
Thank for this podcast link. Heads up to others… you have to listen to an intro that’s about 20-30 min. before the interview with Mark Bailey. The sound clip with Del Bigtree is one I have not heard before. He thinks the no virus theory should be ignored for now. He thinks that he’ll get more open listeners in government if the focus is vaccines are harmfull.
I agree. this "science" is completely corrupted by $$$$$
Right there with you. Like Dr. Peter McCullough said, 'vaccines are not the free lunch we thought they were. ' How succinct and accurate that has turned out to be. I think the long slow slide for the vaccine manufacturers has begun.
Trust Nature to sort things out.
True. The US has the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, and has worse rates than quite a few semi-developed countries.
78 or 79 doses of assorted “vaccines” by the time they’re 18! In the 60’s it was 3, in the 80’s something like 13. And we wonder why there is such a surge in autism, ADHD, autoimmune disease, etc! People can argue all day long about whether vaccines cause autism, for instance, but for the love of God, who in their right mind cannot see that pumping kids with 79 doses of ANYTHING is going to cause problems!
JudyC your right, no one needs to wonder. Autism, ADHD &autoimmune disease, is caused by vaccine. Period.
And allergies, I would not be surprised about that being linked to vaccines either.
Peanut 🥜 most definitely..like RFKJR says, we boomers knew NO one with such an allergy. Peanut butter and jelly was a staple for every child!
Allergies too RL. The 4 A’s- Allergies, asthma, Autism and ADHD are all caused by vaccination per the Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed research and book by Dr. Brian Hooker and Dr. Paul Thomas.
50% of children today suffer from some chronic medical/mental condition…all due to the Vaxx schedule.
Yes RL lots of evidence that the explosion of peanut allergies was linked to a vaccine adjuvant derived from something to do with peanuts...
And so many other allergies too, dairy, soy, eggs, tree nuts, so many that were basically unheard of until relatively recently.
And all foods that are rich in protein and vital for building a healthy body.
Add fruit due to latex.
And cancers, and neurological disorders…and on and on!
Indeed 😞
Austism absolutely has to be. There is one common denominator: vaccines.
You know who's the only candidate who has called this vaccine schedule into question?
RFK Jr.
That's the ONLY topic on which I agree with him.
Does that mean you are in favor of the US ruling elites' endless wars around the world? The deep state and social media's surveillance and censorship regimes? Serious questions.
Trump was so against endless wars that he didn't start any, the first President in a long time, for that, and of course he really doesn't like the deep state or surveillance and censorship, being their chief target for some time now.
I give him credit for not beginning new conflicts.
If he would say anything about going to war with the surveillance state, I'd give him a lot more credit.
Sometimes, in warfare, it's best not to tell your enemy what you plan, especially if they still have you tangled in the legal system with a possible (functionally) life sentence.
Fair enough. But with his participation with the swamp (in direct contradiction to his campaign promises) I'm not going to assume he's learned a damn thing.
Bottom line, he's either stupid and inept, or he's in bed with the deep state.
I believe the latter is more likely, though it could be some of both.
Would Soros and his puppets be doing all this to him IFthat were the case?
Not deep state for sure, or it wouldn’t be so committed to destroying him. Narcissistic to a fault, yes, but he truly cares about 🇺🇸. Not a unquestioning fan, but sane folks have no choice in 2024. RFK can’t win in our electoral system, and if it goes to the House, who do you think they’ll choose, regardless of who has the majority. Trust me, it wouldn’t be a R or RFK.
Hello!!! he's a committed ZIONIST supporting the WORST excesses - GENOCIDE- in Gaza. doesnt sound too anti war to me.
Oh, that's our greatest ally, who we have to pay billions to every year, and it's a crime in many places to criticize them, even though they hate you.
Please read his full stance. It is not what he began with, I believe is not what you are thinking.
I have researched RFK very carefully. What is it that you think we don't know?
He was against vaccines. He has changed his feelings/thoughts on them. Sorry unable to post where I read this but it woke me up. I felt at the time reasonable report, perhaps need to search. It was in his own words.
He is not anti-vaccine. He has stated this many times.
Yes he has…
he's against the lack of TESTING in Vaxes and if I remember correctly, MANDATES, masks, 6 ft bs etc.
Lack of testing is total BS…even they were ‘tested’ they wouldn’t be ‘safe or effective’.
Thank goodness I'm not alone here.
Never! your FB buddy here :)
Which I admired him for at the time. Unfortunately, RFK is a staunch supporter of the genocide in Palestine.
There is no Palestine.
By which do you mean, supporter of Israel?
Another warmonger state who we are stuck paying billions of dollars to each year. All for the fun of being subverted by them.
Such simplistic thinking. Helps you hold onto your prejudices?
He hired the pres of the Zionists of America to his campaign
Lynn, posted below/here regards CHD. Perhaps that is where I read his true stance on vaxxines.
yup! cant get around it.
Anyone hoping to become President will be a supporter of Israel.
It is complicated. This country will always stand with them having a right to exist, though they are heavy handed in their retaliation.
who is this "we", white lady?
I will never support the evil state of Israel, created by the Illuminati in Britain early 1900's Balfour Declaration to set Jews (not even jews, but Ashkenazi descended from KHAZARIANS- some of our REAL enemies) against Arabs (the REAL semites, btw.
its time to stop funding the MASS SLAUGHTER IN ISRAEL. cut them OFF.
I stand with Israel and their right to exist without fear.
Fine, write all the checks you want.
But Christian nations should give them a penny.
Can we take care of our own people first?
This has nothing to do with money. Given the backstabbing the United States has done to Israel throughout the decades, I would be happy to see all ties cut between our two countries. And I believe it is the United States that would suffer most for the loss of that alliance.
The Jewish people are the most brilliant and industrious in the world. Do you really not believe the U.S. has benefited from an alliance with that brain trust? A true financial reckoning of the relationship would look very different from what you’ve been led to believe.
Check out pulseofisrael.com. The Israeli people want answers from their military and intelligence leaders about their cooperation with the U.S. in attempts to harm, marginalize and maybe exterminate Israel. They realize the war they are fighting is both external and internal. They are learning to trust God.
For the first time, I saw expressed suspicion about the role of Nixon and Kissinger in the Yom Kippur War in 1973. The sabotage has been ongoing for a very long time.
There’s far more to the story than meets the eye. Don’t accept the simplistic, slogan laden, terrorists supporting version.
Hitler is so proud.
RFK Jr. is not ‘anti-vaxx’ per se. CHD has come out against the ‘childhood vaccine schedule’ and the EUA mRNA ‘shots’.
That is light years beyond Trump and Biden.
I have many reservations about RFK - I've never voted for a non-GOP candidate) but he's literally the only one raising questions about Fauci and the link between autism and other diseases and the childhood vax schedule.
Unlike Trumpers, I don't just assume a candidate believes what he says.
What's his stance on the trans agenda and the Green New Deal/green-washing, ESG an DEI?
What's Trump's?
No idea - and why are you asking about Trump? I'm asking about RFK, Jr.
his wife is a Hollywood Zionist. not much better than Jared Kushner's perverted stance, selling gazan beach real estate while children are still Bleeding on it.
RFK Jr is also against pesticide poisoning of our croplands, although (being a lifelong Democrat) he plans to use the police powers of big government to reach his goals:
https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/blogs/ag-policy-blog/blog-post/2024/04/02/rfk-jrs-plan-weaponize-regulators
RFK is a socialist and a lawyer.
And Trump is serial cheat who has refused to pay 100's of contractors he hired.
He's also a liar (remember "lock her up?)
He's also so incredibly incompetent that he hired Epstein associate Barr, who contemptuously ignored Trump and ran out the clock without doing a damn thing.
He also, of course, hired hundreds of deep state people from the swamp, and gave them power to run his administration.
He was so inept that he couldn't keep his promises to build the wall.
I could go on ad nauseum, but I'll just suffice it to say, we've all been voting GOP for decades. We've listened to GOP leaders (eg. Trey Gowdy, Lindsey Graham, and hundreds of others) promise to right the constitutional ship, cut spending, reduce the deficit, close the borders, etc. and not a DAMN bit of progress has been made.
At some point, you have to at least wonder "Are we being played?"
You know, folks keep claiming that he didn’t pay employees. Any evidence I’ve found was only when the work was so substandard as to require extensive revision.
As for “lock her up,” not pursuing that was the right decision. We DO NOT need more politicization and divisiveness. Does t make him a liar.
Does he say things at rally’s to play to his base? Surely. They all do.
Did you even bother to look at the resistance he faced at every single turn??? Yet he accomplished much; it’s there if you care to look. And I can personally vouch for many miles of new border wall in CA and AZ.
It was JB who immediately cancelled it, at terrific losses to taxpayers, and left huge piles of pre-constructed segments left to rust near Florence, AZ. Photos at your request.
If you think RFK, as much as there is to like about him, has a chance in heck to win this election, I implore you to review carefully the different States and Federal rules of the electoral college. And maybe review Perot - not a single electoral vote; not a single State.
Spoken like a cultist.
There are literally hundreds of people that Trump stiffed just because he knew he could.
Like the guy who supplied grand pianos to Trump's casino.
Like the little girls chorus he hired to sing at a 2016 campaign rally.
Like the contractor whose friends warned him not to do business with Trump, but he did anyway because he needed the business.
That last example, when Trump didn't pay, he sold all his business vehicles to satisfy his subcontractors. Then he committed suicide.
Trump is a thief and a liar, and an adulterer.
But just as Trump himself said, no matter what evil he commits, his cultist supporters will make excuses for him.
Hahaha! I’m not even a big fan. Please post some reputable sources for your claims. You’ve gotta agree that we’ve endured more than our share of media and social media falsehoods recently.
He's got a bad case of the ol' TDS.
😂 Nailed it!
we had this discussion a few days ago and came to the conclusion that rumor is likely not true.
Sorry, Liz - what rumor?
Trump has a lot more money than RFK that he earned by building stuff people wanted to buy.
The Kennedy family are socialists who acquired their wealth in the stock market and joining with the socialist democrats.
RFK is a 'liberal' lawyer and never created wealth.
TDS poster child.
Wiser voices with a longtime inside access tell us that Trump's choices for many key positions had to be blessed by Mitch "The Turtle" McConnell.
So McConnell was in charge?
More evidence of Trump's complete ineffectiveness.
I'm convinced that Trump was completely clueless at how the Executive Office works together with Congress.
TDS
Yes, but admitting it is the first step to recovery.
Good for you.
Who are you looking for as a savior to put into in the WH? I'm not looking for anyone to put there myself.
It's scary how so many people are looking to just one man to pin all their hopes on. The USA was meant to be a constitutional republic. But many want it to become a monarchy. They want a king who will lead them into battle because they no longer view God as sufficient.
Are you voting for Caligula? Well then you must be a Nero supporter. Neither. I don't want ANY emperor. The executive branch of our federal government was never meant to be a throne. And I have read comments by MAGA zealots talking about setting up Trump's sons as potential heirs after he dies.
Always refreshing to see another TDS knee-jerker pipe up. LOL.
Head of HHS? Sec of State? Sad that he cannot possibly get to 270 electoral votes. Impossible. Some States don’t have to honor their voter’s preferences, but that’s a fairly minor issue. I don’t trust the House to decide the election, so please pick a side for 2024 and don’t send us down that rabbit hole.
How many 28 year olds are even going to know that when they enroll their kids in school?
Not many I reckon. Little "Tommy" will be getting his shot 90% of the time.
Something wicked this way comes.
Ya, especially my former compatriots north of the border. They are devoid of questionable thoughts. It’s as if the past four years hadn’t happened.
Not my grandkids cuz I’ve been educating my own kids on the vaccine and medical fallacies for years!🙌🏼
Are your grandkids homeschooled? I imagine they are, because you have to be seriously vaxxed up according to the Childhood Vaccine Schedule, to attend public (an a number of private schools) in most states. Very few states allow for any ‘exemptions’ to “the schedule”…California NO exemptions! The majority of people who choose to not vaccinate their kids who live in CA, have been into homeschooling them for many years.
Actually, most states have some form of exemption. I think there are only 5 that have no exemption or only medical exemptions. The other 45 states have at least a religious exemption and a portion of those have a philosophical exemption as well. The schools will not offer up this information, you have to find it yourself.
True…but California allows ZERO exemptions. That’s one of the MANY reasons people are leaving CA!
Oh yeah... Richard Pan, who rakes in the dough from pHarma companies, has done a real job on California. He is a total piece of work.
For sure…Dr. Pan is evil personified and a total tool of Big Pharma.
The CDC knows vaccines cause autism. It’s been 10 years and Congress still hasn’t subpoenaed the CDC Whistleblower Dr. William Thompson. Pharmawhore Dr. Julie Gerberding became the President of the Vaccine Division at Merck for shredding the documents of the study the CDC performed, which showed a 260% increase in black male babies regressing into autism after the MMR. So, here’s a perfect example of a lack of transparency.
When I worked with autistic children in the public school system (retired in 2018), the vast majority were black males. Females of all races were probably less than 10% of that population.
So it would seem that black male children were most vulnerable. And for some reason, female children were a lot less affected.
It was discovered that black females were more susceptible to adverse reactions to the DPT vaccine by Dr. Aaby in Guinea -Bissau when he was able to look at his records comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated. The Highwire reported this sometime in 2019.
Brian Hooker MD wrote a book called "Evidence of Harm" that discussed studies that showed that young black males were much more likely to develop issues from the MMR if they had it before the age of 3 than any other demographic. The CDC made him throw that data away.
Black babies, eh? Margaret Sanger (Hillary's idol) is applauding in hell.
The "vaccines" have nothing to do with health, they make us un-healthy. But they do make the giant pharmaceuticals and their captured "government regulators" immensely wealthy, with our tax dollars and those of virtually every country on the planet. Human cockroach mr fauci and his underlings in NIAID, and others in NIH, CDC, etc made hundreds of millions of dollars in royalty payments. WTF??? How are civil servants allowed to make millions in royalties off the pharmaceutical companies they are supposed to regulate to protect us?
Same way our elected officials are allowed to engage in insider trading, or get paid $900,000 for a forthcoming book deal….
The bipartisan Bayh-Dole Act is the culprit.
Can't imagine why it was bipartisan?? Perhaps because all of the uniparty dems and rinos steal from us like bandits!
In 1982 when my first child was born, it was 7.
that's what i thought. i was born in 71'. I think it may have been less than that back in the day.
I was born in 1960. 1971 is the year they lined us up at school and gave us a shot. I don’t know what it was. I wonder if it was a measles booster because soon after I had my left eardrum burst and I failed all the school hearing tests. All the little kids getting tubes in their ears is tied to the MMR.
born in 52 I remember 3 during my entire childhood. Polio, MMR, and maybe one other.
When I was born in 1952, there were no vaccines at birth and I think I got the Diphtheria/Tetanus and Polio. That’s it.
Born 1947. Ditto those two. Being a Pittsburgher, I was in one of the early trial groups for Jonas Salk's jab. Got it in a building which is now part of the UPMC complex. I bear a faint ring-shaped scar on my upper arm to this day from the Salk vax.
Smallpox vaccine left that scar.
I like that “vaccine cult” is a good name and or “vaccine worshippers” for sure. They sure love throwing around the label of “anti-vax “ if you don’t believe in jabbing.
Covidians.
Vaccinators!
This can only be a Vaccine Cult, a form of worship where medical self-flagellation is obligatory. Some people are attracted to this cult because they like metal objects hanging on their bodies because it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling, something like light up Christmas trees fulsome with sparkling Christmas balls.
You may think my scribbling here a tad bizarre. But I assure you! It is not ... and no more bizarre than the people who saw Mr. Covid lurking around every corner, twist and turn of their pathways. Ah yes! The Ubiquitous Mr. Covid. He is Everywhere.
👏💪
Other countries children don’t have the allergies or autoimmune issues kids here have. Vax schedule !
My only child was born 62 years ago before all this insanity. I can't imagine being a mother today with young children.
I would opt not to have them, sadly. I have 2 grown children and neither want to have children until they see what’s going to happen. This is very common amongst their friends. Just another reason we are depopulating.
My children were born in 1985 & 1990 - vaccines were a normal thing at that time, we didn't give it a second thought as their checkups consisted of the Dr. explaining what the vaccines were for. Neither of my kids were harmed. Fast forward to 2007 today, as a grandma of 8, out of them all 4 girls and 4 boys only 2 of them appear to have some difficulties. I firmly believe it was the vaccines that caused it.
2 out of 8 is TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT. No offense meant but, if your investments had a 25% failure track record, you'd change brokers.
A quarter of them were vax injured, how do we allow them to do that to our children?
Because now they get so many more!!! It’s insane what is given to children—annual covid and flu shots, Hep A/B!!!!
*DURING* Psyop-19 [NOT to imply that said operation is over] it went from 72 doses to 90 (***NINETY!!***) This has gone way past 'obscene,' past 'criminal,' past 'tragic,' and reached 'profoundly evil.'
Newborns on day one are getting vaccines that are totally not needed.
way more than 50 years ago!! AnnieMarie.
Shoot. I think I only had 5 or 6 when I grew up
My Mom is 96 and in great shape, and can’t even remember her last vaccine. She declines them all and has for decades. She was raised on a farm with almost all the family’s food produced by themselves. Somehow, with the medical indu$try being what it has become, and food being processed and even produce being lower in nutrients, I don’t think we’ll be seeing as many people in the future who reach their 90s in good fettle.
hey! that's cool. My grandmother is EXACTLY the same and she turns 96 in 2 weeks.
she was disgusted by the cowardness of the American public.
she also thinks we're heading for civil war. I've never known her to be wrong on big issues.
There’s a lot of wisdom and experience in an observant person who’s made it as far as their 90s!! My Mom said the covid vaccine felt “all wrong” to her and declined it, and she also said, “I don’t want the world to shut down for me.” She saw right through the whole scam of coercing people to “protect grandma.”
yeah, my grandmother was disgusted that we put the welfare of those short for this world above the children.
i mean she was absolutely horrified by it.
this was something every prior generation understood. It's as if there were a near autistic level of selective amnesia.
Bizarre
This is probably part of the reason covid was created to target the “elderly”. Not only are they deemed “useless eaters”, they KNOW stuff. They know what it’s like to live through the Great Depression, they know what fascism looks like, they know how to survive without the nanny state etc…
And many of them are not shy about speaking up.
I was a military kid, so I got jabbed, but I got hammered being a veteran.
It is unconscionable what DoD forces upon our military, and then when they are injured by these vaxxes, gaslights them by claiming they're crazy.
I was born in the early 50’s so had 3 growing up…until the age of 9, when my family moved to Libya. We were plied with multiple vaccines (typhoid, TB, Cholera, smallpox, and polio) as was everyone I knew overseas. Nonetheless, still WAY less than now, and we never knew a single kid who had a heart attack, a turbo cancer, had autism, ADHD, etc, etc, etc! Most in my generation, if asked, will say the same, those afflictions were just about unheard of!
Yes please. My teen had a well check this week and the doctor tried to convince me that she HAD to have 3 meningitis vaccines in order to go to college. Nope. Not doing that to her again. I pretty much lost it and she then led me to the option of exemptions.
Bingo!! Stop taking your children to “well checks”. When you take your 7 year old car, to the Dealer for a certain mileage check, is there ever a time that you drive away without them telling you need a new something or something needs attention???
Do you go to a Lawyer for a check up to see if you need to file a lawsuit that you didn’t know about?
I worked in healthcare for over 20 years. "Well checks" are nothing more than a process to get you back into the clinic for a billable event. Pediatricians are notorious for this because of the fact the ages they treat don’t have chronic conditions like adults. Big Food and Big Pharma are doing all they can to change that, but it doesn’t happen overnight so "well checks" are needed to pay the bills.
Good point - I hadn't thought about the fact that pediatricians aren't dealing with the chronic conditions. Although, in recent years, there has certainly been an uptick in the four A's - Asthma, allergies, autoimmune diseases, and autism that should help their bottom line.
They deliver the cause of the chronic illness and autoimmune diseases.
And if at all possible, get you on some meds for one thing or another, whether you need them or not.
Pediatricians make big bucks if they can vaccinate a high percentage of the children. I tell people to avoid pediatricians like the plague!
My only regret is that I have but one "like" to give to this post!
I’m liking so many in this article my finger is bleeding 🤣 I love you all and your critical thinking skills. God bless each one of you and keep speaking up. Don’t stop! Some say there’s a lot of talk but no action. But talking out loud about what-must-not-be-named IS taking action and brave at that during these times. We give each other courage so that when an opportunity (crossroad) to actually physically do something we are equipped with the necessary courage. So I Like. Like. Like!!
And Fred mine is that my “like” button is disabled (as it is for many of us that have complained of the same problem.) Beyond frustrating when I do not want to comment on EVERY post I like, but do want to add my approval by clicking the “like” button.
I wonder if anyone is working on this problem, or even knows it exists, or who can we even contact to fix it? I see this same complaint on OTHER SUBSTACKS besides C&C.
I think you’re right. She will be a senior next year. We should just be done with them since they aim to injure.
There are foolish people that do take older cars to the dealership for "wellness checks". An acquaintance asked for advice on this just the other day as he had taken the car to a dealership for an oil change (first mistake). He asked them to look it over and the came back with $10k in "recommended repairs". None of them were warranted except a minor coolant leak which they were overcharging by a factor of three to repair.
A concept with initial good intentions, preventative health care or preventative maintenance, has been completely corrupted by a unethical system to fool people into spending money on stuff they don't need. They use fear-mongering and the customers ignorance to pressure them. It amazes me that most people still can't see this and take this stuff seriously rather than laugh at these people and walk out.
I've never understood why people see their doctors for this weird thing called a "wellness check." If you are well, why would you go? And these days, even if I don't feel well, I don't go. 😂
I am 83 and we grew up in a time when kids didn't get rushed to the ER for every little thing. The only time I saw a doctor was for a Polio shot and once he came to the house when I had a bad case of measles. When we got cuts or scrapes, it was iodine and a bandaid. We weren't at all poor; rushing to doctors just wasn't done.
I’m 73 and the first time I saw a doctor was for a college entrance physical in 1969.
I only saw a doctor once in my life in my childhood: to get some necessary stitches on a cut. It never occurred to my mother to take me or my siblings to the doctor for normal, childhood illnesses. She certainly wouldn’t have taken us to a doctor for a “wellness check”. She knew if we were well or not already.
Oh how I miss Common Sense😢
My daughter does have chronic issues, which I 100% believe are from childhood vaccines. My functional doctor told me to play the game to get the insurance to get blood work done so we could keep an eye on her.
It's like convid. How would you even know you had it without a test?
Yes!!!!!
This reminds me of my mom's strategy for a pushy salesperson who wanted her to buy an extended warranty. She told him to that she had every confidence that the product was such good quality, an extended warranty wasn’t necessary. He didn’t know what to say back 😆
The irony of doing a hard sell job on a product only to turn around and claim that the product really is a piece of crap that you can’t expect to last, so you need to pay for an extended warranty!
Right?? 😂😆 My mom was very savvy to use that tactic 😁
Sounds like the vaxx program.
Last shot didn't work, you need to take another.
Yes! THIS ⬆️
Walmart checkout cash register prompt: "Would you like to buy an extended warranty on your new flat screen TV?" That would be the TV which will last for ten years of normal use.
Actually they even ask if you want to buy an extended warranty for that mechanical pencil you just bought or that SD card. 🤣 It’s for everything now. $15 toaster? Want a warranty? Um no thanks I’ll just buy another if it breaks 😂
As an old lady on Medicare, I have had several calls from my insurance provider to have them come and do a "home health visit", they'll give me a $15 bonus if I do it.
My thoughts since CV is, if they have to pay you for it, it's probably not in your best interest.
They make sure you don’t have fall risks inside the house and basically check your blood pressure. Not really helpful unless you want company.
Medicaid does the same. They will pay you a bonus to have an annual dr visit. Bribery 101. If someone wanted to have an annual appointment, no bribe "bonus" needed. All bs.
yeah man, let kids be kids. they get runny noses for a reason.
there seems to be a misunderstanding; all of us will shuffle this mortal coil.
there's just nothing to disambiguate and children would be better off knowing this.
how else are they going to evaluate their own risk?
Another cause of the increase in childhood diseases is the obsession with cleanliness and handwashing with antibiotic soaps. I am not advocating for filth, but when we kids played in the dirt during the 1950s we returned the next day for more of the same, still healthy and stronger. Our moms did not try to trap us in antiseptic bubble suits, which seems to be commonplace today.
In addition to yes playing outside all day and in the woods behind the house as a child, I am a lifelong nail biter (tried to quit but impossible) so why am I rarely if ever sick? I do wash my hands but you know those fingers are always in my mouth. PS. I hate those sanitizers and I never use those hand dryers in public restrooms.
Could not agree more. There are times when it doesn't make sense to wash your hands....especially in some public restrooms!
GOOD POINT. "Free screenings," too, are the same. Utter B.S.
Hum, something new? I'm BLOCKED from liking your comment...
With logic like that, you have come up with the perfect handle.
Good one!
Way back when “guardasil” first arrived, doc tried to get me to give ok to give to my daughter. I read the brochure & said no. Later in the week, a nurse from our state dept of health called me. “Why not?” she asked. I stated it was only tried on 12 girls! She admitted she wasn’t giving it to her girls either. About a decade later, when my daughter was going to doc by herself, they tried again. She asked, if it’s only for ages 14-24, what happens if someone older takes it? The doc was stunned and let it drop. Our kids learn, even when we don’t realize it. Also, from their current commercial, I see they give it to both boys & girls, regardless of age.🤦♀️
https://youtu.be/FKBahh3Ut64?si=TGAkwSLvPhNYV-Ow
This is a story from the Vaxxed movie about Gardisil. Colton took his life at 18 because he didn’t want to be a burden to his family.
This makes me so mad I’m in tears. I’m sick. My son was talked into HPV vax when he went into the Dr unaccompanied by me. At 13-14. Thanks to Oregon law that said I was no longer needed and my kids could make their own medical decisions. 🤮 I would have NEVER let him do it. I was livid. Still am. I’m sick for Colton and his family.
So, at 13-14, the kid can’t purchase alcohol, can’t drive, can’t serve in the military, can’t work a job, and the parents are held accountable if the kid doesn’t attend school. BUT, the kid CAN make life altering medical decisions based on doctor recommendations supported by undisclosed, inaccurate and incomplete information. 😳🤔
The kid probably thinks they are being treated like an adult being able to make their own medical decisions, but they are being treated like a baby by someone in authority saying, “Here take this it’s good for you.”
Perhaps kids should be taught that adults are seldom “given all the information,” but must seek out full details, ask questions, to be able to make informed decisions. If someone is “letting” the kid be an adult while handing the kid an already made decision, then the kid isn’t acting as an adult.
🎯
😞😞😞
I was horrified to learn recently, that my now 32 year old daughter was enticed into receiving the Gardasil shot when in school, with me not knowing anything about it!
Some friends of mine told me their kids on high school teams were forced into it! They had a terrible reaction to the first shot & refused the remaining two. Sad.
horrible~!
I googled "what is gardasil" and THIS was the third info line returned:
https://www.reddit.com/r/FamilyMedicine/comments/16titq5/whats_with_the_opposition_to_gardasil_and_how_do/
A few select quotes from the medical community gleaned from that Reddit thread follow ..."I lean into this is the first vaccine that can porevent cancer" ... "vaccine paranoia" ... "I think [parents] see it as sexualizing children" ...
It is interesting but not surprising to learn that anyone who objects to The Allopathic Life (t.m.reg.) is sneered at and described as a fool.
Reddit is so rife with leftism.... they love them some vaxines over there.
And Ukraine is winning!
It was considered by many to be the most dangerous shot until the Covid genetic injection came along. In Australia, the drug companies do not have immunity. I remember hearing RFK say that a lawyer could make a great living in Australia just by taking Gaurdisil cases, because the injuries were so devastating and easy to prove. The sad thing is that less women and girls are getting Pap smears, which easily detect any abnormal cells on the cervix. And of course, the shots interfere with the immune system comment making any kind of cancer more likely.
If a girl waits until marriage to have sex and her husband waited too, neither is at risk of any sexually transmitted disease, no pap smears or gardasil needed.
People these days seem to think having sex is an uncontrollable urge. It’s not. “My body my choice” begins before sexual intimacy occurs.
I hear you, but that’s not the way the world is these days. According to my younger friends, people don’t even really date anymore. Just casual hook ups. Not saying this is right, but the human sex drive has been a problem for thousands of years. I applaud anyone who has those principles and sticks by them.
These days? Yikes. Are we that decrepit now?
There is nothing wrong with the human sex drive. Every period in history has its flaws, and these days there is a serious problem in our culture with responsibility. If you suggest to someone that it might be healthier to eat real food instead of a hotdog, cheetos, and a coke for lunch, you’re “fat shaming”. If a teacher refuses to inflate grades for “students of color” they’re racist. If you remind a teenager that having sex can lead to having a baby or getting a disease, you’re called a prude.
In all times in history, making good decisions leads to good outcomes. Sorry if that offends you.
LOL> the 50s are calling you. Reality check
I was born in 63. People haven’t changed, culture has. But the fact still remains that sex is not an uncontrollable urge. It’s a choice. But people act like “Oops, I didn’t mean to have sex, it just happened and now I have this baby/disease/feeling of emptiness.” Actions have consequences, and that wasn’t just true in the 50s.
I think it's a better bet, given the level of sex shaming and suppression of knowledge. to raise your children to be responsible and loving and to understand the consequences of sex, with and without birth control.
and to understand the financial consequences, and the life path consequences of unprotected sex. and even better, save it til you are in a committed relationship with someone you TRUST.
wishing and hoping for a day when kids dont have sex seems to me like the silliest of the options.
but maybe that's just me.
“Suppression of knowledge” is a myth. Young people aren’t having sex outside of marriage because the adults in their lives didn’t educate them, but because the adults are saying “it’s fine - do what you want”.
If those adults would actually give them knowledge, along with wise counsel about how dangerous it is to engage in sex outside of “a committed relationship” - aka marriage, with all the social and legal protections that come with it for the couple and the children that will likely be the result - then young people would get married and then have sex.
I’m not “wishing and hoping for a day when kids don’t have sex”. To me, wishing and hoping for a day when kids can have sex with no undesirable consequences is a whole lot sillier.
Well put Bryn. This notion that, "they are going to do it anyways (not just sex out of marriage but any self-destructive behavior) so let's try and remove all consequences" has been the direct cause of just about every society ill of the past seventy five years. And as we've seen with the trans stuff, there's no end to it as the more things are destigmatized, the more we get. We now have people arguing it's somehow compassionate to help kids cut their genitals off. Slippery slope on steroids.
This is the basic social conservative/social liberal divide that at it's heart is about exercising self control. Those who exercise self control are more successful in life by almost every objective measure; marriage length, physical health, mental health, financial status, legal issues, children's success, etc. This is blindingly obvious to most rational people. Bad decisions destroy people's lives and those of the ones around them.
Bottom line though is that this is a spiritual issue. People who exercise self-control usually do so out of accountability to God. People who behave recklessly, or even worse encourage others to do so, usually believe that they are accountable to no one. This is such an obvious reality that it boggles my mind that people cannot see it.
Great comment Jeff C!
You misunderstood me. I have no problem with the human sex drive. We wouldn’t exist without it. I personally do not think it is necessary to wait until marriage, but I would counsel A young person to be careful to understand the risks and responsibilities, and try to have an experience with someone that they truly love. With very good birth control. I do respect people whose religious values make them want to wait until marriage. Again, not my personal issue. Just pointing out that expecting everybody to wait is unrealistic.
So what did you mean, then, when you wrote “the human sex drive has been a problem for thousands of years”?
Counseling a young person to “try to have an experience with someone that they truly love” is the problem, because it is full of assumptions and ignores reality. You don’t have to have “religious values” to understand that that “experience” can and often does lead to a baby, and then what? What if that person you “truly love” doesn’t truly love you? Abortion? A marriage that begins with duress? Single motherhood? Adoption, which is lovely for the couple wanting a child, but full of heartache for the foolish girl following your bad advice?
And that’s just the pregnancy possibility, what about the STD that will likely follow you the rest of your life? And no one talks about the very real emptiness young people experience with casual hook-ups.
You don’t have to have “religious values” to look at this with eyes wide open and see that there just is no upside to sex outside of marriage, only risks. Responsibility is not religious. And the adults in the room need to wake up and start talking about this honestly, the whole thing, not just birth control and fantasy love.
Btw, both of my children were conceived while I was using birth control. Good thing I was happily married.
& the commercials for it are on every night
I declined the guardasil for my daughter too way back when. Then a friend of a friend died of papaloma virus throat cancer at 33. You don’t get paps for your throat so I got scared and had her get them. I still regret it. Thank God she was okay and is now 21 weeks pregnant with our first grandbaby. And this child will have no shots ever if I have to homeschool her myself, I will. Luckily we still have exemptions in my state.
My sister had it in her tongue. It has a high survival rate but it sounds like the 33 yo waited until it was too late and it must have metastasized into probably the lymph nodes. Not good.
Yeah, my boys doctor asked me, why, as a woman, I wouldn't want my boys vaxxed to prevent girls from getting cervical cancer. I replied, "They are 12 and not having sex and when they do, they can wrap it up." When I pointed out the issues in Australia, he told me it was all bunk and did a google search to show me nothing showed up.
I love that. Google 'white couples' to see how corrupt that 'search' engine is.
My cousin sells it and refuses to let her daughters take it!
ALSO HORRIBLE>
Interesting that a nurse from the Health Dept called. I never answer these types of intrusive questions regardless of who is asking them. I'll usually reply with "how is that your business?" or something along those lines. My pastor once pointed out how Jesus in the Gospels often answered bad-faith questions with a question. That made a big impression on me.
Every interaction like this has three potential outcomes, I'll come out ahead, stay the same, or come out behind. There is zero chance I'd come out ahead in this instance. I'll likely stay the same, but there is a chance I come out behind if I say something incriminating that this person in authority doesn't like. Why in the world would one choose to participate in a voluntary interaction with those potential consequences?
I was naive and since it was another woman figured she would level with me. And she did! This was around 2010, maybe. But now…would probably take your advice and not get into it!
I hear you, been there myself. Gray hair does have some advantages after all. I have to constantly remind myself of the things I did when I was younger and shake my head. Apologies if it came off as critical, that wasn't my intention.
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Japan pulled it from the market due to all the injuries. But not the good ol’USA. We have commercials showing “cab dad” whose job is to keep his family safe.
Yes, because “the new boys” are REALLY girls- see how their bs fear porn works?!
The argument I heard was because it’s sexually transmitted getting boys the shots would make it less likely they’d transmit 😕 I think it’s a bogus argument but clearly some bought into it.
My friend's teen daughter was separated from her mom for the physical exam at the ob gyn. My friend specifically told the dr and nurse no hpv vax. This child was given the shot anyway and has self reported she has never felt the same way since.
Your friend should sue/report if possible. So sad😢 We parents & grands have to go beyond “stranger danger” to tell kids that even people who seem ok do not always have their best interest at heart. Especially if money is involved! 🥺
My son started a Cal State University last September, they have a meningitis vax requirement. We simply filled out the religious exemption form that a long-standing Board of Regents order requires schools to accept. It was not intrusive but simply requires students to affirm that they have a religious or philosophical objection to vaccines. It was approved no questions asked.
The school didn't make the form easy to find and did the old trick saying all students were "required" to get vaxxed without elaborating on exemptions. But they are there if you hunt for them.
Not being judgmental but curious why you take your kids to pediatrician for a "wellness check" when there's nothing wrong with them. Between vaxxing them up, trying to separate you from your child to talk about sexual deviancy, and asking you intrusive questions like "do you have a gun in the house" there is zero reason to do so. Remember a simpler time when we only went to the doctor when we were actually sick?
Our private school says the wellness visit is required by the state. A certain form must be completed at the visit. I researched this “law” and from what I can tell it is an effort to check kids for abuse. They have good intentions perhaps, but it is extremely invasive, the doctor inspects every square inch of my child looking for signs of abuse, completely unacceptable if you ask me and I’m about to forge the form next year.
I don't know about your state but most laws like this have an exemption provision to fend off legal challenges (though it's usually hidden or not disclosed). That way the requirement becomes technically voluntary. You have to find the actual law passed by the legislature and read the language in detail. Press releases and summaries put out by Public Health departments *never* state this and are intended to mislead you.
California has a requirement that all kids starting elementary school must have a dental exam (it was pushed by the Dentist's lobby). Although we had taken our kids to the dentist, we submitted the exemption because screw these people. Accepted with no questions asked.
And the school nurses will never mention exemptions. I'm wondering how to get the word out to parents of young children since the medical providers are hiding the very existence of exemptions from families.
would be great if in the KNOW parents would spread this awareness!
You tell two friends, and they tell two friends, and they tell two friends. Worked well in those glorious pre-internet days.
This is where attorneys could really help, by reading the language and explaining it in layman’s terms so citizens would be armed with arguments and be able to opt out. They could post in a place that would be easy to find and accessible.
Yup, some orgs like the National Vaccine Information Center have done this for vax laws, but I've never seen it for something like this.
One thing we have to our advantage is knowing the exemption provision is almost always there. Laws are written by lawyers, and lawyers are cautious, detail-oriented people (unlike Public Health press hacks). Knowing it's there makes it pop out when you find it in the law text.
I’m in Texas. I already found the exemption form for her college and am ready to request a religious exemption.
There is something wrong. She has chronic conditions. These are most likely from childhood vaccinations. Functional doc suggested I get any blood work done through doctors so insurance will pay.
So sorry Kim, she is in our prayers. We are in the same boat with our older son and thankfully a GFCF diet and protein supplements have made a huge difference for him. Stand your ground mom, you are doing the right thing on the vax (but you know that). I'm sure you can get an exemption for college. Even here in California (which doesn't have a childhood vax religious exemption) they have them for college. The National Vaccine Information Center is a great resource if you need help. God bless.
Thank you, Jeff. I have extreme guilt about ever having vaccinated her. But I did not know then what I know now. She is on a gluten free, low fodmap diet. And supplements. It’s helping but always a struggle.
I know it's difficult for moms. Years after my son's issues started my wife told me the same thing, the guilt. Men and women are so different, it had never even entered my mind. I was angry that we had been manipulated into doing it but never felt guilty. Once my wife told me I was shocked, I had no idea what she was going through.
You were deliberately manipulated by a very sophisticated campaign that toyed with your emotions. They told you that you would be a bad mom if you didn't give your child the shots. (This is why I think it hits moms so much harder, they don't say this to dads.) They used your God-given maternal instinct against you in a despicable fashion. It was a cynical and evil, and done just so they could make money.
I know it's easy to say but you have nothing to be guilty about. You were doing what you thought was in your child's best interests and were betrayed by people that you trusted. Betrayed by people who's very job it is to help you protect your child. That's not your fault. About the only thing that comes close is a child being abused by a religious figure that claims to follow Christ. It's that bad.
Lay that guilt at the feet of Jesus. He knows what kind of mom you are and how much you love your kids, He will break those chains of guilt. And know that everyone here is pulling for you and that you'll use that righteous anger to never let anyone ever again hurt your child. I know it sounds trite, but God does use the trials to transform us even though we can't possibly understand how in the moment. God bless and prayers up.
Thank you ❤️ God has been working on me on laying things down. So this is a timely word.
So perceptive and so very well-stated, Jeff C.
Did we even have pediatricians back then (i'm 71).? I only recall seeing the same Dr my parents' did.
yes also 71.- my dad was a pediatrician who did house calls and traded with the local farmers for bags of Potatoes, tomatoes etc.
he talked a lot about preventive medicine which I think, knowing him, was about avoiding sugar and candy and eating more whole foods, not prepared ones and no chemicals added.. and less tv, more exercise, drinking water, instead of soda, etc.
Doc Gamm tended to my dad when he got chewed up by a chain saw, delivered all 6 of us kids and stitched up our family as needed. Small village in MN. Nobody had a choice, really. Thank God, he was a good Doc.
Yes! I never went because I would never complain and would try to hide any illness from my mom so I wouldn't have to go!
My Medicare doctor’s office called for my annual wellness check up. I told them I was fine and thanks for calling and hung up!!
Or, "Yes I'm well. Thanks for checking up." ->hang up. Keeping that one in my hip pocket.😉
That's my question. Like ... someone takes their kid with nothing wrong with them to a doctor so that the doctor can say that there is nothing wrong with them.
Does any of that make any sense. Is that or is that not a usurpation of all parental authority? And the adult goes along with it like some knee jerk cast in cement consent.
I cop to fear on going along with the program. The court system was part of that. That, and at the time, late 20c in the immediate wake of the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, I didn't know any better. If I knew then what I know now, the court system would still loom. I take your point, truly, but from the outside not every parent's choice can account for the subject circumstance. Just presenting another point of view. No intention to instigate anything heated.
In my case, there IS something wrong with my daughter. The functional doctor recommended I take her for blood work purposes. She is chronically ill and needs checks. Sometimes things are not cut and dry when your kid is ill. Otherwise, she would not be going to the doctor.
My granddaughter could not see well. The pediatrician helped us find that out when she was only 2.
No one is saying never take your child to a doctor. If there are symptoms of a problem then absolutely one should get their child checked out.
What we are saying is that "well baby checks" are an excuse to get your child into the office to shoot them up with vaccines. That's the point. And most pediatricians are the worst pharma pushers of them all as they get paid large bonuses for hitting vaccination targets. The child is a revenue stream for them, they aren't unpaid missionaries helping poor starving kids.
It's fascinating that people think a single case of a pediatrician doing good somehow invalidates the the obvious corruption of the well baby visit premise. Hopefully this doesn't come across as overly harsh but this is shallow thinking. It's the same logic used to validate the entire vaccine program, if it saves just one life then the whole thing is worth it. No that's not true. We have to assess not just the possible consequence (your child might die!!) but also the likelihood. That's how one assesses risk and determining the prudent action, not just based on fear-mongering.
Pushing on this a bit further, did the pediatrician fix the child's vision problems by catching it early? Does the child have 20/20 vision now? Of course not. At best the pediatrician got the child wearing glasses earlier than she might have otherwise. That's all well and good but hardly a medical miracle. The parents, you, or a teacher would have noticed it soon enough without the well baby visit.
It's stories like yours that have been used to guilt well-meaning parents into regular office visits otherwise they get tarred as "bad parents". I don't mean this toward you as I know that's not your intention. But this is exactly what the medical industry does and it is their intention.
I go to my PCP so infrequently, the last time in 2019, his first comment was “Long time no see!”
I needed to find out if I needed surgery on my shoulder. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been in at all.
I'm surprised your doc mentioned exemptions - usually the medical folks won't bring that up! Was this a pediatrician or family medicine doc?
I think the answer is in her comment, "I pretty much lost it..." Good for her. People just passively accept a lot of this stuff but a good dose of well-timed righteous anger can work wonders.
PCP. I was surprised too. I believe my response is what did it. Then I was really angry about the approach.
Any touch point with medical providers (these days) is just a chance to be shaken down to take pills, jabs, and procedures. The medical industry is a total mess now.
An opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3j88NHXUS0
*edit: "Like" button 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 not working
I can relate. Our doctor threw a fit when my son said no, so he called me into the examining room. I confirmed he was not to be given the vaccine. He said I was putting the “boy” at harm. I said he already has severe allergies and his immune system was not strong enough. He left the room and a nurse came in with a tray loaded with syringes! I asked her what are those for, we said no. She went and got Dr. Benadryl (the name I gave him when my son was younger). He came back into the room screaming at me. The a-hole had the nerve to tell me the government would take care of him. I looked him dead in the eye and said no means no. When he stormed out the nurse said to me, “Good for you. I remember you. Where have you been?” We hadn’t gone to him for 12 years. The only reason we were there, was to get a copy of his records for college. We were able to file a philosophical exemption because they were still accepted in 2009.
I was just thinking this needs to happen to the flu vaccine too. The flu vaccine does nothing but spread the flu.
The department of defense did a study on its personnel in 2019 to see how effective flu vaccines were. It turns out that the flu vaccine raised your risk of all other respiratory viruses by 36%, including the coronaviruses that were circulating at the time.
Of course. The flu shot rarely matches the form in circulation, so your immune system is all primed for something that doesn’t exist while the stuff that does exist shows up and knocks you flat.
I foolishly let my daughter have the flu shot 1.5 years ago and she has been more sick than the whole rest of her life. It really makes me upset. The upside is she knows she's been sick more times that she'd like and won't ever take another. Very hard lesson to learn.
HOLY CRAP
Do you have a link to this study??? At some point there was a study done in South Korea, I believe, which did a flu vaccine v inert placebo study on flu vaccine effectiveness. I had the link to it on an old computer, which I no longer have and I can’t find that study any longer. That old study showed equal rates of the flu in both groups but far higher rates of other respiratory illnesses in the flu vaccine arm. I’d love to read the study you are referencing!!!
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/
For me, the takeaway line in that paper is, "Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses." That applies equally to the mRNA spike protein and one's natural immune system.
Agreed. I’ve never had the flu shot, it’s been over 20 years since I’ve had the flu. Mom, in the few years before her death, had bad reactions but her doc had her keep getting it until I stepped in.
I really think that Aaron Siri and Del Bigtree, ICAN, are doing just that, inch by inch.
Yes! They are great heroes. The Informed Consent Action Network is one of the best places to donate if you want to stop this vaccine madness.
PS please watch TheHighwire online if you are not already doing so. They do in-depth investigative journalism, not only on science and medicine, but on climate and all of the globalist tactics, gender issues, and nefarious practices. If you watch the show, which is Live on Thursdays at 2 PM Eastern, and replayed anytime after that., you will be a few years ahead of the curve on events that are important to health and humanity. And it is entertaining and extremely inspirational!
I’ve watched Del since he began in 2017. Watch Peggy Halls latest Substack video. She brings up some troubling info on a new ICAN and Aaron Siri lawsuit. You need to read it for yourself. Peggy makes some good points, that if true, will make me stop donating to them. I’ll see if I can find the link.
I know. That was a shock.
https://open.substack.com/pub/peggyhall/p/why-is-del-bigtree-promotingvaccine?r=ys7bn&utm_medium=ios
I saw this as well and it was concerning. I wrote to ICAN for their side of this, as I can’t make a decision on heresay, and received the following response: (I have not yet checked into it)
“Thanks for reaching out, we appreciate you letting us know. I’m sorry for the confusion here. ICAN Legislate began promoting this bill in August 2023, and its primary purpose is to create a new exemption based on minimal safety standards:
https://icanlegislate.org/vaccine-confidence-bill/
Aaron Siri discussed the purpose and implications of the bill in episode 359 starting around the 47-minute mark:
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/safeguarding-vaccine-exemptions-aaron-siri-testifies-pt-2/
I hope this is helpful. Thank you again for contacting us, and please do not hesitate to reach out if you need anything else.”
Peggy has a follow-up video but it was not ready to watch when I saw the clip.
I loved Del and Aaron until this 🧐
https://youtu.be/InkyUCE12QI?si=sugeLgJWpmeTMqwD
https://youtu.be/IAkJ84e-aJI?si=QLMwy0ISI_2UW6VB
Peggy raises very legitimate concerns, expressed the concerns direct to Del and Aaron but no response. 🤔
See link to The Highwire episode (with relevant time stamp) posted by @Fed up in this expanded thread. The text of the proposed law is very crafty - a sort of middle finger at all the craftiness in bills-passed-into-laws used against the People at every f'n turn by industry after industry. I would say rest assured Del and Aaron Siri & co know precisely what they're doing, but that is for you to decide on your own.
Or are they?? Please listen to Peggy Halls substack-
https://open.substack.com/pub/peggyhall/p/why-is-del-bigtree-promotingvaccine?r=ys7bn&utm_medium=ios
Interesting!
"But what really threw me for a loop was when a few of Bigtree’s associates reached out to me privately defending Bigtree saying that I, myself, was in error and that surely, Bigtree’s bill was nothing like I was making it out to be, because Bigtree is “one of us.”
Well, the thing is: I didn’t criticize Bigtree, I criticized his bill, and I stand by my analysis of it."
The childhood vaccine schedule was bought and paid for by Big Pharma…with no basis that it protects or prevents anything the ‘shots’ are supposedly for. And how they guarantee this, is that they have bought many state legislatures, to pass legislation that requires ALL children be ‘vaccinated’ with this horrific and injurious ‘schedule’ to be able to attend school in these states. (And many states like California allow for absolutely NO exemptions.)
It’s a giant CASH COW for them and the pediatricians and health care provider groups that push them. And in turn these children become “lifetime patients” of the Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System from the ‘vaccine injuries’.
Zero autism in the Amish - I wonder why?
yup but also because they don't have teevees
We all know and so does big pharma !!!
I agree, the court ruling set some really good precedents to build on. Aaron Siri has been doing exactly what you are requesting backed by Del Bigtree. I'm sure they'll be all over this.
There's lots to choose from but this is my favorite quote from the court, "Litigants who have already demonstrated their willingness to tactically manipulate the federal courts in this way should not be given any benefit of the doubt." Yes!!
The court is saying that people who routinely lie and/or act in bad faith are probably doing it this time too until proven otherwise (i.e. not given the benefit of the doubt). Hardly precedent setting but finally some common sense, by their fruits you shall know them.
Just today, for the first time seeing hit pieces on both BigTree & Mercola.
means they are over the target! Mercola has been banned for ages.
Well BigTree is pushing the FDA, and Mercola is pushing psychics and high-carb diets.
Did something happen to them to get them off course?
https://peggyhall.substack.com/p/why-is-del-bigtree-promotingvaccine?r=ys7bn&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true
But is it true? Been following Mercola for years & still get daily newsletters from him, never heard him pushing psychics. I’ve never heard of Peggy Hall until yesterday. 🤷♀️
Many people are. Here are a few Dr. Peter McCullough, Steve Kirsch, Dr Pierre Kory, RFK, children’s health defense, a great organization led by warrior moms called PERK. There are many many others. The great lawyer Aaron Siri and the organization ICAN (informed Consent Action Network) I have been battling the CDC and FDA for years, and have had many victories and are building a foundation of precedents that can be built upon. ICAN is a great resource if you are interested in helping. They regained the religious exemption for school children in Mississippi, and are trying to free the five remaining states in the country that will not allow religious exemptions. ICAN is a fantastic nonprofit organization to donate to.
They bastardized the term vaccine sufficiently to make all vaccines a therapeutic which makes them all optional? And let’s stop pretending the old vaccines were preventing disease as I am now told I need an MMR booster in my 40’s, a flu shot every year, chicken pox booster for my nephews in their 20’s, pneumococcal booster… Booster is the key word here - vaccine therapeutic. Therefore, all can be deemed optional.
I still hate it when women use the word 'balls' instead of the word 'courage'........even when their message is correct like this one is.
As a farmer, I can tell you balls are good for more than courage. They cause adventuresome behavior, stubbornness, a certain type of Don’t Screw with Me behavior, and other desirable traits.
It doesn’t take courage for a bull to chase me out of the pasture, because he’s easily big enough, as are the steers, but only one of them causes me to watch closely to see if he’s looking at me.
More of our men need to exhibit a strong enough Don’t Screw with Me and My Herd attitude to scare the bureaucrats and politicians.
As a friend with two daughters says , the womens' movement spent decades emasculating and criticizing masculine behavior, but now they regularly complain there are no real men left? Duh?
Unfortunately, we have generations of men who have been feminized by a woke agenda, and rarely exhibit the traits of a real man. I miss them.
Personally, I wonder how much vaccines have been a cause of emasculating men.
Well, a friend of mine coined the term “political castration” (PC) to describe the behavior of so many politicians and other “thought leaders” in our society today. Geldings and steers and capons behave differently than when they were “intact”…so…
'Spineless cowards' gives a much stronger message and is as insulting as it gets. But, we live in an age of 'talking pigs' and it is getting worse. I have been guilty as well but I am trying to control my choice of word usage when angry which is quite often with these Godless, cowardly, communist turd munchers, driving the bus. :o)
You are 💯 on this, Darby. Good on ya.
Love it. I have no problem suing words that make snowflakes melt.
Yes. My daughter-in-law, who faithfully waited for God to bring the right man into her life, is almost at the end of her first pregnancy at the age of 38. She and my son were able to make this baby without the fertility treatments that are so common today. And they are so happy, except for the anxiety about what the medical world may do their child.
When my DIL was four years old, she got a baby brother. She had all the play equipment to mimic her mother’s actions in caring for the baby; bathing and changing and feeding her baby doll. But at around 2 years of age, the brother, who had been developing normally up to that time, suddenly regressed and became a different child. Today, we would say he is autistic. But 30 years ago, his parents and even the family doctor didn’t know what to make of it.
My DIL is dealing with the fear that this will happen to her child. She is a very earnest well educated, professional person and has researched exhaustively, has a functional physician and has done everything health wise that she knows to do. My heart aches for her.
She says her brother went through several courses of antibiotics in his early life because of ear infections. She believes this affected his immune system and he was overwhelmed by the childhood vaccines given to him. (Which 30 years ago was far fewer than today!).
Her present concern is she tested positive for group B strep (GBS- this is mandatory testing for pregnant women now) and either she has to receive antibiotics during labor to ‘supposedly’ prevent the baby from getting GBS or she has to stay an extra day at the hospital so they can ‘monitor’ the baby. The antibiotics would enter the baby’s bloodstream.
She and my son are resolved, after extensive research, to not vaccinate the child. They’ve been able to find a supportive pediatrician. (Miraculous in itself, as almost all of them will refuse you if you don’t vaccinate.)
If you pray, please pray for this decision they have to make about the antibiotics.
We really don’t want them to be ‘monitoring’ the baby’s health for an extra day. We have zero trust that ‘health’ is their priority.
I don’t even know where this GBS business came from. I had four midwife deliveries going back 50 years ago and there was no such thing. My children were having their babies some 15-30 years ago and they don’t remember such a thing.
Sorry, this is long and may not seem relevant to many of you. But if you’re not concerned about the fact that Autism rates have increased from 1 in 10,000 30 years ago to 1 in 5 today, you better be! I worked extensively with Autistic children in the public school system, and I do not believe civilization can survive with 20% of the population thus afflicted.
Something has to be done to stop this massive vaccine madness.
Kind of worried that this decision might create a precedent where if they can "prove" that a vaccine will protect others and not just the recipient then it will be able to be mandated... I'd like to have Jeff's thoughts on that. Anybody else thinking the same thing?
That does seem to be a danger.
When I think how angry and righteous I used to be about parents who refused to vaccinate their kids -this was before Covid....it's very embarrassing to me. Once I realized with Covid what they were doing, it took less than a split-second for me to realize it has likely been that way all along. Oh, the apologies I need to send out....
I am horrified at the number of vaccines given to today's babies. It absolutely must end.
We can also start standing up for our pets and saying NO to all these recommended vaccines. Many of the human policy overeaches started w pet policies. Try traveling w an unvaccinated dog. Nearly all kennels, day cares, and many hotels, etc. require proof of vaccination. (Early test runs for vaccine passports!) Veterinary medicine is ALSO Rockefeller Medicine.
exactly! no baby needs a hepb shot just to leave the hospital.