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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

ā€œYou are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men. You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.ā€ —Jesus, in Matthew 5:13-16

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Freebird's avatar

I just quoted that verse to someone the other day in regard to speaking truths that are politically incorrect. And if we do that we will be persecuted for it. They’ll say we’re being judgmental, lying hypocrites…NO, we must speak the truth. God’s word is explicitly clear on the subject of creation. Male and Female, He created…anyone who is confused about that is mentally ill and should be treated as such.

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Raptor's avatar

I had a salt and light conversation with my husband when I thought I would be able to speak at a city council mtg about a scheduled drag show. I reminded him we might get doxed, have our house damaged etc. It is sobering, but we must stand against evil and for good and proclaim God and denounce Satan and his work. Someone said in the meeting that the council members who allow this would bear the millstone around their neck. Many in the audience including me yelled out AMEN!

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Freebird's avatar

It takes courage- good for you! They are vastly outnumbered, but they’re also louder and meaner. All of us need to start showing up and speaking up, just like you did!

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Raptor's avatar

One young woman spoke at the meeting. she said last year when the trans group put on a drag show in the park she and a group of Christians showed up there and held prayer. Well that went over well. They found out who she was, doxed her, went to her house and scared her, stalked her IRL and on social media saying terrible things about her and had porn sent to her home. Yet, she got up and bravely spoke this year. Very moving.

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Freebird's avatar

God Bless and protect all of the brave souls who are standing up!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

ā€œGod swordā€ and ā€œGod’s wordā€. šŸ‘ŒšŸ»

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Freebird's avatar

That was a typo Janice, but you made it work anyway! ā¤ļø

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I thought it was a pretty cool typo!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I always write it that way. It's no typo. šŸ¤—ā™„ļø

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I had to put it on my Facebook page.

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Raptor's avatar

Lisa CA thought you should consider a Stack of your own where people (especially CnC'ers) can talk God, His word, etc. If you start one, announce it. I will follow. I don't do Facebook. I am always energized by the verses you choose.

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Raptor's avatar

I just DUH noticed you have a stack! My eyes. Sheesh. I will go have a look.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Ha ha! Glad you found it. Thank you. Incidentally, I was off facebook for almost two years then felt God wanted me get back on there to try to shine some light. Funny thing though, I had deleted it all, my personal page and two public pages, then when I tried to start over, it brought all my pages back. Never really deleted!

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Raptor's avatar

Isn't that interesting about the non delete. I deleted a blog on (google - gulp). And when they said no retrieving it they meant it (except quite a bit of it captured on the way back machine. I assume they still have it. I deleted my blog after someone who read my blog found where I lived and showed up on my doorstep. Not cool. I never disclosed my town and used a pseudonym so she did some sleuthing.

Anyway I think you have to go where the unsaved are and if you are going there, you will reach them. May the Lord bless your endeavors to be the Salt and the Light!

A note: Keep a copy of what you write. One day they may delete your account. They deleted then reinstated mine, but it took some doing. It was utterly uncontroversial, but apparently someone didn't like me. Maybe I mentioned God in passing. (I wasn't a Christian then).

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Now that really upsets me--I "deleted" my Facepoop page as well--2 years ago. When I try to "view" others' pages...it does not allow me to move about--I can "land", but if I cursor anything than the "sign in" page appears and asks me to set up an account. Did that not happen to you, Janice?

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Lyndsay's avatar

Yes, this confusion needs to be called what it is: mental illness

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

"I'm old enough to remember when psychotic behavior was treated, not applauded." --Me

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Mrs.Nomero's avatar

Is it just mental illness or something more sinister? Why is it so prevalent all of a sudden, with western countries and major corporations pushing this agenda?

After reading Jonathan Cahn's book The Return of the God's, I feel this is than just mental illness. Thus is a spiritual war and "they" are targeting the children. Part of the demonic transhumanism agenda.

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Copernicus's avatar

I read Naomi Wolf's Substack titled Return of the Gods, about this book, I believe. Stunning, and rings true, actually. Makes a whole lot of sense. Those pagan gods of sex and debauchery never went away - they just were, well, quiet amd awaiting an invitation to return. We have left the true God, and he is allowing us to experience the rule of other gods and evil spirits.

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Pam's avatar

This explanation from the Gays Against Grooming confirms what you are saying. https://twitter.com/gag_illinois/status/1645091702007267329?s=61&t=e_kQXjN0XV-ohh_U2PFEVg

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Lyndsay's avatar

I would agree with that too!

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Gaye's avatar

James Lindsey calls it what it is: a cult complete with initiations. Gnosticism and Hermeticism. Long but a distillation of several authors’ work it would take much longer to read. https://youtu.be/0K3ZkrCyIeI

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AngelaK's avatar

It was mental illness until fairly recently! But I suppose because much of it (cross dressing) falls into sexual fetish, makes it ok. The new American pagan idol god 'sex', the god of all things sexually immoral or perverted must be worshipped!šŸ˜”šŸ™„

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Kim D's avatar

The perversion has been building for some time and has escalated to such a degree that there is no hiding it any longer. The group of people we call the Deep State, who are aligned with Satan and Lucifer, ( two beings intent on the demise of humanity) are doing every ugly sick act possible to keep humanity from their evolutionary ascent. We will prevail by taking responsiblity for our actions and living with Christ in our hearts.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Well, I don’t think it is mental illness. I think it is plain sin. I think God has given them over to their debased minds. But the ā€œPCā€ thing to say would be mental illness. I also think many of them have demons telling them what they are (not) and how they should act and dress.

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Freebird's avatar

You may be right Lisa, the Bible describes it like this…

ā€œTherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.ā€

‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭24‬-‭27‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Using the term mental illness is borderline PC but I think may be justified in this case because it’s not as likely to cause a shutdown of the conversation, like the word SIN. They really can’t handle that much truth. But I totally agree that we often fail in not naming sin for what it is.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

ā€œAnd since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.ā€

‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:28, 32‬ ‭ESV‬‬

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yes and I understand your point also. But - speaking for self - it often is fear of calling it out to not say sin. I love just giving them the Bible and saying ā€œhereā€ā€¦!

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Freebird's avatar

Yes, God’s word is clear on this issue and I’m glad it is! I like the Old Testament verse which calls it an abomination - no ambiguity there!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

There was a very influential poster on MeWe.com when I wa son that platform afater leaving Facepoop--and she clearly stated that sexual deviants--for the most part--are "demon controlled" and need to be "exorcised". I thought that was pretty flagrant--but now, that I'm ruminating on it....it's SPOT ON!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I think only the Roman Catholic Church has been willing to continue to accept the reality of demons? I never ever heard any minister in Protestant churches allowing such existence. I think for Protestants it went out with the Enlightenment?

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tjsplace's avatar

My non-denominational Charismatic church acknowledges the demonic. Some years ago, a churchgoer was delivered via prayer during the service.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Our church does. Nondenominational. But they do not mess with demons or perform ā€œexorcismsā€. But they acknowledge unbelievers can be possessed short term or long term.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I have been in the Protestant version of Christianity my entire life and I never knew of any of the churches I attended that avowed to "exorcism". Jesus gave the power to CAST OUT DEMONS to the original disciples...so I am wondering why the churches in existence now have "disbelieved" this doctrine?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Our church does not. Believe in existence but not exorcism.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Except for when I was in elementary school (and before) I have been a part of non-denominational/evangelical churches and none of the pastors ever approached "exorcism"...I am wondering when the Lord Jesus Christ stopped empowering His church from the ability to "cast out demons"? Was it during the Reformation period--or is is it because we are in the "laodicean" church era - lukewarm and neither "hot nor cold"?

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Sharon's avatar

Just 2 weeks ago we had a Protestant pastor friend try and exorcise a demon from a young woman - they are a small congregation so it’s probably more acceptable there.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

What happened, Sharon (love your name--LOL!)

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Sharon's avatar

Little slow in my response, they believe the woman is ok now but the pastor wants to learn more about dealing with things like this.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Well at least this pastor is compassionate and ethical enough to consider exploring the possibility. Demons are around us constantly--as are angels!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Again--my suspicion is 'the Enlightenment". Ironic, if so.

SIL, Anglican (UK) priest went through our house top to bottom maybe 18 years ago to cleanse it.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I am not familiar with "the Enlightenment" period of history - is this akin to when the Reformation burgeoned?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Roughly, the second half of 18th Century--so many 'big' thinkers--Voltaire, Rousseau, Jefferson, Franklin--who if I am not mistaken, moved to deism

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Ah yes...thank you for refreshing my brain on this important period of human history. I doubt any of these "great thinkers" stuck to their spiritual "bent" while on their death beds. It is a fearful thing to encounter the LIVING GOD....and refusing His "love gift", the Lord Jesus Christ is a ticket to the fiery pit!! That's my belief and it is fully documented in Scripture.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

In full agreement. Besides (had to read Rousseau in freshman college French)--Rousseau the great philosopher begat a number of children on woman/women(?) and chucked them into orphanages. That's how much he cared about people

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AngelaK's avatar

Evangelicals? Also the Orthodox churches maintain the ages old belief in possession, oppression, and prayers of deliverance from evil and exorcism.

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Victoria's avatar

In American, the churches are 503c, so are basically tied to the government because of taxes. You need to read the Bible, especially Genesis 6. That will help you to see that there is a big gap in church teaching now which was not there before. It makes all the difference. If the churches leave out who/what the nephilim are, it is like pretending there was only the South in the civil war. All this ancient knowledge was accepted and almost "ho-hum" in the Middle Ages. There has been a big change since then. Think about why Gothic churches look that way and why the churches which are built now just look like warehouses. It is more than money.

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mary's avatar

I listened to a very interesting podcast by Eric Metaxas interviewing James Kearny, a PCA Presbyterian pastor in Seattle who has a deliverance ministry. In these last days, I think the demonic will become more obvious and deliverance will be more accepted by evangelicals.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I appreciate Eric Metaxas--haven't listened to him for a (too) long time--thanks for reminder

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LMWC's avatar

May WE become lights to the world!

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Elaine Elias's avatar

Wonderful scripture. If only people would care

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Befferz's avatar

God wants me to be salty? Roger roger!

Jk, great verse as usual Janice!

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Jenna Pierce's avatar

I had a tshirt once that said "Be salt and light, not salty and lit." 🤣

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Haha! ā€œLitā€ — one of those words I had to ask my older girls when they were teens what in the world that meant… šŸ˜…

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Do tell. Please.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I think kind of like ā€œcool.ā€ But cooler. šŸ˜‚

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Lord...may we who claim YOUR HOLY NAME be continually SALT and LIGHT in this wounded and dark world!! Even as your Word commands us to be - AMEN!

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JW's avatar

Salt is still used as currency among the nomads in Ethiopia's Danakil Plains. Might have to start saving old Leslie for a rainy day. Roman legionnaires were paid in salt hence the word salarium, the Latin origin of the word "salary".

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I think you meant salarium not solarium?

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JW's avatar

Thanks. Big fingers syndrome.

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Tracy's avatar

My husband has that syndrome. šŸ˜†

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Hah hah!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Thank you, Janice. You answered my question. (ā€œBefore they call, I will answerā€?) We ARE fighting back, and our strategy is being salt and light. ā€œGreater is He than he who is in the world.ā€

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Mum’s The Word's avatar

Jeff, my family just finished watching Chris Hemsworth’s new series called Limitless. In it, he’s exploring how to live longer. He takes the genetic testing as part of that series. Anyway, after watching it, it makes sense to me that he would retire. You can see him coming to the conclusion that he has enough money and enough experience to not put those ahead of his family and enjoying time with them. He could have vax related issues but certainly in this series you can see the progression of why he would choose to retire.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Instead of trying to live longer we should make the most of the life we've got. I don't understand the obsession (especially rich) people have with longevity and even immortality. $cience is spending billions on it.

And as for these so called tests - after the pcr debacle I wouldn't trust any of them, including genealogy. And the gene ones are only indicators not predictors and probably vastly over-hyped; you could mope around waiting to die for years - and then get hit by a bus.

Something gets us all in the end - why be so self obsessed that you stop living your best life because of something that may or may not happen some time in the future...

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Barnjai's avatar

I think the desire to live longer is the result of a lack of faith in God, actually, no faith in God. If this life on earth is all there is you must live this life as long as possible.

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Raptor's avatar

So true. During COVID madness when people would ask me why I was not freaking out (I was concerned) I would say that I am invincible until God decides otherwise! People would get visibly mad.

A side note: 99% of the ppl that I know who didn't get the jab were Christians. No wonder they want us gone.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My take: the desire to prolong life is a FEAR of God, a fear that there may actually be an afterlife where you will be held responsible for how you lived. I don't imagine the life-prolongers actually/actively think about this, but it may be a tickle in the back of their subconscious.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Agreed. ā€œThey show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.ā€ Romans 2:15

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Ooh nice. My absolute fave book, but never saw that meaning. Thanks for providing.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Our Easter sermon was on this. We all fear death. And thus try to push it out as long as. possible. But yes for sure especially without a faith in God.

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Barnjai's avatar

Do you have a link to that sermon?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

More than happy to share! Our pastor is amazing. I just emailed his wife to thank her for all she does to support him and make him even better. https://youtu.be/tX-Is29TBYM

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Barnjai's avatar

That was really a good message. Thank you.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

YES! It was one of the best Easter sermons I’ve heard!šŸ’•

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Barnjai's avatar

I also listened to the next one. 😁

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Barnjai's avatar

Thank you! I will listen to it this evening.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

If that’s not the right one let me know. It might be another recent one. It was in the intro!

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

I read a book once about a world where everyone was immortal. In the end they all committed suicide because life had no meaning or value.

(I wish I could remember the title and who wrote it. Anyone, please?)

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Barnjai's avatar

I'd also like to know the title of that book. The older I get the more I look forward to heaven. So many people I love are there.

"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.ā€ Revelation 21:4

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M VARR's avatar

Zardoz is a film about immortality and people wanting to die.

Sean Connery starred in it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Lazarus Long by Robert Heinlein?

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daverkb's avatar

Well said! And so good to hear!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

ā€œFor to me, to live is Christ and to die is gainā€ Philippians 1:21. I plan on going somewhere far better than this planet, fun and interesting as it is.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Think about it, though. The mega-rich are very accustomed to being able to buy anything they want. Then they decide they want ā€œto buyā€ longevity, which is not available for purchase. Add that to a possibly Godless mindset, ie, ā€œI can do anything I want; everything depends on me,ā€ and you can see why they become obsessed.

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daverkb's avatar

This resonates. It's the way I've seen it, especially with the idle rich where the self-indulgence is over the top. To see it is to know that such a life is vapid ... and indeed, actually pathetic. And yes, such people tend to be secularly obsessive.

Looking back at things from my mid-seventies, the joys in life seem very much connected to cycling through various age brackets. Like ... one's forty-ish years are very unlike one's twenties or thirties and so on. It well may turn out that 'living forever' would turn out to be a rather absurdly arid non-adventure. This is my suspicion.

And "Godless mindset"? That just may be a good summing of it. A lot of the problem in our time centers in the Will to Power to be a god-Man. Santa Klaus Satan at the WEF is arch-typical of this kind of obsessive absurdity. This by historical example never works out well.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!

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CaplT's avatar

Obsessed and ruthless.

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Chevrus's avatar

I tend to agree. My wife cited some article that was singing the praises of stem cells and various other "promissory therapeutics" that would cure cancer and extend the life span.

"Now the challenge is to make it all affordable"

I just smiled and nodded. The amount of fallacy to unpack in that alone was far too much for me. Plus I would just get shut down....

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

Utterly ironic! So much illness and early death is caused by poor diet and lifestyle. If only people took personal responsibility and looked after themselves. That would see a huge improvement.

And then of course there is poverty which kills millions of children who never even get a chance.

Meanwhile the $cientists promise the ultimate prize if we just keep funding their research for a little longer. What's the expression about a fool and his money?

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Jeff Gordon does a radio commercial. "The only cure for children's cancer is research". Like, WTH?? Really? Just pump some MORE money into it and we'll finally find "the cure". Problem is, there's already several cancer cures that have been completely suppressed.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

They've been using the same playbook for years. In UK the richest charities are the main cancer ones.They have $quillions and are always after more. Another top one is RNLI lifeboats and The British Legion (supports Veterans) whose boss earns £130,000 a year...

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Money laundering...

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Soon parted for sure.

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LMWC's avatar

A world without God. For those, this life is all there is….

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Someone recently said (on a stack)--for those without Christ, this world is heaven. For those with Christ, this world is hell.

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Raptor's avatar

Some living the most healthy life and living a long life practices are the same. I know God will take me when He decides to, but in the meantime - especially since COVID and a few other things, I have seriously concentrated on tightening up my fitness and what I put in and do to my body. And by fitness I mean doing different forms of exercise etc and paying attention to fitness markers and feeling well (instead of always nursing nagging injuries). Quitting work (for Hemsworth) is probably the best thing he could do for himself and his family. The only problem with quitting work when young (esp men I think) is you are in danger of loss of identity. You must guard against that. If you can manage it healthily (mentally) it is a great life.

It took me until 50 to smarten up about my body and life. I am a slow learner.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Indeed--why fear death, which is what brings us finally together with God? That would be totally irrational. But should I not thank God for each day he gives me by using that day, and my body, in ways that best serve Him? Therefore, I need to keep strong and healthy and practice stewardship over the land and material things He has given me.

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Raptor's avatar

Yes indeed and I am glad you replied with that. I pray almost every day for health, good stewardship for the things he so graciously trusts me with. I found you can pray with thanks for good health even when something serious is taking a dive. At least the other things are holding! Haha. I have had a health problem I have been dealing with - I have just reconciled that it is my thorn in my side and works to keep me in check. Hope I can do without it soon : ))

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That's the way I'm thinking now as well (about life vs death). Of course, I'm at the end of my life road anyway at 76 (still have good health which I cherish and guard fiercely). It's all in Yahweh's omnipotent hands.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

I'll give Hemsworth six months before he's back (with a $$ film offer he couldn't refuse - apparently everyone has their price: mine is very low).

Anyways, his wife will have sent him back to work to get him out of the house, and out from under her feet!

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Raptor's avatar

He may find a compromise. Working on projects in Australia, near his home or voicework or some other new venture. It doesn't have to mean quitting work all together. We also don't know what he has seen in his own family. If you see someone in your family fall into insanity, you have a different perspective.

My husband and I quite work 18 years ago. He stayed on for an extra two years and I traveled with him for his work. Then we were done. Not rich, but we are frugal. So far so good. When I left they offered me a raise to stay. No. when my husband left, they offered him money, ability to work from home, a better position and then finally threatened him. The only time we looked back is 2007/8. But it turned out OK - thank God. But we didn't go back because life was slipping away, we never saw one another and wanted something more and less stress. Stress was killing my husband. So, you see, if you can reach and recognize that you have reached a place where you can safely live on what you have and can manage the transition and have a loose plan for your longgg retirement and don't get greedy... ififif, people can and will do it and be happy.

I'll add that any time I get a notion (and I do) that if we worked to even 50 we could have been sitting on a Nordhavn 68, just the two of us out in the middle of nowhere (because that certainly would have been plan B) instead of... I thank God for the wisdom he gave us to know what was best in our lives. He guided us before we asked. A miracle. He has a plan. Eventually we got there. Wish it were sooner.

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Cornwall Marc's avatar

What a lovely reply. Thank you for sharing. I think we have very similar values: worldly frugal, but so rich in what really matters. I finished at 57 when my employer expected me to relocate offices and do two jobs for the same pay. I refused and walked away. They couldn't believe that I would do it - but I won!

PS Maybe Hemsworth could guest on Home & Away?

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Raptor's avatar

Thank you. What nerve your employer had! especially in this day when fewer are willing to work! That had to be satisfying. I enjoy imagining their surprise and probably their own wish to do the same. Haha.

I don't know Home and Away, but who knows what path that family will take. I hope it is a good one! I hope yours is too! Many blessings to you and your family Marc.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!

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JSR's avatar

šŸ™ŒšŸ™Œ

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CaplT's avatar

Maybe because they don’t like where they think they are headed after death and want to forestall it as long as possible, hurting as many people in their way on their way, as they think is needed.

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Mary H.'s avatar

I have watched part of the series. It definitely pushed him beyond his comfort zone and I can see how it was a wake up call to priorities.

I have a friend who passed recently from sudden onset Alzheimer’s. I think there is definitely a link caused by the vax .

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Sudden onset Alzheimer's? That's weird number one. Weird number two: to die from it?

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Mary H.'s avatar

Scary huh? She was only in her early 60’s . So sad.

Do you remember when Joe Biden made a remark in 2021 about hospitals soon filling up with Alzheimer’s patients ? Do you think he knew something and let it slip ?

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Annie's avatar

It's the vaxx. Chris Hemsworth is Australian and they are shot up. Sads what has happened in Australia. He got the jab to be in Limitless.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Neurological effects of the shot are very common disabling people of all ages. My son is national director of specialty therapies for a company that supplies IVIG products to people for these problems. It's a national tragedy that gets no visibility in the press.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Such irony.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Well what Jeff said was that its a genetic predisposition, not a diagnosis? But as I understand it all of Hollywood is shot up too.

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Ron Carter's avatar

šŸ˜–

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Garden Lover's avatar

Just after the jabs were available, there was an older woman (about 70) in our local Costco who was found wandering around, confused, and not knowing where or who she was. The rumor was she got jabbed and had been fine until that point. So the jabs? Certainly possible.

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NAB's avatar

I think we are really just starting to witness the neuro-psychiatric effects of these poison jabs. LORD help us - forgive us our hubris.

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OJen's avatar

My mother in law, in her 70s, was just diagnosed with dementia (they think maybe Lewey Body, but that's just a clinical guess). She was healthy, strong, and sharp as a tack before the jabs. She is now a confused and withered shell of her former self, not knowing who we are half the time, seeing things that aren't there, unable to understand or follow directions. I am convinced it's related to the shots, and it seemed to happen pretty fast.

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I’m so sorry. This is incredibly hard to watch happen to a loved one. Light to you and your family. ā¤ļø

My mother-in-law had Parkinson’s/dementia. She was a lovely person, and it was just heartbreaking. I firmly believe it came about as a result of her having her gallbladder removed. She’d already had issues with digestion as a result of radiation. I think the gallbladder was the final straw. 😢 After that, she went downhill quickly.

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Natalie's avatar

That's crushing to hear. I'm so sorry your family is going through this.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My gosh. I am soon approaching 73 and do not see myself as 'older'--just middle aged.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

*chuckling

First, not far behind you and when I don’t think in numbers feel the same.

But, into the numbers, if 70 is ā€œmiddle agedā€ then a lifespan is somewhere in the neighborhood of 135-140 years.

Honestly, I don’t want to live that long. Even with fantastic health and all my marbles.

Just silly ol’ me. More power to your 140 years long trip!

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Garden Lover's avatar

I get it. I’m in my mid-50s. Sixty no longer seems that old, nor does 70 really, but we’re getting there.

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NAB's avatar

I said the following in a separate comment, but I was listening to the doctor involved in discussing the genetic testing with Hemsworth. Apparently Hemsworth drew terrible genetic cards and has two E4 genes a finding which is highly correlated with Alzheimer's disease. Add into the mix and experimental shot and the unknown effects from it, and all bets are off. It would be really hard to carry his burden.

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Annie's avatar

Yeah. His genetics and now finding out about the vaxx side effects is what has Chris Hemsworth changing his tune.

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Jkelly's avatar

He also talked about watching his grandfather go through Alzheimers. I agree after watching the series his decision makes sense.

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Annie's avatar

Called brain fog. Several clients went from fine to dementia, memory loss/brain fog and alzheimers in the last year. Came on so fast. All were vaxxed.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Way to go Texas in leading the way, now all we need to do is eliminate the sprayed up skies and receive our God-given Gold of a Sun! https://romanshapoval.substack.com/p/how-to-treat-emf-radiation-part-1

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Al X G's avatar

Yes Yes Texas - gold backed currency - but NOT DIGITAL!!

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Diana Prince šŸ¦øā€ā™€ļø's avatar

Goldbacks are not digital. Made of 24k gold, shaped like dollar bills, easy to put in your wallet and ready to pull out and buy some eggs from the lady down the street when the shit goes down.

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Diana Prince šŸ¦øā€ā™€ļø's avatar

Four states already use them as legal tender. Look it up, goldbacks.

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Sharon's avatar

That’s where I am putting any extra money and gave as gifts for Christmas!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You are speaking of the valaurum?

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Lisa Liberty's avatar

Interesting article. WEF wanting to dim the sun, maybe now we know the real reason.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank you Lisa! Yes- they want a monopoly on sick-care. I believe this is the "last barrier" we need to get through as a civilization to bring on the golden age - dissolve the opaqueness of fear that are those "clouds." Thanks for taking a look and for your time reading my piece!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yes, when you look at every single action our current rulers take, every one of them is designed to damage or destroy the well-being of humanity - every single one.

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SA's avatar

There’s a telegram group RE: cloud seeding. They are collecting rain water post seeding events and having it tested.

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Peace's avatar

Thanks for your post! Does it do as much good to simply be outside in the early morning sun, or do we lose a lot of the benefit if we don't look towards it? My view of the morning sun is partially blocked by mountains in the middle of my view and a dang street light to the left and to the right!. I'm looking forward to rummaging around in your stack some more:)

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Peace, there is a ton of benefit in being outside even if you can't see the light directly. Our skin has photoreceptors which can pick up on infrared light. However I do like to look up at the sky if I can't see the sun, as that light refracts high in the sky as well. If you can, grounding with bare feet at that time of day is also beneficial as the resonant frequency of the Earth is more in tune with our bodies, however this depends where you live. If you can get out b/w 9am-11am you'll get a lot of the melatonin benefit, and you'll be able to see the sun by that time. Later on in the day there are different hormonal benefits.

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Peace's avatar

Thank you! As a note, I think your stack mentioned 11 pm vs. 11 am?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA was denying medical care to veterans not wearing a mask.

VA would not allow veterans to sit next to each other because every other chair was blocked off.

VA had Plexiglas up and it was too hard to understand the clerks because of sound dampening from the Plexiglas.

Will this stupidity and insanity stop now?

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Had a loved one recently do an intake appointment with the VA, the MOST important topic, what took the bulk of the time was ALL about immunizations and how important they are.... Cancer and current immediate needs, nah, those can be dealt with later, but first get your jabs!!!

How else would they be able to make sure you are always ill and completely dependent on them for care - and of course then they CONTROL you.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Sorry. It's just the way science works. It's kinda weird.

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Dr Linda's avatar

They love to cram the concept of ā€œevidence basedā€ down everyone’s throats. I am excited to talk to them about ā€œevidence basedā€ regarding the safe and effective shots.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly. When my son, a doctor of pharmacology, was mandated by his employer to get the shot, he crammed the "evidence" right back at them and dared them to fire him. They surrendered.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Yeah for your son! I bet he encouraged others to at least think carefully about it.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup. He manages a team here in FL in his department and at least half of them followed his lead and did the same thing using the new law DeSantis got passed that imposed fines on companies that mandate the shot. Corp legal didn't want anything to do with that.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Bear in mind, he is a young man with a wife, a mortgage and three babies and an outstanding career. But, like he told his VP boss, he looked at the science and it didn't make sense and there was no way he or his family would take the shot.

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OJen's avatar

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

That is brave and bold and extremely noble. šŸ™

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Politico Phil's avatar

Actually, he was just mad as hell.

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Shelle's avatar

Really encouraging to hear a story like that!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"Speed of science" turned out to be pretty slow.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

How do so many seem capable of enduring such humiliation? How do so many seem willing to mete it out -- among our fellow "Americans?"

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Dr Linda's avatar

I doubt it. We have commented on this tomfoolery before. I have an appointment on Thursday. We’ll see

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Let us know.

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Jean V's avatar

My husband has an appointment at a military hospital today. Apparently, the mask policy is only if you have symptoms.

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MayBella82's avatar

The mask policy was removed last Monday. I had an appointment on Tuesday and was surprised because I had been there the week prior and their signs everywhere with masks at the door if you forgot your own. I have a VA appt today. Will be interesting to see if they still have theirs intact or not.

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MayBella82's avatar

At the VA waiting to see PCM... still have to wear mask.

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LMWC's avatar

I was wondering the same thing. Will the VA now stop with the idiotic masks?

Michigan has it’s own state of emergency based on a 1918 health dept. statute. Wonder if that will go away now?

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Julia C's avatar

Seriously. It’s not VA related but, I’m still fighting with hospital administration to get a mask exemption and it’s been almost three years since my mask injury now. I had an exacerbation of my POTS and ended up with a brain injury and vocal cord dysfunction. This conversation I’ve been at them nonstop to get completely unmasked ever since January and we still haven’t resolved this because of all their delays and posturing. Even after I spoke with an ADA advocate, they are still not relenting yet. Their cognitive dissonance to the truth about masking and what their obligations are under ADA law and ā€œ do no harmā€ have been quite staggering.

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ROKM's avatar

One hospital where I live has made masking voluntary, but the others have not. I was in a clinic yesterday and they are hanging on. They didn't know the emergency was ended

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Absolutely we should all frame it along with "15 days to slow the spread". #neverforget

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

15 days turned into 3 years of house arrest.

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Chevrus's avatar

3 years to fatten the curve!!

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That was one heck of a curve!

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Chevrus's avatar

But hey, they managed to condition the masses, further degrade the middle class and keep the infighting red hot! What's NOT to like?!

SPARS 2025-2028 HERE. WE. COME>>>>>>

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The "fun" is not over by a long shot.

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Chevrus's avatar

Hey look the Globe ain't gonna Reset itself!!

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Dick's avatar

…to flatten the FAKE curve — contrived by Imperial college criminals, which we bought for about 15 days…

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Chevrus's avatar

Are you calling my curves fake?!

#HowDareYou?!

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Dick's avatar

No more than my own! ;))

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Oh very nice!

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

More like 15 days until you’re dead. :(

My husband out of pure fear and anxiety took a j&j jab way back in the beginning. Began to have extreme stiffness and arthritis type pain about a month later. Asked his internist if it could be jab related and doc said ā€œ no you’re beyond the two week window for side effectsā€!!!!!

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SA's avatar

Inflation šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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Dr Linda's avatar

Time stood still

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Here's Telegram setup info, and some channels for covid info. Instructions:

1. Install Telegram for Desktop (windows/mac/linux) or for mobile, use the app store.

2. Use the wizard to get an account (will have to link to your phone #). Use any name you'd like.

3. Now you can add groups: You can search for the name of these groups, or use the link to find them. Then 'Join Channel'.

Settings recommendations:

1. Enable dark mode on main screen.

2. Notifications: Desktop notifications: off; Draw attn to window: off; Play sound: off

3. Privacy: Phone number: Nobody; Last seen: My contacts

4. Folders: create a folder called Covid, then you can select groups (channels) to add to it.

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Here's some good Covid channels. name / link / number of subs

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Coffee & Covid News https://t.me/coffeecovid 2K

Covid Science Library https://t.me/CovidScienceLibrary 6K

No College Mandates Discussion https://t.me/NoCollegeMandates 2K

PeterSweden https://t.me/petersweden7 26K

Jerm Warfare Battleground https://t.me/jermwarfare 37K

Dirt Road Discussions https://t.me/DirtRoadDiscussion 136K

Dirt road free discussion Chat https://t.me/dirtroadfree

HealthImpactNews https://t.me/healthimpact 5K

FLCCC Alliance https://t.me/FLCCC_Alliance 50K

COVID VACCINE INJURIES .COM https://t.me/covidvaccineinjuriesdotcom 1K

Living Healthy & Free Podcast with Katrina https://t.me/ayurvedaglow 2K

Died Suddenly/Unwanted Effect https://t.me/died_suddenly 30K

World Council for Health https://t.me/wch_org 45K

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I also have folders for

Ukraine: Military Summary, Levan Gudadze-Opinion, New World Econ Ukraine War Intel, Weeb Union, Brian Berletic's Newatlas Channel, Defense Politics Asia

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Politics: Police frequency, Russell Texas Bentley Chat, Tommy Robinson News, Eurasia & Multipolarity, Slay News, We Are Change, Ivory Hecker, Fearless Report, Dan Bongino, Salty Cracker News, The_Donald, Rachel Blevins, US Truth Social Chat, An0maly, KanekoaTheGreat, EPOCH TV, War & Truth

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Conspiracy: HealthImpactNews, The Golden One, LauraAboli, Counter-Currents, Jordan Sather, Ron Watkins, Owen Shroyer, Induced Mass Pschosis, WikileaksFiles

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Freebird's avatar

Thank you BFM! You’re an amazing source of knowledge on technology and social media. I have a love/hate relationship with it. I love to be informed, but hate being consumed by it. My most trusted source of information is C&C, and I like the idea of having a backup in case Substack is taken out; but the idea of one more social media platform kind of makes me want to run out to the garden and dig in the dirt….that saves my sanity. šŸ˜‚ But I do appreciate the info…I’ll do it later. 😊

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Fla Mom's avatar

I love the flood of information, but I feel like I already spend too much time trying to read a lot of it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I confess to spending 3-4 hours per day. But, I can afford it!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Very thoughtful. I have had it on desktop for a few years, but don't use it as haven't had contacts more than 2.

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Janet's avatar

Thanks. I tried to download telegram but got kind of lost.

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Runemasque's avatar

Some Telegram channels that I enjoy, though I am way oversubscribed: Robin Monotti, Vigilant Fox, Solari Report, SciFi World, Ice Age Farmer, Derrick Broze's daily News, El Investigador, No + Secretos, The White Rose, Dr Tenpenny, realchrissky, David Icke, CDs Andreas kalcker, the highwire, Jikkyleaks archive, danikko, the Epoch Times, cristina Martƭn JimƩnez, the light paper, la quinta columna TV, E, Geopolitics & Empire, Reiner Fuellmich, Arkmedic's Feed, live free w/John Bush, the Healthy American, doctors for Covid ethics Channel, Astrid stuckelberger, corona investigative committee, Gallia daily voice of France, James O'Keefe, Canadian Covid Care alliance,....

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you Runemask. I added T several years ago as a more secure than WhatsApp messaging option. Hadn't looked into the other uses.

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Runemasque's avatar

I don't even know if people can directly message each other here on substack. Sometimes I wish to ask someone about something they said, but it seems like we're in a sort of anonymous commons here.

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Runemasque's avatar

That is funny because I basically don't message anyone on it. I just follow channels, but if I comment, I just don't know how to find replies or find out if someone messages me directly after reading a comment. I don't know how to do that.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

You’re a wealth of information! Thank you!

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MayBella82's avatar

Nice list. I also like Army of Frogs (Navy Seals). Good info

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CraigN's avatar

BFM would you put those Telegram instructions in a note on your profile so people could refer back to them please? Can't cut/paste from the Substack app in the comments section and notes might be useful here. Haven't played with notes here yet. Might be a POC on you instructions.

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Runemasque's avatar

Is there an easy way to find messages people sent you on Telegram? To me they are just bunched in with my long list of chats and channels. I subscribed to so many that it is not reasonable to try to find messages in this random and shifting list.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah I don’t find it user friendly at all šŸ˜•

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Runemasque's avatar

Well buggerall! I'm waiting for the based Florida guy to help me out.

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Runemasque's avatar

I bet you have a list for substack too,and maybe more

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Dick's avatar

Some are listed on his substack main page; just click on to check out.

Never forget what happened between that dark, Good Friday and through Saturday when the gates of Hell seemed to slam shut around us, and then what the bright morning light brought. All in the space of three days. Everything changed. Everything.

Cheers & Blessings all!

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CaplT's avatar

Thank you

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Sunnydaze's avatar

How do you create a folder? Can’t seem to find that feature

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Under Settings > Folders, at the bottom is Create New Folder. Give it a name, and then you can add chats (which are 'groups').

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks!

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Christy's avatar

Good morning! Happy Tuesday! Anyone hearing rumors about the mRNA in food for the past few years? I haven’t seen any evidence but lots of rumors. TYIA!!!!

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Lorie's avatar

Remedy: buy from a local farmer and ask how the animals are raised.

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Yahoo's avatar

I love to support local and certainly do with my eggs. But omg! At least here, prices for local meat and milk ($9 or more a gallon) are crazy and unaffordable for several. But yes that is truly an option and a friend and I are talking about splitting the cost which would be helpful.

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Lorie's avatar

That is the real cost of raising livestock and vegetables. Large farms have been so heavily subsidized (at least in Canada, I assume also in the US), that the true cost is not reflected in the store price. Example: in Alberta, 1 doz organic, free-range eggs go for CAN$7.50 at the farm gate (but they don’t have any trouble going to Starbucks several times a day to buy $6 coffees). However, factoring in the price of organic grain, the farmer is only making about $2.00 per dozen. And then comes the labour: feeding and watering daily, cleaning the coop, driving to get the feed, collecting the eggs and putting them in the cartons, marketing, caring for sick or injured birds, etc. So, really, we should be charging $10/dozen just to make minimum wage.

I’ve always believed it is better to put my $ into the best quality food I can afford rather than buying supplements. Health is priceless and when you lose it, you can’t work anymore.

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rolandttg's avatar

Europeans spend twice per capita what we do on food, because they realize you are what you eat. When I look at the crap people have filled their shopping carts with, I cringe. Not hard to see why they all look like some version of a deflated blimp and have grey or yellow skin

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Christy's avatar

Or are sick ALL the time and can’t figure out why.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Can confirm. I tracked my expenses for producing eggs several years ago, and it was $6/dozen even then, not even using non-GMO/organic feed. Big producers use whatever gives them the qualities they need at the end, which is timed to be the earliest it can be, to reduce costs, so they also select for abnormally rapid growth. Our family toured an M&M/Mars candy factory once (a relative was a mechanic there), and all of the candy items that fell off the conveyor belts were placed in huge barrels and sold as cattle feed. Agricultural by-products are also used an animal feed, in dairies as well, such as cottonseed meal and other substances that ruminants would not normally graze. The resulting fatty-acid profile can be bad for human (and animal?) health. The fat-marbling that is considered so desirable in beef - it suddenly occurred to me that, if I saw that on a post-mortem examination of a human, I would conclude that the person was terribly ill.

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This is why I buy all my meat from a local rancher—chicken, beef, bacon, bison. All are pasture-raised, grass-fed. (Obviously, chicken and pigs eat whatever in the pasture like they should.) No vaccines of any kind, no antibiotics either. Yes, it’s very expensive, but cheaper than eating out. I also buy my eggs from the local market. They are truly free range. No vaccines or crap like that.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ok. so this was a bit gross to read šŸ˜‚

In pondering all the food issues we are having and the awakening of how bad the food we eat really is….I’m left wondering what the solution is. Don’t get me wrong I am in no way advocating for depopulation. My question is…how to we feed healthy food to millions of people nation wide? How do you preserve food so you can ship it across the nation without it going bad before it gets there? So people don’t need fresh food every single day because reality check…I don’t see that as a possibility. How do we produce food without all the chemicals and pesticides to keep bugs and critters from eating it before it is harvested? Not everyone can grow their own because of location, apt living, no backyards, etc etc.

I hear all of us complaining how rotten and corrupt it all is-myself included, but I wonder what the solution is for millions of people. How do we produce it safely and cost effectively? Food for thought. šŸ˜‰

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Credenda's avatar

I think the key is decentralization and a willingness to live a much simpler lifestyle. It would require much less regulation and governmental overreach but it could be done. But are we willing?

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daverkb's avatar

I think so too. How was it that in the Soviet Union the shortages were chronic but in the Russian Federation the Russian are a net exporter of commodities of all kinds including grains?

And we used to have no problem with supply in the US of A until the Commie Uniparty and their Deep State Friends seized the government apparatus?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Isn’t that the million dollar question? Are we willing? I think we already know that answer. It’s unfortunate that convenience and spoiling trumps common sense and sacrifice.

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Christy's avatar

You’re not gonna like my answer. Getting the jab was a choice but so is where you live. It’s a choice to move to the country and learn to raise your own food. We did it 10 years ago and when I say it was challenging that’s an understatement. But would I do it again? Hells yeahhhhh. And did my husband take an incredible pay cut to do it? Absolutely.

Another answer you won’t like is I don’t feel like it’s my job to feed millions of ppl. Why don’t they grown their own food and raise their own animals? Lawns should be growing food than using all those pesticides!

Anyway, just like our monetary system I don’t have a solution for the masses.

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Banjocat's avatar

What you’ve just described is Tolkien’s ā€œShireā€ where everyone works the land and lives a simple life in harmony with each other. I left CA in 2014 but did not have the foresight to purchase a rural property. Now I find myself back in CA taking care of my mother 24/7 to keep my siblings from putting her in a nursing home. I have to ride it out now and trust that this is all divine will and I am here for a purpose. I love that you were able to create such a fine experience! I still dream about it and hope one day I can get out of here and find my own garden in this life.

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M VARR's avatar

May God Bless you for sacrificing for your mom and someday show you the way to your garden.

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Banjocat's avatar

Thank you so much for the blessing! xox This experience is turning me inside out but it also has a positive effect in showing me who I really am and squashing much of the fear that once ruled my life <3 Much love and abundance to you M Varr!

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Christy's avatar

You can start with just growing herbs. And you are blessed being able to take care of your mom like that!!! I pray one of my 4 will do the samešŸ’œšŸ’œšŸ’œ

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Banjocat's avatar

I am going to "grow where I'm planted". Got the garden started and I had chickens where I lived before now in the care of others. Going to try again here with a smaller flock. You'll know which child will be the one. I can see now how I was always meant to hold my mom's hand as she crossed the threshold. xox Oh, and my younger sister is named Christy ;).

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Christy's avatar

It really doesn’t take much so that’s awesome!!!! I swear there is something in dirt to make your soul sing. Lol. And last august my bother, sister and mom were all talking and laughing around my dad as he passed. It was not of this earth. I wouldn’t trade it for anything!!!! I hope you like your younger sister. Lol

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Sunnydaze's avatar

There is nothing necessarily wrong with your answer. Unfortunately, it isn’t in the cards for everyone for many various reasons. The thread wouldn’t be long enough to list them all šŸ˜‚.

I applaud your family for doing it as I know it couldn’t have been easy. I would love to be able to do what you describe, as would a lot of people. So the trick is to find places locally to support by purchasing from them. I do think we as people need to sacrifice the junk food, the $7 coffees, eating out for convenience among many other things to afford to eat a healthier life style. Some of us need to learn to cook! We can afford safer and more quality foods if we forgo the unhealthy luxuries we’ve become accustomed to.

But you are correct. It is about sacrifices. Monetarily, possessions, keeping up with the Joneses, etc. Simplicity. Scaling down. Necessities rather than wants.

I also don’t think it’s my job to feed the world or nation of millions. However, if we really do what you suggest and only take care of our own and skip over everyone else what kind of people would we be? There is a piece that includes a community of people. There are elderly, disabled, abandoned, and the list goes on.

So it’s rather simplistic to say everyone go buy a farm and feed yourself and let everyone else figure out their own stuff.

But, I think you raise some good points.

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Christy's avatar

And I completely agree. In our community elderly are well taken care of. I don’t know about most communities but ours is blessed!

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Agreed! Feeding others is a blessing that returns blessings tenfold and more.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It used to be that even people in cities had small gardens and chickens. Now regulations limit or prevent that. I’ve heard of movements that are trying to revive those traditions in modern cities.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Yes, good comments. The most paranoid among us jump to conclusions like "we are being poisoned by agri-buisness." This may in some cases even be true, but deliberate? In my opinion, most unlikely. Consider an obvious case, and one I have some familiarity with. Hydrogenation (hardening) of fats/oils was discovered ~ a century ago. This became popular for processing foods for at least two very practical reasons: Nearly all human-edible "fats" (includes oils) are liquid at room temperature. Sometimes solid is more desirable. Making trans fats tends to give longer shelf life. So win-win right? Well yes, until it was discovered that trans fats are very unhealthy. Their use has been greatly limited, even banned some places. But they still exist and one does well to avoid them. But, I'm pretty sure, the food companies are not trying to kill us off.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You're right, it's just about the money. The "healthy-ness" of their products is not one of their criteria.

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Leo's avatar

Coconut Oil = solid at room temp.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And lard. And tallow. It's the unhealthy, processed seed oils that are liquid at room temperature.

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Dick's avatar

Research the publicity blitz by soy & canola (rapeseed) cos. against tropical oils (coconut & palm) & the demonization of animal fats (tallow, lard, etc) & the corruption of the heart association & MDs. (These fats are back, thankfully, in organic form & grass/fed in the case of animal fats—all very healthy).

The heart experts’ ubiquitous ā€œrecommendedā€ over processed, hydrogenated & seed oils proved to be associated with all kinds of chronic diseases — heart disease soared instead of dropping. This came, of course alongside the grain pyramid, which added to the insult. Our MDs are taught practically zip about nutrition.

Most MDs (imo) are highly educated malpractitioners, minds and hearts filled with AMA and pharm industry rot.

Deliberate?? More or less. Ignorant arrogant and willingly, corrupt, certainly.

As we’re painfully learning, we should have been vigilant a long time ago. As always: Follow the money

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Fla Mom's avatar

Joel Salatin, a farmer who has become famous for his farming methods and for speaking out on issues related to food and farming, has said that we have basically regulated and zoned ourselves into limited food production. He thinks yards could be turned to food production, even roadside grassy verges. People should be able to keep a couple of hens. Heck, during WWII the gov't was *telling* people to grow gardens and keep chickens, and a large proportion of food *was* produced at home, while large numbers of young, healthy men were gone for years, so those left at home, women, children, and the aged, had to produce war materiel, domestic materiel, and food, too, and they did it. If more food were grown locally, shipping would be less of an issue. People where I live are learning how to can food, and a woman in a nearby community is offering to freeze-dry food in her big machine in exchange for half of the product. Salatin points out that we lack imagination about how to do things differently. I'd add that solutions don't have to be perfect or 100%. If more people did what he recommends, then there'd be less need for industrial agriculture, just like during WWII. And if food were produced for nutrition instead of cost alone, then people could 'sacrifice' and have a cheaper cell phone or car, or eat out a bit less instead. Here's a talk he gave recently: Local Food as Parallel Agriculture

https://freedomlibrary.hillsdale.edu/programs/cca-ii-parallel-economies/local-food-as-parallel-agriculture

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He’s right! The resources are there. The government we’ve created over the decades has taken away our ability to survive and thrive on our own. They forced our dependency through regulations, permits, zoning, and as humans we devoured it instead of fighting for freedom from it. Now we are spoiled with conveniences, lazy and want everything handed to us, and begging for food and necessities because we lack the knowledge and experience to take care of ourselves. We do have to get creative and think outside the box. Thanks for the link!!

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Fla Mom's avatar

And I just came across this today; rabbits are a great choice for growing healthy meat quickly in any setting:

https://livestockconservancy.org/2023/04/10/raising-rabbits-for-meat/

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Dick's avatar

So glad you mentioned this! I was going to myself. This whole topic — how to convert our nation and save our food is one of the most important topics. I hope people are reading this sub-thread! Permafarming & regenerative ag.

Thanks for the link!

Here’s one for you:

(Great publication!) https://www.stockmangrassfarmer.com/articles/

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Peace's avatar

We have a local woman who has set up a "farming" community of people's yards. She travels the area farming the yards, then collects the output to sell to the locals!

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Fla Mom's avatar

Very creative! And think of all those rooftops in big cities, going to waste. Could grow a lot of food up there.

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Leo's avatar

Freeze. Can. Dehydrate.

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CaplT's avatar

One of the chicken feeds changed its formula and has been found to cause hens from laying. Hope yours eat as much good scrap as possible!

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Fla Mom's avatar

That happened to a friend here locally. She changed feeds and the hens were back to normal. She compared feed tags on the bad feed and the same brand feed she'd bought before the change - same ingredients, different order, so less nutritionally dense. She said they ate more of it, but laid far less.

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The Central Bankers, with their fictive virtual non-money have created a virtual conjured world in which there is no longer any true price discovery based on real costs of production. Because of this, we don't know the real price of anything ... including eggs, meats, and so on. Instead, everything is a derivative of the Fed's 'debt' creation. Even the stock markets are now derivative of the debt markets which now can only remain liquid with new infusions of 'money printing'.

What's going on with de-dollarization with the talk currently being the introduction of a commodity or commodities linked unit(s) may be a game changer. Economies based of the production of real things is what we used to have prior to the introduction of Fantasy Money by the Central Banks. And if you want to know why the West is gone totally insane bonkers, the root of it is in the Fantasy Money and it infinite to the moon plasticity. Things not linked to the discipline imposed by natural reality create a world of tortured mental illness of unfathomable scale. Behold! As the madness now daily unfolds.

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Deb's avatar

Just fyi to bring into perspective …the price of a bale of hay 2008 went from 8.00 to 16.00. The price of hay this past year went from 16.00 to 24.00;a bale in the southwest

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Fla Mom's avatar

Large round bales went from $35 to $75 per bale since 2017 in North Central Florida, with most of that being in the last 3 years.

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Credenda's avatar

I really believe all this is about depopulation.

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Christy's avatar

It had to be.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And destruction of people who are self-reliant. Read or re-read Brave New World and also Brave New World revisited. I think he nailed it.

Here's 'Revisited.' Both can be read for free online.

https://www.huxley.net/bnw-revisited/

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Christy's avatar

I’m with you up here in north central florida. It’s ridiculous!!!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I am paying 10.25 for each gallon of raw whole Jersey milk--from a regen ag farmer who has a delivery schedule--I pick it up weekly--and I am one who had always just looked for the lowest price in just about everything

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Think of the money you save on medical bills by eating real food.

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Rosemary B's avatar

just think that the money you saved in the past by being frugal, is now

being put to good use. Well done

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Dick's avatar

I do too! Tightwad, er, thrifty šŸ˜‚, as well. The milk is the absolute best!! I’m so very grateful for these incredibly hard-working permaculturing, land-regenerating pasture-raising raw milk providers! Happy cows & happy, healthy people!

(I pay about the same, & it’s a delight to drive out through the countryside to the farm for my weekly pick-up.)

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks Dick--and now I have read all your successive posts with appreciation.

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Dick's avatar

On a sub-thread here, a reader posted her story relating a danger posed to those with certain estrogenic-sensitive cancers — and yes, she was talking about having to give up RAW, GF milk and cheese. I researched this and inquired further of her and she had the kindness to respond. (You can find the convo just below, with links)

Well, it appears, to my surprise, that for some, this wonderful food can indeed be a danger. I think it’s necessary to add this caveat as a word of caution & to add to our body of knowledge.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I did read that post --and indeed, always good to add to knowledge (the more we know, the more we know how little.....)

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SB's avatar

Or, you could give up dairy. I'm reading a book where a woman got curious about people who underwent "spontaneous" cancer remission. Apparently, the majority drastically changed their diet including the elimination of milk products. I hate the thought of giving up cheese tho.

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SA's avatar

This only applies to pasteurized dairy. Raw dairy provides your gut with essential nutrients that helps in the digestion of other foods and supports your immune system.

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Leo's avatar

ALL dairy = high in estrogen which feeds estrogen-sensitive cancers.

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SA's avatar

This isn’t proven. It’s like the old belief that if you eat a high fat diet, you’ll gain weight. Then keto diets disproved this. I know a lot of raw milk drinkers who are far healthier than most people. Also, blood tests that show very high functioning immune system and no estrogen issues. But to each their own.

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Leo's avatar

SA - Not "proven"? LOL - well, it happened to me, even tho my diet checked all the boxes.

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Dick's avatar

I’m sorry, Leonora. I hope you’re licking the cancer. As a raw, grass-fed proponent, you got me to research this. I found this: https://foodforbreastcancer.com/foods/milk

It does include grass-fed milk and mentions various studies (including grass-fed) concluding that high-fat milk likely does, indeed, raise the chances of breast cancer due to the hormone levels. Though one study said it’s inconclusive, questioning the methodologies. I’d have to say that this particular article was only dealing with pasteurized organic GF milk and in the text repeatedly conflated or equivocated the sort of milk they were talking about.

This thoroughly discusses all the hormones in raw GF milk: http://raw-milk-facts.com/hormones.html

Here’s a paragraph on estrogen:ā€ The Estrogens: An important and often controversial class of steroid sex hormones including estradiol and estrone, usually associated with females, but present, and with important functions in males as well. Aside from their obvious influence on breast and uterine development, the estrogens (which are actually derived from the male sex hormones or 'androgens' testosterone and androstendione) bolster bone maturation, strength and density, regulate formation of sperm cells and play crucial roles in fat (lipid), circulatory, respiratory and nervous system metabolism. The trace amounts present in bovine milk are considered too low to exhibit any physiological activity. Progesterone, also present in raw milk, has an inhibitory effect on the estrogens. Estradiol: 160 pg/ml, Estrone: 34-55 pg/mlā€

Note especially the last two sentences.

There may be other factors at play here, and I do not want to diminish your ordeal and courageous battle in any way; But I really want to get at the facts. It might help you as well.

So, question — and please forgive me if you find this intrusive or offensive and do not feel obligated to respond: You said you’d checked all the boxes and I’d like to know what that means. It would help me and others sort this out, as perhaps others can be helped by knowing.

Thank you & may God Bless and heal you.

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Leo's avatar

Dick, Thank you, I very much appreciate your researching details and specifics! What you found agrees with what I found, too. When reports state that their findings are "inconclusive," and they make generalized judgement calls that amounts are "considered too low to exhibit any physiological activity," and are inexact re: which kind of milk they are dealing with, then I get spooked. The tumor I had was sensitive to both estrogen and progesterone. Docs said, "No hormones for you!" And of course my own body is still producing some all by itself. So, I'm loath to add even trace amounts. Giving up organic raw cheese was the hardest!

By "checked all the boxes" I was referring to the food choices mentioned in the other's comment - grass pastured beef, etc., - and I would add: "organic every thing else".

Two and one half years have passed since the lumpectomy, and so far so good. I had, and continue to have, great care. My gratitude is boundless.

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Dick's avatar

Leonora—For some reason, I can’t find the reply I wrote. Here’s a repeat, just in case it’s flosting around somewhere in the thread:

Thank you for your kind response & taking the time to write. I get it now.

This is important to know and I’ll be taking note.

Please take care. I’m praying for you this morning. May the God of Heaven and Grace continue to guide and heal you with all Blessings!

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SA's avatar

I’m sorry it happened to you.

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Dick's avatar

There is a vast difference between pasture-raised raw dairy and the stuff called milk. Whenever you read articles like this, whether it’s dairy, meat or some vitamin or supplement that the info or study is discrediting, one must ask some questions.

-Is it the FORM of the substance that’s at fault?

-Were there other factors involved — in your example, was there anything else the person changed or, was milk eliminated solely?

-Does the explanation comport with other instances where remission occurred, again using your example, without stopping milk drinking?

We are so abandoned by good medical practice and care and so gaslit that we are on our own — just trying to figure out what to do! We are medical beggars and street waifs picking through so much litter and dumpster-diving to find what might be true and helpful to our needy bodies and souls! We are the homeless escapees from the sane asylums where they put us long ago.

I recommend you find out about raw grass-fed milk & cheese & I think you’ll find that those dairy-pasturing peoples are among the most hale and cancer-free on the planet! (This goes for the medical myths about meat & eggs, too. It’s all about what the animal eats.) It’s a fascinating and encouraging topic!

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Runemasque's avatar

I think this is the uncomfortable (for many) shift that needs to be made. Farmers get screwed to provide cheap and nutrition poor food on the store shelves. Most farmers are heavily governed subsidized. Many feel helpless to stop the cycle of farming drug/factory addiction. Many hold day jobs for the privilege of farming. And there is less and less farming, and more conglomeration of land. Sustainable farming groups and regenerative farming groups are trying to support the transition to farming that is good for the land and creates nutritious food. Direct and local economies are, I think, a necessary piece in moving away from factory mass produced living. In MN the pandemic lockdowns and supply problems brought about grassroots organization of Farm Direct MN to connect farmers and consumers. We need to build these structures. If you are in an urban area, you can start to look for those connections.

Also, FYI, many beef farmers have told me the marbling is due to corn finishing. They increase the percentage of corn in the diet until it is pretty much corn. One farmer compared corn to donuts. Same for other meats. Even look at your pet foods- corn is right there. Who lives off of corn? In MN the crops mostly rotate between corn and soy, and it is all gmo, chemical fertilized, and pesticided. Toxins lodge in the meat, so it is a convenient way to pass that stuff up the food chain. And then there is all of the stuff to enable life into factory machinery. Did you know many farms never let the dairy cows out of their stands in the barn? Their hooves would literally rot off if they didn't bathe them with some stuff that you can guess what's in it, and medicate them to make up for the illnesses endemic to that kind of living, which is a short span of productive years anyways. I know this because I have seen it right in my neighborhood.

Farmers are really nice people. It's just that this is normal and this is the system that they know. If they stray from the formula, they are gambling their farm, their equipment they are paying off...

There is talk about the hormone disrupting effects of these chemicals that cover and infuse our food. That ubiquitous corn goes into your meat, dairy, your snacks, your cereal. What do you think that is doing to our kids?

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Leo's avatar

Exactly.

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Christy's avatar

Lol. We raise pigs and chickens but we also travel. Very unfortunate!!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Same here--gone one week in every month for 2/3 of year--would like to raise chickens but the absence issue.....if I can get husband (builder of associated carpentry) on board would ask neighbors if willing to be part of project

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Christy's avatar

They sell blocks of feed and if ur hubby is handy you can turn a 55 gallon drum into a waterer. Will def last a week😊

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Thanks--he is much more than 'handy'---problem is his Forester w roof rack died, he has been unwilling to replace, and my little car cannot hold any 55 gal drums---have been looking into that piece for over a year. We do have a springhouse with water in it much of year--I have a submersible pump, can pump out water, but cannot pump it into anything without a barrel---which requires the vehicle to transport it (can get such barrels cheap 500 miles north (location for being away each month) , but hideously $$$ where I 'live' so renting a $19/hour truck from Lowes isn't realistic

Re-reading your post I realize what you are actually telling me--thank you very much! I may come back to you for more info (I hope I will have reason to!)

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Christy's avatar

U can buy 5 gallon too even from Amazon. And we’ve been homesteading for 15 years so plz ask away🄰

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Yahoo's avatar

Yes. The Epoch Times has an article on it. Dr. Mercola does as well. And Atty. Tom Renz has posted on Twitter about it. Very frightening and I don’t know what we can do. We can’t all have cows and pigs of our own. And I read they are going to do it to chickens as well as the hoofed animals already receiving mRNA jabs.

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Janet's avatar

We have to know if cooking destroys or degrades it. And freezing ASAP.

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dagny awoke's avatar

I’m suspicious. If you wanted to bring about a world where certain castes of people didn’t eat meat… how would you do it?

Seems to me you co-opt the issues of your opponent to encourage an outcome in-line with what you anyways wanted. If people fear mRNA in chicken and other meat then you can achieve a lot in terms of avoidance.

Yet if placing mRNA within food worked why not do it from the onset? Maybe it does work and they just intend to keep the food supply viable for those at the top of the human chain. Either way, I wouldn’t choose fearfulness. Live your life and eat your meat!

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You raise a good thought. What better way to psyop the anti-vaxxers than CLAIM to put the very ingredient hated into the food chain!! We are in an information war. Why would we not consider this possibility?None of us knows what’s true anymore and what’s fake. It’s chaos. It’s done on purpose. Throw the entire human race into chaos and the only one laughing is the devil himself for creating the chaos. We have to keep living. As best we can under extreme circumstances.

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Thank you for this reply, Sunnydaze, we’ve been on this thread for a long time and I enjoy seeing your username when it appears!

You’re right that mis and disinformation are sadly everywhere (intentionally so). But I do think there is a metric. My mother gets by with a daily dose of Confusion News Network and she recently sent me this believing it was a libertarian approach to currency: https://youtu.be/Ot5F3sx4Niw

Honestly the tone is maybe little man against the Man, but the lyrics are about the currency of love and what we do for each other as humans. The entire package is a psyop for social credit currency wrapped up in an alternative style rap song. I just asked myself, does what the singer advocates for bring about a social credit system? Yes. Does what he advocates for even make common sense, can we measure love, is it something consistent or tangible etc. No. Common sense is God’s gift to us because it cuts through all lies and Jeff is an expert at it :)

I hope we meet one day in person Sunny! I relocated from a dark blue state to FL a while back just to be around such common sense

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Aww thank you 😊

Welcome to Florida!

What part of Florida? North, Central or South?

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dagny awoke's avatar

thank you! šŸ™

South, you? I think I saw a thread a few months ago to meet up in central. If others are in the south I’d definitely meet for in person coffee.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I am in Central. Yes! We are putting together a group of C&C ers to meet up. We had one so far that was awesome! The next one will be more to the south. The lady in charge is trying to find a location that is central to each person so it’s an easier drive for everyone. Here’s the link! Just go there and leave your info and she can get you the information. Maybe it would work out for you to join us!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JEEopjGt5qzQad8zG2vZznj8XO95ZcCXC7P7-7BapsE/edit

It would be fun to meet you as well! Hope it works out šŸ˜‰

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I am envious. Have been thinking wistfully for weeks how nice it would be to meet, face to face, these people whose 'names' I recognize and thoughts I value.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Hoping this gets dialed in and maybe other areas and states can do this. That would be so nice. I agree. I’ve been searching for my people for a few years now. New to our area so it’s been difficult.

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Janet's avatar

I plan on it. Sometimes you just have to rely on God for protection or you never go out of the house. But some science should be answered in general as to just WHAT is in our food these days. To protect children for one thing. Evil dummies are running the show and forewarned is forearmed.

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Absolutely, with Glyphosate and GMOs in the mix don’t throw caution to the wind. There is another line of logic spreading not to consume chicken because of H5N1… that tens of thousands of birds in Japan and other places are being put down to stop the spread. Anyone else following that story? I know someone who refused the jab but now refuses chicken for this reason. I’ve had H1N1 and nearly died from it but I haven’t given up my meat. I was vegetarian for 10 years and didn’t know how unhealthy I was until I returned to a meat diet and my nails and hair and overall health recovered.

To your larger point I absolutely agree, place trust in God.

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Janet's avatar

I don’t trust the bird flu narrative either. There is a money issue between small producers and the big conglomerate egg producers. That this culling will wipe out competition. Handy—now the population is softened up to fear again. I’ve always eaten meat and plan to continue. I’m kind of keto-carnivore. Mostly animal products. Cheers!

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Cheers! šŸ» šŸ“ā˜€ļø

You are so right, the population is softened to fear again. You know that moment as you ascend on a rollercoaster, just before the cart crests… and even once the descent begins and all one can do is hold on but it makes no difference on the rate of fall… yeah we are somewhere at the top there or maybe even on our way down. We can be afraid or try to control as much as possible but prayer is likely our only genuine power. That and freedom of choice mixed in šŸ¤” which at this point might only be relegated to choosing our attitude but I prefer to think some other choice will avail itself. I never thought we would travel abroad again and yet that has shifted, maybe the currency and meat conundrums will offer an alternative choice for us too

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Janet's avatar

I think there is a great amount of failure heading toward tptb. In many ways herding humans can eventually be like herding cats. What these masters of the universe don’t take into account is the unimaginable amount of technology, whatever form of $ left , human capital and resources it will take to keep these nudniks in their current state of privilege. I’m watching my back, however. I’m planning a trip to Europe next year. That we have all here been given a personal warning about so much deceit means we may be winning before the rest wake up.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

If God be for us, who can be against us?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good point!

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LCC's avatar

Also wondering if gastric juices denature the mRNA / protein molecules so perhaps not as dangerous if consumed following cooking.

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Janet's avatar

Excellent point. I always like my meat well cooked also. Beef and poultry is next, I read.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I thought the same

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

This is my wondery also. Did a whopping lot of canning pork chops and chicken legs last summer/fall.

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J Kaz's avatar

I purchase products from melaleuca, all made in USA. Owner has been a rancher they are doing a meat subscription service, no mRNA in cattle. Good ranchers also said no mRNA. Now I have to find dairy without the mRNA I’m it. I believe through milk might be the biggest issue. Trying to research it

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SusanMc's avatar

If mRNA is put in the food supply for livestock then.....

Also in any fertilizers, etc. used for growing veggies....

These evil tools of satan stop at nothing

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You may find it worthwhile to watch some videos of Gabe Brown, great promoter of regen ag. I myself have been cultivating the same soil now 35 years; as of last year reached point of needing only blood meal (no other addition)--and in summer discovered how to use urine (see Rich Earth Institute, Brattleboro VT---esp their webinar UrineMyGarden). . Ergo, don't need to add anything but what husband and I produce daily from our bodies.

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Mollie's avatar

I’ve been looking at their meat service. Do you like it so far?

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J Kaz's avatar

It is shipping in may for the first time so i can keep you posted. It definitely was cheaper then some of the other services, the selections:packages are limited just because they do not know what will be in demand. I love their home and beauty products and totally addicted to their organic coffee, that I drink while reading c&cšŸ™ƒ

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Christy's avatar

I was hoping it was conspiracy. We raise pigs and chickens but we still eat out. Ugh. Thank you so very much for the info!!!!!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

This will deter us from eating out, unless restaurants post where food is purchased.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Thinking the same thing.

But our bought and paid for Congress dropped the ā€œCountry-of-originā€ labeling requirement for meat on behalf of their BigAg bosses, so chance of restaurants even *knowing* the mRNA content will be even lower.

It’s getting serious as a heart … wait, don’t wanna go there.

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STH's avatar

Wild fish like salmon should be mRNA free

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Best thing is growing your own food or having local contacts. Moving forward it will become essential to have your network of local growers/producers set up.

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Donna  P's avatar

I've heard that an aerosol mRNA is being released into the atmosphere, so it is on/in all the vegetation and seafood. I don't know how to confirm or disprove this. I just pray over the food and eat it.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

China owns Smithfield Foods located in Smithfield, Virginia.

Large pork producer and processing company.

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Copernicus's avatar

Look here https://www.nationalhogfarmer.com/news/pork-supply-chain-invests-65-million-novel-vaccine-platform and one of the guys quoted is on the board of this org whose mission is animal protein sans animals https://www.bettermeat.co/our-mission

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Fla Mom's avatar

Thanks, great info. But I can't see which one is quoted who is also on the Board. Likely I'm just missing it, as my mother had occasion to say only about a zillion times, "If that had been a snake, it would have bitten you!"

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Well, I had searched the names of each of the guys quoted. I think it’s the Kevin Ludwig/Ladwig guy who is on the board of Better Meat. Or at least was. I am not on the device that has the bookmarks saved to be able to check.

Ya just hafta wonder why a guy who is on the board of an anti-meat org is pushing for supposed health improvement of herds of meat. Seems he would be busily working to improve the taste of Veggie Burgers, or something like that.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Oooooh, great catch! Two of them: Shapiro is the CEO of Better Meat.

"Since it was founded in 2018, The Better Meat Co. has been using extrusion technology to turn pea and algae proteins, bamboo and psyllium into ingredients to enhance both meat and plant-based products.

"But that’s not all it’s been doing. Today, Better Meat is unveiling its 13,000-square-foot mycoprotein fermentation plant, as well as a line of mycoprotein meat analog ingredients. The entire product line — and the huge factory, built in a former indoor moonbounce-type play park for children — has been developed under stealth since 2018. CEO Paul Shapiro said it is likely one of the world’s largest whole biomass fermentation facilities, outside of the ones used by Quorn, the U.K.-based fermented meat analog powerhouse. ...

"Kevin Ladwig, president of Johnsonville Holdings-affiliated venture fund MSAB Capital, said in a release that the sausage company is excited about the possibilities of Rhiza."

https://www.fooddive.com/news/the-better-meat-co-unveils-mycoprotein-fermentation-line/601332/

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Copernicus's avatar

😔

I have learned these last three years to be curious about the associations and origins of people backing ideas. I never really pursued such things prior.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Just like looking at the bottom of a 'scientific' report to see who funded it?

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Copernicus's avatar

Exactly. But often must look to figure out who is behind the whoever funded. It’s not so straightforward.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

like Bill Gates' ever-so-many shell companies?

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CaplT's avatar

Eating molddddd???

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Leo's avatar

Well yes = cheese.

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Christy's avatar

Thank you!

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A Simple Departure's avatar

https://open.substack.com/pub/petermcculloughmd/p/chinese-load-cows-milk-with-mrna?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android

Here is one of the studies showing "success".

Yes, I would definitely try to find a local food community and do meat, milk, eggs, and produce shares. It's so worth it. The food is fresher, better, and you are keeping the money in your local community. Local people who know you are more likely to be willing to barter also. It's usually less expensive to buy in bulk, so learning preservation skills is helpful too. I just make it part of the homeschool curriculum.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Yes, it’s true. Attorney Tom Renz, Dr. Robert Malone and Dr.Mercola have written articles about it. Dr. Mercola wrote ā€œHow Long Have you been consuming Therapied Porkā€ on April 10, 2023 and Dr. Malone wrote a substack article ā€œThe Harvest of deceptionā€ on April 3. I’m sure you can find the Tom Renz article on his substack. Also Dan Ball from OAN talked about the MRNA vaccines in livestock last night. Look up goodranchers.com

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Check out Children's Health Defense also. Don't have time to search extensively, but a search of "food" turned up lots of interesting things. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/?s=food

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kr's avatar

Oh me oh my... they are doing everything they can... isn’t the Covid shot in with the flu shot now? And in our childhood vaccine schedule? This must be Stopped!!!!!

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Me's avatar

Needs a campaign: mRNA is for pigs, y'all.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I mean, if ivermectin is ā€œhorse pasteā€ why not?? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ˜›

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šŸ‘

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

How long can a DRUG remain on emergency-use status? No emergency, no emergency drug. I see though that Pfizer is advertising Comirnity, which is also not approved in the US.

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STH's avatar

I’ve read that too. I plan to start getting my meat from a local farmer. And eating out might be a challenge? I don’t see it easily getting into wild AK salmon, farmed yes, or halibut so that’s an option.

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Christy's avatar

I was thinking seafood too. Lol

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Daynagator's avatar

Sounds like much more than any rumor given Mercola's recent article with Merck's video embedded. I was hoping C&C would highlight this abomination in pork...for now, but slated for beef, etc. Tom Renz explains the importance of supporting HB 1169 in Missouri to at least label these frankenfoods. Please voice support! Even organic meats may be mRNA vaxxed according to Mercola's article.

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Politico Phil's avatar

BREAKING NEWS: The Lobbyists for the Cattleman and Pork Associations in Several States Have CONFIRMED They WILL Be Using mRNA Vaccines in Pigs and Cows THIS MONTH.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/breaking-news-the-lobbyists-for-the

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

I was a video where I believe Merck had made swine flu vax for pork producers in 2018 and using mRNA delivery system

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Marty Mathis's avatar

I'm starting to get very concerned about stories like this.

https://slaynews.com/news/concerns-mount-mrna-vaccines-us-beef-supply/

I think they are doing everything in their power to completely eliminate the "control group" or "pure bloods". Any word if our Florida state legislature has anything active on this front?

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't know if anyone has asked for a bill to be introduced (too late this session, except in circumstances considered special enough by the Governor, Speaker, or Senate President), but since Florida is one of the nation's largest beef-producing states, I wonder what the stance of the Florida Cattlemen's Association is. (I'm not a member; too small and too non-commercial.)

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Crixcyon's avatar

After 38 months, the fake pandemic has ended? I went into the grocery store yesterday near Flint, Mi and half the people, employees included, still had masks on and a few had them around their neck ready to pull them up should a big bad covid virus particle enter the building. So, no, the fake emergency is alive and well as many people have been mind-wrenched into a permanent stupor where they no longer identify as humans. Their master, billy g, is as happy as all get out.

Government can ban crypto and the value/price of all assets will still fluctuate. They will not let things like bitcoins and others get in the way of their CBDCs as they steamroll the last vestige of our freedom into the dirt.

SF and the leftist/liberal cult? Who the frick cares?

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Annie's avatar

Scamdemic maybe over but the covidiots mental illness and delusions are not.

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Julie's avatar

A big leap forward here in the Silicone Valley. We are now 'allowed' to make our own choice to mask up in medical establishments and hospitals🤣🤣. That being said I am still noticing quite a few masks around. Observation: seems mostly divided by culture at this point.

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NAB's avatar

That IS a big leap. Here in UPSTATE, western NY, masks still required by the two main corporate health care systems. Un-frickin-believable (walked out on my mammogram last week because of the policy and because they had circles on the floor in which I was required to stand and plexiglass up). Asked the receptionist how I was to trust them for imaging interpretation when they still endorse such fraudulent practices. She was not amused. Oh, and a big ALLY sticker on the front letting all the "dudes who feel pretty" that they can get their mammogram done at the breast imaging center. Sigh.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for you!! Ugh so frustrating though!!

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Datagal's avatar

Are you fucking kidding me?! I love how you walked out. Good point not to trust doctors who believe in masks and spacing.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Masks here in Daytona area grocery are less than 10% now.

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Corkey's avatar

Perhaps they think it protects against lead poisoning too?

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JSR's avatar

I saw something about the lead cover you wear for X-rays, and the taking lead paint out of houses/buildings.... like saying that the lead was protecting from emf’s and such šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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Corkey's avatar

And Kryptonite

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Jeff, I'm with you on the CA bill. We know these people can't, or won't, control themselves, so it's a short jump to deciding that anyone who disagrees with the official narrative is mentally ill and must be forced to take whatever they want us to have. It's also a good excuse to take children away from parents (like in the old Soviet Union) so they can be more easily indoctrinated, mutilated, and "saved" from repressive Christianity.

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Runemasque's avatar

This is what I thought. In family court I once saw a father who didn't see his daughter for seven years after he was reported to CPS for a comment about tickling. Abuse was unfounded. I have heard of much worse. Psychiatric holds are just like those anonymous CPS allegations, building the case to take everything without due process. This is also how I have seen homeless and poor targeted in cities. A criminal track record is created through minor crimes, or even petty or outright bad tickets which are either unpaid or unaddressed by those who don't make it through the beaurocracy, ending up with a warrant, effectively creating a criminal.

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redpilled69's avatar

For those who haven't seen it...worth the time (Robert F Kennedy Jr). Opens with his law background and interests, then child vaccine schedule and how he got started in that, then covid lockdowns and the CIA bio-weapons program.

https://freedomlibrary.hillsdale.edu/programs/cca-iv-big-pharma/anthony-fauci-and-the-public-health-establishment

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Natalie's avatar

I was fortunate to hear him in person at Hillsdale, but I'm thankful for the link so I can send it to family and friends. On the same page, there are links to the other speakers at the Big Pharma conference. I heard John Abramson and Naomi Wolf, and both talks were great. I hadn't been familiar with Abramson's work, but what he revealed about the interaction between pharmaceutical companies, the university research sites, and the medical journals that report on the drug trials (not just COVID shots) was powerful. Naomi Wolf was a dynamic speaker, and if you haven't been keeping up on her work on the Pfizer documents (you can now get it in book form), you should definitely listen to her talk. It never ceases to amaze me how the pandemic has brought together people from such different backgrounds and political persuasions to work together for freedom and truth. Both RFK and Naomi Wolf said they feel at home at Hillsdale, which is, of course, a conservative institution.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And all the talks in all of the CCAs (Center for Constructive Alternatives) and other events are available online. They're great! On a topic related to some of today's comments, e.g., is this one, on the Cashless Society, part of the CCA on The Great Reset:

https://freedomlibrary.hillsdale.edu/programs/cca-ii-the-great-reset/cashless-society

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Natalie's avatar

For those interested in hearing Vivek Ramaswamy, he was the keynote speaker at that conference and was fantastic. There is a link to his speech.

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FriendIndeed's avatar

Definitely worth the time and easier than reading his book!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I haven’t had a chance to research this yet, but how does ending the state of emergency affect EUA liability for the injections, remdesivir, etc.? Can we crush them with an avalanche of lawsuits now?

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Yahoo's avatar

From the Epoch Times: Importantly, the ending of the public health emergency declared by HHS under the Public Health Service Act will not impact FDA’s ability to authorize devices (including tests), treatments or vaccines for emergency use,ā€ the FDA said in a Jan. 31 update after the Biden administration signaled the emergency would end in May. ā€œExisting emergency use authorizations (EUAs) for products will remain in effect and the agency may continue to issue new EUAs going forward when criteria for issuance are met.ā€ https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-reveals-impact-after-white-house-announces-end-to-covid-emergency_5023282.html?ea_src=ai&ea_med=search

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Copernicus's avatar

Yeah, sadly, I saw that too.

Sounds like F D A pretty much gets to do whatever they want.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Of course šŸ™„ So what does ending the state of emergency even mean? Are all mandates automatically canceled? (I know this is highly unlikely, too, but I can dream.)

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Fla Mom's avatar

I think it means that Trump's 'remain in Mexico' policy, or a similar name, allowed legally because of COVID, will no longer be in effect, so those claiming refugee status can enter at will and disappear. Recent reporting through Michael Yon, involving other reporters as well, has documented the incredible flow coming through Panama heading here. Obama wanted to "fundamentally transform" our nation, and he is - into a complete wreck, ripe for the pickings and no longer a world leader in anything but chaos, to be followed, if history holds, by tyranny.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Margaret Anna Alice

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Diana's avatar

I doubt it. Pretty sure immunity continues. .....

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Peace's avatar

Margaret Anna Alice - The vaccines are now 100% liability free, thanks to their addition to the childhood vaccine schedule. And thanks to the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Act. Once the C-19 shots were put on the childhood schedule, this opened up the possibility of removing the EUA so drug makers can't be sued for injuries or deaths from their product.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

You’re right, Peace, and I must have been suffering temporary amnesia in my delusionary hopes because I wrote Ron Johnson asking him to repeal that act under #MakePharmaLiable as inspired by the strategy outlined by Jeff:

• ā€œLetter to Senator Ron Johnsonā€ (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-senator-ron-johnson)

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Joe's avatar

I love your phrasing of the rationale behind Whole Foods shutting one of its big stores.....similar scene here in Detroit. The biggest, oldest, most prominent Starbucks that served the Wayne State University campus quietly shut its doors a few weeks back...permanently.....same deal....needles, harassment, theft, abusing employees etc...None of the folks on City Council even raised an eyebrow, but then again, they were so busy establishing and funding a reparations task force committee that they just didn't have time.

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Copernicus's avatar

I was poking around on the FEC website looking for repeated small donations in a zip code near me. Found a man who'd made frequent $1 donations to WINRED. Multiple days a week for many weeks. Sometimes several sub dollar donations on the same day.

Either he is suffering from dementia, or something fishy is going on not limited to ACTBlue.

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AJ#2's avatar

I would not be surprised, but the zip codes I was looking in there are just pages of D donations with no Red Win to be found.So it has to be on a much smaller scale by R and may depend on area. The patterns of the volume contributions seem to vary somewhat by locale. It is very intriguing to discover the methodology behind the large volume donations.

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Copernicus's avatar

Agreed.

And also want folks to be careful so as to not end up being the pot calling the kettle black. Even a small amount of fraud is still, well, fraud.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I've noticed over the last few years that Democrats criticize the ES&S voting machines and Republicans criticize Dominion voting machines. It made me wonder if there's a UniParty agreement to allow cheating by both sides, with contracts for the particular company making the difference.

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Copernicus's avatar

Interesting.

I should ask my state election integrity group that question.

In reality, neither machine is legit, as they all are MACHINES that are subject to internal manipulation, vote changing, and breakdown. It matters not that ES&S prints a ballot showing votes selected by the voter, since the actual counting is done based on scanning associated barcodes. Who can prove that (1) the barcode says what I want it to say and (2) that it gets read the way I intend it to be read.

Paper ballots and hand counts.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't think all machines are alike, though. Ours are like Scantrons, that simply count the filled dots on the paper ballots; there's no barcode.

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Copernicus's avatar

While you are correct that not all machines are alike, there still is some kind of programming inside the scantron that tells it how to convert dots to tallies. And *that* is where the potential for malicious behavior exists. Machines can be programmed to convert every fourth dot, for instance, into a vote for the opposite candidate....

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Copernicus's avatar

My local GOP is absolutely not interested in protecting election integrity. They claim otherwise, but actions speak louder than words. And don't get me started on our willfully impotent GOP supermajority state legislature.

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CaplT's avatar

There are mules on both sides (2000 Miles movie) so maybe cheating machines too.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

It is a Uniparty, what is good for the goose is good for the gander

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

"Currency backed by gold seems like a good idea just now."

Any digital "currency" is not a currency. It can still be controlled.

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Geoff Tarleton's avatar

I’d rather take the TexasCoin than the Fed/WEF version for now...and maybe it will be a nice bridge to a decentralized option that can’t be used to control us.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

What is it with all you "lesser of two evils" people?

I think I'd rather have the lion chew my leg off than the dragon? It will be easier.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

100%

greg abbott is a weffie. this is an attempt to silo the gold bugs into a cbdc

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I wish Abbott would control the invasion on his border. That he isn't is proof of his WEFness.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

That sounds good in theory, but unless I'm sorely msitaken, border control is [supposed to be] solely a Federal responsibility. E.g. Texas can't "deport" anyone from the state, even an illegal immigrant.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Not true - it’s actually the complete responsibility of the states - not the federal government.

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Politico Phil's avatar

True. Each state is a sovereign entity, including their borders. All authority and rights reside with the states and their citizens. The Fed Gov't is only a delegated authority whose power comes from the states with the consent of their citizens.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

You are "sorely msitaken"

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

And did he ever pardon that Army veteran convicted of self defense in Austin? For the past few days I keep reading headlines saying he’s ā€œworking as fast as he can.ā€

How long could it possibly take for a governor’s pardon?

Greg Abbott is worthless.

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Notyours's avatar

I'm not at all defending the scum, but I read that in TX the gov can't unilaterally pardon. The board of pardons has to recommend it to him or some such before he can do it.

He supposedly has requested that they do so.

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Karen's avatar

We had 2 good primary opponents. My choice, Don Huffines, did not do well, for some strange reason. He had a plan to relieve us of our onerous property taxes, would have controlled the border, and was 100% prolife. I am constantly seeing people complain about property taxes but few of those people voted for a solution. Mind boggling.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

And no one elected his wife to any office!!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yes, I would want to learn more about it before feeling it is any better than the Fed. planned (GLOBALLY planned, actually) CBDC...... not interested in anyone having control over what I choose to purchase, or telling me what I must do in order to maintain a Social Credit Score at a level that makes me an "acceptable" member of society (such as taking my 'meds', for example).

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Michael Miller's avatar

Anything can be controlled. Numerous European countries have imposed limits on the amount of a cash transaction I believe it was several thousand dollars bitcoin may be the least controllable. But they could prevent banks from receiving disbursements from exchanges. There seems to be no limit upon governments ability to stifle freedom.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

I'm not in Europe. They cannot monitor any cash exchange I make that I don't want them to monitor.

ALL digital "currency" can be traced and controlled.

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CaplT's avatar

Like digital voting. Cha-Ching išŸ’²the winner

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M VARR's avatar

If you don't possess it, you don't own it.

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BuelahMan's Revolt's avatar

"Digital" currency is not "currency". Gold backed or not. Its just a whisper in the goldbug's ear.

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Trish's avatar

https://open.substack.com/pub/dossier/p/biden-admin-tacitly-admits-that-mrna?r=pe44y&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The emergency might be over but the administration just gave close to $5 billion to pharma for operation "Next Gen" to create more vaccines.

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Shari Ray's avatar

😔😔😔

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CaplT's avatar

Gave more of our money to 2 companies that make $50,000 per second, every second.

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