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If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, āVengeance is Mine, I will repay,ā says the Lord. āBut if your enemy is hungry, feed him, and if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.ā Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Really understanding heaping burning coals on the head and knowing God will have HIS vengeance really changed the way I deal with people who are not acting very nicely. Sometimes I have to talk myself into it, but I have never been sad for not reacting meanly back or vindictively.
My husband is very good at it (especially with me when I get mad). It stops me dead in my meangirl tracks. I used to think he was trying to Svengali-like manipulate me out of being mad, but no, just his natural reaction. I do it now with friends. It teaches you kindness in the face of mean is strength and it also makes forgiving long term hurt a lot easier. God will sort out what needs sorting and it will be just. A good thing to praise Him for today!
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Iāve had a lot of opportunities to practice, but a huge turning point or learning opportunity was years ago in front of the abortion clinic with hateful people screaming and cussing at me. To respond in love was only possible by allowing Christ to speak through me. Good lesson.
And you never know who saw that interaction and got curious about Christ. Compassion and a kind word (IMO) are a lot more persuasive than other tools some may use to tell people about Christ. And there, in your situation, there was no doubt (in the eye of the onlooker) about the source of your gentleness.
Amen. My beloved sometimes reminds me that no one ever changed his/her opinions, political or otherwise, by being argued or harangued out of them, but only by love. Itās not always easy to practice, but it sure is compelling when we do šš»
There were many of those moments as we stood on the grass by the road on what felt like holy ground while the parking lot and building exuded evil. You could almost see the demons dancing on the roof.
Don't think I don't know how blessed I am for having him! Yesterday was our 30th anniversary. Maybe you will be the one like my husband. Being the kind one in the face of the snit thrower. He wasn't always like that. He said he was tired of fighting with me and asked God to direct his path. It was a wake up call for me. I asked God to close my big mouth and to start treating my husband like who he was to me - most important after God. It isn't perfection. But it will be one day.
That is so so beautiful Raptor. Pray for us. I come from a family of speaking horribly to one another. I see it but its so hard to break. We both have trauma in our past and lots of yelling in families. :(
Try picking one thing for one day. "I won't insist on the last word. Instead I will sit and listen and not say a word and keep my face neutral" or "I will say I am sorry even if I am mad and offer a hug to reset things and I won't get pissed if he rebuffs my hug. I will try later." Two very hard things that with prayer and getting bolstered by reading your Bible and waking every day with the goal things will get easier. But talk is easy. Go in with a plan and have contingencies for when things go sideways. You are not doomed to whatever course that you are on. God provides an exit ramp.
I sympathize! I do really well usually not to be insulting or use hurtful words but the yelling is something I have a very hard time stopping š Raptor has some great ideas.
Well said. Blessed as well. Your husband is blessed that you are self aware about this. Yes, SNIT thrower is an apt description of MY behavior at times. Trying to be better. Sigh.
I was thinking those of us who commented here or liked the interaction of Raptor and Janice for her action at the clinic, might enjoy a ladies bible study uplifting eachother in being women and wives of God.
I know we all have pur own churches but truth is being primary caregiver of my kid I donāt get out for weekly bible studies. Iād love to connect with others who want to grow in this area. Seems like we have several ladies who would like to and we have some ladies who would do well to lead us.
If so, Iām not sure of other platforms but there is the fb group I started for C&C and we could do a subgroup chat for conversation.
Iām open to ideas! I need other women around me who openly struggle with this and more Titus 2 women to help lead! ā¤ļø
I would be up for it. There are plenty of people on CnC (thank you and sorry Jeff) who love to talk all things Bible. Maybe we could start a stack. I will give it some thought while I am peddling. Hope others might want to.
šØ The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. [2 peter 3:9]
yes, CDC officials (and all the rest of you in the Biden-brained gvt agencies) come to the banquet and eat and drink the locally produced food and water in E. Palestine please
It is interesting that under the old American Republic that 'law enforcement' officials were call Peace Officers. That is, they were to 'uphold and affirm' God's design for peace by upholding God's Law. The big clue to all of this was that early Americans took great pains to display the Two Tablets in American courthouses. Furthermore, early Americans knew their Bible and they knew that the civil magistrate was to be 'a terror to evildoers' just as it says in the Book of Romans. And so ... there was instrumentality in the civil state for a lawful 'vengeance is Mine says the Lord'. And so, justice was never to be on autopilot or on vacation in the civil administration of government. Hence vengeance was in law redress which can in some cases involve retribution exacted by sentence of punishment.
Thus, there are responsibilities demanded of Man in the maintaining of God's Peace under God's Law. It is therefore cause for lamentation that in a world now gone largely capricious and arbitrary, the product of an end justifies the means legal narcissism, the word 'responsible' is barely or not at all considered. Witness the Trump persecution fiasco current ongoing in New York.
And by the way, it may be added that the Trump Persecution writ large is an ongoing advertisement that the United States is Whack-O-Doodle Crazy, degenerate and not to be trusted. Not exactly top billing encouraging of further investment in the United States. Instead, arbitrary and capricious acts such as these are more fuel to the now raging fire of de-dollarization and Walk-Away. And I submit, the rest of the world is no longer walking away from the United States and its Woke Empire. It's now a full gallop run in the opposite direction. (Gold up today and over 2000. USD down. This is proof)
Same here ... and I can't say if its 2nd or 3rd or more. And I don't think it much matters. But if there is any doubt about it and the unthinking adolescent stupidity of it all, it's the non-stop train of failures across the board at all levels of thought and endeavor. The last straw as to doubts is this Trump trumped up circus. And I though Lawyer Childers said it well today.
I study financial stuff all the time. A lot of it has to do with restructuring. Clearly, the United States and its Marxist Woke Empire is irretrievably broke beyond repair. This means there has to be financial/monetary restructure. And the restructure cannot be another reiteration of what is killing us all. How it pans out I cannot say. But what is being done with de-dollarization abroad in the East (BRICS+) will to some large degree compel direction (redirection) in the West. And it won't be overnight. And there are apt to be fits and temper tantrums along the way. It will be interesting.
I'm betting that it cannot be the Great Reset, because that too would fail. They may try, but it just would only prolong the suffering. In the meantime, try not slip on any banana peels!
I love all this and agree but I think we are allowed to protect ourselves and go after them legally for crimes they have committed. We are not expected to be doormats. Jesus did take a whip made of cords and drive out the money changes and people selling doves in the Temple. We can just prosecute them with kindness saying āwe are sorry you did xyz and you will now have to face the natural consequences. We will witness and visit you in jailā.
As Christians, we are failing. The culture war began in the 1960's and many Boomer parents naively chose to let their children choose their path rather than guide them along and give them wisdom and direction and read the Bible with them. Probably following Dr. Spock's advice and Donahue on TV. I was almost lost because of my parents' lack of Christian guidance, but the Holy Spirit didn't give up on me.
It is a daily struggle to control my reaction to all that's going on. I'm having a very hard time being around people. I know this is my problem and it's in my own best interest to react with patience and kindness. It's hard to show love when I don't feel it. Every day I pray to God to help me be a better person. Sometimes it works. Other times not so much.
I find myself grumbling to myself out in public about the stupidity...when I see a mask especially. Then the Lord reminds me to walk in freedom and joy in Him. He shouldn't have to remind me so often!
If it helps, in the World Split Asunder, we all are daily having a rough time against the deliberately engineered daily assault and battery. It's okay folks to get angry at the people beating us up. In fact, the whole world is pissed as hell and that is why they are disengaging from the West and de-dollarizing at breakneck speed forthwith.
Indeed. We can see all of this developing in the international scene right now as nation after nation sees "the writing on the wall" and abandons USG hegemony. Even Saudi Arabia is disengaging with the USG and aligning itself with the developing eastern geopolitical block. And what is the USG and NATO doing? Like the Borg assimilating everyone it comes in contact with, NATO has just DOUBLED its border with Russia. What will Russia do when the USG puts missiles in Finland?
Hi Tracy! And thanks again and so nice to hear from you.
No, I do not believe it's a case of 'misery loves company', although I suppose company of the right kind can be very comforting. Nope! This can of worms of long suffering is thrust upon us from without by Evil people persecuting us and waging war upon us, the same as they ruin lives abroad with their incessant wars of expansion (and so far all colossal failures and trillions down the toilet).
Increasingly, I find it all an exercise in Faith of the kind that retains joy in ones life. Even still, everyone once and awhile we (me and De Wife) have to regroup because at times, it is indeed overwhelming that such exponential large sheer Evil is being perpetrated across the face of the globe.
It sure does help, though, to keep company with like-minded people. And acts of resistance to evil validate the life of the soul as we imperfectly separate ourselves from evil.
Thank you for your comment. It does help knowing how many people are having the same issues and understand. I don't have very many people around me who are on the same page but the ones I do I cherish and thank God for. Also, everyone here keeps me going. š
Yes! And to boil it down, it is highly problematic be a sane fish swimming in an insane world. Cling to the wisdom of Scripture as guide, continue to struggle in growth of character in the ways of the Lord ... and cast out destructive self-doubt attachments. And you'll do just fine.
And remember always, the demonic forces always want to tear us down, incinerated our home and families. We must never consent to this.
Ever get the idea that they're forcing the de-dollarization so they can turn to the public with their new currency and say "Hey, they turned away from us. It's not our (Wash D.C.) fault!" and the MSM will support that lie and 40% of Americans will believe it. And the rest of the world will be cast as homophobes and racists.
I think it is much more complicated. First, the 'we' among us tend to ascribe all knowing superpowers to our enemies. And we tend to think that they are smart. Perhaps even smarter then we are. Well, if this was all true ... then they would not be in so much deep trouble now, victims of their own Woke Stupidity. For example, if I knew decades ago the de-industrializing the US, shipping industry and jobs abroad, was a really not a good idea, why didn't the Dear Leaders of the collective Western World Woke Empire know this? And if I knew that Financial Commercialization at the expense of an emphasis on a real production of goods and commodities was a really bad idea, why didn't our august Dear Leaders know this? I could add much to this list, but perhaps ... the point is made. The truth is that these Woke Leaders have thrown all tradition out the window and have replaced it with an Ideological World View detached from reality and human nature. This detachment from reality and human nature made the Prim Movers of the West quite insane, and moreover with a diabolical penchant quite akin to an arsonist holding a can of gasoline in one hand and a lit match in the other.
The below is a first rate survey of what is going on. I vouch for the view presented as being more or less a very realistic statement of where we are and where things are likely to go. I think it will add much to anyone's understanding as to questions no pertaining.
U.S. Dollar on Brink of Extinction? Chinaās De-dollarization Agenda Is Creating a Global Shift
This second video has a bit of good statement in it. One can at least get somewhat a provisional grip on how the rest of the world is looking at the contemporary Western madness. My reservation is that this video features Jeffery Sachs who is establishment and had WEF ties. Jeffrey does seem to be singing another different tune these days, but it is not entirely 'our song' if you get my meaning. Still, it worth listening to for as far as it goes.
BRICS rising as neocons destroy the west w/Jeffrey Sachs
As and aside: the basic schism in the collective West is that between the God centered Law and constitutions which the founder/framers gave to the Americans, and that of the Marxist replacement government centered in secular humanist based law. And if the Crazies hate Putin, and aside from geostrategic considerations, it because Putin reinstated God, Russian Orthodoxy and Christian morality back into Russian society. The whole thing going on is a war between the traditions of the world and a Woke Globalist totally bankrupt Marxist vision of Utopia, a world which never was nor never will be.
It does not say you cannot wish for/desire justice. Good governance should mete that out (I said good). On the other hand, preoccupation with vengeance rarely works out in your favor. In fact it can ruin your life.
I need to research this more, but I believe the intent of turning the other cheek refers to personal offenses. Societal justice is a different subject. God intends for governments to be just and for righteous people to stand up for what is right.
"If the Jews, as subjects of Rome, did not comply with a Roman soldierās requests for anything from a drink of water to handing over personal property, a swift backhand to the right cheek was common. But why would Jesus instruct His followers to offer the left cheek as well?
Paul T. Penley explains in āTurning the Other Cheekā: Jesusā Peaceful Plan to Challenge Injustice,ā āRoman soldiers tended to be right-handed. When they struck an equal with a fist, it came from the right and made contact with the left side of the face.
When they struck an inferior person, they swung with the back of their right hand making contact with the right cheek. In a Mediterranean culture that made clear distinctions between classes, Roman soldiers backhanded their subjects to make a point. Jews were second-class.ā The Roman slap was an insult to the Jewsā personal dignity."
Really good! Jesus was not weak, did not practice tolerance of anything and everything. To know him we not only need to read the Word, but to understand what his words meant in that time. I need to study more!
He turned over the tables of the money changers in the temple. Evil. Called out the wicked.
He certainly had an overabundance of patience with His people and in particular His disciples. And now His Church. God CANNOT tolerate sin.
Christ is able to show His strength when we are weak. Christ never abuses his strength and never uses his unlimited strength unjustly. We are not called to tolerate evil. Not at all.
I love these deeper insights into these stories that give us expressions such as, "Turn the other cheek." With a fuller understanding of the context, we see that Jesus was actually advising that we stand our ground, not pathetically "turn the other cheek" and let bygones be bygones, and asking or allowing ourselves to slapped again...Which is, I'd guess, how most "understand" Jesus's teaching here. No, be bold!
One of the most transformative explanations for me of the Beatitude, "The 'meek' shall inherit the earth," was the explanation of the word "meek." In the Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke, that word did not have the meaning we ascribe to it in English or via translation into the Greek.
One of its many meanings included its allusion to being ššššššššš, flexible. When I put that meaning into the Beatitude, "And the ššššššššš shall inherit the earth (the land), that resonated for me. Of course, Jesus would say that! Not the shy and retiring inheriting the land, but those who are teachable, open, flexible...Indeed.
But God does not like proud people. Thus the double sin for Pride Week, not to mention that they absconded with the rainbow which is another Biblical symbol of godly promise.
This dovetails nicely to Jesus' amplification of his Sermon on the Mount where he details what loving your enemies looks like (it is in Matthew chapter 5 verses 38-48 - Mt5:38-48 for the people who might be wondering about the bible abbreviation structure) He tells us WHY we should do it and why He allows goodness to fall on both the good and evil. It is jam packed with answers! Luke 6:27-35 talks of turning the cheek, the value of all the cheek turning to the Christian and is where we get the "Do unto others as we would have others do unto us" saying. (any curious readers?: Luke is the third book in the New Testament-- Matthew, Mark then Luke which is one of the 4 Gospel books(Gospel loosely meaning good news about Christ and what he did for us).
Trigger warning (smirk): Tangentially, there is another verse out there about (as a Christ follower) being a good slave. That will enrage people these days. Makes me laugh thinking of it.
It is a moderating consideration designed to keep us from tearing down our own houses at the first flash of gun powder. Think of it as an anti-Snow Flake measure as a sort of wrath inhibitor. In short, we need not go to war over every little trifle of offense. Wisdom is always needed in the application of Scripture. And one verse of Scripture can never subtract from or undo the continuity of Scripture from Alpha to Omega.
I think what I stated above applies here as well; we show no open retribution or revenge, rather we pray for their spirits to awaken to the truth of God in them. We are commanded, in the Lordās parader, to forgive them of their offenses as we have been forgiven of our sins by God. I donāt think it means to continually allow them to abuse us or others, but rather to use the full extent of the law as it applies to evil-doers. This is not vengeance, but standing up for what is right and true and protecting ourselves and those who need it. I could be wrong, but God didnāt give us a mind and strength to not defend ourselves against brutality.
That's a good point, Janice. I do not find the principle of self-defense anywhere in the Scriptures, but I DO see laying down our lives for someone else. In matters of society, we are to stand up for others and protect them. This often means standing up to, combating, and subduing evil on behalf of others. It is not in the spirit of vengeance, but in the spirit of what Jesus did for us: laying down our lives for others.
The right of self-defense is abundant in Scripture. For example, "Thou shalt no kill" as the negative averal implies "thou shalt not be killed" which in turn implies directly the right of self-defense from which in law we get the term 'justifiable homicide'. There are plenty more such examples in the Old Testament, and more up front direct in the taking. And the greatest statue in the world is The David in the Academy in Florence. That would be David in the act of contemplating the slaying Goliath ... all in defense of the Hebrew tribes. So, it is not just self-defense ... but also in defense of the family and the extended family ... and the larger family of the dwelling place called country. And all so that the just (righteous) can live in God's Peace under God's Holy Law Order.
The Fallen Western Church teaches a New Testament divorced from the Old Testament as a sort of schismatic heresy. This teaching is in the character of pure Scofield dispensational nonsense.
It depends upon which Bible one uses. In the KJV, the Geneva 1599 and the American Standard Version, it is 'Thou shall not kill'. In many other Bibles the word 'murder' is used. But whether it is kill or murder, the understanding by divines is always stated within the context of what is lawful. And whether one reads Luther, Calvin or R. J. Rushdoony, it is always so.
The purpose of the covenantal injunction of the Sixth Commandment is to do no harm to one's neighbor. Hence, the deeper purpose of the Commandment is equally an instruction in how to 'love they neighbor' by doing him no harm or injury, and loving him by living responsibly with one's neighbors in a state of God's Peace. Below is from the Westminster Confession of Faith, larger confession. It illustrates the point.
WLC 135: What are the duties required in the Sixth Commandment?
Answer: The duties required in the Sixth Commandment are, all careful studies, and lawful endeavors, to preserve the life of ourselves1 and others2 by resisting all thoughts and purposes3, subduing all passions4, and avoiding all occasions5, temptations6, and practices, which tend to the unjust taking away the life of any7; by just defense thereof against violence8, patient bearing of the hand of God9, quietness of mind10, cheerfulness of spirit11; a sober use of meat12, drink13, physical14, sleep15, labour16, and recreations17; by charitable thoughts18, love19, compassion20, meekness, gentleness, kindness21; peaceable22, mild and courteous speeches and behavior23; forbearance, readiness to be reconciled, patient bearing and forgiving of injuries, and requiting good for evil24; comforting and succoring the distressed, and protecting and defending the innocent.25
So, some say 'murder' is the better usage. But I say neither 'murder' or 'kill' is adequate without expository enlargement. R. J. Rushdoony is probably the most expansive look into the meaning of the Six Commandment. This would be The Institutes of Biblical Law, Vol. 1, pages 219 - 332.
I also recently discovered from the teachings of Mary Magdalene, that we are commanded to love the āspiritā of all Godās children; keeping in mind that not all humans are following Godās Way, at any given time, and thus their spirits are not pure. I take this to mean we are not commanded to love, or tolerate, their human actions, but only their spirits, for they, as do we, have the opportunity to repent and be included in Godās love and compassion. It is a choice for each of us as his creations. This helps me to better accept the evil nature manifested in humans, understanding they have not yet awakened to their true calling by God. It also assures me that God has everything under control. I donāt need to put myself in a position of judgement or revenge; that is Godās alone. I must pray for the evil-influenced spirits to awaken and be reunited with their creator. This generally quells my overwhelming, not-so-divine, human desire to take them out; however righteous it might feel at the time! š
It is worth remembering that all humans are Godās creation, but not all of them are His children. Some are children of the devil.
āBy this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.ā
Thank you, Janice, for shining light on that verse. I'd also suggest one read and contemplate Matthew 13:24-30, the parable of the wheat and the tares ... which explains why both are allowed to grow side-by-side until the harvest ... at which time the tares will be thrown in the fire.
Justice need not be instantaneous to remain justice.
It will be up to the Righteous King Judge (our risen Savior) to tell who are the "sheep" and who are the "goats" on that "great and mighty White Throne Judgment" .
Hey Dutchess, I just started reading a book a few ppl here recommended called "Live not by Lies". In just the first Ch a priest's motto in the face of totalitarianism (which is what I think you may be not turning the cheek for) was SEE. JUDGE. ACT. See meaning be awake to the realities around you. Judge meaning soberly discern those realities in light of what you know to be true - esp. in light of what you were taught as a Christian. Act meaning After you have reached your conclusions about these realities you must actively resist evil.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is what you mean. Actively resisting evil (and if you are a Christian, you would be doing it in light of what God teaches in the Bible about evil - or as a humanist - what you perceive as evil if you think evil exists).
It just made me think of you so I thought I would hop on and talk to you.
I have to prepare my mind with them before reading Jeffās letter. As Iāve said before, he is a master of making it all palatable, but gee whiz, what gross and frustrating material he has to work with.
Actually the verses say "if able from yourselves, living in peace with all mankind: not avenging yourselves, beloved, but you must now give place to the wrath of GOD, for it has been written, " Vengence is Mine, I shall repay" (Deut 32:35) says the LORD. But " if your enemy hungers, you must continually feed him, if he thirsts, you must continually give him drink: for doing this you will heap coals of fire upon his head." (Pro. 25:21,22) Ido not overcome evil by doing evil but I overcome evil by doing good." From the ONE NEW MAN BIBLE translated from the original Hebrew not paraphrased to bring it in step with our current language. Roman's 12:9,-21 gives rules for following "the Way" which was what Yeshua and His followers were known as.
yes, impulsive retribution, plotting vengeance are worldly, fleshly drives that do not serve any good; David withheld from striking Saul, Abigail interceded on behalf of both her household but also on behalf of David himself. Compromising one's spirit and striking back to get even also asks the Divine to remove himself from the case at issue and the consequences and legacy that result.
We are to fight on behalf of the innocent and oppressed never for worldly gain or acclaim or to produce justice within the court of our own mind.
It does Depend Upon Me, and All Wo-Men Do Not Get My turned Cheek. I Prefer picking up the smooth river rock like David to Smite Goliath. You read your Bible and i'll read mine.
BTW, Kid Rock reflects my non biblical sentiments as well
David relied on and proclaimed God when he met Goliath. So it wasn't really the stones, but the reliance on God. Stones being the tool of David - a small and unimportant sheep herder with no battle skills (outside of killing a Lion which he proclaimed as the grace and work of God) used by God to demonstrate His power perfectly thru a weak one - leaving no doubt whose hand was upon him.
Not sure what your Bible says about David. You rely on your own greatness and strength? Good luck with that.
My Point is "He Fought". I am Not a "Turn the Cheek" and become Lion Food thinking that God will deliver weaklings from their fate. Good Luck with That. I have an Iherent God Given Right to Self Defense. That's my point.
Without his reliance on God he would have been a mere shepherd with a smooth rock and a sling. Apart from that, I agree you have the right to self defense and that it is God given. Glad to see that you believe that. It is not given to you by man or government or society. If so, you could ex out the inalienable part.
Well, Gen, in my experience, "contradictions" are in the eye of the beholder. I've learned that scripture is a coherent tapestry that only reinforces it's actual meaning with each thread. I'm sure I'll never plumb the depths of this tapestry.
And any perceived contradictions are indicative of my human inability to understand, not a failure of God Almighty to communicate what He wished. When i come across something I don't understand, I tuck it away for another time when the Lord will show me what it means.
ā[N]ow, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them? I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?ā
Atheists can believe that because they do not grasp the Lord's timing: 2 Peter 3:8, 'With the Lord, a day is as a thousand years ..."
Or Habakkuk 2:3 (written centuries before Jesus' birth): "For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry."
Only good thing Stahl ever did was asking Madelyn Half-Bright if the lives of 500K Innocent victims was worth invading Iraq. And the incredibly stupid and heartless answer that Half-Bright proceeded to respond with.
Just think about who 60 Minutes audience actually is especially during the NFL season. A bunch of hypnotized cheap-beer swilling people who have been watching totally fixed football games all day, and probably have no ability or energy at that point to bother to change the channel, as they are in a drunken coma.
Sadly, most Democrats do not recognize truth when they hear it... by definition, a Pedophile: "a person who is sexually attracted to children". MTG should have asked Leslie why resident Biden sniffs children's hair, snuggles their necks, and somehow manages to place his hand in the most inappropriate places on them... I would NOT allow my children within a 100 yards from him!!!
One has to wonder whether Marjorie Taylor Greene did bring up Biden's sniffing/snuggling/other inappropriate behaviour, and 60 Minutes simply edited it out.
Jeff could you PLEASE start an organization that we will be happy to fund, TO GET EVERY CONSERVATIVE AG in this country to PROSECUTE BIDEN/HILLARY/CLINTONS/ALL DEM FORMER PRESIDENTS LIKE OBAMA ...
If we do not launch an all out blitzkreig now, they will keep on keeping on. It is time for all of us to stand up and tell these mafiaoso's we will NOT tolerate it, and in no uncertain terms.
You need to round up the AG's and assign them their prosecutions....
Really I am serious. IT IS DEAFENING THE SOUND OF CONSERVATIVES doing JACK.
Ya Iām with you! Iām sick of the R politicians doing nothing but lip service. Who cares if they sent a strongly worded letter? WHO CARES!!! Millions of Americans are sick to death of the inaction by absolutely everyone.
We need a list of DAās and attorney generals from each state that are willing to stand up and be courageous.
Iām sick of all the āconservativesā that are saying they are against tit for tat. Republicans need to start prosecuting corrupt democrats. Hunter should not be given a free pass. If republicans continue to do nothing (since theyāre above retaliation š) democrats learn that they will never face any consequences no matter how bad their behavior.
The same cast of assorted neocons and uniparty establishment such as Dubya, Cheney (the elder and the lesser), Mitt, Petraeus and the other top brass with a .100 victory percentage, and Rick "Tough Nerd" Snyder, who came out in full force for Biden and remain in his camp.
Once an avalanche starts, the snow doesn't roll up-hill. There will be no "pay-back".
Exactly. And I always wonder, in the age of Epstein, who has blackmail material held over their head to āinfluenceā their actions, or lack thereof.
I agree. 'Taking the high road' is not working. Trump threatened Hillary's arrest if he became President but then relented calling her and Bill 'good people'.
Do you think that she is not celebrating his arrest now?
Go after all of them. The liberals want to make our country a 3rd world, three ring circus..then let them be part of the shameful fun!
Trump is polling at over 60% and DeSantis is down to around 13%. Thereās a reason for that. Think about it. The dems have been chiming ad nauseum about āno one is above the law.ā Trump will prove it to be a true statement. Does anyone really believe that Trump and his lawyers would accept any of these infantile shenanigans from a corpulent con man - a paid corpulent con man - like Bragg. Trump knows what he is doing. Never forget that. The Art of War by Sun Tzu: appear weak when you are strong.
I just think they want to build up Trump in the polls. They donāt want an independent thinker and good man like DeSantis to win. Trump could have done a lot of things while President like prosecute Hillary, pardon most of the January 6th protestors, fire Fauci, end lockdowns, open schools, investigate other treatments besides just the vaccine. He was weak at the end it it caused a lot of needless deaths.
Trump had to get conservative federal justices into courts around the country. Going after Hillary wouldn't have had as great an impact as those judges have had and would make her a martyr (kind of like Trump is turning into a martyr now). Now we just need law agencies and prosecutors that will get the criminals in front of those judges. If only Soros' money dried up. Wouldn't that be nice?
They all want to make us a 3rd world country. People were fooled that Trump had some amazing economy going, which is utterly as far away from the truth as possible, faring worse than any modern day president:
I said nothing of the sort. I merely was pointing out for the die hard Trump supporters that he is no conservative when it come to the economy. And the covid excuse is null and void since he chose to lockdown the country as well as dole out trillions in relief payments.
Hind sight is 20-20, J-O. The situation was more complex in the moment. I donāt expect you to remember. The USA has pumped too much fluoride into the water. Covid also brought us the lowest gas prices in decades. Based on similar simple logic we should bring Covid back to get low gas prices again. Simple logic is gas prices low = good, so Covid = low gas prices = good. Covid = good. Hogwash!
Your comment has nothing to do with what I stated, nor does it in any way add anything to the discussion. The situation was not complex. Very early on, we knew it was virtually harmless to young people, and even in older healthy people didn't have an infection fatality rate outside of a severe flu season.
Trump is either a complete idiot, or he is in on it. You decide. Either outcome is no good for a leader of the country. Idiots like me with a laptop saw through the covid 1984 narrative early on, but the 5 dimensional chess player Trump could not somehow.....laughable.
And read the link I shared. His economy was horrible. All bravado, no real substance, like the reality star he once was. He acts like a jr high bully for christ sake. Loser, in the most sorry way. The sooner people wake up to this, the sooner we get out of this mess.
I went to the Lew Rockwell article, which is the one I guess you want viewed. He claims to be a Libertarian. Libertarians don't generally care for liberals or conservatives. Are you a libertarian? Lew's information claims that Carter did better than Trump, by his numbers. I need not dig any further. I lived during the Carter years; they weren't great. I also saw globalist propaganda in that article. Make money and get power at all odds. The misinformation and hysteria that came from previously believed scientific organizations like the CDC fooled most people; I'd guess >95%. I, too, washed my hands, bought disinfectant, didn't wear my shoes in the house and sterilized my mail and groceries using UV-C light. I wore a diaper on my face, across my beard, because I KNEW the masks were BS, but where were the studies? I was the idiot. Then I started to see the cracks. My family in the medical field continued to tout CDC data and screamed about the danger; about the workers/friends that died at home from Covid. They judgmentally questioned my family and I about the jab. I surfed the web looking for info. It was months before there was enough personal data for me, based on what I was seeing in day to day life, to start turning skeptical to the government scientists. It was the Tuskegee Study all over again and I'd been fooled! Throwing shade at President Trump or others may make you feel better about yourself, but I doubt it adds much joy to your life. May God bless you and your family with eyes to truly see and ears to truly hear, friend. Feel free to insult me further and criticize Trump. He's no knight in shining armor, but he's the best we've got at the moment. If God wants him in the Presidency again, he will be President again. I will pray that the best person becomes president, but God's will be done. P.S. my wife has a severe autoimmune disease that the doctor's have a very hard time containing; colds are two week ordeals. I did what I thought needed to be done to protect her and the kids.
I bash all politicians because it is our job as citizens to hold them accountable, and there is more than enough to hold T accountable for. They are supposed to work for us, we are not supposed to idolize them, which many in our country sadly do.
I have long studied media and propaganda therefore was easy for me to see through covid BS. The politicians and media were all in lockstep from the beginning, which is probably the biggest red flag there is.
Carter years were not great, but neither were the Trump years. His supporters think so because they are blindly believing him. He exploded our nation's debt.
I am not sure what I said that was a direct insult to you, but sorry you took it that way.
This is the reality. hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
DeSantis has been doing what the Democrats have been doing for the past decade, staying ahead of the oppositionās next move... too well. Like heās being coached by the Uniparty. I know I can trust Trump to MAGA. I canāt trust DeSantis just yet. Heās a lawyer (no offense Jeff) and Trump isnāt. Bidenās a lawyer. Trump isnāt. Lawyers are important but not as President of the USA right now. We need a sneaky fighter.
Yes! Montana AG Knudsen should indict & arrest the Biden admin that allowed that balloon to gather dangerous info on Montanans putting them at certain risk!
Totally agree. I would add that if the case goes forward, thereby ignoring statute of limitations, one of these AGs MUST go after Obama, Holder, and Clinton.
I think we need to end the partisanship and prosecute all of them. Trump locked us down knowing the virus was not truly life threatening, completely obliterating the economy, pushed the poison death shot (literally still brags about it), GWB like the rest should be in jail for war crimes, etc.
It was his decision to lockdown and he absolutely pulled the trigger on it. This was in spite of knowing the covid was virtually harmless to younger people, and after the infamous cruise ship that was infected that showed an infection fatality rate of a regular flu season.
Then he paid out trillions of dollars to families and businesses. I recommend you read this if you have the time. Damning article about how the Trump economy was the worst of any modern day president, of course partly because of the pandemic, but it was his decisions of how to handle it, which were horrible decisions.
Dems ānew rulesā and setting precedence. Rās better wake the hell up and realize the Dā, ran by the radical minority, have declared war on them and half or more of America. AGās, local prosecutors...isnāt there a laptop of Hunter committing a multitude of felonies?? On video FFS. Narcotics, prostitution, gun crimes, etc. Surely it wouldnāt be difficult to determine the jurisdiction these offenses occurred. I wouldnāt normally be in support of a ātit-for-tatā, but Dās drew first blood and Rās trying to be the bigger person strategy isnāt and hasnāt worked. Time to call their bluff and as my mom woulda said āFive them a taste of their own medicine.ā
I wonder if this case against Trump is a ploy to get these types of lawsuits abolished so that Bidenās very serious crimes wonāt be prosecuted. Could the Dems be playing a long game? How could the NYT not see how this can get out of hand. The NYT is truly just a propaganda machine for the DNC now and has lost all credibility.
For those atop this tyrannical regime to allow and adopt these abuses of our legal system means that they do not fear these abuses being used against them.
And to not fear these abuses being used against them is a belief that their opponents will never have the power to allow and adopt them as turnabout.
And to believe that their opponents will never have the power to allow and adopt the abuses as turnabout is to admit that they are in control of election results.
And to admit that they are in control of election results is to admit that elections are rigged. And that Donald Trump was the rightful winner of the 2020 election; it was a stolen election.
Which is an admission that Donald J Trump is the rightful President of the United States. And his opponents and persecutors guilty of treason, sedition, conspirators in a coup dāetat. Their actions against Trump are indisputable evidence of their guilt. And their mens rea.
The Left certainly does play the long game, but in this case, I don't think they care. They KNOW there will be no repercussions and should the Right mount any response, the Left will punish them for it with more lawfare and unjust treatment. It seems they are willing to push the populace to the edge of something very nasty in their desire to wield power. It is always about power.
Thank you YYR. The link is a great resource recapping all the crimes committed by former Presidents and government officials. I have already shared it widely!!
Jeff says, "but last year, the Democrat National Committee and Hilary Clintonās campaign were both fined for charges similar to Trumpās. They had obscured reporting some payments to former British spy Christopher Steele for his third-grade-level work on a salacious dossier falsely alleging Trump colluded with Russia"
Not to mention, very likely committing numerous real felonies in that process, like colluding with foreign powers for election interference.
Cranky today, and disheartened by all this. Was listening to Bannon's podcast last night, and heard Laura Loomer absolutely trashing DeSantis. Like how does this help conservatives here in Florida for the long haul? They are going to do more damage than Crist could ever hope to do. I voted for Trump twice, and am grateful beyond words for DeSantis' leadership the last 3 years especially. This is really taking an ugly turn. Bums me out.
I used to be a fan & saw her as a victim of the leftās ire when she was kicked off every single platform. I donāt know whatās happened but she has gone loco in her disdain for DeSantis. I just unsubscribed from her email list yesterday as all she focuses on is him.
Just like DT has been doing....going against DeSantis and calling him names like the man-child he is. If DT was a true patriot, he wouldn't be doing that. I have come to the conclusion that DT is a trojan horse and he's been playing his part on "their" stage.
So the greatest president of my lifetime continues to allow himself to be put through hell on behalf of AMERICA, so that he can later say, āFOOLED YOU. I was a DEMORAT all alongā.
Every president has endorsers. DeSantis canāt say donāt endorse me. He wants to be President. He will do an amazing job. Look at what he has accomplished. Again the RINOs are endorsing him so he doesnāt succeed. Donāt fall for it. DeSantis is playing by his own playbook and the RINOs donāt like it at all. Ignore them.
Apparently DeSantis is going to single-handedly take down Social Security and Medicare, all the while doing the bidding of the global elite. Which makes no sense to me, at all. DeSantis almost singularly (at first) opposed lockdowns, vax mandates, etc. (WEF initiatives). He has called out the danger of CBDC. He has taken on "woke" ideology in our universities. He took on Disney (about as globalist as an American corporation can get honestly). DeSantis runs a state of retirees. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think he's going to destroy SS?
It's fine to support Trump over DeSantis - totally respect that. But to trash DeSantis this way? Dirty and stupid.
The NeoCon/Marxist tactic against the populist liberty movement represented by Trump and DeSantis is "divide and conquer." Anytime I see this happening, I have to assume they have been bought and paid for by the Dem Bolsheviks. They WILL find those supposedly within our ranks that they can use to cause division.
Some of us are definitely not okay with what is being done to President Trump. Outrage after outrage. Some of us remember how DeSantis would have lost to the crackhead pervert Andrew Gillum in 2018 if not for Trumpās last minute endorsement. Some of us remember how long the beaches were shut down in Florida. Some of us have watched how DeSantis joined in with the Karl Rove, Jeb and George Bush crowd in a takedown Trump effort. We noticed his disappearance and then weak response to the Mar-a-Lago raid. We see the real DeSantis, not the glowing image the media is projecting.
And we are pissed! Yes, we are pissed!
You might want to look into some of those trumpeted triumphs of DeSantis. The Disney story backfired, but you donāt know that if this is where you get all your news.
Yet you've conveniently forgotten Trump's admonishment of both Sweden for not locking down at all and Gov Kemp in Georgia for reopening "too soon"; spearheading OWS, the atrocious CARES Act and attributing 100 million lives saved to that beautiful vaccine he refuses to make any apology for.
"Some of us" are definitely not okay with any of that while also careful not to lionize DeSantis. We can all agree that what has been/is being done to Trump is beyond absurd but that shouldn't automatically earn him favor nor does it follow that he's learned lessons sufficient to make him competent for another term.
Iām sure you remember all that from those terrible days of distress and confusion. And Iām sure you saw all the truth with great clarity immediately.
President Trump was trying to navigate something no other had ever been called upon to do. He was fighting continuous attacks from the left.
I think youāre reading from ātakedown Trump talking pointsā.
Yes, of course he was - BUT SO WAS DESANTIS! That's the point. It's strange to me that people want to give all this grace to Trump but not DeSantis. Does that not seem like a double standard? Especially when DeSantis so clearly went against the narrative when it was still extremely tough to do so? He single-handedly gave cover to other governors in the US, and to other leaders in the western world.
Trump deserves no sympathy re lockdown/covid policies. Early March, the cruise ship that was infected showed a regular flu season death rate. We knew young people were not affected. The only conclusion for his policies are he is either in on it or he's a complete and total moron, either way, excludes him from being some great leader.
And, there is the Trump economy, which many simply believe was amazingly good, but when you actually look at the raw numbers, was the worse of any modern day president, shooting up the debt like a rocket ship. Read the link below:
Hey I've lived in Florida for over 20 years, and have seen plenty of governors. I remember what happened here with the beaches, though when I moved back to south Florida in July of 2020, our beach (which is right across from my house) was open. And they would never been closed in the first place BUT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FAUCI. Does President Trump deserve grace on that? If he does, and I would argue he does to some extent, then certainly Governor DeSantis does too. And DeSantis demonstrated an amazing ability to course-correct, unlike President Trump who to this day does not admit any fault with any of the actions he took for the pandemic. I'm sickened by what is happening to President Trump, but I still want someone who can actually do the job of the executive.
Amen! I think DeSantis has done an outstanding job. I voted for Trump twice, but will vote for DeSantis. People always make excuses for Trump, like āheās gotten bad advice or heās politically naive.ā Trump also never admits to any mistake. DeSantis owns up to his mistakes and takes corrective action.
DeSantis is owned by the Globalists - he will have NO CLUE how to deal with world events, China and so on .. If you want to understand DeSantis, read Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse. You'll be grateful and learn so much.
Lol. Then Trump must be a first class globalist. Remember the summer of love and all the burning, looting and murders that happened on Trumpās watch? Didnāt happen here in Florida. Why? Because of our great governor. DeSantis even made it to where if protesters were blocking roads and threatening you, you have the right to run their sorry ass over with impunity.
Trump let Hillary & Biden slide on their crimes. DeSantis is purging the Soros bought and paid for prosecutors out of office. DeSantis served our country. Trump did not. DeSantis married for love and has a beautiful family. Trump married a trophy wife 30 years his junior and heās cheated on all of his wives.
DeSantis has done more to protect the citizens of Florida than Trump has ever done for Americans.
DeSantis either knows how to deal with them or he put on an AMAZING act during pandemic. He threw a major wrench in the WEF gears. Was it just dumb luck? And for all Trumps savvvy, did that help him beat the people who stole our freedom and the election from him? Like Iāve said a million times, voted for Trump twice and would vote for him again but wow. How do we know he wonāt fall for the next act of the WEF? CBDC will be the new āsolutionā to the crisis the globalists have created.
The most neutral thing I can say is, Time will tell.
Let's face it. Anyone running for office is, knowingly or not, compromised to some degree. This is because the political system in the US is a Uniparty. The last Presidential candidate who was independent and threatened to expose it was assassinated by the CIA. Hello? Where are the prosecutions? There are no statue of limitations on such crimes! Why does the CIA still exist? You think subsequent Presidents did not know the truth? They were all on notice. When popularity propelled Reagan into the lead to be President, the NWO representative G. Ford met him in, I believe, Omaha. When Reagan came out of that private meeting, he dumped his cabinet team and replaced them with the Bush team, except for J. Watts and we all know how long he lasted. Reagan got the message. Let the Neocon Bush team control your administration or you'll never be able to accept the people's choice for Presidency. I knew this then as assuredly as I know it now.
Do I hold this against Reagan? No, he was the best we could get at the time. No one could articulate the principles of American liberty better than he did. Just listening to him was an education in American liberty and he connected to the American people because of this. And the Neoconservatives got everything they wanted under the cover of his rhetoric. What rankles me is that to this day the Neocons claim Reagan as their legacy when they never even understood his ideals of American liberty. Neocons are statists and have more in common with Bolsheviks than they do with the American people which goes a long way to explaining the current political order.
Interestingly, even then the Democrats were running their mouth claiming that if Reagan is elected there will be a race war. My point is this. Even on a practical level, our hope cannot be in any one man. We are part of a liberty movement, the same populist movement Reagan connected with. Our enemy is a political SYSTEM, the Uniparty, that serves a Neocon/NWO/Marxist agenda. They are now intent on destroying the American people and culture any way they can including through population dilution by uncontrolled immigration.
And they have told us why they are doing this now, ie, the Reset. They know the system is going to automatically reset because they have drained everything they can out of the American people to support their empire and this empire is on the verge of imploding. They are approaching that financial brick wall the Soviet Empire hit when they imploded. At some point, the center cannot hold. We can see all of this developing in the international scene right now as nation after nation sees "the writing on the wall" and abandons USG hegemony. Yes, this history is being written by Him. This is His-Story.
The NWO has one big problem which George Soros alluded to when he said that bringing America into the NWO is proving to be a very difficult nut to crack (or words to that effect). They have yet to subjugate the American people and consolidate their control of the US, something the Bolsheviks should have accomplished with Obama and then Hellary but - Oops - someone got in the way: DJT. So not only do they face opposition abroad but they also face the opposition of the liberty movement in America. In reality, what got in the way was the populist liberty movement. DJT was just the catalyst to allow us to focus.
We are analogous to the French resistance movement of German occupied France in WWII. We are going to face increasing attacks while at same time the NWO regime faces mounting opposition from the developing geopolitical block overseas. They must beat us to win. Those are the stakes. The NWO is going to raise a new Iron Curtain. Alex Krainer explains it best here:
"...This new iron curtain would most likely encompass the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and parts of continental Europe. But the blockās viability will depend on whether it can also include the United States which remains an extremely tough nut to crack. The uncontrolled migrations, attack on statesā rights, and the all-out assault of the Bill of Rights, including the periodic mass shootings, are all occult oligarchyās attempts to crack it. It is all part of the total global war."
Great comment. I only regret it is so detailed many will skip it. CIA killing Kennedy after he threatened them is an enormous boulder to hang over all future presidents. We all really wish Trump could have taken on the deep state, for real... sadly only collapse seems like it will have a chance.
Excellent points Politico Phil. And they still almost took out Reagan. Probably would have it not for the Secret Service guy who made the judgment call on where to take him after he was shot. And just look at who almost became POTUS out of that fiasco. š
PS: my kid was still in college in 2020/2021, and I credit Governor DeSantis for university covid vaccine mandates never getting off the ground in our state. Thank God. What a nightmare that has been in some states/schools.
A friend sent me this Glen Beck video segment. In it Glen states openly that in view of all the recent time events, the United States is now seen as being shed of its Superpower status. I would have to agree. Along with such things a the Great Banana Republic of 2020, the world at large is going to take this trumped up Trump persecution charge as one more indication of a fall from grace into a third world state lawlessness. And more reason not to invest in the United States.
Somehow, 'these people' never seem to be capable of calculating the impacts of their criminal rashness in extended time.
No they donāt. Everything is supposed to just jibe smoothly with their ideological fantasies. So what if it goes against the grain of western principles in place and evolving since the Magna Carta? š
Yes, ideological fantasies as in not rooted in reality = insanity which is recipe for disaster for which we in the US dominated Woke Empire are about to pay the hideous price in spades. Just wait and see. Brace and prepare.
It's purposeful. What do you think Obama meant by "fundamentally transform?" That side can't stand our success, our wealth, our (former) virtue, our liberty, our happiness.
Fundamentally Transformed? In his book all about himself, Obama pretty much stated that he was a Marxist. So fundamentally transformed means transform from the last vestiges of the Christian principles of the old Christian American states republican in form and the Federal limited service government subordinate to the states (as in the first US Constitution 'for' and not later 'of') into a wholly Marxist secular government and/or governments.
It's bye, bye God. And hello Simon Says according to a Humpty Dumpty version of 'words mean whatever I say they mean' and according to any whimsical conceptualization of law ordering. Obama's vision of end result is ... Marxist government, a total surveillance and control society, with passports (limitation of movement), social credit scores (some already here), total control digital money (already here but about to be further formalized, institutionalized), all the fake Agenda 21/30/Green stuff ... and you will own nothing and like it.
This is a thumbnail sketch. There were plenty of other milestones along the road that got us to our present time of sorrows.
Yes!! DeSantis has walked the walk. His actions and deeds speak loudly. He is the man for now. He has integrity. Heās not a name caller or calling up porn stars. Heās a true statesmen and one we can all feel proud ofā¦.one that can be a role model for our kids. Trump most certainly is not a role model and I donāt want my kids thinking he is.
I think DeSantis has been a great governor, but when he's stepped out into national politics, I've been sorely disappointed. His backpedaling on his initial excellent response to Ukraine and then his first statement on Trump's indictment made me wonder if I could vote for him in a primary. If the Bushes, Paul Ryan, and Karl Rove are really consulting with his campaign, I want nothing to do with him. I will certainly weigh everything before I make a decision, but now he's pushing this legislation in Florida and even conservatives are upset: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdnyuz.com%2F2023%2F04%2F03%2Fright-wing-media-splits-from-desantis-on-press-protections%2F Those of you who live in Florida should look into this and make your voices heard if you disagree with it.
I just read your link article on this new bill in Florida. It sounds like it needs work and he didnāt think it through all the way yet. Jeff would be a good person to contact for ways to fix it if itās possible. But one slightly wayward bill doesnāt make DeSantis wrong for the job. It makes him human like the rest of us. I live in Texas and DeSantis made our governor look weak and ineffective with all he accomplished over the last two years.
So who, Biden? Because thatās what youāre looking at. Or even better, KAMALA!!!! Itās interesting that most former Trump voters I know, who want DeSantis, would vote for Trump if heās the nominee. But itās not true in reverse, if your comment is any indication. That tells me that manipulation is happening and itās not by DeSantis. And that doesnāt even take into consideration that there are people- 2 of my siblings included - who would not vote for Trump if you held a gun to their heads. But they would consider DeSantis, and one Iām almost positive would vote for him.
Milleyā¦Austin⦠shameful. Iām sure our āGeneralsā have been promised their allotment of 36oz Porterhouse Steaks drenched in real butter for selling out the United States and the American citizens.
Afghanistan withdrawal, arming the taliban, strategic oil reserves depleted, weaponry reserves given away, DOD deployment of jabs, emasculation of active duty soldiers, destruction of recruitment, Chinese spy balloon šetc etc etc. Traitors.
Besides the ones given to the taliban? Oh I donāt know⦠maybe we should look at a list of items sent to Ukraine gotta keep that proxy war going. Just one thought. š¤·āāļø
Well letās discuss thatā¦ok letās say there are 6,000 in storage just waiting to be fueled up and deployed either abroad or in country as needed. One can hope that weāve got both reserve fuel on hand now that we are no longer energy independent and the Saudiās are dealing in Yaun and lowering their production output..lets look at the depleted recruitment numbers of the humans required to participate in said deployment and the possibility of active duty members having health issues. I understand that senator Johnson is still waiting on those requested numbers. So if we do have said storage as you pointed out and we have a supply chain shortage of trained humans and the go-go juice neededā¦wellā¦? Iām saying we have need of Generals and a commander in chief who will put the defense of American citizens and America above all else. Thatās their job.
We have the fuel, easily. We have the ammunition. And most importantly we have the people.
Are recruitment numbers down? Absolutely.
We are exporting a lot of fuel, remember. A lot of Europe's LNG that used to come from Russia is now coming from the USA.
Biden doesn't care about America. He also is intentionally cutting aid to Ukraine and dragging it out vs sending what is needed. He is paying money to demilitarize DPICM versus send it to Ukraine for demilitarization for free.
Years ago some guy ran up and smacked Bill Gates in the face wirh a pie. LESLIE Stahl Needed one after that eyeroll....but instead of pie, the tin needs to be full of something more appropriate for liberals....I thought of this comment while cleaning my horse's stall...
On the spy balloon, as it was collecting intel, the democrat socialist administration in the Whitehouse told us that it was not collecting intel. Now, the American hating leftists tell us the intel that was collected had "limited additive value".
I think the Biden regime has already given the Chinese all the information they need, so by definition anything they might have gotten from the balloon would have limited added value.
Well they canāt have Trump or DeSantis at the helm. So it seems fitting they will get behind Cheney and prop her up the same way they did biden. Basement rallies with 6 people watching. Tons of media to give the appearance people are there. Lots and lots of lies and cover ups. Then cheat and have her āwinā ehem⦠selected so they can claim a R āwonā so all this talk of cheating is non-sense. Wash, rinse, repeat.
We underestimate the depths of hell they will descend into and the amount of evil they will perpetrate on us (to include but not limited toā¦.) cheat, lie, murder, set up, frame, imprison, and steal to obtain the power their greed and lust desire.
I actually would possibly disagree with that. I think what fueled them is to use him to get us infightingā¦and it worked like a charm! The conservatives are now infighting over this issue. The enemy strives to cause chaos and deception and it works on us every time. Itās why we are always behind the 8 ball.
Sooooo, Iām trying to think like a criminal DS demon - which is hard to do - and realize they wouldnāt come out and support anyone who isnāt pushing their agenda. So what better way to muddy the water, then prop up the most despised rino - and guarantee a āwinā with lots of cheating. It makes sense! Iām not claiming to know this. I can just see their tactics and project based on that. Maybe Iām wrong. š¤·āāļø
You know, several here keep repeating the same thing - Desantis is a RINO. It's like a mantra. I'm not sure who you are convincing. Stop with the mantra and offer whatever proof you have for examination. I get the same kind of mantras from the neocons and it is tiring. Put up and shut up.
It doesn't help. At this point, the populist liberty movement is represented by Trump and DeSantis. I'm suspicious of any dogmatic attacks because this is exactly what the Bolsheviks are trying to foment in our movement. Furthermore, the Bolsheviks are going to control the election results ONCE AGAIN and they will win the election. That's when the real battle begins. They want us divided so we can't fight.
We have to close ranks, hold our leaders' feet to the fire and take the battle to the enemy in a frontal assault. Their weakness is their hubris. They don't believe we can fight.
Well of course I wouldnāt support that and am watching that. Iām very aware of the landscape. It was just a possible theory regarding Cheney getting propped up. Thatās all.
š We are always 10 steps behind. We have to be able to TRY and think like criminals even though it doesnāt come naturally to us, so we can see them coming. š
I've seen so much insanity, i.e. Biden, Fetterman, for more read past c&c, that I would NEVER stick my neck out on ANY BET! I'm surprised at you @Jeff Childers!
Last night on local news, East Palestine woman being interviewed said she was recently tested and shared her urine has vinyl chloride and benzene in it.
If anyone believes the Republicans will play tit for tat and start doing anything more than āinvestigatingā every heinous thing done by Democrats, Iāve got a bridge I want to sell you.
This is first and foremost a distraction mechanism. Anyone talking about the Restrict Act before Congress? Or China infiltrating everywhere? They donāt need any stinkinā balloons, ask anyone in Michigan about two huge battery plants being planned under the table, one with outright ties to the CCP, incentivized by our state tax dollars. But the real reason nothing will be done on the other hand, is they are sending a message, āwe now own this country. We will crush you if you step out of lineā.
Off topic, but I had a thought this morning... A couple of years ago, a new charter school, called The Magic City Academy, opened in B'ham, AL where I live. The school is exclusively for LGBTQ and their "allies". Based on how gays were treated when I was in HS in the 90s, I didn't see why LGBTQ needed their own 'safe space' but they wanted one and built a new school with state & federal funding. It took me 2 years to realize why the school was really created in the first place. It seems obvious that parents from the rich, influential suburbs helped get this school created as a way to get LGBTQ students OUT of their school. It worked and it's a win-win.
Now that is a strategy: build their own place and make them feel special when in fact it's only a ploy to get them away from those who don't want the rhetoric. I wonder if any of the students in attendance or parents of those students see it?
It sure as heck SOUNDS like " adding genes to a virus to make it more deadly " would be pretty near to that virus "gaining function", that "function" being tremendously increased lethality.
Remember first off they think weāre stupidā¦and/ or not paying attention while they live to insult our intelligence by switching up words and definitions. More importantly always reloading the fear mongering and purposeful confusion. A constant state of anxiety is a tough place for any person, state, or country to be in. I often wonder how many of the evil power mongers are even human. Maybe theyāre a genetically altered type of conservative Christian eating lizards.
Iām not going to hold my breath waiting for the Demonrats to be prosecuted. Chuck Schumerās proclamation about the Intelligence Agenciesā āFive Ways to Sundayā attacks was not just bloviating. Alvin Bragg is acting under an umbrella shield.
We no longer have a free nation. We no longer have Rule of Law. Why pretend?
Justice is coming Willing Spirit. See my comment regarding President Trump still in control. The swamp is getting drained and the deep state is destroyed just as he said it would.
Landry of Louisiana and Paxton of Texas are currently doing it, going after the Xiden family. They probably both have larger political aspirations (Landry is running for gov) and the oil business probably gives them a way in.
I hope you are so right about that! But Iām not holding my breath. Maybe someday weāll know how many political murders have occurred in this nation.
I don't know about you all, but I'm completely burned out on our do-nothing GOP who sit back and watch our country burn and have all this open up to them regarding going after government criminals, REAL government criminals. Not some petty minor misdemeanor offenses, that are allegedly tied to Trump. Wake up!!!
If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, āVengeance is Mine, I will repay,ā says the Lord. āBut if your enemy is hungry, feed him, and if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for in so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.ā Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
ā Romans 12:18-21 NASB1995
Really understanding heaping burning coals on the head and knowing God will have HIS vengeance really changed the way I deal with people who are not acting very nicely. Sometimes I have to talk myself into it, but I have never been sad for not reacting meanly back or vindictively.
My husband is very good at it (especially with me when I get mad). It stops me dead in my meangirl tracks. I used to think he was trying to Svengali-like manipulate me out of being mad, but no, just his natural reaction. I do it now with friends. It teaches you kindness in the face of mean is strength and it also makes forgiving long term hurt a lot easier. God will sort out what needs sorting and it will be just. A good thing to praise Him for today!
Thank you Janice.
Proverbs 15:1 - A gentle answer turns away wrath . . .
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Iāve had a lot of opportunities to practice, but a huge turning point or learning opportunity was years ago in front of the abortion clinic with hateful people screaming and cussing at me. To respond in love was only possible by allowing Christ to speak through me. Good lesson.
And you never know who saw that interaction and got curious about Christ. Compassion and a kind word (IMO) are a lot more persuasive than other tools some may use to tell people about Christ. And there, in your situation, there was no doubt (in the eye of the onlooker) about the source of your gentleness.
Amen. My beloved sometimes reminds me that no one ever changed his/her opinions, political or otherwise, by being argued or harangued out of them, but only by love. Itās not always easy to practice, but it sure is compelling when we do šš»
That was truly a "Holy Spirit" moment, I'm sure, Janice. THE COMFORTER HAS COME and He is with us--ALL THE TIME!
There were many of those moments as we stood on the grass by the road on what felt like holy ground while the parking lot and building exuded evil. You could almost see the demons dancing on the roof.
I sure wish this was so in my family. I need a husband like yours and more grace to change our family.
Don't think I don't know how blessed I am for having him! Yesterday was our 30th anniversary. Maybe you will be the one like my husband. Being the kind one in the face of the snit thrower. He wasn't always like that. He said he was tired of fighting with me and asked God to direct his path. It was a wake up call for me. I asked God to close my big mouth and to start treating my husband like who he was to me - most important after God. It isn't perfection. But it will be one day.
That is so so beautiful Raptor. Pray for us. I come from a family of speaking horribly to one another. I see it but its so hard to break. We both have trauma in our past and lots of yelling in families. :(
Of course I'm going to pray for you!
Try picking one thing for one day. "I won't insist on the last word. Instead I will sit and listen and not say a word and keep my face neutral" or "I will say I am sorry even if I am mad and offer a hug to reset things and I won't get pissed if he rebuffs my hug. I will try later." Two very hard things that with prayer and getting bolstered by reading your Bible and waking every day with the goal things will get easier. But talk is easy. Go in with a plan and have contingencies for when things go sideways. You are not doomed to whatever course that you are on. God provides an exit ramp.
I wish I could āloveā this
I sympathize! I do really well usually not to be insulting or use hurtful words but the yelling is something I have a very hard time stopping š Raptor has some great ideas.
Love that perspective ā¤ļø
Well said. Blessed as well. Your husband is blessed that you are self aware about this. Yes, SNIT thrower is an apt description of MY behavior at times. Trying to be better. Sigh.
I was thinking those of us who commented here or liked the interaction of Raptor and Janice for her action at the clinic, might enjoy a ladies bible study uplifting eachother in being women and wives of God.
I know we all have pur own churches but truth is being primary caregiver of my kid I donāt get out for weekly bible studies. Iād love to connect with others who want to grow in this area. Seems like we have several ladies who would like to and we have some ladies who would do well to lead us.
If so, Iām not sure of other platforms but there is the fb group I started for C&C and we could do a subgroup chat for conversation.
Iām open to ideas! I need other women around me who openly struggle with this and more Titus 2 women to help lead! ā¤ļø
I would be up for it. There are plenty of people on CnC (thank you and sorry Jeff) who love to talk all things Bible. Maybe we could start a stack. I will give it some thought while I am peddling. Hope others might want to.
Sometimes we have to REALLY work on our grace. At least, I know I must. I am a mean girl by nature.
"Ask and you will receive", Lisa!
That is an amazing skill and one I still have to work on (a lot)!
You are demonstrating great wisdom, congratulations!
šØ The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. [2 peter 3:9]
That's right. His timing is perfect.
yes, CDC officials (and all the rest of you in the Biden-brained gvt agencies) come to the banquet and eat and drink the locally produced food and water in E. Palestine please
According to their deeds, so He will repay,
Wrath to His adversaries, recompense to His enemies;
To the coastlands He will make recompense.
So they will fear the name of the Lord from the west
And His glory from the rising of the sun,
For He will come like a rushing stream
Which the wind of the Lord drives.
ā Isaiah 59:18-19
God of love AND justice.
Without one, He would not be the other.
Amen.
It is interesting that under the old American Republic that 'law enforcement' officials were call Peace Officers. That is, they were to 'uphold and affirm' God's design for peace by upholding God's Law. The big clue to all of this was that early Americans took great pains to display the Two Tablets in American courthouses. Furthermore, early Americans knew their Bible and they knew that the civil magistrate was to be 'a terror to evildoers' just as it says in the Book of Romans. And so ... there was instrumentality in the civil state for a lawful 'vengeance is Mine says the Lord'. And so, justice was never to be on autopilot or on vacation in the civil administration of government. Hence vengeance was in law redress which can in some cases involve retribution exacted by sentence of punishment.
Thus, there are responsibilities demanded of Man in the maintaining of God's Peace under God's Law. It is therefore cause for lamentation that in a world now gone largely capricious and arbitrary, the product of an end justifies the means legal narcissism, the word 'responsible' is barely or not at all considered. Witness the Trump persecution fiasco current ongoing in New York.
Thank you!
And by the way, it may be added that the Trump Persecution writ large is an ongoing advertisement that the United States is Whack-O-Doodle Crazy, degenerate and not to be trusted. Not exactly top billing encouraging of further investment in the United States. Instead, arbitrary and capricious acts such as these are more fuel to the now raging fire of de-dollarization and Walk-Away. And I submit, the rest of the world is no longer walking away from the United States and its Woke Empire. It's now a full gallop run in the opposite direction. (Gold up today and over 2000. USD down. This is proof)
Never thought I would live in a 3rd world banana republic.
Same here ... and I can't say if its 2nd or 3rd or more. And I don't think it much matters. But if there is any doubt about it and the unthinking adolescent stupidity of it all, it's the non-stop train of failures across the board at all levels of thought and endeavor. The last straw as to doubts is this Trump trumped up circus. And I though Lawyer Childers said it well today.
I study financial stuff all the time. A lot of it has to do with restructuring. Clearly, the United States and its Marxist Woke Empire is irretrievably broke beyond repair. This means there has to be financial/monetary restructure. And the restructure cannot be another reiteration of what is killing us all. How it pans out I cannot say. But what is being done with de-dollarization abroad in the East (BRICS+) will to some large degree compel direction (redirection) in the West. And it won't be overnight. And there are apt to be fits and temper tantrums along the way. It will be interesting.
I'm betting that it cannot be the Great Reset, because that too would fail. They may try, but it just would only prolong the suffering. In the meantime, try not slip on any banana peels!
I love all this and agree but I think we are allowed to protect ourselves and go after them legally for crimes they have committed. We are not expected to be doormats. Jesus did take a whip made of cords and drive out the money changes and people selling doves in the Temple. We can just prosecute them with kindness saying āwe are sorry you did xyz and you will now have to face the natural consequences. We will witness and visit you in jailā.
Exactly.
As Christians, we are failing. The culture war began in the 1960's and many Boomer parents naively chose to let their children choose their path rather than guide them along and give them wisdom and direction and read the Bible with them. Probably following Dr. Spock's advice and Donahue on TV. I was almost lost because of my parents' lack of Christian guidance, but the Holy Spirit didn't give up on me.
Donahue gave some really bad advice on relationships. I still remember.
Works for me!
Thanks Janice. Needed this today.
It is a daily struggle to control my reaction to all that's going on. I'm having a very hard time being around people. I know this is my problem and it's in my own best interest to react with patience and kindness. It's hard to show love when I don't feel it. Every day I pray to God to help me be a better person. Sometimes it works. Other times not so much.
I find myself grumbling to myself out in public about the stupidity...when I see a mask especially. Then the Lord reminds me to walk in freedom and joy in Him. He shouldn't have to remind me so often!
I think that also. Why do I have to keep being reminded? I just get too caught up in the moment.
Same!! I want to be gentle but it doesnāt always happen and I regret it later always.
Ditto.
If it helps, in the World Split Asunder, we all are daily having a rough time against the deliberately engineered daily assault and battery. It's okay folks to get angry at the people beating us up. In fact, the whole world is pissed as hell and that is why they are disengaging from the West and de-dollarizing at breakneck speed forthwith.
Indeed. We can see all of this developing in the international scene right now as nation after nation sees "the writing on the wall" and abandons USG hegemony. Even Saudi Arabia is disengaging with the USG and aligning itself with the developing eastern geopolitical block. And what is the USG and NATO doing? Like the Borg assimilating everyone it comes in contact with, NATO has just DOUBLED its border with Russia. What will Russia do when the USG puts missiles in Finland?
Misery loves company? It helps to know I'm not the only one struggling.
Hi Tracy! And thanks again and so nice to hear from you.
No, I do not believe it's a case of 'misery loves company', although I suppose company of the right kind can be very comforting. Nope! This can of worms of long suffering is thrust upon us from without by Evil people persecuting us and waging war upon us, the same as they ruin lives abroad with their incessant wars of expansion (and so far all colossal failures and trillions down the toilet).
Increasingly, I find it all an exercise in Faith of the kind that retains joy in ones life. Even still, everyone once and awhile we (me and De Wife) have to regroup because at times, it is indeed overwhelming that such exponential large sheer Evil is being perpetrated across the face of the globe.
It sure does help, though, to keep company with like-minded people. And acts of resistance to evil validate the life of the soul as we imperfectly separate ourselves from evil.
Thank you for your comment. It does help knowing how many people are having the same issues and understand. I don't have very many people around me who are on the same page but the ones I do I cherish and thank God for. Also, everyone here keeps me going. š
Yes! And to boil it down, it is highly problematic be a sane fish swimming in an insane world. Cling to the wisdom of Scripture as guide, continue to struggle in growth of character in the ways of the Lord ... and cast out destructive self-doubt attachments. And you'll do just fine.
And remember always, the demonic forces always want to tear us down, incinerated our home and families. We must never consent to this.
Ever get the idea that they're forcing the de-dollarization so they can turn to the public with their new currency and say "Hey, they turned away from us. It's not our (Wash D.C.) fault!" and the MSM will support that lie and 40% of Americans will believe it. And the rest of the world will be cast as homophobes and racists.
I think it is much more complicated. First, the 'we' among us tend to ascribe all knowing superpowers to our enemies. And we tend to think that they are smart. Perhaps even smarter then we are. Well, if this was all true ... then they would not be in so much deep trouble now, victims of their own Woke Stupidity. For example, if I knew decades ago the de-industrializing the US, shipping industry and jobs abroad, was a really not a good idea, why didn't the Dear Leaders of the collective Western World Woke Empire know this? And if I knew that Financial Commercialization at the expense of an emphasis on a real production of goods and commodities was a really bad idea, why didn't our august Dear Leaders know this? I could add much to this list, but perhaps ... the point is made. The truth is that these Woke Leaders have thrown all tradition out the window and have replaced it with an Ideological World View detached from reality and human nature. This detachment from reality and human nature made the Prim Movers of the West quite insane, and moreover with a diabolical penchant quite akin to an arsonist holding a can of gasoline in one hand and a lit match in the other.
The below is a first rate survey of what is going on. I vouch for the view presented as being more or less a very realistic statement of where we are and where things are likely to go. I think it will add much to anyone's understanding as to questions no pertaining.
U.S. Dollar on Brink of Extinction? Chinaās De-dollarization Agenda Is Creating a Global Shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwlcInBrqog
This second video has a bit of good statement in it. One can at least get somewhat a provisional grip on how the rest of the world is looking at the contemporary Western madness. My reservation is that this video features Jeffery Sachs who is establishment and had WEF ties. Jeffrey does seem to be singing another different tune these days, but it is not entirely 'our song' if you get my meaning. Still, it worth listening to for as far as it goes.
BRICS rising as neocons destroy the west w/Jeffrey Sachs
https://rumble.com/v2g4cj6-brics-rising-as-neocons-destroy-the-west-wjeffrey-sachs-live.html
As and aside: the basic schism in the collective West is that between the God centered Law and constitutions which the founder/framers gave to the Americans, and that of the Marxist replacement government centered in secular humanist based law. And if the Crazies hate Putin, and aside from geostrategic considerations, it because Putin reinstated God, Russian Orthodoxy and Christian morality back into Russian society. The whole thing going on is a war between the traditions of the world and a Woke Globalist totally bankrupt Marxist vision of Utopia, a world which never was nor never will be.
Thanks for the question.
Me too Tracy. Nobody is a saint and we are all practicing until we are reunited with the Lord.
Just keep trying to do better every day. That's what I pray for.
Stay strong!
NO WAY. WAY PAST TIME FOR TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK.
Notice that it says āif possibleā¦ā
It does not say you cannot wish for/desire justice. Good governance should mete that out (I said good). On the other hand, preoccupation with vengeance rarely works out in your favor. In fact it can ruin your life.
I need to research this more, but I believe the intent of turning the other cheek refers to personal offenses. Societal justice is a different subject. God intends for governments to be just and for righteous people to stand up for what is right.
"If the Jews, as subjects of Rome, did not comply with a Roman soldierās requests for anything from a drink of water to handing over personal property, a swift backhand to the right cheek was common. But why would Jesus instruct His followers to offer the left cheek as well?
Paul T. Penley explains in āTurning the Other Cheekā: Jesusā Peaceful Plan to Challenge Injustice,ā āRoman soldiers tended to be right-handed. When they struck an equal with a fist, it came from the right and made contact with the left side of the face.
When they struck an inferior person, they swung with the back of their right hand making contact with the right cheek. In a Mediterranean culture that made clear distinctions between classes, Roman soldiers backhanded their subjects to make a point. Jews were second-class.ā The Roman slap was an insult to the Jewsā personal dignity."
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/what-does-it-really-mean-to-turn-the-other-cheek.html
Really good! Jesus was not weak, did not practice tolerance of anything and everything. To know him we not only need to read the Word, but to understand what his words meant in that time. I need to study more!
He turned over the tables of the money changers in the temple. Evil. Called out the wicked.
He certainly had an overabundance of patience with His people and in particular His disciples. And now His Church. God CANNOT tolerate sin.
Christ is able to show His strength when we are weak. Christ never abuses his strength and never uses his unlimited strength unjustly. We are not called to tolerate evil. Not at all.
Avoid all appearances of evil
"If you have a cloak sell it and buy a sword".
I'm sure someone will place that in proper context. Love this C&C community!
Then Jesus said to him, āPut your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword."
I love these deeper insights into these stories that give us expressions such as, "Turn the other cheek." With a fuller understanding of the context, we see that Jesus was actually advising that we stand our ground, not pathetically "turn the other cheek" and let bygones be bygones, and asking or allowing ourselves to slapped again...Which is, I'd guess, how most "understand" Jesus's teaching here. No, be bold!
One of the most transformative explanations for me of the Beatitude, "The 'meek' shall inherit the earth," was the explanation of the word "meek." In the Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke, that word did not have the meaning we ascribe to it in English or via translation into the Greek.
One of its many meanings included its allusion to being ššššššššš, flexible. When I put that meaning into the Beatitude, "And the ššššššššš shall inherit the earth (the land), that resonated for me. Of course, Jesus would say that! Not the shy and retiring inheriting the land, but those who are teachable, open, flexible...Indeed.
Beautifully worded - thank you for enlightening us, "She"!
But God does not like proud people. Thus the double sin for Pride Week, not to mention that they absconded with the rainbow which is another Biblical symbol of godly promise.
This dovetails nicely to Jesus' amplification of his Sermon on the Mount where he details what loving your enemies looks like (it is in Matthew chapter 5 verses 38-48 - Mt5:38-48 for the people who might be wondering about the bible abbreviation structure) He tells us WHY we should do it and why He allows goodness to fall on both the good and evil. It is jam packed with answers! Luke 6:27-35 talks of turning the cheek, the value of all the cheek turning to the Christian and is where we get the "Do unto others as we would have others do unto us" saying. (any curious readers?: Luke is the third book in the New Testament-- Matthew, Mark then Luke which is one of the 4 Gospel books(Gospel loosely meaning good news about Christ and what he did for us).
Trigger warning (smirk): Tangentially, there is another verse out there about (as a Christ follower) being a good slave. That will enrage people these days. Makes me laugh thinking of it.
Oooo, speaking of amplification and Jesus......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WzSH9-9pw Parks is a Florida boy so there you go. Enjoy.
And of that is not enough for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9lKTj2pk90
Kinda Florida funky.
Later Jay
It is a moderating consideration designed to keep us from tearing down our own houses at the first flash of gun powder. Think of it as an anti-Snow Flake measure as a sort of wrath inhibitor. In short, we need not go to war over every little trifle of offense. Wisdom is always needed in the application of Scripture. And one verse of Scripture can never subtract from or undo the continuity of Scripture from Alpha to Omega.
I think what I stated above applies here as well; we show no open retribution or revenge, rather we pray for their spirits to awaken to the truth of God in them. We are commanded, in the Lordās parader, to forgive them of their offenses as we have been forgiven of our sins by God. I donāt think it means to continually allow them to abuse us or others, but rather to use the full extent of the law as it applies to evil-doers. This is not vengeance, but standing up for what is right and true and protecting ourselves and those who need it. I could be wrong, but God didnāt give us a mind and strength to not defend ourselves against brutality.
Like you suggest- we are to pray for our enemies too! Cyn
That's a good point, Janice. I do not find the principle of self-defense anywhere in the Scriptures, but I DO see laying down our lives for someone else. In matters of society, we are to stand up for others and protect them. This often means standing up to, combating, and subduing evil on behalf of others. It is not in the spirit of vengeance, but in the spirit of what Jesus did for us: laying down our lives for others.
Defending the innocent, standing up for justice, protecting widows and orphans, etc.
From my favorite book of the Bible - James.
One of my fave books as well--it puts the "rubber on the road" and "practicalizes" our Christian doctrine.
The right of self-defense is abundant in Scripture. For example, "Thou shalt no kill" as the negative averal implies "thou shalt not be killed" which in turn implies directly the right of self-defense from which in law we get the term 'justifiable homicide'. There are plenty more such examples in the Old Testament, and more up front direct in the taking. And the greatest statue in the world is The David in the Academy in Florence. That would be David in the act of contemplating the slaying Goliath ... all in defense of the Hebrew tribes. So, it is not just self-defense ... but also in defense of the family and the extended family ... and the larger family of the dwelling place called country. And all so that the just (righteous) can live in God's Peace under God's Holy Law Order.
The Fallen Western Church teaches a New Testament divorced from the Old Testament as a sort of schismatic heresy. This teaching is in the character of pure Scofield dispensational nonsense.
My Dad always kept his Scofield Reference Bible handy--it was well worn!!
It's a shame that few Christians would even understand your last two lines.
I think Thou shall not murder is the correct translation. Big difference.
It depends upon which Bible one uses. In the KJV, the Geneva 1599 and the American Standard Version, it is 'Thou shall not kill'. In many other Bibles the word 'murder' is used. But whether it is kill or murder, the understanding by divines is always stated within the context of what is lawful. And whether one reads Luther, Calvin or R. J. Rushdoony, it is always so.
The purpose of the covenantal injunction of the Sixth Commandment is to do no harm to one's neighbor. Hence, the deeper purpose of the Commandment is equally an instruction in how to 'love they neighbor' by doing him no harm or injury, and loving him by living responsibly with one's neighbors in a state of God's Peace. Below is from the Westminster Confession of Faith, larger confession. It illustrates the point.
WLC 135: What are the duties required in the Sixth Commandment?
https://thewestminsterstandards.com/wlc-135-what-are-the-duties-required-in-the-sixth-commandment/
Answer: The duties required in the Sixth Commandment are, all careful studies, and lawful endeavors, to preserve the life of ourselves1 and others2 by resisting all thoughts and purposes3, subduing all passions4, and avoiding all occasions5, temptations6, and practices, which tend to the unjust taking away the life of any7; by just defense thereof against violence8, patient bearing of the hand of God9, quietness of mind10, cheerfulness of spirit11; a sober use of meat12, drink13, physical14, sleep15, labour16, and recreations17; by charitable thoughts18, love19, compassion20, meekness, gentleness, kindness21; peaceable22, mild and courteous speeches and behavior23; forbearance, readiness to be reconciled, patient bearing and forgiving of injuries, and requiting good for evil24; comforting and succoring the distressed, and protecting and defending the innocent.25
So, some say 'murder' is the better usage. But I say neither 'murder' or 'kill' is adequate without expository enlargement. R. J. Rushdoony is probably the most expansive look into the meaning of the Six Commandment. This would be The Institutes of Biblical Law, Vol. 1, pages 219 - 332.
I also recently discovered from the teachings of Mary Magdalene, that we are commanded to love the āspiritā of all Godās children; keeping in mind that not all humans are following Godās Way, at any given time, and thus their spirits are not pure. I take this to mean we are not commanded to love, or tolerate, their human actions, but only their spirits, for they, as do we, have the opportunity to repent and be included in Godās love and compassion. It is a choice for each of us as his creations. This helps me to better accept the evil nature manifested in humans, understanding they have not yet awakened to their true calling by God. It also assures me that God has everything under control. I donāt need to put myself in a position of judgement or revenge; that is Godās alone. I must pray for the evil-influenced spirits to awaken and be reunited with their creator. This generally quells my overwhelming, not-so-divine, human desire to take them out; however righteous it might feel at the time! š
It is worth remembering that all humans are Godās creation, but not all of them are His children. Some are children of the devil.
āBy this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.ā
ā 1 John 3:10
Thank you, Janice, for shining light on that verse. I'd also suggest one read and contemplate Matthew 13:24-30, the parable of the wheat and the tares ... which explains why both are allowed to grow side-by-side until the harvest ... at which time the tares will be thrown in the fire.
Justice need not be instantaneous to remain justice.
Amen Janice! Not all people are children of God!!!
It will be up to the Righteous King Judge (our risen Savior) to tell who are the "sheep" and who are the "goats" on that "great and mighty White Throne Judgment" .
Hey Dutchess, I just started reading a book a few ppl here recommended called "Live not by Lies". In just the first Ch a priest's motto in the face of totalitarianism (which is what I think you may be not turning the cheek for) was SEE. JUDGE. ACT. See meaning be awake to the realities around you. Judge meaning soberly discern those realities in light of what you know to be true - esp. in light of what you were taught as a Christian. Act meaning After you have reached your conclusions about these realities you must actively resist evil.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is what you mean. Actively resisting evil (and if you are a Christian, you would be doing it in light of what God teaches in the Bible about evil - or as a humanist - what you perceive as evil if you think evil exists).
It just made me think of you so I thought I would hop on and talk to you.
Thank you. Yes..to not act against evil is wrong. And that book is on my reading list!
Ron Dreher is on Substack now!
Good thoughts.
I just came for the Bible verses and testimonies. ā„ļø
I have to prepare my mind with them before reading Jeffās letter. As Iāve said before, he is a master of making it all palatable, but gee whiz, what gross and frustrating material he has to work with.
I have to read afterwards to wash my soul. š¤ā„ļø
Actually the verses say "if able from yourselves, living in peace with all mankind: not avenging yourselves, beloved, but you must now give place to the wrath of GOD, for it has been written, " Vengence is Mine, I shall repay" (Deut 32:35) says the LORD. But " if your enemy hungers, you must continually feed him, if he thirsts, you must continually give him drink: for doing this you will heap coals of fire upon his head." (Pro. 25:21,22) Ido not overcome evil by doing evil but I overcome evil by doing good." From the ONE NEW MAN BIBLE translated from the original Hebrew not paraphrased to bring it in step with our current language. Roman's 12:9,-21 gives rules for following "the Way" which was what Yeshua and His followers were known as.
yes, impulsive retribution, plotting vengeance are worldly, fleshly drives that do not serve any good; David withheld from striking Saul, Abigail interceded on behalf of both her household but also on behalf of David himself. Compromising one's spirit and striking back to get even also asks the Divine to remove himself from the case at issue and the consequences and legacy that result.
We are to fight on behalf of the innocent and oppressed never for worldly gain or acclaim or to produce justice within the court of our own mind.
I just keep my distance from these twisted thinkers. When I see suffering at the hands of others, I have zero patience.
Thank you! And Correcto Mundo Right On!
It does Depend Upon Me, and All Wo-Men Do Not Get My turned Cheek. I Prefer picking up the smooth river rock like David to Smite Goliath. You read your Bible and i'll read mine.
BTW, Kid Rock reflects my non biblical sentiments as well
https://twitter.com/i/status/1643090302410936323
David relied on and proclaimed God when he met Goliath. So it wasn't really the stones, but the reliance on God. Stones being the tool of David - a small and unimportant sheep herder with no battle skills (outside of killing a Lion which he proclaimed as the grace and work of God) used by God to demonstrate His power perfectly thru a weak one - leaving no doubt whose hand was upon him.
Not sure what your Bible says about David. You rely on your own greatness and strength? Good luck with that.
My Point is "He Fought". I am Not a "Turn the Cheek" and become Lion Food thinking that God will deliver weaklings from their fate. Good Luck with That. I have an Iherent God Given Right to Self Defense. That's my point.
Without his reliance on God he would have been a mere shepherd with a smooth rock and a sling. Apart from that, I agree you have the right to self defense and that it is God given. Glad to see that you believe that. It is not given to you by man or government or society. If so, you could ex out the inalienable part.
Isnāt there just one?
One Bible full of contradictions as it was written by many different men. Please feel free to enlighten me.
But, under no circumstance do I intend to be fed to the Lions, again. :-)
God spoke through men; they wrote down what God instructed them to say. All Scripture
Is the inerrant, authoritative, all sufficient, everlasting Word of God, in its entirety!
Well, Gen, in my experience, "contradictions" are in the eye of the beholder. I've learned that scripture is a coherent tapestry that only reinforces it's actual meaning with each thread. I'm sure I'll never plumb the depths of this tapestry.
I would rather reply to you on my substack than someone else's, respecting C&C's territory. all the best
genearly.substack.com
And any perceived contradictions are indicative of my human inability to understand, not a failure of God Almighty to communicate what He wished. When i come across something I don't understand, I tuck it away for another time when the Lord will show me what it means.
Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
ā Romans 2:4
I really needed to hear that after the above Monkeypox story.
I havenāt read the post yet. Sounds like Iām going to need a shower afterward.
I canāt even get into some of the stuff. I just bypass it. I read the commentaty.
I need to remind myself of this verse every day.
Unfortunately, thatās what evil is counting on.
What they are not counting on is the Lordās vengeance. They will pay.
ā[N]ow, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them? I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?ā
ā Luke 18:7-8
This is true. They arenāt counting on our Fatherās vengeance because they think he doesnāt exist.
Atheists can believe that because they do not grasp the Lord's timing: 2 Peter 3:8, 'With the Lord, a day is as a thousand years ..."
Or Habakkuk 2:3 (written centuries before Jesus' birth): "For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry."
60 Minutes hasnāt been prestigious in over 50 years but glad MTG spoke her mind.
I'm surprised her eyes were even able to roll the way they did with all of that plastic surgery. Maybe it was just a pinched nerve or something.
Yeah, and they made sure we all saw it, a nonverbal message that Leslie was sane, and righteous, while MTG was off base....
Only good thing Stahl ever did was asking Madelyn Half-Bright if the lives of 500K Innocent victims was worth invading Iraq. And the incredibly stupid and heartless answer that Half-Bright proceeded to respond with.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ogNnaF7y7ZM?feature=share
Just think about who 60 Minutes audience actually is especially during the NFL season. A bunch of hypnotized cheap-beer swilling people who have been watching totally fixed football games all day, and probably have no ability or energy at that point to bother to change the channel, as they are in a drunken coma.
Bud Light probably!
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Omg!! Said in the same spirit as our fearless C&C leader! I laughed so loud!!
Can view the (60 Minutes - "BROUGHT TO YOU BY PFIZER") full interview here:
https://rumble.com/v2fyu62-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-sits-down-with-60-minutes.html
But they aired it, which is surprising to me.
What she said and did to the ATF in GA at that gun shop was awesome. Honstestly she is a true freedom fighter.
Sadly, most Democrats do not recognize truth when they hear it... by definition, a Pedophile: "a person who is sexually attracted to children". MTG should have asked Leslie why resident Biden sniffs children's hair, snuggles their necks, and somehow manages to place his hand in the most inappropriate places on them... I would NOT allow my children within a 100 yards from him!!!
One has to wonder whether Marjorie Taylor Greene did bring up Biden's sniffing/snuggling/other inappropriate behaviour, and 60 Minutes simply edited it out.
I watched LStahl tilt her head as one does when listening to a childācondescending, dismissive to MTG. The eye-roll was the cherry on top. š
Jeff could you PLEASE start an organization that we will be happy to fund, TO GET EVERY CONSERVATIVE AG in this country to PROSECUTE BIDEN/HILLARY/CLINTONS/ALL DEM FORMER PRESIDENTS LIKE OBAMA ...
If we do not launch an all out blitzkreig now, they will keep on keeping on. It is time for all of us to stand up and tell these mafiaoso's we will NOT tolerate it, and in no uncertain terms.
You need to round up the AG's and assign them their prosecutions....
Really I am serious. IT IS DEAFENING THE SOUND OF CONSERVATIVES doing JACK.
Ya Iām with you! Iām sick of the R politicians doing nothing but lip service. Who cares if they sent a strongly worded letter? WHO CARES!!! Millions of Americans are sick to death of the inaction by absolutely everyone.
We need a list of DAās and attorney generals from each state that are willing to stand up and be courageous.
We The People would get behind THAT!
A single magic word explains it all: UNIPARTY ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
BING! BING! BING!
We have a WINNAH
Indeed. We need third, fourth, and fifth parties. This country always had more than two....until recently.
šØ America is a one-party state; but with typical American extravagance, they have two. ~~Julius Nyerere, some half a century ago š
And this is a huge way JEFF could help. Pull the courageous.
Iām sick of all the āconservativesā that are saying they are against tit for tat. Republicans need to start prosecuting corrupt democrats. Hunter should not be given a free pass. If republicans continue to do nothing (since theyāre above retaliation š) democrats learn that they will never face any consequences no matter how bad their behavior.
Republicans lack:
1. Cojones.
2. Control of the judiciary.
3. Political power.
4. Media control.
Better-described as RINOs. They were better known as establishment Republicans before the veil was lifted. Theyāve been exposed.
The same cast of assorted neocons and uniparty establishment such as Dubya, Cheney (the elder and the lesser), Mitt, Petraeus and the other top brass with a .100 victory percentage, and Rick "Tough Nerd" Snyder, who came out in full force for Biden and remain in his camp.
Once an avalanche starts, the snow doesn't roll up-hill. There will be no "pay-back".
Because they are all guilty at some level, or are hoping to become part of the gravy train. Power protects power, ultimately.
Exactly. And I always wonder, in the age of Epstein, who has blackmail material held over their head to āinfluenceā their actions, or lack thereof.
Speaking of Epstein, I just read somewhere that Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase is going to have to testify about his bank laundering money for him.
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I agree. 'Taking the high road' is not working. Trump threatened Hillary's arrest if he became President but then relented calling her and Bill 'good people'.
Do you think that she is not celebrating his arrest now?
Go after all of them. The liberals want to make our country a 3rd world, three ring circus..then let them be part of the shameful fun!
Enough is enough already!
Trump is polling at over 60% and DeSantis is down to around 13%. Thereās a reason for that. Think about it. The dems have been chiming ad nauseum about āno one is above the law.ā Trump will prove it to be a true statement. Does anyone really believe that Trump and his lawyers would accept any of these infantile shenanigans from a corpulent con man - a paid corpulent con man - like Bragg. Trump knows what he is doing. Never forget that. The Art of War by Sun Tzu: appear weak when you are strong.
I just think they want to build up Trump in the polls. They donāt want an independent thinker and good man like DeSantis to win. Trump could have done a lot of things while President like prosecute Hillary, pardon most of the January 6th protestors, fire Fauci, end lockdowns, open schools, investigate other treatments besides just the vaccine. He was weak at the end it it caused a lot of needless deaths.
hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
Trump had to get conservative federal justices into courts around the country. Going after Hillary wouldn't have had as great an impact as those judges have had and would make her a martyr (kind of like Trump is turning into a martyr now). Now we just need law agencies and prosecutors that will get the criminals in front of those judges. If only Soros' money dried up. Wouldn't that be nice?
They all want to make us a 3rd world country. People were fooled that Trump had some amazing economy going, which is utterly as far away from the truth as possible, faring worse than any modern day president:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/04/david-stockman/lock-him-out/
hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
I said nothing of the sort. I merely was pointing out for the die hard Trump supporters that he is no conservative when it come to the economy. And the covid excuse is null and void since he chose to lockdown the country as well as dole out trillions in relief payments.
Hind sight is 20-20, J-O. The situation was more complex in the moment. I donāt expect you to remember. The USA has pumped too much fluoride into the water. Covid also brought us the lowest gas prices in decades. Based on similar simple logic we should bring Covid back to get low gas prices again. Simple logic is gas prices low = good, so Covid = low gas prices = good. Covid = good. Hogwash!
Your comment has nothing to do with what I stated, nor does it in any way add anything to the discussion. The situation was not complex. Very early on, we knew it was virtually harmless to young people, and even in older healthy people didn't have an infection fatality rate outside of a severe flu season.
Trump is either a complete idiot, or he is in on it. You decide. Either outcome is no good for a leader of the country. Idiots like me with a laptop saw through the covid 1984 narrative early on, but the 5 dimensional chess player Trump could not somehow.....laughable.
And read the link I shared. His economy was horrible. All bravado, no real substance, like the reality star he once was. He acts like a jr high bully for christ sake. Loser, in the most sorry way. The sooner people wake up to this, the sooner we get out of this mess.
I went to the Lew Rockwell article, which is the one I guess you want viewed. He claims to be a Libertarian. Libertarians don't generally care for liberals or conservatives. Are you a libertarian? Lew's information claims that Carter did better than Trump, by his numbers. I need not dig any further. I lived during the Carter years; they weren't great. I also saw globalist propaganda in that article. Make money and get power at all odds. The misinformation and hysteria that came from previously believed scientific organizations like the CDC fooled most people; I'd guess >95%. I, too, washed my hands, bought disinfectant, didn't wear my shoes in the house and sterilized my mail and groceries using UV-C light. I wore a diaper on my face, across my beard, because I KNEW the masks were BS, but where were the studies? I was the idiot. Then I started to see the cracks. My family in the medical field continued to tout CDC data and screamed about the danger; about the workers/friends that died at home from Covid. They judgmentally questioned my family and I about the jab. I surfed the web looking for info. It was months before there was enough personal data for me, based on what I was seeing in day to day life, to start turning skeptical to the government scientists. It was the Tuskegee Study all over again and I'd been fooled! Throwing shade at President Trump or others may make you feel better about yourself, but I doubt it adds much joy to your life. May God bless you and your family with eyes to truly see and ears to truly hear, friend. Feel free to insult me further and criticize Trump. He's no knight in shining armor, but he's the best we've got at the moment. If God wants him in the Presidency again, he will be President again. I will pray that the best person becomes president, but God's will be done. P.S. my wife has a severe autoimmune disease that the doctor's have a very hard time containing; colds are two week ordeals. I did what I thought needed to be done to protect her and the kids.
I bash all politicians because it is our job as citizens to hold them accountable, and there is more than enough to hold T accountable for. They are supposed to work for us, we are not supposed to idolize them, which many in our country sadly do.
I have long studied media and propaganda therefore was easy for me to see through covid BS. The politicians and media were all in lockstep from the beginning, which is probably the biggest red flag there is.
Carter years were not great, but neither were the Trump years. His supporters think so because they are blindly believing him. He exploded our nation's debt.
I am not sure what I said that was a direct insult to you, but sorry you took it that way.
Amen. Thatās another reason (of many) why I support DeSantis over Trump.
At this point itās totally up to Trump. If Trump is edged out, somehow, he could peel enough supporters to doom anyone else.
Which is precisely what the Ds are hoping for, and likely their motivation for all the legal games they are playing.
This is the reality. hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
DeSantis has been doing what the Democrats have been doing for the past decade, staying ahead of the oppositionās next move... too well. Like heās being coached by the Uniparty. I know I can trust Trump to MAGA. I canāt trust DeSantis just yet. Heās a lawyer (no offense Jeff) and Trump isnāt. Bidenās a lawyer. Trump isnāt. Lawyers are important but not as President of the USA right now. We need a sneaky fighter.
hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
Louisiana and Texas AGs are currently investigating charges against Xiden family members, likely the reason for the cautionary op-ed.
Laissez les bons temps rouler!
Oh thank GOD!!! Gives me hope, and thanks for telling me!
Yes! Montana AG Knudsen should indict & arrest the Biden admin that allowed that balloon to gather dangerous info on Montanans putting them at certain risk!
Totally agree. I would add that if the case goes forward, thereby ignoring statute of limitations, one of these AGs MUST go after Obama, Holder, and Clinton.
Why stop there?? They could bring morals charges against JFK while theyāre at it or collusion charges to FDR.
š Also I'd like to get FDR and Nixon for taking us off the gold standard...
Hey Iām Italian, the mafia is/was much kinder than these evil šæ creeps we are dealing with. Iām serious! Ask my uncle in Lewisburg.
I think we need to end the partisanship and prosecute all of them. Trump locked us down knowing the virus was not truly life threatening, completely obliterating the economy, pushed the poison death shot (literally still brags about it), GWB like the rest should be in jail for war crimes, etc.
We have to realize they are all evil.
My memory of it was that he did not want to lock us down!
It was his decision to lockdown and he absolutely pulled the trigger on it. This was in spite of knowing the covid was virtually harmless to younger people, and after the infamous cruise ship that was infected that showed an infection fatality rate of a regular flu season.
Then he paid out trillions of dollars to families and businesses. I recommend you read this if you have the time. Damning article about how the Trump economy was the worst of any modern day president, of course partly because of the pandemic, but it was his decisions of how to handle it, which were horrible decisions.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/04/david-stockman/lock-him-out/
Dems ānew rulesā and setting precedence. Rās better wake the hell up and realize the Dā, ran by the radical minority, have declared war on them and half or more of America. AGās, local prosecutors...isnāt there a laptop of Hunter committing a multitude of felonies?? On video FFS. Narcotics, prostitution, gun crimes, etc. Surely it wouldnāt be difficult to determine the jurisdiction these offenses occurred. I wouldnāt normally be in support of a ātit-for-tatā, but Dās drew first blood and Rās trying to be the bigger person strategy isnāt and hasnāt worked. Time to call their bluff and as my mom woulda said āFive them a taste of their own medicine.ā
The reason nothing major happens is because both sides are full of guilty actors. Power protects power.
Thatās the scary thing! Absolutely blackmailing themselves.
I think you are right about this and its a great idea. I would contribute to a multiplier.
I wonder if this case against Trump is a ploy to get these types of lawsuits abolished so that Bidenās very serious crimes wonāt be prosecuted. Could the Dems be playing a long game? How could the NYT not see how this can get out of hand. The NYT is truly just a propaganda machine for the DNC now and has lost all credibility.
TDS blinds the afflicted, and destroys their ability to reason.
Turnabout?
For those atop this tyrannical regime to allow and adopt these abuses of our legal system means that they do not fear these abuses being used against them.
And to not fear these abuses being used against them is a belief that their opponents will never have the power to allow and adopt them as turnabout.
And to believe that their opponents will never have the power to allow and adopt the abuses as turnabout is to admit that they are in control of election results.
And to admit that they are in control of election results is to admit that elections are rigged. And that Donald Trump was the rightful winner of the 2020 election; it was a stolen election.
Which is an admission that Donald J Trump is the rightful President of the United States. And his opponents and persecutors guilty of treason, sedition, conspirators in a coup dāetat. Their actions against Trump are indisputable evidence of their guilt. And their mens rea.
Perfectly stated!
The Left certainly does play the long game, but in this case, I don't think they care. They KNOW there will be no repercussions and should the Right mount any response, the Left will punish them for it with more lawfare and unjust treatment. It seems they are willing to push the populace to the edge of something very nasty in their desire to wield power. It is always about power.
Soon they will push the populace over that edge.
VDH column addresses the Right's lack of response to the Left's abuses. The Left has a gun to our collective head. https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/03/indict-one-and-all/
VDH is a national treasure. But I hope heās wrong that Rs wonāt respond. I think itās critical that they do. We shall see.
Thank you YYR. The link is a great resource recapping all the crimes committed by former Presidents and government officials. I have already shared it widely!!
What if this is a play to get previous presidents indicted for their crimes? Tic for tac...
I wonder if any previous presidents are getting nervous right about now.
No. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama are safely planted under the Globalist Umbrella.
No prosecutor will touch them.
But theyāre very nervous about Trump rising from the ashes ten times stronger.
Then weāll see prosecutions.
I guess that might answer my question. I hadnāt even thought about that.
Of course not. They are simply terrified of Trump, they know he won't turn a blind eye to their crimes, partly why he had to lose in 2020.
I believe DT is one of them and that he's a trojan horse for the conservatives. It's all a stage.
šØ This expanding will to power takes control of institutions lock, stock, and show-trial.
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No ploy. This event is precedent setting. No escape from that.
Jeff says, "but last year, the Democrat National Committee and Hilary Clintonās campaign were both fined for charges similar to Trumpās. They had obscured reporting some payments to former British spy Christopher Steele for his third-grade-level work on a salacious dossier falsely alleging Trump colluded with Russia"
Not to mention, very likely committing numerous real felonies in that process, like colluding with foreign powers for election interference.
Yes, and they should be charged. I donāt think Trump would allow it, but DeSantis would.
Cranky today, and disheartened by all this. Was listening to Bannon's podcast last night, and heard Laura Loomer absolutely trashing DeSantis. Like how does this help conservatives here in Florida for the long haul? They are going to do more damage than Crist could ever hope to do. I voted for Trump twice, and am grateful beyond words for DeSantis' leadership the last 3 years especially. This is really taking an ugly turn. Bums me out.
I so totally agree, we need to stop talking against people on our side. And call people out when they do.
Exactly. Can we conservatives stop standing around in a circular firing squad?
I used to be a fan & saw her as a victim of the leftās ire when she was kicked off every single platform. I donāt know whatās happened but she has gone loco in her disdain for DeSantis. I just unsubscribed from her email list yesterday as all she focuses on is him.
Same here. It's like a fire hose blasting. Makes me realize maybe my sympathy for her has been somewhat misplaced.
Same.
Just like DT has been doing....going against DeSantis and calling him names like the man-child he is. If DT was a true patriot, he wouldn't be doing that. I have come to the conclusion that DT is a trojan horse and he's been playing his part on "their" stage.
So the greatest president of my lifetime continues to allow himself to be put through hell on behalf of AMERICA, so that he can later say, āFOOLED YOU. I was a DEMORAT all alongā.
Dint think so
I think you get it! š
Thx
I totally agree!!
hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
Every president has endorsers. DeSantis canāt say donāt endorse me. He wants to be President. He will do an amazing job. Look at what he has accomplished. Again the RINOs are endorsing him so he doesnāt succeed. Donāt fall for it. DeSantis is playing by his own playbook and the RINOs donāt like it at all. Ignore them.
Hell no on supporting Trump, the Deathjab pusher. Not as long as he is still pushing the bioweapon he forced on the American people.
Why was she trashing DeSantis?
Apparently DeSantis is going to single-handedly take down Social Security and Medicare, all the while doing the bidding of the global elite. Which makes no sense to me, at all. DeSantis almost singularly (at first) opposed lockdowns, vax mandates, etc. (WEF initiatives). He has called out the danger of CBDC. He has taken on "woke" ideology in our universities. He took on Disney (about as globalist as an American corporation can get honestly). DeSantis runs a state of retirees. Does anyone SERIOUSLY think he's going to destroy SS?
It's fine to support Trump over DeSantis - totally respect that. But to trash DeSantis this way? Dirty and stupid.
The NeoCon/Marxist tactic against the populist liberty movement represented by Trump and DeSantis is "divide and conquer." Anytime I see this happening, I have to assume they have been bought and paid for by the Dem Bolsheviks. They WILL find those supposedly within our ranks that they can use to cause division.
Yep, good point.
Some of us are definitely not okay with what is being done to President Trump. Outrage after outrage. Some of us remember how DeSantis would have lost to the crackhead pervert Andrew Gillum in 2018 if not for Trumpās last minute endorsement. Some of us remember how long the beaches were shut down in Florida. Some of us have watched how DeSantis joined in with the Karl Rove, Jeb and George Bush crowd in a takedown Trump effort. We noticed his disappearance and then weak response to the Mar-a-Lago raid. We see the real DeSantis, not the glowing image the media is projecting.
And we are pissed! Yes, we are pissed!
You might want to look into some of those trumpeted triumphs of DeSantis. The Disney story backfired, but you donāt know that if this is where you get all your news.
Yet you've conveniently forgotten Trump's admonishment of both Sweden for not locking down at all and Gov Kemp in Georgia for reopening "too soon"; spearheading OWS, the atrocious CARES Act and attributing 100 million lives saved to that beautiful vaccine he refuses to make any apology for.
"Some of us" are definitely not okay with any of that while also careful not to lionize DeSantis. We can all agree that what has been/is being done to Trump is beyond absurd but that shouldn't automatically earn him favor nor does it follow that he's learned lessons sufficient to make him competent for another term.
Iām sure you remember all that from those terrible days of distress and confusion. And Iām sure you saw all the truth with great clarity immediately.
President Trump was trying to navigate something no other had ever been called upon to do. He was fighting continuous attacks from the left.
I think youāre reading from ātakedown Trump talking pointsā.
Yes, of course he was - BUT SO WAS DESANTIS! That's the point. It's strange to me that people want to give all this grace to Trump but not DeSantis. Does that not seem like a double standard? Especially when DeSantis so clearly went against the narrative when it was still extremely tough to do so? He single-handedly gave cover to other governors in the US, and to other leaders in the western world.
Trump deserves no sympathy re lockdown/covid policies. Early March, the cruise ship that was infected showed a regular flu season death rate. We knew young people were not affected. The only conclusion for his policies are he is either in on it or he's a complete and total moron, either way, excludes him from being some great leader.
And, there is the Trump economy, which many simply believe was amazingly good, but when you actually look at the raw numbers, was the worse of any modern day president, shooting up the debt like a rocket ship. Read the link below:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/04/david-stockman/lock-him-out/
Well stated.
Hey I've lived in Florida for over 20 years, and have seen plenty of governors. I remember what happened here with the beaches, though when I moved back to south Florida in July of 2020, our beach (which is right across from my house) was open. And they would never been closed in the first place BUT FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND FAUCI. Does President Trump deserve grace on that? If he does, and I would argue he does to some extent, then certainly Governor DeSantis does too. And DeSantis demonstrated an amazing ability to course-correct, unlike President Trump who to this day does not admit any fault with any of the actions he took for the pandemic. I'm sickened by what is happening to President Trump, but I still want someone who can actually do the job of the executive.
Amen! I think DeSantis has done an outstanding job. I voted for Trump twice, but will vote for DeSantis. People always make excuses for Trump, like āheās gotten bad advice or heās politically naive.ā Trump also never admits to any mistake. DeSantis owns up to his mistakes and takes corrective action.
DeSantis is owned by the Globalists - he will have NO CLUE how to deal with world events, China and so on .. If you want to understand DeSantis, read Sundance at the Conservative Treehouse. You'll be grateful and learn so much.
Lol. Then Trump must be a first class globalist. Remember the summer of love and all the burning, looting and murders that happened on Trumpās watch? Didnāt happen here in Florida. Why? Because of our great governor. DeSantis even made it to where if protesters were blocking roads and threatening you, you have the right to run their sorry ass over with impunity.
Trump let Hillary & Biden slide on their crimes. DeSantis is purging the Soros bought and paid for prosecutors out of office. DeSantis served our country. Trump did not. DeSantis married for love and has a beautiful family. Trump married a trophy wife 30 years his junior and heās cheated on all of his wives.
DeSantis has done more to protect the citizens of Florida than Trump has ever done for Americans.
Trump is a scumbag globalist who appointed a long string of swamp creatures to high office.
Great points Sarahanne. Wow. Said it much better than I did lol.
DeSantis either knows how to deal with them or he put on an AMAZING act during pandemic. He threw a major wrench in the WEF gears. Was it just dumb luck? And for all Trumps savvvy, did that help him beat the people who stole our freedom and the election from him? Like Iāve said a million times, voted for Trump twice and would vote for him again but wow. How do we know he wonāt fall for the next act of the WEF? CBDC will be the new āsolutionā to the crisis the globalists have created.
DeSantis is a RINO.
The most neutral thing I can say is, Time will tell.
Let's face it. Anyone running for office is, knowingly or not, compromised to some degree. This is because the political system in the US is a Uniparty. The last Presidential candidate who was independent and threatened to expose it was assassinated by the CIA. Hello? Where are the prosecutions? There are no statue of limitations on such crimes! Why does the CIA still exist? You think subsequent Presidents did not know the truth? They were all on notice. When popularity propelled Reagan into the lead to be President, the NWO representative G. Ford met him in, I believe, Omaha. When Reagan came out of that private meeting, he dumped his cabinet team and replaced them with the Bush team, except for J. Watts and we all know how long he lasted. Reagan got the message. Let the Neocon Bush team control your administration or you'll never be able to accept the people's choice for Presidency. I knew this then as assuredly as I know it now.
Do I hold this against Reagan? No, he was the best we could get at the time. No one could articulate the principles of American liberty better than he did. Just listening to him was an education in American liberty and he connected to the American people because of this. And the Neoconservatives got everything they wanted under the cover of his rhetoric. What rankles me is that to this day the Neocons claim Reagan as their legacy when they never even understood his ideals of American liberty. Neocons are statists and have more in common with Bolsheviks than they do with the American people which goes a long way to explaining the current political order.
Interestingly, even then the Democrats were running their mouth claiming that if Reagan is elected there will be a race war. My point is this. Even on a practical level, our hope cannot be in any one man. We are part of a liberty movement, the same populist movement Reagan connected with. Our enemy is a political SYSTEM, the Uniparty, that serves a Neocon/NWO/Marxist agenda. They are now intent on destroying the American people and culture any way they can including through population dilution by uncontrolled immigration.
And they have told us why they are doing this now, ie, the Reset. They know the system is going to automatically reset because they have drained everything they can out of the American people to support their empire and this empire is on the verge of imploding. They are approaching that financial brick wall the Soviet Empire hit when they imploded. At some point, the center cannot hold. We can see all of this developing in the international scene right now as nation after nation sees "the writing on the wall" and abandons USG hegemony. Yes, this history is being written by Him. This is His-Story.
The NWO has one big problem which George Soros alluded to when he said that bringing America into the NWO is proving to be a very difficult nut to crack (or words to that effect). They have yet to subjugate the American people and consolidate their control of the US, something the Bolsheviks should have accomplished with Obama and then Hellary but - Oops - someone got in the way: DJT. So not only do they face opposition abroad but they also face the opposition of the liberty movement in America. In reality, what got in the way was the populist liberty movement. DJT was just the catalyst to allow us to focus.
We are analogous to the French resistance movement of German occupied France in WWII. We are going to face increasing attacks while at same time the NWO regime faces mounting opposition from the developing geopolitical block overseas. They must beat us to win. Those are the stakes. The NWO is going to raise a new Iron Curtain. Alex Krainer explains it best here:
"...This new iron curtain would most likely encompass the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and parts of continental Europe. But the blockās viability will depend on whether it can also include the United States which remains an extremely tough nut to crack. The uncontrolled migrations, attack on statesā rights, and the all-out assault of the Bill of Rights, including the periodic mass shootings, are all occult oligarchyās attempts to crack it. It is all part of the total global war."
We are The Nut.
Great comment. I only regret it is so detailed many will skip it. CIA killing Kennedy after he threatened them is an enormous boulder to hang over all future presidents. We all really wish Trump could have taken on the deep state, for real... sadly only collapse seems like it will have a chance.
Very very well stated. I hope everyone here will read it carefully.
Excellent points Politico Phil. And they still almost took out Reagan. Probably would have it not for the Secret Service guy who made the judgment call on where to take him after he was shot. And just look at who almost became POTUS out of that fiasco. š
DeSantis=George W. Bush
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Exactly where I net out too.
All but your last clause. Trump did a great job as Chief Executive, all while being undermined from both within and without.
PS: my kid was still in college in 2020/2021, and I credit Governor DeSantis for university covid vaccine mandates never getting off the ground in our state. Thank God. What a nightmare that has been in some states/schools.
A friend sent me this Glen Beck video segment. In it Glen states openly that in view of all the recent time events, the United States is now seen as being shed of its Superpower status. I would have to agree. Along with such things a the Great Banana Republic of 2020, the world at large is going to take this trumped up Trump persecution charge as one more indication of a fall from grace into a third world state lawlessness. And more reason not to invest in the United States.
Somehow, 'these people' never seem to be capable of calculating the impacts of their criminal rashness in extended time.
No they donāt. Everything is supposed to just jibe smoothly with their ideological fantasies. So what if it goes against the grain of western principles in place and evolving since the Magna Carta? š
Yes, ideological fantasies as in not rooted in reality = insanity which is recipe for disaster for which we in the US dominated Woke Empire are about to pay the hideous price in spades. Just wait and see. Brace and prepare.
THANK YOU for your correct use of the term "jibe" as opposed to the illiterates who say "jive."
Ha ha thanks for noticing Fred - that sort of thing is my pet peeve. It's not a 'mute' (lol) point.
I know, right? Only a 'looser'(sic) says "jive."
It's purposeful. What do you think Obama meant by "fundamentally transform?" That side can't stand our success, our wealth, our (former) virtue, our liberty, our happiness.
Fundamentally Transformed? In his book all about himself, Obama pretty much stated that he was a Marxist. So fundamentally transformed means transform from the last vestiges of the Christian principles of the old Christian American states republican in form and the Federal limited service government subordinate to the states (as in the first US Constitution 'for' and not later 'of') into a wholly Marxist secular government and/or governments.
It's bye, bye God. And hello Simon Says according to a Humpty Dumpty version of 'words mean whatever I say they mean' and according to any whimsical conceptualization of law ordering. Obama's vision of end result is ... Marxist government, a total surveillance and control society, with passports (limitation of movement), social credit scores (some already here), total control digital money (already here but about to be further formalized, institutionalized), all the fake Agenda 21/30/Green stuff ... and you will own nothing and like it.
This is a thumbnail sketch. There were plenty of other milestones along the road that got us to our present time of sorrows.
It does need to be morphed into something else. You maybe getting yours but it IS going to run out!
Agree, but I'm a Gen Xer so not there yet ha ha.
Yes!! DeSantis has walked the walk. His actions and deeds speak loudly. He is the man for now. He has integrity. Heās not a name caller or calling up porn stars. Heās a true statesmen and one we can all feel proud ofā¦.one that can be a role model for our kids. Trump most certainly is not a role model and I donāt want my kids thinking he is.
I think DeSantis has been a great governor, but when he's stepped out into national politics, I've been sorely disappointed. His backpedaling on his initial excellent response to Ukraine and then his first statement on Trump's indictment made me wonder if I could vote for him in a primary. If the Bushes, Paul Ryan, and Karl Rove are really consulting with his campaign, I want nothing to do with him. I will certainly weigh everything before I make a decision, but now he's pushing this legislation in Florida and even conservatives are upset: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fdnyuz.com%2F2023%2F04%2F03%2Fright-wing-media-splits-from-desantis-on-press-protections%2F Those of you who live in Florida should look into this and make your voices heard if you disagree with it.
I just read your link article on this new bill in Florida. It sounds like it needs work and he didnāt think it through all the way yet. Jeff would be a good person to contact for ways to fix it if itās possible. But one slightly wayward bill doesnāt make DeSantis wrong for the job. It makes him human like the rest of us. I live in Texas and DeSantis made our governor look weak and ineffective with all he accomplished over the last two years.
hell no on supporting Desantis. Not as long as heās being supported by the Bush family, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan probably Mitt Romney too. Hell no.
Hell no on supporting Trump, the Deathjab pusher. Not as long as he's continuing to support the bioweapon he forced on Americans
I always need to see proof to take anything seriously. What can you give us?
So who, Biden? Because thatās what youāre looking at. Or even better, KAMALA!!!! Itās interesting that most former Trump voters I know, who want DeSantis, would vote for Trump if heās the nominee. But itās not true in reverse, if your comment is any indication. That tells me that manipulation is happening and itās not by DeSantis. And that doesnāt even take into consideration that there are people- 2 of my siblings included - who would not vote for Trump if you held a gun to their heads. But they would consider DeSantis, and one Iām almost positive would vote for him.
Rallied and voted for Trump in 2020. Nothing on this Earth could make me vote for that sleazy globalist self-promoting conman again.
If Joe Stalin were suddenly on the ballot against Trump, I'd just sit it out.
Great comment!!
Yeah I don't follow Loomer anymore but wonder what is going on with her destruction.
Canāt stand Laura Loomer!!
Milleyā¦Austin⦠shameful. Iām sure our āGeneralsā have been promised their allotment of 36oz Porterhouse Steaks drenched in real butter for selling out the United States and the American citizens.
Afghanistan withdrawal, arming the taliban, strategic oil reserves depleted, weaponry reserves given away, DOD deployment of jabs, emasculation of active duty soldiers, destruction of recruitment, Chinese spy balloon šetc etc etc. Traitors.
that is a very serious and incriminating list you have there.
What weaponry reserves given away?
Besides the ones given to the taliban? Oh I donāt know⦠maybe we should look at a list of items sent to Ukraine gotta keep that proxy war going. Just one thought. š¤·āāļø
What did we give to The taliban?
Are you saying hawk missile systems are vital to the defense of America?
Or m113s?
Or the 31 Abrams tanks when we have 6000 in storage?
Well letās discuss thatā¦ok letās say there are 6,000 in storage just waiting to be fueled up and deployed either abroad or in country as needed. One can hope that weāve got both reserve fuel on hand now that we are no longer energy independent and the Saudiās are dealing in Yaun and lowering their production output..lets look at the depleted recruitment numbers of the humans required to participate in said deployment and the possibility of active duty members having health issues. I understand that senator Johnson is still waiting on those requested numbers. So if we do have said storage as you pointed out and we have a supply chain shortage of trained humans and the go-go juice neededā¦wellā¦? Iām saying we have need of Generals and a commander in chief who will put the defense of American citizens and America above all else. Thatās their job.
We have the fuel, easily. We have the ammunition. And most importantly we have the people.
Are recruitment numbers down? Absolutely.
We are exporting a lot of fuel, remember. A lot of Europe's LNG that used to come from Russia is now coming from the USA.
Biden doesn't care about America. He also is intentionally cutting aid to Ukraine and dragging it out vs sending what is needed. He is paying money to demilitarize DPICM versus send it to Ukraine for demilitarization for free.
Yeah, right. Unbelievable response.
Years ago some guy ran up and smacked Bill Gates in the face wirh a pie. LESLIE Stahl Needed one after that eyeroll....but instead of pie, the tin needs to be full of something more appropriate for liberals....I thought of this comment while cleaning my horse's stall...
Marjorie Taylor Greene is correct!
On the spy balloon, as it was collecting intel, the democrat socialist administration in the Whitehouse told us that it was not collecting intel. Now, the American hating leftists tell us the intel that was collected had "limited additive value".
This reminds me of "safe and effective".
I think the Biden regime has already given the Chinese all the information they need, so by definition anything they might have gotten from the balloon would have limited added value.
About Liz Cheney's chances of winning a Repub. primary - don't think a "thick branch" is necessary.
She goin' nowhere.
Well they canāt have Trump or DeSantis at the helm. So it seems fitting they will get behind Cheney and prop her up the same way they did biden. Basement rallies with 6 people watching. Tons of media to give the appearance people are there. Lots and lots of lies and cover ups. Then cheat and have her āwinā ehem⦠selected so they can claim a R āwonā so all this talk of cheating is non-sense. Wash, rinse, repeat.
We underestimate the depths of hell they will descend into and the amount of evil they will perpetrate on us (to include but not limited toā¦.) cheat, lie, murder, set up, frame, imprison, and steal to obtain the power their greed and lust desire.
Exactly.
DeSantis is the "acceptable" R chosen by Wall St.
I actually would possibly disagree with that. I think what fueled them is to use him to get us infightingā¦and it worked like a charm! The conservatives are now infighting over this issue. The enemy strives to cause chaos and deception and it works on us every time. Itās why we are always behind the 8 ball.
Sooooo, Iām trying to think like a criminal DS demon - which is hard to do - and realize they wouldnāt come out and support anyone who isnāt pushing their agenda. So what better way to muddy the water, then prop up the most despised rino - and guarantee a āwinā with lots of cheating. It makes sense! Iām not claiming to know this. I can just see their tactics and project based on that. Maybe Iām wrong. š¤·āāļø
What if they support a liar who claims to be MAGA in order to get votes, yet will totally be compliant with the DS if elected?
You know, several here keep repeating the same thing - Desantis is a RINO. It's like a mantra. I'm not sure who you are convincing. Stop with the mantra and offer whatever proof you have for examination. I get the same kind of mantras from the neocons and it is tiring. Put up and shut up.
It doesn't help. At this point, the populist liberty movement is represented by Trump and DeSantis. I'm suspicious of any dogmatic attacks because this is exactly what the Bolsheviks are trying to foment in our movement. Furthermore, the Bolsheviks are going to control the election results ONCE AGAIN and they will win the election. That's when the real battle begins. They want us divided so we can't fight.
We have to close ranks, hold our leaders' feet to the fire and take the battle to the enemy in a frontal assault. Their weakness is their hubris. They don't believe we can fight.
Well of course I wouldnāt support that and am watching that. Iām very aware of the landscape. It was just a possible theory regarding Cheney getting propped up. Thatās all.
Yes. But the polls show the peopleās choice.
YOU have a devious mind š
š We are always 10 steps behind. We have to be able to TRY and think like criminals even though it doesnāt come naturally to us, so we can see them coming. š
Truer words, Sunnyd, truer words....šÆ
I've seen so much insanity, i.e. Biden, Fetterman, for more read past c&c, that I would NEVER stick my neck out on ANY BET! I'm surprised at you @Jeff Childers!
She is truly insufferable. Let's look into the Cheney family finances and see what we can turn up. Nauseating.
She is the RINO Queen
East Palestine - Local Cleveland News
Last night on local news, East Palestine woman being interviewed said she was recently tested and shared her urine has vinyl chloride and benzene in it.
Believe this was CBS, channel 19 news.
Those CDC babies "felt ill" after only one day of house to house surveys? These poor people in E Palestine LIVE IN IT!
Heartbreaking!
If anyone believes the Republicans will play tit for tat and start doing anything more than āinvestigatingā every heinous thing done by Democrats, Iāve got a bridge I want to sell you.
This is first and foremost a distraction mechanism. Anyone talking about the Restrict Act before Congress? Or China infiltrating everywhere? They donāt need any stinkinā balloons, ask anyone in Michigan about two huge battery plants being planned under the table, one with outright ties to the CCP, incentivized by our state tax dollars. But the real reason nothing will be done on the other hand, is they are sending a message, āwe now own this country. We will crush you if you step out of lineā.
Trump is just playing the chess game.
Off topic, but I had a thought this morning... A couple of years ago, a new charter school, called The Magic City Academy, opened in B'ham, AL where I live. The school is exclusively for LGBTQ and their "allies". Based on how gays were treated when I was in HS in the 90s, I didn't see why LGBTQ needed their own 'safe space' but they wanted one and built a new school with state & federal funding. It took me 2 years to realize why the school was really created in the first place. It seems obvious that parents from the rich, influential suburbs helped get this school created as a way to get LGBTQ students OUT of their school. It worked and it's a win-win.
Mmmm...something to think about...put them back in the closet without any awareness on their part! Hehe!
Hahaha š
Now that is a strategy: build their own place and make them feel special when in fact it's only a ploy to get them away from those who don't want the rhetoric. I wonder if any of the students in attendance or parents of those students see it?
It works on everyone. š
A true "win/win"!!
It sure as heck SOUNDS like " adding genes to a virus to make it more deadly " would be pretty near to that virus "gaining function", that "function" being tremendously increased lethality.
WHAT do you call that?
Call me baffled.
Remember first off they think weāre stupidā¦and/ or not paying attention while they live to insult our intelligence by switching up words and definitions. More importantly always reloading the fear mongering and purposeful confusion. A constant state of anxiety is a tough place for any person, state, or country to be in. I often wonder how many of the evil power mongers are even human. Maybe theyāre a genetically altered type of conservative Christian eating lizards.
Not yet - but they b working on it. AI on the way!
Forget the 6 month moratorium, Elon - a great idea, but....
Just like the 3 year moratorium on Gain of Function research imposed in 2014 by Obama - look how THAT worked out.
Iām not going to hold my breath waiting for the Demonrats to be prosecuted. Chuck Schumerās proclamation about the Intelligence Agenciesā āFive Ways to Sundayā attacks was not just bloviating. Alvin Bragg is acting under an umbrella shield.
We no longer have a free nation. We no longer have Rule of Law. Why pretend?
Justice is coming Willing Spirit. See my comment regarding President Trump still in control. The swamp is getting drained and the deep state is destroyed just as he said it would.
Justice is not coming. To think that Republican state prosecutors will use the Bragg precedent to investigate Democrat politicians is naĆÆve.
Landry of Louisiana and Paxton of Texas are currently doing it, going after the Xiden family. They probably both have larger political aspirations (Landry is running for gov) and the oil business probably gives them a way in.
I hope you are so right about that! But Iām not holding my breath. Maybe someday weāll know how many political murders have occurred in this nation.
I agree with your pessimism.
I don't know about you all, but I'm completely burned out on our do-nothing GOP who sit back and watch our country burn and have all this open up to them regarding going after government criminals, REAL government criminals. Not some petty minor misdemeanor offenses, that are allegedly tied to Trump. Wake up!!!
Don't worry. Our GOP heroes are thinking about maybe writing a strong letter.
Hope it doesn't come to that.